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    American Thought Leaders

    At a time when our nation is portrayed as increasingly polarized, media often ignore viewpoints and stories that are worthy of attention. American Thought Leaders, hosted by The Epoch Times Senior Editor Jan Jekielek, features in-depth discussions with some of America’s most influential thought leaders on pertinent issues facing our nation today.

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    Latest Episodes:
    Charles Murray: I Thought Religion Was Irrelevant to Me. I Was Wrong. Oct 25, 2025
    Show notes

    Political scientist Charles Murray has written many well-known books over the course of his lifetime.

    Many of his works—including “Losing Ground,” “The Bell Curve,” and “Coming Apart”—have deeply influenced the intellectual discourse and zeitgeist of our times and provoked heated debate about the roots of major social problems in America.

    His latest book covers a topic that he has never covered deeply before: religion.

    Murray writes in the foreword of his book “Taking Religion Seriously,” “Millions are like me when it comes to religion: well-educated and successful people for whom religion has been irrelevant. We grew up in secular households or drifted away from the faiths in which we were raised and never looked back. For them, I think I have a story worth telling.”

    In our conversation, he recounts how he slowly came to question his assumption that there was nothing in religion for him.

    He began to grapple with questions such as: How did life come to be? Why is there something rather than nothing? What happens to purely secular societies? What happens to art that no longer acknowledges beauty, truth, and the good?

    He said: “I finished the book by comparing myself to a kid whose nose is pressed against the glass watching a party that’s going on inside that he can’t join. I have had the good fortune to meet a number of people who have had a very full, rich spiritual experience. ... I look at the kind of people they are, and I say to myself: I want more of that.”

    Views expressed in this video are opinions of the host and the guest, and do not necessarily reflect the views of The Epoch Times.


    CCP Power Plays in Tariff Talks Explained | John Moolenaar, Chairman of the House CCP Committee Oct 23, 2025
    Show notes

    Rep. John Moolenaar (R-Mich.) has been spearheading efforts in Congress to combat the threat posed by the Chinese regime to American interests—from economic warfare to espionage and infiltration—as chairman of the House Select Committee on the Chinese Communist Party.

    “With rare earths, China is basically firing a loaded gun ... on our economy,” he says.

    He’s pushing a bill that would phase in a 100 percent tariff on all strategic goods from China. The tariff would not just penalize China but also incentivize “other countries, as well as the United States, to invest in this almost as if it’s a Defense Production Act activity.”

    Beyond rare earth minerals, what leverage does the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) have exactly in trade talks with the United States? What will the CCP’s strategy be? How should President Donald Trump respond to the CCP’s coercive tactics and its recent attempts to gain additional leverage?

    And what can America do to extricate itself from its dependence on China for some of its most critical manufacturing technologies?

    Moolenaar points out that the CCP is using its leverage not only over trade but also over Chinese nationals studying or working in America via its extensive United Front operations.

    “Under their recent national security laws, any Chinese national who doesn’t carry out the will of the Chinese Communist Party, no matter where they are in the world, on U.S. soil or somewhere else in the world, [is] in violation of national security laws,” Moolenaar says.

    On the other hand, is the position of the CCP really secure? And what about Chinese leader Xi Jinping’s position in particular? What signs of dissatisfaction and unrest are there among the Chinese population?

    Views expressed in this video are opinions of the host and the guest, and do not necessarily reflect the views of The Epoch Times.


    Against the Grain: The NBA Player Who Refused to Kneel or Get the Shot | Jonathan Isaac Oct 21, 2025
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    NBA player Jonathan Isaac is known not just for his talent on the court, but for his convictions and outspoken faith. He’s the author of the 2022 best-selling memoir “Why I Stand.”

    As a youth, he struggled with anxiety—but a chance encounter in an elevator with the man who would later become his pastor changed the course of his life.

    Faith helped him triumph over his battle with anxiety, but it also later put him at the center of a national debate. After George Floyd’s death, at the height of the Black Lives Matter movement, most NBA players chose to kneel during the national anthem. But Isaac chose to stand. Later, his decision to decline the COVID-19 vaccines also drew intense media scrutiny.

