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Chief Judge Jennifer W. Elrod on Civility, Jury Trials, and Judicial Independence May 27, 2026

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In this episode of ABOTA Speaks, host Jill Webb speaks with Chief Judge Jennifer W. Elrod of the United States Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit about civility in the legal profession, the importance of jury trials, and protecting public confidence in the judiciary.

Drawing from her experience as both a trial judge and appellate judge, Chief Judge Elrod shares practical wisdom on professionalism, mentorship, and why lawyers must learn to work respectfully with those they may oppose in court. She reflects on how collegiality and civility shape stronger lawyers, stronger courts, and stronger communities.

The conversation takes a musical twist as she offers a memorable example of how she teaches these values—through musical performances with her local Inn of Court—showing how creativity and connection can make lessons about professionalism and ethics truly stick. Watch an example from 2020: “We’ll Be Back,” performed by federal trial and appellate judges in Houston and Galveston:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TJ1ohwAsgY

The conversation explores the constitutional importance of jury trials, preserving the Seventh Amendment, and why young lawyers need more real courtroom experience early in their careers. Chief Judge Elrod also discusses judicial independence, public confidence in the courts, and the responsibility lawyers have in defending the rule of law.

She closes with a reminder that professionalism begins with human connection—stepping away from our phones, listening carefully, and treating one another with respect.

Learn more about ABOTA: www.abota.org ABOTA Speaks releases new episodes every two weeks.

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Professor Elizabeth Fraley on Artificial Intelligence, Ethics, and the Future of Trial Practice May 13, 2026

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In this episode of ABOTA Speaks, host Jake Courtney speaks with Professor Elizabeth Fraley of Baylor University School of Law about the growing role of artificial intelligence in legal practice and why lawyers should be learning how to use it now.

A full-time trial lawyer, law professor, and ABOTA board member, Professor Fraley brings a practical and balanced perspective to the conversation. Rather than asking whether lawyers should use AI, she explains why ethical practice may increasingly require it.

They discuss how AI can improve efficiency for clients, reduce costs, and help lawyers work more effectively, from document review and legal research to mediation prep and trial work.

Just as important, they discuss the risks: hallucinations, confidentiality concerns, overreliance, and the professional responsibility lawyers still carry to verify every source and exercise independent judgment.

Professor Fraley emphasizes that AI is not a replacement for lawyers. It cannot replace empathy, wisdom, advocacy, or professional judgment, but it can be a powerful tool when used thoughtfully and responsibly.

She also offers practical advice for lawyers who feel hesitant about adopting new technology: start with one problem you want to solve and work from there.

This is a practical conversation about technology, ethics, and how the legal profession can adapt without losing what matters most.

Learn more about ABOTA: www.abota.org ABOTA Speaks releases new episodes every two weeks.

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Preserving Judicial Independence and Public Trust in our Courts Apr 29, 2026

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In this episode of ABOTA Speaks, we feature an extended conversation with Chief Judges Dori Contreras, Mark Green and Mark Pfeiffer of the Council of Chief Judges of the State Courts of Appeals (CCJSCA) – a strong partner of the American Board of Trial Advocates (ABOTA).

Together, they explore the role of appellate courts, the importance of judicial independence, and the shared responsibility of judges and trial lawyers in maintaining public confidence in the justice system. The discussion highlights how collaboration between the bench and bar strengthens the Rule of Law.

Key topics include:

The mission of the Council of Chief Justices and its role in supporting appellate courts across the country
Why public understanding of the judicial process is essential to maintaining trust in the courts and ultimately understanding and maintaining our democracy
The importance of collaboration between judges and trial lawyers as partners in the justice system
Challenges facing the judiciary, including public perception and political pressures
Practical insights for trial lawyers, including preserving the record on appeal and maintaining professionalism

The conversation also touches on judicial selection systems across the states and how emerging issues, including artificial intelligence, may shape the future of the legal system.

