Around The Way Curls

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Ep 351. The Man Who’s Shooting is Also Scared ft. Joél Leon May 16, 2024

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*Trigger Warning - this episode contains themes of sexual and physical violence.

This week Antoinette is joined by artist, writer, and pod fave Joél Leon. After some unfortunate news from back home, Antoinette looks to Joél to help make sense of some of it all and questions whether or not Questlove was right when he said women and children are often collateral damage when it comes to hip-hop. A listener voicemail leads them into an interesting political debate until finally they discuss his much-anticipated book Everything and Nothing at Once- A Black Man's Reimagined Soundtrack for the Future. Joél generously tackles everything from the body positivity movement not yet including men to his recovery & healing from childhood sexual abuse. Join us.

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Ep 350: Drake & Kendrick's Aftermath + DJ Vlad & Macklemore's Whiteness ft. Dustin Ross May 13, 2024

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This week Antoinette is joined by the amazing Dustin Ross @lookatdustin . They exchange pleasantries, discuss their thoughts on the recent rap beef between Drake and Kendrick, & deep dive into Dustin's recent TED Talk.

For Politics As Usual, the conversation then shifts to the ongoing genocide in Gaza, the potential arrest warrant for Netanyahu, Vivek Ramaswamy getting the sh*t played out of him by Ann Coulter, Kathy Hochul thinking kids from the Bronx don't know what computers are, a parasite eating RFK Jr.'s brain, the political landscape in Missouri, and the ongoing Trump trial in New York. WHEW!

We conclude with Pop Culture with a discussion around the controversy surrounding DJ Vlad's recent exchange with a Black woman on Twitter, the role of white folks in hip-hop culture, and Macklemore's new song addressing the Palestinian-Israeli conflict. The themes that emerge from the conversation include the weaponization of whiteness, the need for gatekeeping in the culture, and the importance of allyship. Join us

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Holding Court: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/holding-court-with-eboni-k-williams/id1534027647

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Ep 349: Can You Emasculate A Man? Ft. Work Bae Pod May 09, 2024

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This week we are joined by Naana and Obie of The Work Bae Pod again! Work Bae pod is where you can clock out with two coworkers turned work baes whose conversation goes beyond the water cooler. Join them as they navigate everything from pop culture to challenging each other to step outside their comfort zones.

The conversation explores the need for self-care and setting boundaries, as well as the challenges of balancing personal and professional responsibilities. We respond to a listener's voicemails, one of which brings us to our main topic.

We explore the idea of financial stability and its impact on dating and relationships. We share our personal experiences and perspectives on the matter & explore the dynamics of gender roles and financial expectations in relationships. We discuss our experiences with dating partners who make more or less money than us and the insecurities and tensions that can arise. We also critique the toxic nature of online discussions around gender and finances, highlighting the need for more constructive and nuanced conversations in building healthy relationships and communities. In this final part of the conversation, the hosts discuss the prevalence of certain gender dynamics and societal expectations. Join us

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Ep 348: Money, Morals & Culture ft. NWTRCC & Work Bae Pod May 06, 2024

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We have a jam-packed episode for you!

This week we are joined by Naana and Obie of The Work Bae Pod where you can clock out with two coworkers turned workbaes whose conversation goes beyond the water cooler. Join them as they navigate everything from pop culture to challenging each other to step outside their comfort zones.

For Politics as Usual, they discuss the ongoing conflict in Gaza and the resignation of Hala Halabi, a US diplomat who spoke out against the US policy towards Palestine. The conversation explores the role of strategic representation in politics and the challenges of authenticity. The discussion also touches on the importance of activism, the need for systemic change, and the power of collective action.

Antoinette then interviews Christy Kirchhoffer from the National War Tax Resistance Coordinating Committee. They discuss the concept of tax resistance and its various forms, as well as the motivations behind it. They also touch on the power of collective action and the importance of community support. The conversation highlights the need to reimagine our relationship with money and resources, and the potential for change through resistance.

For Pop Culture, Shanti takes a break from her break to talk Drake and Kendrick Lamar. They discuss the history of their beef, the diss tracks that have been released, and the deeper meaning behind Kendrick's lyrics. They explore the spiritual and symbolic elements in Kendrick's music and how he is exposing Drake's flaws and lack of authenticity. The conversation also touches on the impact of diss tracks and the importance of clever wordplay and delivery. They explore the potential directions Drake could take in his response and the impact it could have on his career. They also touch on the controversy surrounding the use of the N-word and the challenges faced by biracial individuals. The conversation ends with a discussion about surrendering to God and finding one's true self. Join us.