    In this episode, he shares his story, his convictions, his choices and why he made them, and what it means to believe in something bigger than yourself.

    Now, through his UNITUS shoe line, Isaac shares Bible verses and a message of hope.

    Views expressed in this video are opinions of the host and the guest, and do not necessarily reflect the views of The Epoch Times.


    The CCP’s Gloves Are Off in Trade War—What’s Next? | Lee Smith Oct 18, 2025
    Show notes

    The Chinese Communist Party (CCP) recently imposed unprecedented export controls on rare earths, escalating the U.S.–China trade war.

    How is it that the Chinese regime managed to gain control of many of the most essential supply chains, from critical minerals to pharmaceuticals? How should the Trump administration approach this threat to national security?

    In this episode, we sit down with Lee Smith, author of “The Plot Against the President,” and the soon-to-be-released book, “The China Matrix: The Epic Story of How Donald Trump Shattered a Deadly Pact.”

    “It was simply American corruption that has allowed all of this to happen. And that’s certainly the point that [U.S. President] Donald Trump makes in the book,” Smith says.

    What is Trump’s strategy when it comes to China? How does he actually view Chinese leader Xi Jinping?

    Views expressed in this video are opinions of the host and the guest, and do not necessarily reflect the views of The Epoch Times.

    Editor’s Note: Lee Smith previously hosted the EpochTV program “Words That Matter.”


    Andy Ngo: I Was Nearly Killed by Antifa. This is What I Learned. Oct 16, 2025
    Show notes

    Few people understand the far-left extremist group Antifa as well as investigative journalist Andy Ngo, author of “Unmasked: Inside Antifa’s Radical Plan to Destroy Democracy.”

    He has been beaten, attacked, and nearly killed by Antifa for his undercover reporting of the group’s operations.

    In an executive order signed on Sept. 22, President Donald Trump designated the group a domestic terrorist organization. On Oct. 8, the president hosted a roundtable focused on Antifa and invited Ngo and other journalists to participate.

    In this episode, Ngo recounts his harrowing personal experiences.

    What will it take to actually dismantle Antifa? How is Antifa organized and funded? And what does Ngo make of the broader trends of political violence, from the assassination of Charlie Kirk to the murder of the United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson?

    Views expressed in this video are opinions of the host and the guest, and do not necessarily reflect the views of The Epoch Times.



    How Wikipedia Turned Into an ‘Engine of Defamation’ | Co-Founder Larry Sanger Oct 14, 2025
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    Larry Sanger is the co-founder of Wikipedia and coined the name “Wikipedia' in 2001. He established many of Wikipedia’s founding policies, including the original neutrality guidelines, before he left in 2002.

    Since then, he has become a vocal critic of Wikipedia’s growing ideological bias, particularly on politically charged issues.

    Sanger says certain outlets are favored as sources while others are blacklisted, creating systemic distortion and exclusion of dissenting views.

    Most of Wikipedia’s top editors are anonymous, which means that people have no legal recourse for lies or inaccuracies about them that may be published on Wikipedia’s pages.

    In this episode, Sanger breaks down what went wrong with Wikipedia and how it can be reformed.

    Sanger has put forward nine theses for reform, including enabling competing articles, restoring original neutrality policies, convening an editorial assembly, and creating transparent rating systems for entries.

    But what is the likelihood it will happen? Can—and should—Congress do something about it? And could Elon Musk’s Grokipedia offer a more balanced alternative?

    Editor’s Note: The Wikimedia Foundation did not immediately respond to our request for comment.

    Views expressed in this video are opinions of the host and the guest, and do not necessarily reflect the views of The Epoch Times.


    How Tariffs Once Paid America’s Bills–And Why They Could Again | John Gardner Oct 11, 2025
    Show notes

    While we often hear that free trade means cheaper goods, is it really that simple? What is the true cost of that? How can we measure the long-term decline of America’s manufacturing and industrial base and its impact on America?

