Stay ConnectedAnd THAT’s That! is a wickedly smart, thought-provoking, and accessible conversation tying together current events and Black culture. Hosted by Taryn Finley, Ja’han Jones, and Shaquille Romblay.
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Just in time for Thanksgiving week, Nikole Hannah-Jones joins the podcast to discuss revisionist history, which often omits the ways slavery provided a foundation for the U.S. to thrive. She is a Pulitzer Prize-winning reporter for The New York Times Magazine and creator of the 1619 Project. In the time since its debut, “The 1619 Project” has been widely celebrated for its candor and creativity, and some schools around the country have even introduced it into their curricula.
Predictably, the project has had vocal, vitriolic detractors — most of whom are white and one of whom is an outgoing president — revolt against its honest depictions of America’s founding, which deviate from the rosy images they have seen for years.
In short: They big mad!
But ― to borrow a trite phrase ― “facts don’t care about your feelings.” Hannah-Jones is as powerful a truth-teller as you will find today. Listen and learn.
Later in the episode, Ja'han and Shaquille dissect the 2021 GRAMMY award nominees, and discuss Hasan Minhaj's viral video, as well as the powerful 'Fresh Prince of Bel-Air' reunion special, and why Netflix is pulling 'Chapelle's Show' from its catalog.
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Y'all, 2020 has put her foot in it! This year we've seen heavy news of all sorts, from endless instances of police shooting Black people, to a deadly pandemic and an election that saw the nation teetering on the brink of autocracy. Many Americans are coping with these traumas while in isolation.
Joining us this week is licensed therapist Nicola Pierre-Smith, an expert in mental wellness who offers guidance as several states across the nation prepare to impose some form of lockdown to curb the rapid spread of the coronavirus. Pierre-Smith specializes in advising clients who have undergone trauma, and she is the founder of Melanated Women’s Health, an organization focused on destigmatizing mental health care in Black and brown communities. Luckily, Pierre-Smith has some tips to help us keep our spirits high during this time.
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Hell week — er, election week is finally over, and Joe Biden and Kamala Harris have been announced as president-elect and vice president-elect. For the first time in history, a Black, South Asian American woman who graduated from a historically Black university has been elected vice president. And, of course, Donald Trump is having a hissy fit instead of bowing out gracefully.
After four long days of vote-counting drama, Four Seasons (Total Landscaping, not the hotel chain!) mix-ups and Black women carrying this election on their backs yet again, HuffPost front page editor Phil Lewis joins the latest episode as a special guest to help break down this historic news.
Plus, we get into the nitty gritty of this week’s latest headlines that have nothing to do with politics at all, because truth is, we’re tired, including what King Von’s death means for Chicago’s drill music scene, Alex Trebek’s multigenerational importance in Black families and Keke Palmer’s tweets about electronic benefits transfer cards.
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The madness surrounding the election just could not keep us away from our listeners this week. We’re back and switching it up this episode for an election special, and we’re joined by Jamelle Bouie, New York Times columnist and political analyst for CBS News, to discuss all there is to know about the 2020 election and the potential results.
“Going into election night, the expectation was that this was either going to be a total repudiation of the president’s party or they hold on somehow.” Bouie told HuffPost. “It looks like we’re getting basically a combination of both outcomes.”
Bouie talks with the hosts about the huge turnout among Black voters in swing states across the country, America’s debt to Black voters, especially Black women; and how Trump has used his platform as America’s most famous fraud to his advantage. And the hosts share what it was like to vote this election.
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2020 isn’t just the year of COVID. It’s a year of crossroads. And there is no turning back now amid this historic social justice movement, with millions taking their rallying cries to the streets *during a pandemic*
On this week’s episode, we are joined by one of the founders of the Black Lives Matter movement, Alicia Garza to discuss her new book, ”The Purpose of Power: How We Come Together When We Fall Apart.” Garza drops gems, rubies and pearls about the history of the Black Lives Matter movement and explains the importance of voting in this upcoming election.
Also joining us this episode is HuffPost UK producer and friend of the show, Jayson Mansaray, to discuss Black History Month in the UK, which is commemorated in October. We talk about the legacy of the celebratory month, the racism Meghan Markle experienced at the hands of the British press, and how the Black Lives Matter movement in the US has influenced protests and discourse in the UK.
