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    ANTIC The Atari 8-bit Podcast

    We cover Atari news, reviews, and a special feature each show for the Atari 8-bit line of computers (400/800/XL/XE/XEGS)

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    ANTIC Interview 285 - Jay Balakrishnan, HESWare Jun 13, 2017
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    Jay Balakrishnan, HESWare

    Welcome to an interview-only episode of ANTIC The Atari 8-bit Computer Podcast. My name is Randy Kindig. Jay Balakrishnan bought his first Commodore PET in 1978, which spurred him to found Human Engineered Software (HES or HESWare) in 1980. HESWare got its start on the Commodore PET but later moved into many other platforms. They developed or sold software for C64, Vic-20, Atari 8-bit, Apple II, Atari ST, Amiga, ZX Spectrum, Dragon, TI-99, DOS and others. Many Llamasoft games, through an alliance with Jeff Minter, were published in the US by HESWare. For the Atari 8-bit, they published games like Pastfinder, River Raid, Decathlon, Space Shuttle, Attack of the Mutant Camels, Gridrunner.

    By early 1984 InfoWorld estimated that HES was tied with Broderbund as the world's tenth-largest microcomputer-software company and largest entertainment-software company.

    In early 1984 they made their biggest splash when they acquired the services of Leonard Nimoy as spokesman.

    This interview took place on November 20, 2016.

    Links:

    • HESWare at Wikipedia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Engineered_Software
    • List of HES games at AtariMania - http://www.atarimania.com/pgelstsoft.awp?system=8&type=G&publisher=1702&step=25
    • Another list at AtariMania - http://www.atarimania.com/list_games_atari-400-800-xl-xe-hesware_publisher_18_8_G.html
    • Attack of the Mutant Camels at YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJVoDTz9LHM

    ANTIC Interview 284 - Art Walsh, Dynacomp and Artworx Jun 10, 2017
    Show notes

    Art Walsh, Dynacomp and Artworx Art Walsh was co-founder of Dynacomp, an early software publisher that created software for many platforms, including many educational and game titles for the Atari 8-bit computer. He later founder Artworx, a software publisher that produced titles including Bridge, Cranston Manor Adventure, Gwendolyn, Hazard Run, Hotel Alien, and Strip Poker. This interview took place on May 26, 2017. In it we discuss Jerry White, whom I previously interviewed. Teaser quote: "Why is bridge selling when most card players play poker? ... Doug McFarland ... blurted out ... 'I bet if we had strip poker instead of poker, it would sell. ... We all kind of said 'That's it!'" Artworx web site Atarimania's list of Dynccomp software Atarimania's list of Artworx games Wikipedia on the Xerox 914 copier Jerry White interview Picture of Art Walsh using his Atari 800 outdoors


    ANTIC Interview 283 - Kathleen Pitta, De Re Atari Jun 07, 2017
    Show notes

    Kathleen Pitta, De Re Atari Kathleen Marinell worked at Atari in 1981 or so -- she was Kathleen Pitta at that time. She is one of the contributors to De Re Atari, A Guide to Effective Programming, which was serialized by Byte Magazine in 1981 through 1982, and published by Atari Program Exchange in 1982. Kathleen is credited with Appendix E, which is about the GTIA chip. This interview took place on May 25, 2017. "I'm very logical, so the logic of computer languages -- I was fascinated by that. But the technology .. it changed to fast." Appendix E of De Re Atari Byte magazine version, published May 1982


    ANTIC Interview 282 - Matthew Householder, Atari and EPYX Jun 04, 2017
    Show notes

    Matthew Householder, Atari and EPYX Matthew Householder worked at Atari from 1983 through 1985. There he ported Moon Patrol to the ColecoVision for AtariSoft. Later he worked on the Atari 520ST, where he wrote the line-draw/polygon graphics primitives for the ST port of the GEM operating system. Next he worked at EPYX, from 1985 through 1988, where he produced/created/designed many games including: Winter Games, World Games, Championship Wrestling, California Games, and Sub Battle Simulator. This interview took place on April 25, 2017. "And she said, 'Hey! You guys should do a game with skateboarding in it.' And it was like a light, an epiphany. Oh yeah, skateboarding. Of course." Let's play ColecoVision Moon Patrol by Atarisoft