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Ep 347. Finding Relationship Ready Partner ft. Dating Coach Anwar May 02, 2024

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In this conversation, Dating Coach Anwar discusses the challenges faced by Black and Brown women in dating and relationships. He emphasizes the importance of vulnerability and setting boundaries then addresses the issue of self-sabotage. Anwar also explores the concept of masculine and feminine energy and how it impacts relationships. He provides insights into when someone is ready to date and offers advice for women navigating the dating world. The conversation explores the difference between walls and boundaries, the perception of men in relationships, the challenges faced by Black women in dating, and strategies for navigating courtship. The main themes include the importance of boundaries, the impact of societal expectations on men and women, the economic disparities affecting dating dynamics, and the need for self-actualization and self-centeredness in relationships. Join us.

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Ep 346. Media Controls the Mind Apr 29, 2024

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In this week's episode, Shanti announces a much-needed mental health break, while Antoinette shares her gratitude for her 2 Webby Wins for her other podcast "Can't Afford Therapy". Together we discuss the recent political events and mass graves uncovered in Gaza and highlight the funding bill signed by President Biden, which includes aid for Ukraine, Israel, and humanitarian aid for conflict zones worldwide. On a lighter note, for pop-culture, we discuss Beyoncé's long hair and the way she silenced all the skeptics. In the final part of the conversation, delve into a detailed analysis of an episode of Jerrod Carmichael's show, exploring themes of family dysfunction, infidelity, and the search for connection and healing. The conversation ends with a reflection on the complexity of the relationships and the potential for growth and understanding. Join us.

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Since 2018, they’ve reunified over 100 refugee families ripped apart by Trump’s “Zero Tolerance” policy. Once reunited, Al Otro Lado helps each family to find legal representation, housing, and the counseling that they need in order to heal and get on their feet.

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Ep 345. Therapy 101 ft. Jade Verette & Crissle West Apr 25, 2024

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This week Shanti is away so Crissle & Jade came to play. We talk cinnamon apples, sports, and playful banter including the times Antoinette “accidentally” play slapped Jade in the club and bit Crissle during the Superbowl. We then shift to listener voicemails where we revisit passion vs duty in the context of work and financial security. Finally, we dive into Therapy 101 where Crissle imparts some much-needed clinical psychology wisdom & gives Antoinette a good read. join us.

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Ep 344. Individualism vs Community ft. Jade of All Jades & Crissle West Apr 22, 2024

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This week Shanti is away so Crissle & Jade came to play! The hosts discuss various topics including their personal updates, the state of the world, therapy, and upcoming events. The conversation then transitions into Politics As Usual where we focus on the Middle East and the right to protest. Together we explore the complexities of the Israel-Palestine war/genocide, the role of the United States in the region, and the importance of protests and the potential consequences of speaking out against injustice. Join us.

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Ep 343. Should I Choose Passion or Duty? Apr 18, 2024

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In this week's episode, Shanti shares her growing obsession for Jerrod Carmichael and Willow Smith while Antoinette finishes her Walking Dead Era and seeks a new TV series to watch. For our main topic, we are inspired by a listener's call. We discuss the dilemma of choosing between passion and duty in one's life. Together we explore the logistical details of managing both and the sacrifices that come with it. We discuss the concept of safety and how it relates to financial security and personal fulfillment from each of our unique perspectives. Join us...

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Ep 342. Banning Biracials from Rap Beef Apr 15, 2024

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In this week's episode, Shanti shares her current condition of "badmouth" while Antoinette corrects her mistake from last week. Together we recap our trip to Canada and our ATWC meet up. For politics we discuss the recent ruling by the Arizona Supreme Court that upholds a near-total abortion ban in the state and the bird-flu epidemic amongst birds and now mammals. For pop-culture we discuss, the beef between Kendrick Lamar, J. Cole, and Drake, and the accomplishments of basketball coach Dawn Staley. The conversation then shifts to the legacy of O.J. Simpson, with a focus on his athletic achievements, domestic abuse history, and the infamous murder trial and how O.J should be remembered. Join us...

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