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    Christianity

    And Also With You

    A podcast on reclaiming an ancient Christian faith for modern Christian life, with the Reverend Lizzie McManus-Dail and the Reverend Laura Di Panfilo.

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    Call 1-800-AAWY! May 26, 2025
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    We answer a few of your questions on the season finale of season two and look ahead to what will be coming up in season three! Thank you for all your support!!!

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    RevLizzie.com

    https://www.instagram.com/rev.lizzie/

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    More about Mother Laura:

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    https://www.tiktok.com/@mother_peaches

    St. Paul's Episcopal Church in Pittsburgh, PA

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    Theme music:

    "On Our Own Again" by Blue Dot Sessions (www.sessions.blue).

    New episodes drop Mondays at 7am EST/6am CST!


    What is the Book of Revelation? And what do we do with the...apocalypse? May 19, 2025
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    The mark of the beast. Signs and portents. A whole dang book about the "apocalypse" at the end of the Bible.

    What on EARTH do we do with Revelation? Is it a literal guidebook for surviving hell? Is it a wacky political cartoon we've overblown? Or is it ... something more? (Spoiler alert: it is much more. It is a book about the end of the world - but that's not what you might think it means). Join us with the fantastic Rev. Brian Fox, longtime friend of both of us and friend of the pod, as we do a deep and wide dive into this book and what good news it has for us as we face our own end times fears.

    MORE ABOUT OUR GUEST:

    Brian Fox is an Episcopal priest and the rector of St. Paul’s Episcopal Church & Montessori School in San Antonio, TX. A graduate of Sarah Lawrence College, Princeton Theological Seminary, and the Seminary of the Southwest, Brian was real-life friends with Laura and Lizzie (and attended both of their ordinations!) before they became internet friends. You can follow his church on Instagram (@stpauls-satx), and read some of his writing at Earth & Altar (https://earthandaltarmag.com/posts?author=5e703169cdb56336186f3add)

    If you want to read more about Revelation, Brian commends

    • Revelation and the End of All Things by Craig Koester and
    • Picturing the Apocalypse by Natasha and Anthony O’Hear.

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    OUR HOTLINE - call in your questions! - 262.229.9763

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    More about Father Lizzie:

    BOOK: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/762683/god-didnt-make-us-to-hate-us-by-rev-lizzie-mcmanus-dail/

    RevLizzie.com

    https://www.instagram.com/rev.lizzie/

    https://www.tiktok.com/@rev.lizzie

    Jubilee Episcopal Church in Austin, TX - JubileeATX.org

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    More about Mother Laura:

    https://www.instagram.com/laura.peaches/

    https://www.tiktok.com/@mother_peaches

    St. Paul's Episcopal Church in Pittsburgh, PA

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    Theme music:

    "On Our Own Again" by Blue Dot Sessions (www.sessions.blue).

    New episodes drop Mondays at 7am EST/6am CST!


    What is the Religious Landscape in 2025? May 12, 2025
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    We as Christians practice an ancient religion that is in many ways the same as it ever was, and in other significant ways has been shifting and evolving consistently since its beginning 2000 years ago. Culture shifts, society shifts, our political and economic structures and realities shift and our practices of religion shift with it. The playing field on which we practice our Christian faith and do the work of ministry is changing so we invited Chip Rotolo, a Research Associate on Pew Research Center’s Religion and Public Life team to help us think and wonder through our shifting religious landscape and what it means for us

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    There's all kinds of perks including un-aired live episodes, Zoom retreats, and mailbag episodes for our Patreons!

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    More about Father Lizzie:

    BOOK: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/762683/god-didnt-make-us-to-hate-us-by-rev-lizzie-mcmanus-dail/

    RevLizzie.com

    https://www.instagram.com/rev.lizzie/

    https://www.tiktok.com/@rev.lizzie

    Jubilee Episcopal Church in Austin, TX - JubileeATX.org

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    More about Mother Laura:

    https://www.instagram.com/laura.peaches/

    https://www.tiktok.com/@mother_peaches

    St. Paul's Episcopal Church in Pittsburgh, PA

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    Theme music:

    "On Our Own Again" by Blue Dot Sessions (www.sessions.blue).

