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    And The Writer Is…with Ross Golan

    Every week, we sit down with an acclaimed and venerable songwriter to intimately discuss what happens behind closed doors in the music industry. There are millions of singers, thousands of artists, and only 40 top songs per genre at a time… this podcast is about the people who make them. Produced by Joe London & Ross Golan in association with Big Deal Music & Mega House Music. And The Writer Is… ™


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    Ep. 222: Ed Sheeran | Inside The Craft of a Songwriter’s Songwriter Sep 29, 2025
    Show notes

    Today's guest is quite literally one of the greatest songwriters of all time.

    He also happens to be one of the biggest artists of all time. Imagine that.

    This legend needs no introduction...


    And the writer is... Ed Sheeran!


    Presented by our friends at NMPA.

    A huge thank you to our sponsors.


    NMPA fights for songwriters' rights, ensuring fair pay and protection.

    Check them out at NMPA.org and follow them on social media at ⁨@NMPAorg⁩


    Splice is the industry’s top sample library—royalty-free for all. It empowers creators with its incredible library and ethical AI tools, supporting original artists every step of the way.

    Download Splice today and follow them on social media at ⁨@splice⁩


    Chapters:

    00:00:00 - Intro

    00:02:05 - Ed and Ross Reconnect

    00:04:41 - From Rap Battles to Shaping His Songwriting

    00:07:07 - Painting as Creative Outlet

    00:09:13 - Emotional Ties to Songs, Writing Honest Songs for Himself and Others

    00:12:05 - Childhood Music: Beatles, Dylan, and Irish Trad Influences

    00:15:07 - Fatherhood’s Impact: Balancing Music and Family

    00:16:26 - Ed Sings His First Song!

    00:18:30 - Ed Sings, Ross Tests His Song Memory

    00:20:27 - The Key to Confidence Starts With....

    00:22:10 - Advice: Navigating the Music Industry’s Challenges

    00:24:20 - Where Ed Gets His 'Buzz' From Music

    00:25:50 - The Thing That Made His Songwriting 'Stick'

    00:28:35 - No Plan B: Why He Never Gave Up

    00:30:04 - Discovery by Jamie Foxx: Breaking into the Scene

    00:36:14 - Mid-Roll Ad: NMPA Fighting for Songwriters

    00:36:52 - Mid-Roll Ad: Splice Supporting Creators with AI

    00:44:11 - First Cuts: Writing for Olly Murs and One Direction

    00:46:58 - Creative Process

    00:52:12 - The Lawsuit That Changed Everything

    00:55:49 - Protecting Songwriters: Why No Union Exists

    01:05:57 - Making "Perfect" to Prove Himself After the Lawsuit

    01:12:49 - Advice to Young Songwriters...

    01:14:03 - Legacy Songs: What Ed Wants His Grandkids to Hear

    01:15:23 - Family Over Fame: Being a Present Dad

    01:20:38 - Songs Ed’s Jealous Of

    01:23:46 - Closing: Ed’s Gratitude and Future Plans


    And The Writer Is...

    Hosted by Ross Golan

    Executive produced by Joe London and Jad Saad


    Follow us on socials at @andthewriteris ​

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.


    Ep. 221: Andrew Watt | How He Became the Go-To Producer for the World’s Biggest Artists Sep 15, 2025
    Show notes

    Today's guest is one of the most sought-after hitmakers of the last decade. A Grammy-winning producer, songwriter, and guitarist whose genre-bending work has shaped the sound of modern music. From rock legends to pop superstars, he’s collaborated with Justin Bieber, Post Malone, Ozzy Osbourne, The Rolling Stones, Dua Lipa, Miley Cyrus, and more — earning The Recording Academy’s Producer of the Year award and cementing his status as one of the most in-demand hitmakers on the planet.


    And the writer is... Andrew Watt!


    In this episode, Watt opens up to Ross about the relentless drive, bold creative leaps, and collaborative ethos that fueled his journey from bar gigs and $100-a-week tours to producing global anthems.