    John Gardner is the author of “Manufacture Local: How to Make America the Manufacturing Superpower of the World.”

    “America has a lot of questions to ask itself about the morality of what we’ve done to our own citizens, but also the morality of chasing sweatshop labor in other nations,” he says.

    Why is having a robust industrial base so important? And if so, how do we turn things around? Are tariffs really the answer? Is an External Revenue Service a good idea?

    Views expressed in this video are opinions of the host and the guest, and do not necessarily reflect the views of The Epoch Times.



    What to Know About Raw Milk, Seed Oils, and the Food Pyramid | Sally Fallon Morell Oct 09, 2025
    Show notes

    “What we’ve got today is too much money riding on seed oils. They can’t produce addictive, empty, junk food, processed food without the seed oils,” says Sally Fallon Morell.

    For decades, Morell has led a grassroots movement to see healthy foods in every household in America.

    “You need to get in the kitchen. [It] doesn’t mean you have to spend hours in the kitchen, but you need to get in the kitchen and learn how to produce healthy food for your family,” she says.

    In this episode, she explains what’s wrong with our modern diet and calls for a return to traditional, nutrient-dense foods for better health.

    “Animal fats are good for you. They’re not going to give you heart disease. Quite the opposite—they’re very stable, and they support good health. They support heart health,” Morell says. “Our mission is to bring people back to these foods, to get people to eat butter again, whole milk. By the way, egg yolks are a sacred food as well, very rich in nutrients and fat-soluble activators.”

    Morell is the President of the Weston A. Price Foundation and author of, “Nourishing Traditions: The Cookbook that Challenges Politically Correct Nutrition and the Diet Dictocrats.”

    Views expressed in this video are opinions of the host and the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of The Epoch Times.


    From Vegan Star Chef to Regenerative Rancher | Mollie Engelhart Oct 08, 2025
    Show notes

    Mollie Engelhart was once a celebrated vegan farm-to-table restaurateur in California. When she decided to put meat back on the menu, a targeted campaign forced her to close her business.

    She ultimately decided to make the painful decision to uproot her entire life, sell her farm, and rebuild from scratch in Texas.

    She’s the author of the new book “Debunked by Nature: How a Vegan-Chef-Turned-Regenerative-Farmer Discovered that Mother Nature Is a Conservative.”

    “We’re treating the soil and our bodies like we can outsmart them, but we’re getting sicker,” she says.

    Once an ardent believer in the vegan movement, Engelhart now questions much of what she once believed.

    “Nature taught me my ideas were ridiculous. ... My cow isn’t the enemy,” she says.

    Real environmentalism is “not to avoid nature, but to interact with her; not to try to out-science her, but to remember her wisdom,” she says.

    How does the health of our soil shape the health of our bodies? In this episode, we dive into the roots of our health crisis and why real change often starts small, with curious consumers and courageous farmers.

    Views expressed in this video are opinions of the host and the guest, and do not necessarily reflect the views of The Epoch Times.



    Secretary Doug Burgum: Inside Our Strategy to End China’s Stranglehold on Critical Minerals Oct 07, 2025
    Show notes

    “President Trump talks about ‘drill, baby, drill.’ We’ve also got to mine, baby, mine. We’ve got to get back into this business,” says U.S. Secretary of the Interior Doug Burgum.

    China has a stranglehold on rare earths and critical minerals, controlling at least 85 percent of the refining of the 20 most important rare earth minerals, Burgum says.

    As secretary of the interior, Burgum oversees nearly half a billion acres of federal land and plays a key role in the Trump administration’s energy dominance agenda.

    In this episode, we dive into what the Trump administration is doing to end America’s rare earth minerals dependency on China, accelerate energy production, and win the AI arms race against China, which will require major increases in energy supply.

    We also discuss the government shutdown and how it impacts the Department of the Interior and the American people.

    Views expressed in this video are opinions of the host and the guest, and do not necessarily reflect the views of The Epoch Times.


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