Lastly, we discuss virtual homecomings and the new trailer for Cheaters with “Love & Hip Hop New York’s” own creep squad captain Peter Gunz, and much more. And THAT’S That!
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This year, a confluence of social catastrophes in America has shed light on longstanding, life-altering power imbalances. The coronavirus pandemic, protests against police violence and numerous high-profile incidents involving sexual and domestic violence have all revealed that suffering is not shared equally. Even during times of universal crisis, there are always groups who fare better than others by exploiting their privilege.
Tarana Burke, founder of the Me Too movement, has spent decades dismantling these kinds of power structures. Burke is the brilliant mind behind the modern movement against sexual violence and abuse, which was founded in 2006. Today she is ushering the movement into its next phase. Her new platform, called “Act Too,” is designed to give users tools to combat abuse and to ensure that marginalized voices have a stake in how the movement proceeds. With Me Too entering its “second act,” Burke joined “And THAT’S That!” to discuss ways the pandemic is endangering victims of assault.
This episode is good for the soul and will leave you with some powerful action items. Check it!
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While Americans are calling to defund the police in the United States, Nigerians are demanding an end to police corruption and violence through the global hashtag #ENDSARS. For nearly two weeks, protesters in the West African country have taken to the streets to fight for an end to the federal police force Special Anti-Robbery Squad (SARS) after a video emerged of officers allegedly killing a man. Though the global attention to this issue is new, Amnesty International Country Director Osai Ojigho, our guest this episode, tells us that the call to end SARS has been going on for about five years.
Elsewhere in the episode we discuss the confirmation hearings for Supreme Court nominee Amy Coney Barrett, the unimpeachable legacy of Lebron James after the Lakers championship run in the NBA bubble, the return of Supermarket Sweep, and much more.
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It’s mask-on mask-off at the White House. The news surrounding COVID-19 in the White House shows no signs of slowing down. On this week’s episode of “And THAT’S That,” we discuss the latest updates on the coronavirus in chief spreading germs in the Oval Office and the historic vice presidential debate featuring Sen. Kamala Harris who let everyone know she’s not here for the lectures from that “fly” guy VP Mike Pence.
But with no love lost on politics, the president is not the only one trying to get chose in 2020.
Cuffing season is early this year as folks are trying to find pandemic partners to make it through the second wave together. We welcomed this week’s guest, career and dating coach Charreah K. Jackson. Jackson is the bestselling author of “Boss Bride: The Powerful Woman’s Playbook for Love & Success,” and talks to us about what might go down in the DMs when looking for a cuffing season boo, safe sex in a pandemic and how social distancing mixes with social networking for likes and love.
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For our first episode, we knew we had to welcome a guest who could match our steez ― someone proudly, loudly and unquestionably Black, unbothered by his haters and with an uncommon amount of energy. We wanted someone whose spirit would help set the tone for the types of wide-ranging convos we’ll be having with y’all each week. Enter Jamaal Bowman from New York, a rising star of the Democratic Party, a former school principal and ― we should say ― a certified rhyme-spitter.
Bowman, a first-time candidate for Congress and a progressive, rode a wide wave of multiracial support to defeat his opponent, 16-term incumbent Eliot Engel, to become the Democrats’ pick to represent New York’s 16th District. And he did it all in true style and slight flex. Bowman’s got that Baldwin-like fire inside him, and he chops it up with us to break down power, the pandemic and Raekwon’s classic album “Only Built 4 Cuban Linx.”
We also discuss the latest updates in the Breonna Taylor case, the presidential debate shitshow, Wendy verzuz Nene and how Hippolyta teaches us all how to truly support Black women. Check it!
“And THAT’S That!” is produced and edited by Izzy Best, Nick Offenberg, Sara Patterson, and Becca DeGregorio. If you have a question or a comment about the show or a suggestion for an episode, email us at andthatsthat@huffpost.com
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Introducing And THAT'S That! A new HuffPost podcast covering the latest in Black news and culture. Every week you'll hear a mix of roundtable conversations and guest interviews that bring nuance to pressing issues facing the Black community today. Step into our virtual living room and join us as we process the heaviness and balance it with joy. New episodes drop weekly on Fridays this fall.
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