    Listeners will learn:


    • How to build trust and chemistry in the studio
    • Why great producers prioritize vibe and artist comfort over gear
    • How to manage egos, collaboration splits, and team dynamics at the top level
    • The real stories behind hits like Let Me Love You, Havana, Señorita, Stay, and Peaches
    • How to survive imposter syndrome and stay creatively free under pressure


    Chapters

    0:00 - Andrew Watt: The Hitmaking Legend

    1:12 - From Bieber to Ozzy: Watt’s Epic Journey

    2:20 - Studio Sparks: Watt’s Energy vs. Cirkut’s Chill

    4:47 - Rock Gods: Producing Pearl Jam & Stones

    8:02 - Post Malone Meets Ozzy: A Game-Changer

    9:31 - Rainbow Bar Magic: Ozzy & Post’s Collab

    14:54 - Greece Hustle: $100/Week Tour Life

    19:14 - Why Watt Never Quit Music

    24:44 - Guitar to Glory: Cody Simpson to Bieber

    27:01 - Music Truth: Results Are Everything

    28:52 - “Let Me Love You”: Bieber’s Wild Ride

    39:52 - Pop Hits: “Havana” & “Wolves” Secrets

    42:02 - Dream Team: Ali, Brian & Pop Gold

    46:21 - “Havana” Moment: Camila’s Mic Drop

    48:27 - Post Malone: Instant Bond & Real Talk

    50:06 - Imposter Syndrome: Honesty in the Studio

    51:17 - “Stay”: Post’s Non-Pop Masterpiece

    56:22 - “Peaches”: Justin’s Jam with Shawn & Hailey

    58:38 - Demos That Hit Hard: Watt’s Emotions

    1:00:36 - Lady Gaga: Crafting a Visual Epic

    1:02:15 - Bruno & D’Mile: “Die with a Smile” Magic

    1:06:34 - Prank Call Chaos

    1:12:11 - Prank Aftermath

    1:19:17 - Heartfelt Loss: Watt’s Tribute to a Friend

    1:20:16 - Ozzy’s Advice: Be Kind on the Way Up


    This season of And The Writer Is… is presented by the National Music Publishers’ Association (NMPA) — the voice of American songwriters, composers, and music publishers.


    And The Writer Is...

    Hosted by Ross Golan

    Executive Produced by Joe London and Jad Saad

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.


    Ep. 220: Tayla Parx | Longevity & Building a Lasting Career Sep 08, 2025
    Show notes

    Today’s guest is more than a hitmaker — she’s a creative force who has shaped the sound of a generation. From penning chart-toppers like “Thank U, Next” (Ariana Grande), “High Hopes” (Panic! at the Disco), and “Love Lies” (Khalid & Normani) to building her own label, publishing company, and artist career, her story is a masterclass in reinvention, resilience, and longevity.


    And the writer is… Tayla Parx!


    In this episode, Tayla sits down with Ross to unpack how she’s navigated more than a decade at the top of the music industry — from her start in Hairspray to writing with Babyface, to becoming one of the few Black women with a #1 country song. She opens up about:

    • Surviving the pressures of back-to-back sessions and industry burnout
    • Turning setbacks into fuel for her artistry and business ventures
    • Why branding yourself as a songwriter matters as much as the songs
    • The art of staying relevant without chasing trends
    • How to keep building a catalog that pays you for decades to come

    For every songwriter, artist, or creative grinding to build a career that lasts — this is the blueprint.


    🎧 Listen now and learn how Tayla Parx keeps writing hits… again and again.


    Chapters


    0:00 Teaser – Why Longevity Matters in Music

    1:37 Intro: And The Writer Is… Tayla Parx!

    8:33 From Dallas Kid to Hairspray & Nickelodeon Star

    12:49 Finding Songwriting & Learning From Babyface

    14:07 Leaving Acting Behind to Chase Music Full-Time

    24:53 The Warner Chappell Era: Building a Writer Community

    27:15 Breakthrough Hits: “Thank U, Next” & “High Hopes”

    31:38 NMPA Ad – Fighting for Songwriter Rights

    32:45 Inside the Story of “Thank U, Next”

    39:37 How to Build a Catalog That Pays for Decades

    40:55 “Love Lies” & Crossing Genres as a Hitmaker

    50:34 Advocating for Women, Black Creatives & LGBTQ+ Voices

    52:00 Why Tayla Still Releases Her Own Music

    53:20 From Bieber to John Legend to Country #1

    55:32 Exploring Jazz, R&B, and Children’s Music

    59:34 Song Splits, Collaboration & Session Dynamics

    1:03:41 Why Collaboration Matters (and When to Write Alone)

    1:11:38 The Secret to Longevity & Reinvention

    1:16:25 Closing Reflections & Legacy


    And The Writer Is… is presented by The National Music Publishers’ Association (NMPA) — advocating for songwriters, music publishers, and their essential rights.