    ANTIC Interview 281 - Amy Chen: Touch Typing, Amoeba Debugger, De Re Atari May 31, 2017
    Show notes

    Amy Chen: Touch Typing, Amoeba Debugger, De Re Atari Amy Liu was an progammer at Atari. Her name was Amy Chen at the time. She wrote Touch Typing, which was released by Atari on cassette in 1980; an unreleased game called Aligator; and Amoeba, a debugger utility that was used internally at Atari to create assembly language games. This interview took place on May 2, 2017. It in, we talk about Paul Laughton and Lane Winner, and Chris Crawford, whom I previously interviewed. Teaser quote: "Well actually now I come to think of it, assembly language is easier than C++. ... C++ is a total different concept." Touch Typing at AtariMania De Re Atari Appendix C on The Atari Cassette Amoeba debugger discussion Paul Laughton interview Lane Winner interview Chris Crawford interview


    ANTIC Episode 43 - Corporate Wars May 28, 2017
    Show notes

    In this episode of ANTIC The Atari 8-bit Computer Podcast, Randy and Kevin spar over where the ANTIC corporate headquarters should be, Kevin steps out on the Atari 8 bit and makes us proud in the 10-liner BASIC contest, and Nir Dary brings us the scoop on Wopniak 2017. Plus all the Atari news we could find this month.

    READY!

    Recurring Links

    Floppy Days Podcast

    AtariArchives.org

    AtariMagazines.com

    Kevin's Book "Terrible Nerd"

    New Atari books scans at archive.org

    ANTIC feedback at AtariAge

    Atari interview discussion thread on AtariAge

    ANTIC Facebook Page

    AHCS

    Eaten By a Grue

    What we've been up to

    • TI Fest West, F-18A Video Upgrade (FPGA Based TMS9918A) http://codehackcreate.com/archives/30
    • E.R.I.C. cart - http://atariage.com/forums/topic/265316-eric-cart-electronic-retail-information-center/
    • CLASSware Eductional Cart - http://atariage.com/forums/topic/252162-need-some-info-on-odd-atari-8-bit-cart-classware-eductional-cart/page-2?hl=%2Bclassware#entry3758134
    • 2017 Atari 10-liner BASIC Contest entry video - https://youtu.be/0yw0S_MIyU0
    • VCFSE - http://vcfed.org/wp/festivals/otherevents/vintage-computer-festival-southeast/
    • Breakout: How Atari 8-Bit Computers Defined a Generation by Jamie Lendino - http://amzn.to/2pTOisT
    • Tricky Tutorial tapes 1-6 - http://www.ebay.com/itm/322521330659

