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Another World IS still Possible. The old system was never fit for purpose – and now it’s collapsing around us. So how do we co-create a Thrutopian future that we’d all be proud to leave as our legacy?

What stories can we weave of possibility? Of transformation? What happens if we commit to a world based on generative values: compassion, courage, integrity?

What happens if we let go of the race for meaningless money and commit instead to the things that really matter: clean air, clean water, clean soil – and clean, clear, courageous connections between all parts of ourselves, between ourselves and each other, between ourselves and the Web of Life – so that we can reclaim our birthright as self-conscious nodes in the web of life?

We can do this. Some of us already are. Every week on Accidental Gods we speak with the people who are living this world into being, courageous pathfinders who are exploring the emergent edge of inter-becoming.

As a species, we have all the answers, we just haven’t yet crafted all the new stories and woven them into a future that works. We have the choice now – we can choose to transform…or we can face the chaos of a failing system.

Our Choice. Our Chance. Our Future.

Accidental Gods is a podcast and membership program devoted to exploring the ways we can create a future that we would be proud to leave to the generations yet to come.

Find the membership and the podcast pages here: https://accidentalgods.life
Find Manda’s Thrutopian novel, Any Human Power here: https://mandascott.co.uk
Find Manda on BlueSky @mandascott.bsky.social
On LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/mandascottauthor/
On FaceBook https://www.facebook.com/MandaScottAuthor

Copyright: ©AccidentalGods 2020

Latest Episodes:

Kindness, tribalism, faith, hope: exploring Christianity in the climate crisis with David Blower Jan 27, 2021

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Kindness costs nothing and it enhances our lives and those around us. And yet our world is full of random acts of unkindness. How can we change this? How can we extend the boundaries of faith and spirituality to bring the best of ourselves to a world in crisis.

This week, podcaster, musician, writer, theologian – and deep spiritual activist – David Blower talks about Christianity and kindness and the climate crisis.

David Benjamin Blower is a radical Christian theologian, a musician, a writer, and a podcaster. He is co-host of NOMAD podcast which describes itself as 'Stumbling through the post-Christendom wilderness looking for signs of hope". His first book Kingdom vs Empire is 'an explosive manifesto for politicised faith in 21st Century Britain.'

In this deep dive into the nature of faith, we explore spirituality, belief, tribalism - and the narratives we spin ourselves of where we are and where we could be.

David's Website davidbenjaminblower.com

David's Music benjaminblower.bandcamp.com/music
Nomad podcast - Elizabeth Oldfield episode: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/nomad-podcast/id301419170?i=1000493995562
Nomad podcast - Elaine Heath episode: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/nomad-podcast/id301419170?i=1000422414384
Climate PodBoom - https://pdst.fm/e/media.transistor.fm/1f96c344/de91b51d.mp3

The Ocean is Alive: Ocean-shaman Glenn Edney speaks of the living waters of the Earth. Jan 20, 2021

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What if the Ocean were a living thing, in the way that the earth breathes as Gaia? The Maori say that if the Ocean is healthy, so, too, will the people be healthy. And we are not healthy - nor is the Ocean. But we are intimately linked and Glenn Edney, Ocean Deep Ecologist explains how - and what we can do to heal ourselves and the waters of the Earth.

Glenn Edney is a Deep Ecologist, an Ocean explorer, diver, sailor, an activist for the living Ocean - and a deeply thoughtful visionary, following in the footsteps of his hero, Jacques Cousteau.

He's the author of three books, the most recent, published in 2016, is 'The Ocean is Alive'. He wrote this as his way to help those of us more land bound to understand that, like Gaia, the Ocean is a living entity with its own hyper-complex physiology - that everything from the chemical composition of the water, through the lives of the plankton and microbiomes to the majesty - and super consciousness - of the great whales, is part of a single Being. The detail of how the Ocean lives and breathes is fascinating and glorious, but it's the stories of connection, heart-to-heart, with the living elements of the Ocean that stay with us long after we've put the book down.

In the podcast, Glenn shares his complete connection with the Ocean - and the ways we can - and must - open to this magnificent part of our planet.

“Mena kei te hauora te moana ka pera ano te hauora o te iwi”
If the ocean is healthy so too will the people be healthy - Maori saying

The Ocean is Alive: book link: https://blackwells.co.uk/bookshop/product/The-Ocean-Is-Alive-by-Glenn-Edney-author/9780473352608
High and Deep Sea Photos by Glenn: https://www.synchronicityearth.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Synchronicity-Earth-High-Deep-Seas-Insight.pdf

Trust The People: Creating a politics that works Jan 13, 2021

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How would our world feel if our local, regional and national politics really listened to all the people, really brought together diverse views, and knew how to listen deeply to whatever was said? How would we be if our politics brought out the best in all of us, and worked for the living planet? We talk to Trust The People, a new movement to bring this about - globally.