    New episodes drop Mondays at 7am EST/6am CST!


    How do we have joy even when it's difficult? May 05, 2025
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    The #1 question Lizzie has been asked on her book tour is some version of "how can I have joy when I feel so scared/sad/mad?" This is such a tender question, and one we - your three hosts today - have all wrestled with very, very deeply. As priests, but also just as people (who, to be clear, don't have this all hacked) we have not always been happy. Or grateful. But we have found ways to cultivate and nourish a spiritual discipline of joy, so we want to share the best practices we have found for nurturing joy in the face of everything that wants to steal our joy from us.

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    OUR HOTLINE - call in your questions! - 262.229.9763

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    Our Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/andalsowithyoupodcast/

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    MERCH: https://www.bonfire.com/store/and-also-with-you-the-podcast/

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    More about Father Lizzie:

    BOOK: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/762683/god-didnt-make-us-to-hate-us-by-rev-lizzie-mcmanus-dail/

    RevLizzie.com

    https://www.instagram.com/rev.lizzie/

    https://www.tiktok.com/@rev.lizzie

    Jubilee Episcopal Church in Austin, TX - JubileeATX.org

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    More about Mother Laura:

    https://www.instagram.com/laura.peaches/

    https://www.tiktok.com/@mother_peaches

    St. Paul's Episcopal Church in Pittsburgh, PA

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    Theme music:

    "On Our Own Again" by Blue Dot Sessions (www.sessions.blue).

    New episodes drop Mondays at 7am EST/6am CST!


    Who were the women at the tomb? Apr 28, 2025
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    The Gospel of Luke says: "Now it was Mary Magdalene, Joanna, Mary the mother of James, and the other women with them who told this to the apostles." John claims it was Mary Magdalene. Mark and Matthew also have a list of women ... so whatever Gospel you're reading, the Good News of Christ's resurrection was first witnessed and preached by WOMEN. So who were these ladies?? And why is their story so often neglected?

    We cover a lot of territory here and would love to know what kind of follow up episodes you want to hear from all the subjects we touched on! Call our hotline or leave a comment on instagram to let us know what you think, and be sure to rate and review the pod :)

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    FOR FURTHER READING:

    **MOST GROUNDBREAKING: "Was Martha of Bethany Added to the Fourth Gospel in the Second Century?" Harvard Theological Review , Volume 110 , Issue 3 , July 2017 , pp. 360 - 392 DOI: https://doi.org/10.1017/S0017816016000213 https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/harvard-theological-review/article/abs/was-martha-of-bethany-added-to-the-fourth-gospel-in-the-second-century/6CBD2C9576A583DD02987FE836C427B7

    "The Meaning of “Magdalene”: A Review of Literary Evidence Elizabeth Schrader; Joan E. Taylor Journal of Biblical Literature (2021) 140 (4): 751–773. https://doi.org/10.15699/jbl.1404.2021.6

    **MOST ACCESSIBLE: Tell Her Story: How Women Led, Taught, and Ministered in the Early Church by Nijay K. Gupta

    The Gospel of Luke, New Cambridge Bible Commentary, by Amy-Jill Levine & Ben Witherington III

    **BEST OVERVIEW OF THE NAG HAMMADI TEXTS AND THE GOSPEL OF MARY MAGDALENE: https://breaking-down-patriarchy.captivate.fm/episode/the-gospel-of-mary-magdalene

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    SUPPORT US ON PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/AndAlsoWithYouPodcast

    There's all kinds of perks including un-aired live episodes, Zoom retreats, and mailbag episodes for our Patreons!