    News

    • Stan Ockers died
      • 2016 ANTIC interview - ANTIC Interview 181 - Stan Ockers, public domain game programmer
      • Stan's articles in ANTIC Magazine - http://www.atarimagazines.com/index/index.php?author=Stan+Ockers&mag=antic
    • More ET cartridge dump news - http://www.bbc.com/news/av/entertainment-arts-27187582/ataris-et-video-games-dumped-in-desert-out-of-shame
    • WiFi232 – An Internet Hayes Modem for your Retro Computer , $48 assembled http://biosrhythm.com/?page_id=1453
    • Casino Games: From Atari computers to video poker expert - http://www.gamingtoday.com/casino_games/article/67651-From_Atari_computers_to_video_poker_expert h
    • Stack Exchange article on the Atari 800 - https://retrocomputing.stackexchange.com/questions/2811/why-did-the-atari-800-designers-choose-such-a-radical-system-design
    • Another Stack Exchange article on the Atari 8-bit - https://retrocomputing.stackexchange.com/questions/1683/why-did-the-atari-8-bit-computers-make-beeping-noises-while-accessing-the-disk-a
    • ABBUC contest for new Hardware development on the Atari 8-bit machines - http://www.vintageisthenewold.com/abbuc-contest-will-give-prizes-for-new-hardware-development-on-the-atari-8-bit-machines/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
    • ABBUC hardware contest home page - http://www.abbuc.de/atari/hardware-ressort
    • 'Blade Runner 2049' trailer features big Atari logo - http://us.blastingnews.com/showbiz-tv/2017/05/blade-runner-2049-trailer-features-big-atari-logo-001684967.html
    • Atari 1088XEL article in Hackaday - https://hackaday.com/tag/atari-8-bit/
    • Atari 1088XEL discussion on AtariAge - http://atariage.com/forums/topic/261147-1088xel-alternative-mother-board-project/
    • YouTube videos this month (not Nir Dary):
      • Rapidus 800XL part 2: socket replacement and RGB socket installation (FlashJazzCat) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6u6IOjzyjo
      • VCF SE 5.0 Special: Joe Decuir - The Formative Years of Amiga Computing & More (Remotely-Interested who is Adam Spring) - Viva Amiga Panel for VCFSE 5.0 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vy_8LV38nLY
      • Time Pilot for Atari 8-bit computers (Atariteca) - Gameplay of Time Pilot, port of the original game by Konami (1982), for Atari 8-bit computers. First place of Wapniak 2017 (Poland). - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpAbU8lhM-o
      • Atari games from -=WAPNIAK 2017=- (zzielins) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yh12N4BOg1E
      • ATARI 1700XLM Custom Built Computer Case (ScottyAnimation) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdoVBQeTogs - Modern computer in 80s style retro case
    • Nir Dary videos this month
      • Demo of Streaming video on a real ATARI 8BIT Computer - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJ9RllBv1pg
      • Stream Video on Atari 8bit computer original recorded video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g15X1ZIINcE
      • Demo of streaming video on an Atari 8bit computer through the Cartridge port - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkaqthtzEL0
      • Streaming Atari ad on a real Atari 8bit Computer - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCgcivZ6BII
      • Atari XL/XE Turbo Freezer 2016 Demonstration - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7NF0jkHwkM
      • Wapniak 2017 party - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9If_2dVBqmg
    • A good cover of a song from the Matrix soundtrack - https://soundcloud.com/makarybrauner/clubbed-to-death
    • Upcoming Shows where you might see Atari computers
      • OUTLINE Demo Party - May 25th to May 28th - in Holland - http://outlinedemoparty.nl/
      • Sommarhack 2017 - JULY 7-9 - Home, SOMMARHACK 2017 - http://dhs.nu/sommarhack/2017/
      • Kansasfest July 18-23 https://www.kansasfest.org
      • VCF West - August 5-6, 2017 - Computer History Museum, 1401 N. Shoreline Blvd., Mountain View, California - http://vcfed.org/wp/festivals/vintage-computer-festival-west-xi/
      • Ajka Hungary, Arok party - Aug 11-13, 2017 - https://www.facebook.com/ArokParty/
      • Fujiama 2017 Aug 17-20, 2017 - http://www.abbuc.de/news-feeds-component/events/icalrepeat.detail/2017/08/17/215/-/fujiama-2017
      • VCFMW - Sept. 9-10, Elk Grove Village, IL - http://vcfmw.org/
      • PRGE http://www.retrogamingexpo.com Oct 20-22
      • OldComp Party #3 - Sep 8-10, 2017 - (Czech Republic)
      • ByteFest 2017 Oct 13-15, 2017 - http://www.bytefest.org/english-info2/

    New at Archive.org

    • https://archive.org/details/@savetz

    Nir Dary Segment - Wapniak 2017

    • http://atarionline.pl/v01/index.php?ct=nowinki&ucat=1&subaction=showfull&id=1494775627
    • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9If_2dVBqmg

    Possible side effects of listening to the Antic podcast include stuffy nose, sneezing, sore throat; drowsiness, dizziness, feeling nervous; mild nausea, upset stomach, constipation;

    increased appetite, weight changes; insomnia, decreased sex drive, impotence, or difficulty having an orgasm; dry mouth, intense hate of Commodore, and Amiga lust. Certain conditions apply. Offer good for those with approved credit. Member FDIC. An equal housing lender.


