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    Adult Conversation Podcast

    Based off her popular and darkly humorous social media pages, blog, and novel of the same name, author Brandy Ferner takes her love of adult conversation to the air as she spears the injustices of modern motherhood and womanhood while continuing her tradition of saying things out loud that others won’t. As a lover of truth and all things dark comedy, she and special guests partake in real talk about any and everything – marriage post kids, the never-ending micromanagement of kid screen time, friendship, sex, chronic-illness, Snoop Dogg, pop culture, mental health, the revolt of the aging uterus, writing, the joke that is perimenopause, reality TV, and more. This is not a podcast with annoying life or parenting advice that has it all figured out. Instead, Adult Conversation aims to break down the façade of perfect parenting and break down the systems we’re stuck in with its balanced mix of truth, wit, compassion, and validation – and can be considered a form of self-care, even if you’re listening in the God-forsaken school pick-up line.

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    The Revolution Begins at Home with Beth Berry Jan 13, 2020
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    Buckle up for a passionate discussion with Beth Berry from "Revolution From Home," as we do a deep dive into what needs to be burned to the ground in modern motherhood. I absolutely love Beth's honest and progressive take on how us moms are being brainwashed (and how we're complicit… shit), the consequences of continually saying yes when our body says no, and why our isolation is so problematic for us as women, but not for the powers that be. You'll also find out if she agrees with me that being solicited to volunteer at your child's school is basically a form of mother exploitation, and that "toxic volunteering" is a thing. So join us and learn why the opening scene from Beauty and the Beast where Belle sings through the town is the key to happiness, and also why the motherhood revolution begins in your own home.


    Suddenly a Stay-at-Home Dad with Jim Dec 30, 2019
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    In this validating, relatable, and just funny episode, my family friend and dad of two, Jim Bialick, stops by to give us an inside look at his quick education in stay-at-home parenthood. Jim and his wife recently swapped roles, with Jim trading in his high-level job in D.C. for cleaning up vomit and shuttling his girls to ballet. One day, I got a private message from Jim that said, "I have a new perspective as now the stay at home parent. Nobody needs this many snacks and kids are more full of shit than politicians." I loved hearing his take on the parts of parenthood he hadn't seen before because he was the working parent. Selfishly, it was super satisfying to hear this strong, professional dad talk about how in just a short time, he'd been brought to his knees by two small people. I asked him if he would come bare his soul on my podcast so that all of us stay-at-home parents could feel seen, and thankfully he said yes! So join us for today's episode where Jim shares about being iced out by ballet moms, the loneliness of no adult contact, his existential crisis in the minivan, and much more about what happens when your clients go from being Presidents to preschoolers.


    Change Your Rage with Hunter Clarke-Fields Dec 16, 2019
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    In this episode, we discuss a topic that is so necessary to our mental health as mothers: what to do with all that pesky rage? Author, Hunter Clarke-Fields, explains what is happening to us when we lose it, and how we can be less reactive. She talks about the importance of assessing our own baggage from how we were parented, in combination with improving our communication skills, and how that can rewire our brain – and its response to anger. She also opens up about inheriting her father's temper and how it directly affected her mothering and her relationship with him. And then we cover how the incessant demands of motherhood effect our ability to think rationally (i.e. we can't when we're having a stress response), which plays an interesting part in homework battles. We also laugh about a too-real quote from a mother in the 1800's, the seemingly flawed design of humans, and Hunter's crazy ass paintings! She also gives us her take on spankings.


    Grief and Motherhood with Caity Dec 02, 2019
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    In this "very special" episode, we talk about grief and motherhood with someone who has a pretty heavy story about losing her own parents. With lots of dark humor and openness, Caity speaks out about what it's like to parent without your own parents in hopes that others dealing with loss amid motherhood will know that they're not alone in the bittersweet messiness that is grief. Just so you know, we laugh quite a lot and we also discuss other important topics such as Chick-fil-A vs. Raising Cane's. Caity also talks about agreements she unknowingly made following the death of her mother, how grief has affected her physically, and the destructive way she was allowing herself to have emotions (which I'd never even considered). We explore what it's like to make (or not make) mom friends while carrying such a huge emotional burden, and feeling like you're too much for people. Join us as we put some pieces together, and shine some much-needed light on a topic that's not often talked about.


    Tis the Season for Boundaries with Kathie Neff Nov 18, 2019
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    The Ghost of Christmas Future, a.k.a. Kathie, stops by and gives us her mother-of-seven-grown-kids perspective about intricate family dynamics at holidays, boundaries she's set, and the cost of choosing yourself and your family over what you've always done. You know, stuff that no one really talks about publicly. She and I quickly go from deep and serious, to laughing and heckling each other, to disagreeing, to both being moved by Kathie's exceptional vulnerability. Sorry for the whiplash, but it's worth it. Kathie also makes me lose my shit with her take on "meaningful" gifts, and then we both confess the same holiday fail and how we handled it differently, and she shares the holiday tradition that her adult kids missed when she stopped doing it.