Trust The People is a movement of community builders open to everyone sharing deliberative democratic tools to support local communities dealing with global crises. In this episode, Mags Mulowska, an activist with TTP, explores how our current system is broken, and the ways we can change it so that everyone has choice and a voice, so that everyone's voice is heard and communities build around a sense of place and of purpose. She describes the courses run by TTP and some of the ways they have led to flourishing outcomes in diverse local communities. And we discuss the May local elections in the UK and how people can join a movement of independent candidates dedicated to bringing radical inclusivity, deep listening and trust to the local process.

Trust the People: https://www.trustthepeople.earth
Isabel Hardman "Why we Get the Wrong Politicians"

Four arrows flying: Alnoor Ladha, activist and visionary on changing the stories we tell ourselves. Jan 06, 2021

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What if we could see the nature of the stories that drive us, how would we be? Would we be able to change them? And what would we want in their place? This week, Alnoor Ladha, mystic, visionary, activist and regenerative farmer explores the four ways to change the world.

Alnoor Ladha's work focuses on the intersection of political organizing, systems thinking and narrative work. He was the co-founder and Executive Director of The Rules (TR), a global network of activists, organizers, designers, coders, researchers, writers and others focused on changing the rules that create inequality, poverty and climate change. TR started in 2012 as a time-bound project and an experiment in anarchist organizational design, exploring new ways of how to work, play and make trouble together.

Alnoor comes from a Sufi lineage and explores/writes about the intersection between politics and spirituality in troubled times. He is also a co-founder of Tierra Valiente, a post- capitalist community in northern Costa Rica.

In this week's podcast, we discuss his ideas of Capitalism, memes and mind viruses - notably the idea of the Wetiko - and what the antidotes might be. We explore the nature of subjective reality and the narratives that promote capitalism. We explore the need for mystical anarchism, the means by which we might transcend subject/object duality, cultivating relationality and cultivating a sense of connection to the web of life.

The Rules: https://therules.org/author/alnoor/

Tierra Valiente: https://www.braveearth.com

Seeing Wetiko: on capitalism, mind viruses and antidotes: https://www.kosmosjournal.org/article/seeing-wetiko-on-capitalism-mind-viruses-and-antidotes-for-a-world-in-transition/

What could possibly go right: https://www.resilience.org/stories/2020-10-20/what-could-possibly-go-right-episode-19-alnoor-ladha/

Building Soil: Healing the Earth: Feeding Humanity - Regenerative Farming with Navona Gallegos Dec 30, 2020

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What if we had a way to draw carbon out of the air, heal our ecosystems and feed the world? We do: It's called Regenerative Agriculture and the understanding of how we do this is key to a flourishing future. But we need to listen to the land first, as Navona Gallegos describes in this new Accidental Gods podcast.

Navona Gallegos is an ecologist and farmer working to transition desert back into grassland in the arid Southwest of Turtle Island. She works and educates on the intersection of clean water, biodiversity, carbon sequestration, and nutrition: soil. Navona's passion is decolonization and she sees building soil as the keystone that allows us to step into right relation with our surrounding ecologies, access more of our innate capacities, and create a culture that truly meets our needs. Her insight into the spiritual connection with the land is a breath of fresh air, giving us ways to connect that are healing for us as well as the earth.

Links:

Dr Elaine Ingham's Soil Food Web: https://www.soilfoodweb.com

All the Best of 2020: Books and Podcasts that will lift you into the new year - and beyond. Dec 23, 2020

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An end-of-year round up of the best fiction and non-fiction books - and podcasts - of 2020. All are my opinion and this is only a tiny selection of the really good stuff out there - but it's good. Enjoy!
We have to stop consuming stuff... but we never stop imbibing ideas. So here are some to choose from - all links to Blackwells. For obvious reasons.