    ANTIC Interview 280 - David and Betsy Ahl, Creative Computing Magazine May 24, 2017
    Show notes

    David Ahl and Betsy Ahl, Creative Computing Magazine Dave Ahl was the founder and editor-in-chief of Creating Computing Magazine, which was the first personal computer magazine. Four editors served in the first six years: Dave Ahl, Steve Gray, John Craig, and Ted Nelson. Betsy Staples (now Betsy Ahl) then took over for the rest of its run. Creative Computing was published starting in November 1974, was acquired by Ziff Davis in 1983, and ceased publication in December 1985. In addition to Creative Computing, Dave and Betsy published a variety of other magazines including Sync (dedicated to the Timex Sinclair computers), Microsystems, Small Business Computers, and Creative Computing Video & Arcade Games Magazine. They also released a record album -- First Philadelphia Computer Music Festival (1979), a board game called Computer Rage, and software for a variety of platforms under the Creative Computing Software label. Dave was author of BASIC Computer Games, the first million-selling computer book; plus its sequel, more BASIC Computer Games, and many other early computer books. After Creative Computing, Dave was publisher and Betsy was editor of Atari Explorer magazine for five years and he started Atarian magazine in 1989. Later, he published Military Vehicles magazine. This interview took place on April 3 and 4, 2013, when I was doing research for a book about the first personal computer magazines. Although I've decided not to write the book, I am publishing the interviews that I did for them. The other major interview was with Wayne Green: there's a link to that interview in the show notes. The first part of the interview took place in the bar at the Heathman Hotel in Portland, Oregon. (There's some ambient background noise and music — remember, this recording was meant to be my notes for a book, so a little background noise wasn't an issue.) The second part of the interview was recorded in my dining room, a much quieter atmosphere. The day before this was recorded, Dave and Betsy attended a grand opening get-together of tech luminaries at the Living Computer Museum in Seattle, Washington. This event is mentioned several times during the interview. A full transcript of this interview is available at ComputingPioneers.com. Also, there are many links to related articles, interviews, and magazine scans in the show notes at AtariPodcast.com. Teaser quote: "When I started Creative Computing, I mean there weren't even personal computers at that point. I was convinced, I guess, that they would come about. I had no idea that it would be three months later that the Altair came about." Outro music: Scott Joplin's Maple Leaf Rag, played on an RCA COSMAC by Joe Welsbecker on the First Philadelphia Computer Music Festival record (1979.) Transcript of this interview Scans of Creative Computing at Internet Archive Full text of 35 issues of Creative Computing at AtariMagazines.com Best of Creative Computing volume 1, 2, 3 Creative Computing Magazine pages per issue Scans of Atari Explorer at AtariMania First Philadelphia Computer Music Festival record Computer Rage board game Dave Ahl: Blunders in Personal Computing, talk at VCF East 6.0 My Arthur Leyenberger interview My Arlan Levitan Interview My Wayne Green interview My 2003 written interview with Dave Dave Tells Ahl: The History of Creative Computing" by John Anderson


    ANTIC Interview 279 - Tom Eckmann, Kyan Software May 21, 2017
    Show notes

    Tom Eckmann, President of Kyan Software Tom Eckmann was president and co-founder of Kyan Software. Kyan's flagship product was Kyan Pascal, an implementation of the Pascal programming language which was available for the Apple II, Atari 8-bits, and Commodore 64/128 computers. This interview took place on May 19, 2017. Teaser quote: "We sneered at Turbo Pascal because it was non-compliant, there were all of these un-pure features. ... He [Philippe Kahn] just looks looks at me and goes, 'Nobody gives a damn.'" Kyan Software at AtariMania Antic magazine review of Kyan Pascal Kyan Pascal at Internet Archive


    ANTIC Interview 278 - Bill Bowman, CEO of Spinnaker Software May 17, 2017
    Show notes

    Bill Bowman, CEO of Spinnaker Software Bill Bowman was co-founder and CEO of Spinnaker Software, one of the first software companies that focused exclusively on educational software. He was at the company from its founding in 1982 through 1987. Spinnaker's software line-up included Snooper Troops, Delta Drawing, FaceMaker, Adventure Creator, In Search of the Most Amazing Thing, KinderComp, and many other titles. In early 1984 InfoWorld called Spinnaker the 16th largest software company in the world, with $10 million in 1983 sales. This interview took place on May 16, 2017. "All of a sudden, one Friday at 6:30, she came through the door with beer and soda pop and lots of snacks, and six children ... Of course it shut down the office completely." Spinnaker at Atarimania Wikipedia on Spinnaker Inside Spinnaker Software (InfoWorld magazine)