    Do Less, Enjoy More Holidays with Rebecca Mezzino Nov 04, 2019
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    Podcast favorite and professional declutterer, Rebecca Mezzino, comes to discuss how to give yourself the gift of sanity this holiday season. I admit my biggest holiday struggles and we come up with lots of tactics to avoid the exhaustion and frustration so a joyful holiday can be had by all, namely us moms who are worn down from all the magic-making. Rebecca and I sort out how to specifically delegate tasks to your spouse (and she has a whole system for this), how to limit the work that doesn't bring you joy, how to change your gift-buying habits, how to cut your wrapping in half, how to put your domineering family members to good use, and basically how to curate a holiday that doesn't leave you flattened. I also share my plan for a do-less holiday "experiment" that will be implemented this year, and Rebecca shows her extraness with a funny detail about how she keeps surprises hidden from her family. I'm giving you this episode early enough in the season so you have time to implement its takeaways, before you get stream-rolled.


    Screens Are Not Evil with Jordan Shapiro Oct 21, 2019
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    Today's guest is here to shake us out of the confusion around how to handle our kids' screen time. The podcast welcomes its first dad/man, Jordan Shapiro, who wrote a super helpful book about how to navigate this new era of relentless technology as a parent, The New Childhood: Raising Kids to Thrive in a Connected World. It's got facts, research, history, and other sober analysis, along with plenty of parental anecdotes that aren't fear-based, and dare I say are oddly comforting. In this episode, Jordan talks about the benefits (and also pitfalls) of screens in our kids' lives, and how us parents are doing a disservice to our children by vilifying it. You might actually feel like apologizing to your kids after you hear what he has to say about it. Ask me how I know. We also discuss theories behind and ways we can better guide this generation and their screen use, Jordan's own digital rules and boundaries for his kids, and the screen time change I made in our home that I thought would ruin our lives. So if you want to feel better about your kids playing video games, this episode is for you. I know the "wooden toys only" parents are freaking out right now.


    Mom Real Talk with Laura Mullane Oct 07, 2019
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    Join mother and author, Laura Mullane, as she unapologetically speaks her truth of "reluctant motherhood," and she and I talk about all sorts of deep mom topics. I talk about my biggest fear when becoming a mother, and Laura and I explain why motherhood sometimes feels like living with a gun to your head, and also what changes inside us as the toddlers grow into teenagers (it's actually positive). Laura tells us what it was like to write such a personal and taboo book – and what people's reactions have been, what she misses most about the younger ages, and how she feels when her daughter says she doesn't ever want to have kids. I share about when I feel most happy while mothering, what helped me decide if I should have a second baby or not (which still gets me emotional, shocker), and I lay out my theory about how different types of moms have different stages of intense struggle. I'm curious if you'll agree.


    Alcohol and Parenthood with Jennifer Sep 23, 2019
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    Join me and my wise and hilarious friend, Jennifer, for a conversation with lots of laughing, swearing, self-deprecation, and truly life-changing concepts, as we talk about alcohol and parenting, specifically her path as an alcoholic mother. Even if you don't personally have an issue with alcohol, nor does anyone in your inner circle, this episode has so many gems about parenting and making mistakes – basically, being a human. We talk about how our mothering instincts can and cannot thwart alcoholism, what was actually behind her addiction (hint: it wasn't actually the alcohol), the simplest question that turned her life around, and the hard-earned gifts that alcoholism gave her and her kids (yes, you heard that right, alcoholism can bestow gifts, if you don't let it kill you first). She also details some warning signs for alcoholism, and ways to tell if you or someone you love is more than just a causal drinker. She's maaaaaybe the most vulnerable guest I've had yet, and maybe the most inspirational without trying to be. If you are someone who drinks a little too much (or you're married to someone who does) and you're feeling like, "Yeah, I don't know if I can listen to this," because you're scared of what you might learn about yourself or your partner, PLEASE JUST LISTEN. You'll see why.


    My Lesbian Parenting Fantasies with Denise Sep 09, 2019
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    Today's episode is in response to my first two podcast episodes. A few of my lesbian and queer listeners were like, "What the shit is this hetero life and marriage you talk about??" Their shock and disdain made me want to know more about same-sex marriages, and how much of our hetero marriage and parenting issues are gender-based. Today's guest, a lesbian mom, so graciously lets me dig into her private life to seek the answers to my burning questions. It turns out that I had a lot of varying fantasies about what being in a relationship with another woman was really like. We talk about gender, sex, social conditioning, division of household labor, periods, working mom struggles, identity, and other relatable mom shit, including my really important opinion on pumpkin patches.


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