    Learn more at NMPA.org


    Hosted by Ross Golan

    Executive Produced by Joe London and Jad Saad

    Watercolor by Michael White

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.


    Ep. 219: Laufey | Redefining Jazz for a New Generation Sep 02, 2025
    Show notes

    Today’s guest is nothing short of a phenomenon.

    With roots in Iceland and China, raised in a family of classical musicians, she grew up between symphony halls and jazz records — and has now become the defining voice of her generation.

    Her music is a breathtaking blend of timeless jazz, classical elegance, and modern storytelling that has captivated millions around the world. From posting standards online during college to headlining the Hollywood Bowl, she’s built a movement — proving that jazz not only lives, but thrives in the hands of a new generation.

    Her Grammy-winning sophomore album, Bewitched, cemented her as an international force. And now with her brand-new release, A Matter of Time, she dives deeper into emotional vulnerability and sonic ambition — pushing jazz, classical, and folk influences into a sound that feels both cinematic and intimate.

    Named one of Time’s Women of the Year, celebrated by critics and adored by fans, she is redefining what it means to be an artist in the modern age.


    And The Writer Is… Laufey!


    And The Writer Is… is hosted by Ross Golan and executive produced by Joe London and Jad Saad.


    As always, we’d like to thank our friends at the National Music Publishers’ Association. The NMPA is dedicated to protecting the rights of songwriters and music publishers, ensuring that the creators behind the songs we love are fairly represented and compensated. We’re grateful for their continued support of this show and our community of writers.


    Learn more at NMPA.org

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.


    Ep. 218: Conan Gray | From Bedroom to Global Sensation Aug 25, 2025
    Show notes

    Today’s guest began on YouTube — a teenager posting bedroom covers to a handful of viewers.

    Now, his songs have been streamed billions of times across the globe.

    He’s headlined sold-out arenas on multiple continents, become a global fashion force, and built one of the most devoted fanbases of his generation.

    He’s collaborated with legends like Max Martin, while never losing the raw honesty that made his music essential in the first place.

    He’s not just a rising star — he’s already one of pop’s defining voices.

    And with his new album, he proves that even at the biggest scale, vulnerability is still his superpower.

    And the writer is… Conan Gray!


    Follow us on socials! @andthewriteris


    Thank you to NMPA for sponsoring this season, and fighting for songwriters as well as this podcast.


    00:00 – This Is Conan Gray (teaser)

    01:00 – Singing Disney With Ross 🎶

    02:00 – From Bedroom Dreams to Billions

    02:59 – Growing Up Lonely, Writing to Survive

    04:45 – The Music Video That Rewired His Brain

    06:30 – When Adele Proved Bedroom Songs Were Possible

    07:30 – Uploading at Age 9 (Before He Knew the Internet)

    14:15 – “Nothing Sounded Like Me”

    15:45 – Panic Attacks → Falling in Love With Touring

    21:15 – Dropping Out & Betting Everything on Music

    23:20 – The Moment His Sister Realized He Was Famous

    24:30 – Turning Heartbreak Into Healing on Stage

    26:00 – The Nightmare of Empty Venues

    28:30 – Dan Nigro: The Producer Who Changed Everything

    30:15 – Why Conan Refuses to Believe He’s ‘Made It’

    33:22 – Ad Break – Support Songwriters (NMPA)

    34:00 – ‘Maniac’: The Shower Song That Hit a Billion 🚿

    35:45 – Heather: The Song Everyone Slept On… Until They Didn’t

    40:32 – Found Heaven: His Public Bootcamp

    43:23 – Max Martin’s Biggest Lesson (That Changed His Writing)

    47:00 – Rediscovering Himself on Wishbone

    50:05 – The Falsetto High Note That Almost Broke Him

    52:07 – Cornell: The Song Too Honest to Ignore

    53:00 – Why Radical Honesty Is His Only Rule

    55:00 – Why His Art Isn’t Just Music

    56:00 – The Three Songs That Define His New Era

    01:03:15 – What He’d Tell 12-Year-Old Conan

    01:07:00 – Ross: “You Wrote a Song I Wish Was Mine”


    Hosted by Ross Golan

    Executive Produced by Joe London and Jad Saad

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.


