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    A Special Place in Hell

    Two girls, one podcast.

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    Copyright: © Meghan Daum & Sarah Haider

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    2. Shmashmortion Breakdown Jun 27, 2022

    In this (second!) episode of A Special Place In Hell, the girls/women discuss the use of the word “girls” in the show’s tagline and whether it’s anti-feminist. Meghan describes visiting the set (well, sitting on a patio outside the set) of Real Time with Bill Maher on Friday to watch Blocked and Reported co-host Katie Herzog’s debut appearance on the show, alongside Andrew Sullivan. Sarah recalls her own guest appearance on Real Time (also with Andrew Sullivan!) and both agree that going on that show is a traumatic experience that most media people will nonetheless kill for.
    The girls/women then move on to the obvious main topic: the long-anticipated yet still shocking news of the SCOTUS overturning of Roe v. Wade. They break down the political and practical ramifications of this decision while also assessing the collective nervous breakdown that’s playing out on social media and elsewhere. Sarah explains why she thinks the ruling will cause many years—even decades—of pain but might ultimately pave the way for wider pro-choice legislation across the country. Meghan asks why politically conservative women, from Phyllis Schlafly to Amy Coney Barrett, seem able to balance big families and big careers better than liberal women. This leads into a conversation about the “trad” trend and why so many young people seem to be fetishizing pioneer life.
    Other highlights:
    Can you be a “trad furry?”
    If Amy Coney Barrett were on the political left, would she be a Badass Boss B***h Earth Mama She-ro?
    Sarah gives a sneak preview of her latest article in Hold That Thought.
    Meghan does some psychological processing of a tweet she sent Friday evening that went viral. It was a high quality joke. But naturally it was “weaponized!”
    Meghan and Sarah both try to take the high road on social media, but are they kidding themselves? (Yes.)
    Relevant links:
    Sarah’s Substack newsletter Hold That Thought
    Meghan’s May 8 Unspeakable Podcast interview with legendary abortion rights activist Frances Kissling
    This week’s Unspeakable Podcast two-part series on guns
    Meghan’s new project-in-progress The Unspeakeasy, a community for heterodox-minded women.
    Get full access to A Special Place In Hell at aspecialplace.substack.com/subscribe


    1: The Elephant In The Pickle Jar Jun 22, 2022

    In this inaugural edition of A Special Place In Hell, Sarah and Meghan kick things off with an explanation of how to pronounce (or not bother pronouncing) their names. From there, they ponder their 20-plus year age difference and do not think about the fact that Meghan is technically old enough to be Sarah’s . . oh never mind. They then commence with in-depth discussions of three recent pieces of media content.
    The first is Ryan Grim’s treatise in the Intercept about the epidemic of personnel meltdowns at progressive nonprofit organizations. (As a nonprofit leader herself, Sarah found this very interesting, as well as deliciously vindicating.) They move on to What Is A Woman?, the documentary by Daily Wire correspondent Matt Walsh, who pokes fun at jargon-spewing ideologues while asking a fundamental and seemingly simple question no one can answer. The film is a powerful shot over the bow in the battles over gender ideology, but does it trip over its own right wing agenda and undermine itself with sexist stereotypes? Finally, the ladies deliberate over Sunday’s very long New York Times Magazine article about debates within the field of medicalized gender transition in young people, a subject they’re both already obsessed with.
    Other highlights:
    Meghan explains to Sarah the connection between J. Jill clothes and the progressive nonprofit world.
    Meghan makes a reference to Christopher Guest movies and Sarah doesn’t know what she’s talking about.
    Meghan sings one line of Steely Dan.
    Sarah wonders if breaking out of the gender ideology cult--er, “community” is analogous to leaving the Muslim faith.
    Sarah reveals her mother’s “nickname” for her father.
    Links:
    The Elephant In The Zoom by Ryan Grim, The Intercept
    What Is A Woman? film by Matt Walsh, The Daily Wire
    The Battle Over Gender Therapy by Emily Bazelon, The New York Times Magazine
    Get full access to A Special Place In Hell at aspecialplace.substack.com/subscribe


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