Non-Fiction
'From what is to what if' by Rob Hopkins
The Trembling Warrior and others by Gill Coombs
'The Best of Times, the Worst of Times' by Paul Behrens
'How to Be More Pirate' by Alex Barker
'Doughnut Economics' by Kate Raworth (also Doughnut Economics Action Lab)
'Less is More' by Jason Hickel
'The Ocean is Alive' by Glenn Edney
'The Tao of Revolution' by Chris Taylor

Fiction:

'This is How You Lose The Time War' by Amal El-Mohtar and Max Gladstone
'The Border Keeper' by Kerstin Hall
'Slough House' by Mick Herron
'Agent Running in the Field' by John le Carré
'Attack Surface' by Cory Doctorow
'Call Down the Hawk' by Maggie Stiefvater
'The Timekeeper' by Tara Sim
'In Other Lands' by Sarah Rees Brennan
'The Ten Thousand Doors of January' by Alix E Harrow
'The Left Handed Booksellers of London' by Garth Nix.
'A Deadly Education' by Naomi Novak
'Fallible Justice' by Laura Laakso
'Poison in Paris' by Robert Wilton
'The Last Protector' by Andrew Taylor
'The Angel of the Crows' by Katherine Addison

Podcasts:

Upstream hosted by Della Duncan
The Hive hosted by Nathalie Nahai
The Sustainable Futures Report by Anthony Day
A New and Ancient Story by Charles Eisenstein
'Your Undivided Attention' by Tristan Harris
'Regenerative Agriculture Podcast' by John Kempf
Farm Gate hosted by Ffinlo Costain
'Equiosity' by Alex Kurland
'Horses For Future' by Alex Kurland
Drinking from the Toilet by Hannah Brannigan

Link to Dreaming the Year Awake

Birthday/Solstice Celebration: a new Anniversary tradition, with Della Duncan and Nathalie Nahai Dec 21, 2020

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It's our Birthday... and it's the December Solstice, the time of transition and potential transformation . In honour of which, we are crafting a new tradition: a PodBoom shared with Della Duncan of UPSTREAM podcast and Nathalie Nahai of THE HIVE.

So, it's our Birthday - and it's that time of year when every pundit endeavours to look back at the year just gone and ahead to the one that is coming. And we thought we'd like to establish a parallel tradition, where we bring together our favourite podcasting-friends and explore the ways we think. So we set up a structure that will be repeatable in future years... where we give each other gifts of a book, podcast or something else that has brought us real insight, and then we explore each other's existential questions. And we have fun. So that you can have fun too.

Della Duncan is a Renegade Economist who hosts the UPSTREAM podcast challenging traditional economic thinking and uplifting stories of sustainable, just, and equitable economic systems-change around the world. Della is also a Right Livelihood Coach, a Senior Fellow of Social and Economic Equity at the International Inequalities Institute in the London School of Economics, the Course Development Manager of Fritjof Capra’s Capra Course on the Systems View of Life, and an Alternative Economics Consultant.

Nathalie Nahai is host of THE HIVE podcast. Nathalie is an international speaker and author of the best-selling book, Webs of Influence: The Psychology of Online Persuasion, which has been translated into seven languages.

Her work explores the intersection between persuasive technology, ethics and the psychology of online behaviour, and clients include Google, Accenture, Unilever and Harvard Business Review, among others.

Nathalie gives keynotes, workshops and webinars on the psychological dynamics behind evolving consumer behaviours, teaching people how to ethically apply behavioural science principles to enhance their website, content marketing, product design and customer experience.

A member of the BIMA Human Insights Council, she also hosts The Hive Podcast, Seeking The Self and several Guardian podcasts, and contributes to national publications, television (BBC, Sky, CNN), and radio (BBC Radio 4) on the impact of technology in our lives.

From Nathalie:
Books

- Braiding Sweetgrass - Robin Wall Kimmerer
- Women Who Run with the Wolves - Clarissa Pinkola Estés
- Foxfire Wolfskin - Sharon Blackie
- The Abundant Earth - Eileen Crist
Podcast: Eco Civ Podcast

From Della:

Books

- The Dangerous Old Woman: Myths and Stories of the Wise Woman Archetype - Clarissa Pinkola Estés
- Building Bridges, Not Walking on Backs: A Feminist Economic Recovery Plan for COVID-19 - Hawaii State Commission on the Status of Women
- The Sickness is the System: When Capitalism Fails to Save Us from Pandemics or Itself - Richard Wolff

Podcast: Upstream Conversations that I mentioned

From Manda:

Books

- English Pastoral - James Rebanks
- Less is More - Jason Hickel
- Slow Horses - Mick Herron

Living to Learn: transforming education with Rachel Musson of ThoughtBox Dec 16, 2020

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How can we make learning a genuinely transformational experience? One that's fun, and inspiring and that teaches us HOW to think, not WHAT to think? Rachel Musson had given her life to asking this question and ThoughtBox is her answer.

Suppose we all learned three things at school: empathy, critical thinking and systems thinking... imagine how different the world would be. Suppose we learned how to think clearly, how to communicate, how to understand our own feelings and express them without feeling the need to trash other people just because we were hurt, or angry.