    Ep. 217: Rodney Jerkins (pt.2) | The Alchemy of Greatness Aug 06, 2025
    Show notes

    He believed before anyone else did.

    Before the Grammys.

    Before the 39 billion streams.

    Before Say My Name changed the sound of radio forever.

    He was just a kid on a New Jersey bus, chasing a dream no one else could see.

    In this episode, legendary producer Rodney “Darkchild” Jerkins shares how faith, fire, and pure conviction took him from a basement studio to shaping the sound of a generation. From Michael Jackson to Beyoncé, Lady Gaga, and Sam Smith, Rodney opens up about the mindset behind the music — and why belief is still the most powerful tool a creator has.

    You’ll hear about the reset that saved his career, the changing landscape of songwriting in the AI era, and the stories behind some of the most iconic records of the last 25 years.


    And The Writer Is... Rodney Jerkins.

    Topics:

    • The real story behind Say My Name
    • Working with Michael Jackson, Beyoncé, and Gaga
    • Why belief matters more than talent
    • How to stay inspired (even after burnout)
    • AI, music tech, and what’s missing from today's process
    • What every songwriter needs to know about their value

    Sponsored by:

    SONA, DIMA, Amazon Music, and YouTube Songwriters.

    Thank you for supporting us and protecting the future of songwriting!


    Produced by Ross Golan, Joe London, and Jad Saad

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.


    Key Moment: Ryan Tedder | How to Be Irreplaceable Jul 28, 2025
    Show notes

    What does it really take to become irreplaceable in music?


    This is more than a lesson in music. It’s a masterclass in how to make yourself essential in any room you enter.


    In this episode, Ryan Tedder shares a raw, unfiltered blueprint for building a career that stands the test of time.


    From mastering guitar, piano, and production to writing two songs a day, Ryan unpacks why versatility, humility, and relentless work ethic are the hidden currencies of longevity. He breaks down the mindset shifts that separate fleeting success from lasting impact, and why assuming everyone is more talented than you might just be your greatest advantage.

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.


    Ep. 216: Ryan Tedder (pt.3) | How to Win in Music and Life Jul 07, 2025
    Show notes

    Today’s guest is the mastermind behind some of the biggest songs on earth – a creative force whose melodies have shaped generations. From crafting timeless anthems with Beyoncé, Adele, and Taylor Swift to leading OneRepublic to global dominance, he’s not just a hitmaker – he’s an architect of modern music.


    In this conversation, Ryan Tedder rips the veil off fame and fortune, revealing the hidden costs of success, the brutal truths no one talks about, and his unfiltered blueprint for building wealth, longevity, and creative mastery in a world obsessed with trends. He dives deep into why most artists fail, how boredom became his superpower, and what it actually takes to build a legacy that lasts.


    This isn’t an interview. It’s a wake-up call for every creator chasing relevance in 2025 and beyond.


    And The Writer Is… Ryan Tedder! (Part 3)


    Produced by Joe London, Ross Golan, & Jad Saad


    Chapters:

    00:00 Intro

    00:52 His Morning Routine That Changed Everything

    02:06 How Boredom Made Him Creative

    03:40 The Hidden Dark Side of Fame

    05:50 Justin Timberlake’s Brutal Warning

    10:15 Fame is a Prison: Stories from the Top

    14:14 Why He Hid His Singing Talent as a Kid

    17:25 Lady Gaga’s Secret Ambition Revealed

    20:55 Money Makes You a Target

    23:02 His Dream: Rich But Unknown

    25:26 Investing Millions Outside Music

    27:05 Why Famous Artists Go Broke

    31:02 Getting Dropped Saved His Career

    36:13 What $50 Million a Year Really Means

    39:22 NMPA Sponsor Break

    41:01 Labels Want You Wild & Broke

    44:40 Can You Win Without Flexing?

    47:12 Managers Who Destroy Artists’ Careers

    50:52 Why Tate McRae Is Built Different

    53:37 OneRepublic’s Secret to Longevity

    57:12 Sync Deals vs Streaming: Where Money Really Is

    01:00:52 His Songwriting Secrets & ‘God Moments’

    01:05:00 How He Stays Creative After 20+ Years

    01:09:00 The Role of Trust in Hit-Making

    01:13:00 Stories of Working With DJs & Pop Stars

    01:17:00 The Future of Music & AI’s Impact

    01:21:00 His Philosophy on Work Ethic & Success

    01:25:00 Final Words: Advice to Creators

    01:29:00 Outro

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.