Learn more about ABOTA: www.abota.org ABOTA Speaks releases new episodes every two weeks.

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Preview of the SEABOTA Annual Conference in Charleston Apr 15, 2026

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In this episode of ABOTA Speaks, host Jake Courtney converses with SEABOTA President, Christy Crow, about the upcoming SEABOTA Annual Conference, taking place in Charleston, South Carolina, April 23–26, 2026.

SEABOTA brings together trial lawyers from across the southeastern United States for a weekend focused on connection, mentorship, and professional growth. This year’s conference—Trial Advocacy in Bloom: Advancing Justice in the Lowcountry—features distinguished speakers, continuing legal education, and opportunities to build meaningful relationships within the trial bar.

In this episode, they discuss:

Key speakers and topics for this year’s conference
The importance of mentorship, professionalism, and community within the trial bar
Unique aspects of the conference, including smaller group gatherings and networking opportunities
The structure of SEABOTA and its role within ABOTA’s regional chapters

Christy and Jake also explore the realities of legal practices in rural communities, including areas with very few attorneys and the resulting challenges for access to justice. Finally, they also touch on the work of the ABOTA Foundation, including a civics education initiative involving a classroom program in Kentucky.

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Inside ABOTA’s National Women’s Leadership Summit Apr 01, 2026

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In this episode of ABOTA Speaks, host Jill Webb converses with Stacy Garcia and Christa Ramey about the upcoming National Women’s Leadership Summit, taking place in Savannah, Georgia, April 9-12, 2026.

Now in its second year, the Summit brings together women trial lawyers from across the country for a weekend focused on connection, mentorship, and professional growth. Building on the success of last year’s inaugural event, this year’s program features keynote speakers, panel discussions, and opportunities to build meaningful relationships within the trial bar.

In this episode, they discuss:

Why the Women’s Leadership Summit was created and why it continues to grow
Keynote speakers and panels, including judicial, client, and leadership discussions
How the Summit creates a welcoming entry point to national ABOTA involvement
The importance of mentorship, community, and supporting women in the trial bar

They also highlight the collaborative nature of the event, including its unique structure as a fully self-funded program supported by sponsorships and attendee participation.

Learn more about ABOTA: www.abota.org

ABOTA Speaks releases new episodes every two weeks.

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Scott Costantino on Leadership, Service, and the Future of the Trial Bar Mar 18, 2026

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In this episode of ABOTA Speaks, host Jake Courtney sits down with Scott Costantino, a trial lawyer from Jacksonville, Florida, ABOTA leader, and current President of the International Society of Barristers, for a conversation about leadership, service, and involvement in the trial bar.

Scott reflects on his early career and how membership in ABOTA began as an aspiration—something to work toward as he gained trial experience and built his reputation in the courtroom. He shares how showing up, volunteering, and raising his hand to serve opened the door to leadership opportunities within the organization.

The conversation also explores how the realities of modern litigation—fewer jury trials and increasing costs—have changed the path for younger lawyers seeking courtroom experience. Scott and Jake discuss why organizations remain essential to mentoring the next generation of trial lawyers and protecting the right to trial by jury.

Scott also offers perspective from his role as President of the International Society of Barristers, an invitation-only organization of plaintiff and defense trial lawyers that emphasizes professional fellowship and lifelong relationships within the trial bar.

Learn more:

American Board of Trial Advocates: www.abota.org

International Society of Barristers: www.isob.com

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Inside the American Civil Trial Bar Roundtable: Protecting the Right to Trial by Jury Mar 04, 2026

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In this episode of ABOTA Speaks, host Jill Webb sits down with John Cuttino and Sean Domnick, co-facilitators of the American Civil Trial Bar Roundtable, to discuss the unique role this organization plays in protecting the civil justice system.