    OUR HOTLINE - call in your questions! - 262.229.9763

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    BOOK: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/762683/god-didnt-make-us-to-hate-us-by-rev-lizzie-mcmanus-dail/

    RevLizzie.com

    https://www.instagram.com/rev.lizzie/

    https://www.tiktok.com/@rev.lizzie

    Jubilee Episcopal Church in Austin, TX - JubileeATX.org

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    More about Mother Laura:

    https://www.instagram.com/laura.peaches/

    https://www.tiktok.com/@mother_peaches

    St. Paul's Episcopal Church in Pittsburgh, PA

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    Theme music:

    "On Our Own Again" by Blue Dot Sessions (www.sessions.blue).

    New episodes drop Mondays at 7am EST/6am CST!


    What is a feast? Apr 21, 2025
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    We talk a lot about FEASTING in the Church, and specifically, that the season of Easter is a feast (as opposed to a fast). But what does that mean, exactly? Are we talking about real food or spiritual food or ... both?? Join us in Eastertide as we spend a little time with this question. Or join us anytime, because as we explore in this episode, it's always a feast of the resurrection in Church!

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    SUPPORT US ON PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/AndAlsoWithYouPodcast

    There's all kinds of perks including un-aired live episodes, Zoom retreats, and mailbag episodes for our Patreons!

    OUR HOTLINE - call in your questions! - 262.229.9763

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    BOOK: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/762683/god-didnt-make-us-to-hate-us-by-rev-lizzie-mcmanus-dail/

    RevLizzie.com

    https://www.instagram.com/rev.lizzie/

    https://www.tiktok.com/@rev.lizzie

    Jubilee Episcopal Church in Austin, TX - JubileeATX.org

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    More about Mother Laura:

    https://www.instagram.com/laura.peaches/

    https://www.tiktok.com/@mother_peaches

    St. Paul's Episcopal Church in Pittsburgh, PA

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    Theme music:

    "On Our Own Again" by Blue Dot Sessions (www.sessions.blue).

    New episodes drop Mondays at 7am EST/6am CST!


    Re-run: How Do We Talk About Jesus on the Cross with Kids?! Apr 14, 2025
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    The crucifixion was a grisly way for Jesus to die, and yet, his death is an enormous part of our faith. How do we talk about this with kids? Is it inherently shoving something down their throats? Will it traumatize them? What about kids who have been seriously traumatized already? How do we talk about death, torture, and grief with littles in such a way that teaches them the reality of the world, and the love of God, without shaming them or making them feel bad??

    With the wonderful Rev. Emily Garcia of "Good and Joyful Thing" we explore this question!

    We decided Holy Week was the perfect time to re-run one of our most popular, and most requested episodes EVER. So if you've been around for a while, this one is worth a revisit, and if you're new here, we can't wait to tackle this enormous question with you.

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    There's all kinds of perks including un-aired live episodes, Zoom retreats, and mailbag episodes for our Patreons!

    OUR HOTLINE - call in your questions! - 262.229.9763

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    Our Website: https://andalsowithyoupod.com

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    More about Father Lizzie:

    BOOK: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/762683/god-didnt-make-us-to-hate-us-by-rev-lizzie-mcmanus-dail/

    RevLizzie.com

    https://www.instagram.com/rev.lizzie/

    https://www.tiktok.com/@rev.lizzie

    Jubilee Episcopal Church in Austin, TX - JubileeATX.org

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    More about Mother Laura:

    https://www.instagram.com/laura.peaches/

    https://www.tiktok.com/@mother_peaches

    St. Paul's Episcopal Church in Pittsburgh, PA

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    Theme music:

    "On Our Own Again" by Blue Dot Sessions (www.sessions.blue).

    New episodes drop Mondays at 7am EST/6am CST!


    Wait, the rapture isn't real? (So what do we believe about the "end times"??) Apr 07, 2025
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    Wait ... did you know "the rapture" is something that this dude named John Nelson Darby came up with in the 1800s after he fell off of his horse? And then it was popularized in the aftermath of WWI because of the study notes in the Schofield Bible? Yeah.