    Key Moment: Russ | What Every Artist Needs to Know (10-Minute Blueprint) Jun 30, 2025
    Show notes

    In this powerful 10-minute blueprint, Russ breaks down what every artist needs to know to build a real career in today’s music industry. From his mindset of delusional self-belief to strategic release plans and business truths, this clip will change the way you approach your music journey forever.


    Subscribe for more industry insight and give us a rating if you enjoyed this! It helps us keep this show free forever, which is our commitment to the industry and our audience.


    Presented by NMPA

    https://www.nmpa.org/


    Chapters:

    0:00 Why Songs Don’t Blow Up

    0:15 Is Inspiration Overrated?

    0:33 Writing Big Songs While Uninspired

    1:05 How Russ Would Start From Zero Today

    1:24 Stockpiling Songs & Posting Strategy

    1:57 Do You Want Success Bad Enough?

    2:01 Russ’ Duality: Confidence vs. Doubt

    2:21 The Power of Delusional Self-Belief

    3:02 Why Songwriters Should Stop Giving Songs Away

    3:51 Why Most Artists Stay Broke

    5:06 Taking Control of Your Music Business

    6:38 The Purity of Creating Without an Audience

    7:04 The Audience Picks The Hits

    8:07 Russ’ Song-a-Week Strategy Explained

    8:39 When a Song Flops: Russ on Bankrupt

    9:13 Why It’s Okay If It’s Not The One

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.


    Ep. 215: Jessie Reyez | The Story of Betting On Herself (For Anyone Starting Over) Jun 23, 2025
    Show notes

    Today’s guest is a fearless storyteller whose voice is as raw as her lyrics—bold, emotional, and unapologetically real. A first-generation Colombian-Canadian, she turned hustle into art, weaving her experiences into songs that hit like truth bombs. Whether she’s penning heart-wrenching ballads or delivering razor-sharp verses alongside icons like Eminem and Beyoncé, her work is grounded in authenticity and fire. She’s busked, she’s bartended, she’s broken through. And now, with her third studio album, she continues to push boundaries—proving that vulnerability, grit, and honesty never go out of style. From Toronto to the world… And the writer is… Jessie Reyez!


    Produced by Joe London, Ross Golan, and Jad Saad


    Special thank you to our season sponsor NMPA!


    Chapters:


    00:01:36 – Start Here: Why This Episode Will Change You

    00:02:37 – How Jessie Met Eminem and Earned His Respect

    00:09:50 – What Jessie Learned Giving Back to Songwriters

    00:16:52 – Jessie’s First Song Ever (It’s Cringey… and Brilliant)

    00:18:28 – Jessie’s Crazy Lyric Memory & Why It Matters

    00:18:51 – From Choir Rooms to Stadiums: Where It All Began

    00:27:57 – The Moment She Gave Herself One Year

    00:31:12 – How Her Mom’s Brutal English Drills Made Jessie a Genius

    00:35:35 – What Happens After the Hit? Jessie Tells All

    00:37:11 – The Exact Moment She Knew Her Life Was Changing

    00:42:36 – The Video That Changed Everything (She Almost Didn't Post)

    00:45:14 – How a $50 Bus Ride Got Her Into the Remix Project

    00:48:18 – Why She Stayed Up 14 Hours Editing Her First Video

    00:50:12 – The Brave Story Jessie Told That Changed Everything

    00:51:17 – Writing 'Figures' — The Raw, Drunken, Real Truth

    00:56:44 – The Writing Camp That Sparked Her Breakthrough Hit

    00:57:11 – How 'Figures' Was Really Written (And Why It Still Hurts)

    01:00:00 – Gatekeeper: Calling Out Sexism in the Music Industry

    01:01:42 – What MeToo Missed — And What Jessie Risked to Say

    01:02:58 – The Heavy Cost of Telling the Truth

    01:05:43 – Why Being Vulnerable is Jessie’s Greatest Superpower

    01:06:20 – Jessie on Drake, Bieber, The Weeknd & Canadian Greatness

    01:07:14 – Why So Many GOATs Come Out of Canada

    01:08:11 – From Open Mics to Eminem: The Legacy She’s Building

    01:18:14 – The Insane Calvin Harris Story (You Won’t Believe This One)

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.


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