The American Civil Trial Bar Roundtable brings together leaders from major plaintiff and defense organizations—including DRI, AAJ, the American Bar Association, and others—for high-level discussions about the challenges facing the civil jury trial system. From artificial intelligence to mandatory arbitration clauses to protecting the judiciary, the Roundtable provides a forum for candid dialogue and collaboration across the trial bar.

John and Sean explain:

· What the American Civil Trial Bar Roundtable is—and why it was founded

· How ABOTA serves as the founder and host organization

· Why the structure of the Roundtable is essential to its effectiveness

· How diverse trial groups collaborate on issues affecting the profession

· Why the Seventh Amendment remains foundational to American democracy

They also discuss how the Roundtable’s work extends beyond lawyers—impacting everyday citizens by helping preserve access to meaningful jury trials and addressing emerging threats to the Rule of Law.

Learn more:

American Board of Trial Advocates: www.abota.org

DRI – Association of Lawyers Defending Business: www.dri.org

American Association for Justice: www.justice.org

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Camille Vasquez on Preparation, Professionalism, and Changing the Narrative in a Jury Trial Feb 18, 2026

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In this episode of ABOTA Speaks, host Jake Courtney sits down with trial attorney Camille Vasquez, widely known for her cross-examination of Amber Heard in the jury trial where she represented Johnny Depp, for a conversation about preparation, credibility, and the realities of practicing law in high-profile cases.

Camille reflects on her early participation in the ABOTA Fellowship program during law school, and how that experience shaped her approach to courtroom advocacy. She discusses the discipline required to build credibility with juries, the importance of preparation, and how lawyers are perceived in the courtroom.

The conversation also explores her role in the highly publicized Depp v. Heard trial, offering insight into what it means to try a case under intense national and international scrutiny. Camille shares lessons on composure, professionalism, and maintaining focus when the spotlight is consistent and constant during trial.

Topics include:

· How the ABOTA Fellowship influenced her career path

· The discipline behind effective trial preparation

· Juror perception and courtroom credibility

· Practicing law in a nationally televised trial

· Why civility and professionalism remain essential in modern advocacy

Learn more about ABOTA: www.abota.org

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Judges on Civility, Credibility, and the Future of the Jury Trial Feb 04, 2026

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In this episode of ABOTA Speaks, host Jill Webb is joined by U.S. Judge Robert L. Pitman of the Western District of Texas,U.S. ChiefJudge Amos L. Mazzant III, of the Eastern District of Texas, and Justice Chari L. Kelly for the Texas Third Court of Appeals for a candid conversation about jury trials—from the perspective of the bench.

Drawing on their collective experience, these judges discuss openly how jurors experience the courtroom, what builds or erodes credibility, and why civility and professionalism remain essential to the future of the jury trial.

Their conversation explores how jurors perceive attorneys and witnesses, the subtle details that influence trust, and the responsibility lawyers share in maintaining confidence in the justice system. Along the way, the judges offer thoughtful observations and real-world examples that underscore just how closely juries are paying attention.

This episode offers valuable insight for trial lawyers and anyone interested in the evolving role of juries and the enduring importance of credibility in the courtroom.

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Talmage Boston on Law, Leadership, and Lessons from History Jan 21, 2026

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Season 2 of ABOTA Speaks continues with a thoughtful conversation that reflects on leadership, discipline, and the value of historical perspective.

Host Jake Courtney is joined by Talmage Boston, a trial lawyer, historian, and author, for a discussion about how studying the past can inform the way we think, lead, and practice law today. Drawing on his experience both in the courtroom and as a writer, Talmage shares insights into the habits of effective leaders, the discipline required for meaningful work, and why long-form thinking still matters.

In this episode, the conversation explores:

· How Talmage balances trial practice with writing and historical research
· What studying leadership across time reveals about preparation, character, and judgment
· Why curiosity, discipline, and reflection are essential traits for lawyers and leaders alike

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Learn more about ABOTA: www.abota.org

Learn more about Talmage Boston:

Cross-Examining History Podcast: https://pod.link/1460591295

https://talmageboston.com/

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