    ANTIC Episode 42 - No, MAM! May 09, 2017
    Show notes

    In this episode of ANTIC The Atari 8-bit Computer Podcast, Kevin wows us with his winners in the NOMAM BASIC 10-liners contest, we discuss the preparations for VCFSE, Nir Dary tells us all about disk drives, and we discuss all the Atari news that's fit to print. READY! Recurring Links Floppy Days Podcast AtariArchives.org AtariMagazines.com Kevin's Book "Terrible Nerd" New Atari books scans at archive.org ANTIC feedback at AtariAge Atari interview discussion thread on AtariAge ANTIC Facebook Page AHCS Eaten By a Grue What we've been up to Indy vintage computer club - http://www.indyclassic.org/ , https://www.facebook.com/groups/1082702455167563/ Atari 800XE - http://www.ebay.com/itm/Atari-800xe-/162383912577 , http://www.old-computers.com/museum/computer.asp?c=982&st=1 Atari XEP80 Interface Module - http://www.atarimania.com/faq-atari-400-800-xl-xe-what-is-the-atari-xep80-interface-module_39.html Multi-Link - http://atariage.com/forums/gallery/image/17135-multilink-gamelink/ Jumpman level source code commenting: http://atariage.com/forums/topic/259304-jumpman-levels-with-custom-code/?p=3736842 Quote Blaster/Tribunal - Atari computer game Quote Blaster thread on AtariAge - http://atariage.com/forums/topic/236768-the-atari-interview-discussion-thread/?p=3731983 APX Knightsoil Submission Materials Amoeba Debugger/Mini assembler. http://atariage.com/forums/topic/264052-amoeba-newly-discovered-proto-software/ High Score Club Season 14, Round 5 - Kaverns of KFest - http://atariage.com/forums/topic/263482-hsc14-round-5-getaway-more-getaway-bonus-kaverns-of-kfest/ News book: Breakout: How Atari 8-Bit Computers Defined a Generation by Jamie Lendino - http://amzn.to/2pTOisT NOMAM 10-line BASIC contest results - http://gkanold.wixsite.com/homeputerium/results-2017 NOMAM 10-line BASIC contest Discussion - http://atariage.com/forums/topic/261637-basic-10liners-2017/page-3 YouTube videos this month (not Nir Dary): ATARI 800 PSP - emulator ATARI by Marcin Czekała - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNLVHkGWeo0 author JAMIE LENDINO on the impact Atari computers had on the world - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzatiqdRTY8 Software Development on the Atari 8-bit with a Corvus Hard Disk by Thomas Cherryhomes - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCOsrefp4rA Tom Cherryhomes - Amoeba - a Debugging and Patching tool for Atari 8-bit Computers - https://youtu.be/ZZ1fQC4V8uE electrotrains - Uno Cart DIY in Excel Magazine - http://atariage.com/forums/topic/263831-unocart-diy-article-in-excel-magazine-issue-4/ 'I was there when Atari left Limerick with 600 jobs. It's a day I hope to never repeat', thejournal.ie, May 8, 2017 - http://www.thejournal.ie/bill-doherty-cook-medical-limerick-3-3329799-Apr2017/ SIO2BT update - http://atariage.com/forums/topic/228860-sio2bt/page-8#entry3727273 https://8bitgeneration.vhx.tv/packages/easy-to-learn-hard-to-master-standard-edition/videos/final-cut-def-h264-vhx GunFright - http://atariteca.blogspot.com/2017/04/version-final-de-gunfright-para-atari.html Excel issue 4 - http://atariteca.blogspot.com/2017/04/atari-la-venta-cuarto-numero-de-la.html The best original games of 2016 for Atari computers - http://atariteca.blogspot.com/2016/12/el-mejor-juego-original-del-2016-para.html The best ports, hacks and extended versions of Atari computer games for 2016 - http://atariteca.blogspot.com/2016/12/el-mejor-port-hack-y-version-extendida.html Update on RetroChallenge 2017/04 - http://www.retrochallenge.org/ Tom Raidna Atari project for RetroChallenge - traidna.wordpress.com