Rachel Musson, founder and educational director of ThoughtBox, a radical, new co-learning programme speaks of her journey to create the system, and how it's working - in over a thousand schools and fifty four nations across the world. Rachel believes in co-learning: no more lesson plans, but a classroom of peers who take the core of a topic and build on it together. The result is a flexible learning environment where everyone thrives, where each individual is given space and encouragement to grow to be the best of themselves.
Imagine a world where this is possible. Where it is happening. Where it is growing...

About Rachel

Rachel Musson is a teacher, trainer, writer and thought-leader on

sustainable education and wellbeing in schools.

Working for 13 years as a Secondary English teacher, Rachel has taught

students and trained teachers in schools across the world including the UK,

Ireland, Australia, Nepal and Tanzania. She is the Founding Director of

ThoughtBox Education – a social enterprise fostering triple wellbeing by

helping young people deepen relationships with themselves, society and the

natural world. She is the pioneer behind Changing Climates: a free climate

change curriculum currently being used in 1500+ schools across 56 countries.

Rachel is currently working with industry leaders on education reform policy

and standing as an international thought-leader on climate-change education

and triple-wellbeing in schools.

ThoughtBox: https://www.thoughtboxeducation.com
ThoughtBox Community Network: www.thoughtboxeducation.com/community
New free membership for global educators: https://www.thoughtboxeducation.com/teaching-for-a-better-world
Freedom to Think: Blog on the new anti-capitalist ban in UK schools: https://www.thoughtboxeducation.com/blog/freedom-to-think

The Best of Times, The Worst of Times: Responding to Climate Change with Dr Paul Behrens Dec 09, 2020

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How bad are things really? Is it too late to avert the climate and ecological catastrophe? And if not, how do we pull ourselves back from the brink? Exploring answers with Paul Behrens, author of 'The Best of Times, The Worst of Times'.

We live on the edge of change - the facts can be terrifying, but the creative potential of our times is inspiring and just as jaw-dropping as the horrors of the reality we inhabit.

Paul Behrens is Assistant Professor of Energy and Environmental Change at Leiden University in the Netherlands. He has advised governments and his work on climate change has appeared in leading scientific journals, as well as on the BBC, in the New York Times and Scientific American. He's got a clear, un-sensational view of the way things are - and how we can bring ourselves back from the brink.
In our conversation, we explore the realities and the possibilities - and where we might go from here.

Pauls Book: https://blackwells.co.uk/bookshop/product/The-Best-of-Times-The-Worst-of-Times-by-Paul-Behrens-author/9781911648093

Breaking the Rules to save the world: How to be More Pirate, with Alex Barker Dec 02, 2020

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How can we take the radical, renegade, rule-breaking, revolutionary ideals of the golden age of Pirates and transmute them to gold in our world? Alex Barker, author of 'How to be More Pirate' lays out the maps to the treasure of change.

The concept of radical, renegade, revolutionary insurgency based on the model created in the Golden Age of Pirates was given wings by Sam Conniff's best selling book, BE MORE PIRATE.

In the wake of its success, Sam needed to find ways to help the many people the book inspired. And for that he needed help. Enter Alex Barker, Primary Pirate, visionary, breaker of rules and maker of gatherings on and offline. Alex and Sam between them have steered Pirate groups from industries as far apart as car manufacturing (Mercedes), Social Media Mega-Giants (Google) and nationally owned health care providers (the UK's NHS).

But we can go deeper than simply breaking the old, fossilised structures of industries... we can change the entire system. Because, as Sam says, 'problems will not be fixed by fixing the problems... what's really needed is an overhaul of the engine that's causing the problems. In other words, the business model.'
And, as Alex says, 'I want to see many more new crews forming outside of formal structures, so that while the old models fall, new ones are already emerging.'
Accidental Gods seeks to be part of that emerging eco-system of new ways of being. And to get there, we need new ways of thinking - and ways we can each break out of the moulds that have cast us. Alex Barker offers a map to the treasure of change. Follow us!

The book: https://www.bemorepirate.com/the-book
The Workshops: https://www.bemorepirate.com/the-workshop
Rethink Humanity Paper: https://www.rethinkx.com/humanity

As we said at the end of the podcast, Mike Raven and Ross Thornley of AQAI have kindly agreed to let Accidental Gods subscribers and members access their Adaptability Quotient test.

The link is here:
DISCOUNT CODE FOR AQAI: https://app.aqai.io/signup/aqme?discount_code=ACCGODS

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