    "The rapture" and pre-millennial dispensationalism (the fancy term for it) is not traditional, ancient, or even Biblical theological thinking. Christians shouldn't fear the end times nor dread our loved ones being swept away from us while we await trials and tribulations here with Nicholas Cage. Rev. Lizzie's husband, Rev. Jonathan McManus-Dail, joins the crew as he is a literal rapture-unraveling expert. We'll debunk this theory and explore the texts used to support it to find a more liberated view of the end of days.

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    There's all kinds of perks including un-aired live episodes, Zoom retreats, and mailbag episodes for our Patreons!

    OUR HOTLINE - call in your questions! - 262.229.9763

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    More about Father Lizzie:

    BOOK: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/762683/god-didnt-make-us-to-hate-us-by-rev-lizzie-mcmanus-dail/

    RevLizzie.com

    https://www.instagram.com/rev.lizzie/

    https://www.tiktok.com/@rev.lizzie

    Jubilee Episcopal Church in Austin, TX - JubileeATX.org

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    More about Mother Laura:

    https://www.instagram.com/laura.peaches/

    https://www.tiktok.com/@mother_peaches

    St. Paul's Episcopal Church in Pittsburgh, PA

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    Theme music:

    "On Our Own Again" by Blue Dot Sessions (www.sessions.blue).

    New episodes drop Mondays at 7am EST/6am CST!


    And Also With You: Live! Mar 31, 2025
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    Thanks to Renegade Photos for the picture! (https://renegadephoto.co)

    Like what you hear? We are an entirely crowd-sourced, you-funded project.

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    Our Website: https://andalsowithyoupod.com

    Our Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/andalsowithyoupodcast/

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    MERCH: https://www.bonfire.com/store/and-also-with-you-the-podcast/

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    More about Father Lizzie:

    BOOK: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/762683/god-didnt-make-us-to-hate-us-by-rev-lizzie-mcmanus-dail/

    https://www.instagram.com/rev.lizzie/

    https://www.tiktok.com/@rev.lizzie

    Jubilee Episcopal Church in Austin, TX - JubileeATX.org

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    More about Mother Laura:

    https://www.instagram.com/laura.peaches/

    https://www.tiktok.com/@mother_peaches

    St. Paul's Episcopal Church in Pittsburgh, PA

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    Theme music:

    "On Our Own Again" by Blue Dot Sessions (www.sessions.blue).

    New episodes drop Mondays at 7am EST/6am CST!


    What is Mercy? Mar 24, 2025
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    Recently, national news was made by an Episcopalian asking for mercy. Many of us were deeply moved by her words and yet, many people were enraged by them. This dissonance suggests that there are different understandings of mercy out there, especially among Christians. How do we begin to understand mercy in light of our faith? What does it mean to show mercy? What does God have to say about this? We are joined by Dr. Stephanie Mota Thurston to explore this question this week!

    Like what you hear? We are an entirely crowd-sourced, you-funded project.

    SUPPORT US ON PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/AndAlsoWithYouPodcast

    There's all kinds of perks including un-aired live episodes, Zoom retreats, and mailbag episodes for our Patreons!

    Our Website: https://andalsowithyoupod.com

    Our Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/andalsowithyoupodcast/

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    MERCH: https://www.bonfire.com/store/and-also-with-you-the-podcast/

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    More about Father Lizzie:

    BOOK: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/762683/god-didnt-make-us-to-hate-us-by-rev-lizzie-mcmanus-dail/

    https://www.instagram.com/rev.lizzie/

    https://www.tiktok.com/@rev.lizzie

    Jubilee Episcopal Church in Austin, TX - JubileeATX.org

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    More about Mother Laura:

    https://www.instagram.com/laura.peaches/

    https://www.tiktok.com/@mother_peaches

    St. Paul's Episcopal Church in Pittsburgh, PA

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    Theme music:

    "On Our Own Again" by Blue Dot Sessions (www.sessions.blue).

    New episodes drop Mondays at 7am EST/6am CST!


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