Bill Lange and Peter Fletcher putting together Atari party - https://www.facebook.com/bill.lange Bill Kendrick's Atari Party - http://www.newbreedsoftware.com/atariparty/2016/ Nir Dary videos this month How to make an SIO2PC cable for about $6 with no soldering - https://youtu.be/-xXBNQIFKLE Demo of the VBXE Graphic enhancement board for the Atari 8bit computer https://youtu.be/o51S_ylNP4A ATARI 8bit with Rapidus & U1MB running ZX Spectrum Games (Golden Axe and more) - https://youtu.be/3HsveNrEWgk Playing the Antic Podcast show Episode 1 on a real Atari 800 computer - https://youtu.be/ktUgqt_G1EU Sampling Audio on ATARI 8bit computer - https://youtu.be/FUwyDJV0ytI Other Upcoming Shows where you might see Atari computers VCF Southeast - April 29 & 30, 2017, Roswell, GA - http://vcfse.org/ TI Fest West - Saturday April 29th from 9 am to 5 pm, Oak Tree Restaurant in Woodland, Washington - http://atariage.com/forums/topic/260465-fest-west-2017/ Kansasfest July 18-23 https://www.kansasfest.org VCF West - August 5-6, 2017 - Computer History Museum, 1401 N. Shoreline Blvd., Mountain View, California - http://vcfed.org/wp/festivals/vintage-computer-festival-west-xi/ VCFMW - Sept. 9-10, Elk Grove Village, IL - http://vcfmw.org/ PRGE http://www.retrogamingexpo.com Oct 20-22 May 25th to May 28th - OUTLINE Demo Party in Holland - http://outlinedemoparty.nl/ :: FOReVER o18, FOReVER - nostalgic 8-bit multiscene party - http://forever.zeroteam.sk Sommarhack 2017 - Home, SOMMARHACK 2017 JULY 7 - 9 - http://dhs.nu/sommarhack/2017/ Fujiama 2017 17.8.2017 - 20.8.2017 - http://www.abbuc.de/news-feeds-component/events/icalrepeat.detail/2017/08/17/215/-/fujiama-2017 OldComp Party #3 (Czech Republic) 8.9.2017 - 10.9.2017 ByteFest 2017 13.10.2017 - 15.10.2017 - http://www.bytefest.org/english-info2/ Ajka Hungary, Arok party Aug 11 to Aug 13, 2017 - https://www.facebook.com/ArokParty/ New at Archive.org Energy Czar manual Caverns Of Mars manual, Atari 800 Series Atarisoft - Now Your Computer Fits the Arcade Hits Parker Brothers' Gyruss manual Mastertronic's Ninja manual Raid Over Moscow manual I.C.D.s Technicolor Dream manual PS Interface manual Micro Painter Plus manual Video Title Shop MECC's Atari Font Editor The Official Scott Adams' Adventure Hint Book Atari Necromancer Atari Crossbow Microprose F 15 Strike Eagle manual - 15 July 86 Change 6 MicroProse Kennedy Approach June 85 APX Eastern Front 1941 Version 4 Silent Service manual Top Gunner Collection manual F-15 Strike Eagle Flight Operation Manual Technical Reference For Hayes Modem Users (1991) Technical Reference Hayes Synchronous Interface For Application Software Hayes Stack Chronograph Owners Manual Technical Reference For Hayes Modem Users (1993) Gunfright The Banner Canner Instruction Manual Nir Dary Segment - Disk Drives http://gury.atari8.info/categ/h_disk_drives.php http://www.atarimania.com/faq-atari-400-800-xl-xe-what-other-floppy-disk-drives-can-i-use-with-my-atari_23.html http://atariage.com/forums/topic/228792-karin-maxi-drive-atari-65800130xe-sic/ End of Show Music "I Love My Atari" by Zygomatik, 2006. Available in itunes. Possible side effects of listening to the Antic podcast include stuffy nose, sneezing, sore throat; drowsiness, dizziness, feeling nervous; mild nausea, upset stomach, constipation; increased appetite, weight changes; insomnia, decreased sex drive, impotence, or difficulty having an orgasm; dry mouth, intense hate of Commodore, and Amiga lust. Certain conditions apply. Offer good for those with approved credit. Member FDIC. An equal housing lender.

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