In this episode we discuss Preachers N Sneakers, a controversial platform that displays some the expensive items that preachers and spiritual leaders wear. This is really a bridge to talk about a more relevant topic, materialism. Materialism is defined as: a tendency to consider material possessions and physical comfort as more important than spiritual values.
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Again, thank you a Christian podcast would not be the same without you. Now, in this episode, we dive into the topic of materialism. Now the episode is titled preachers and sneaker, but I don't want us to get stuck so much on the idea of preachers and sneakers, which if you're not familiar will make sense once we happen to the episode, but I really want us to focus more so on the overall topic, which is materialism and materialism.
When you first hear it, it sounds bigger than it is right. But real quick, I'll just define it, which is materialism is a tendency to consider material possessions and physical comfort as more important than spiritual values. So to summarize that and make it relevant to the Christian faith, loving things more than you love God more than you love Jesus.
And so I just wanted to kind of set that stage and yeah. No fixed those parameters before we happen. Today's episode. So whatever you're doing, wherever you're at, maybe you're driving, maybe you're cleaning up. Maybe you're working out, whatever it may be. My hope is that you enjoy this episode.
All right. So I got the crew with me today. I will go to my left. A lot of the announcer says that it will get into it.
My name is Samaria area, or y'all know me as Sammy.
My name is Michala.
My name is Gabe.
All right. Cool. So preachers and sneakers, is this familiar to anybody? Yes. I've heard of it gave you heard appreciate sneakers.
So for those that don't know, preaches and sneakers is a Instagram and a platform created by this guy where he posts, uh, preachers and like, you know, like spiritual leaders. That were very expensive shoes and clothing. Right. So it's, you know, create a lot of controversy. I, some people are like, how dare these pastors wear, you know, all this expensive stuff, because it's specific.
Yeah. Why are you it, you know what I'm saying? The pastor Mike Todd's, uh, pastor Steven Furtick, like, you know, Um, and clothing, all that stuff. Right. And so other people are like, that's what they want to do, what they believe. That's what, right. So it's this big, like thing is, it is a pretty big platform right now.
Yeah. Um, but my question is, is it wrong for, and we'll talk more about it. We'll start off with kind of preachers, but then we'll get into, you know, more general for the everyday person. Um, but is it wrong for preachers to wear. Very specific, very expensive clothing.
Yeah. I want to go first. Um, I don't think it's wrong that, um, at all, um, I think he's more so, um, that's the fruits of their labor and like you said, like that's what they can like if that's what they wanna do with their money, that's what they want to do with their money.
Um, my job, according to the Bible is to pay my 10% and give my offerings after that. Whatever, like whatever happens with the money after that, that's not, that's not, I'm not going to judge for that. They are so it's on them. If they, you know, they're doing things ill advise with their money. That's not on me, that's on them.
I've done what I've done with the Bible told me to do so for me, that's what I want to spend any money on. Just like anybody else. They have a free will to do that. Obviously like the church pays them because they do a service they preach. And, you know, and then on top of that, a lot of other preachers, like our preachers have like book deals and all this other stuff that they're doing that bringing in revenue that where they can spend money like that.
And sometimes it's not even, it's not even the churches money. And even I'm like, Just being like doing security at my old church in Kansas city. Um, my pastor there, he's a pastor of Hillsong Casey now, uh, Kyle Turner, he received a jacket from somebody that worked in like this high skill, like boutique and the jacket was like six cakes.
No, I was like, what the heck? He didn't buy it. It was the gift. But if somebody saw that, you know, they would assume that he paid $6,000 for a jacket. Right. You know? So like, I think you should know the facts before you start trying to like judge people,
Um, so I think like what you said there, you know, knowing the facts is definitely important because it could be a totally different situation from what it was.
I think that though, knowing the time we're in, I think there could be balanced. Like, uh, we know you may not be a pastor that abuses, you know, the cloth and the money of your Patriots, but. There are passages that do right. And like that stigma, especially in the black community has been so negative when it comes to reaching those that are lost.
So it's just like, um, Not saying you got to dress like a homeless person when you preach, like, you know, your style is your style. And, and I don't think there's anything wrong, you know, if you want to buy some Jordans or even something more than that. But I think just being cognizant like that, this is a stigma that, that affects people.
And especially when it comes to buying yourself. You know, even if it is a legitimate in way, uh, I do think, you know, kind of maybe dying to self is something that could be good for our community. Like, uh, you know, taking some of that, those funds and just those things and like focus the attention somewhere felt like it might not even be the attention.
Yeah. But just trying to, like in a time where everything is so dire, like focusing on the community to where there's the forefront and, you know, and then it brings like, makes me think of too, like. We know when you are ministering, it's not even supposed to be about you. Right. Right. So it's kind of like wearing those types of things.
Yeah. And the turn, like, it kind of makes it about you. And so it, and it just distracts. Um, I don't know. Yeah.
Yeah. And so, and so I think that's a very good point. And so let's say a pastor is wearing a, a thousand dollar pair of sneakers. Right. Does the conversation change if he's wearing it on the pulpit?
Versus he's just wearing it in his regular day life. And maybe like he took a flick and it's on the ground. Is that, is that different?
I think according to her statement, she made it earlier. I think it's definitely different because if you're not wearing it, that's not sneakers on, on stage. And you're actually trying to be in, you know, Present the word of God and not be a distraction like you said, then I don't think when he, but, but on top of that, people do follow a lot of patches on social media as well.
So if they look for that guidance or whatever through social media, that could be a distraction too. So
That's a, that's a fine line. The line,
I think it's different. And I'll just use an example. So, um, For those of you that don't know, my mother is actually a pastor. My father was the pastor and he passed away and now my mom is over it.
So it's been times where, like my mom, she's very a dainty and she likes to match her colors and jewelry, but not anything like too flashy, you know, but I know like there are people. They have, um, in our congregation that have made like statements like, Oh, I noticed that silver bracelet you had on it. My mom was all the way on the pulpit.
And it's like, you notice that silver bracelet all the way from the congregation, you know? So I mean, and it's not a bad thing, but it's the simple fact, like if they can notice that bracelet, then. I'm sure someone else is thinking like, Oh, they got those Gucci shoes on, or you got that, like you said, Fendi top wear that.
Or whatever the case may be. Um, in certain name brands, aren't like, they might not have their emblem on it. So a pastor may wear just a white top and you may never know that it's name
brand. Yeah. Because a hundred dollars for the tee shirts.
Exactly. But yeah. Then the minute they have that emblem on there, then yeah.
Things have changed, you know?
So I think
it's a differentiator or a difference.
Yeah. Yeah. I think he's, I see both sides and I use this word almost every episode, but it's delicate, like on one end, like one of my homeboys. Right. And he broke it down in a way that I was like, ah, kinda y'all feel to pass it.
Like I, I get both sides. Right. But he was saying. Um, just think about percentage, right? Uh, if you make somebody make a hundred dollars a week just to make it easy. Right. And that was a week and they spent 10% of that on clothes. They spent $10 on clothes, right. Somebody make a thousand dollars a week. You know what I'm saying?
They're 10% is a honey. You get what I'm saying? And so if you're talking about somebody that's making more money through speaking and book teaching books and like, you know, the fruit of their labor. Yeah. You're spending a thousand dollars on a pair of shoes is like me spending a hundred dollars on it.
You know what I'm saying? Like give perspective and ratio. They're not what I'm saying. They're not spending a crazy amount of what they make wrong. Those things. Right. That's true. That's true. On the other end. No. I can't relate because I'm just like, just me being me. I'm super, like, not that it would say, like, I wear this pair of shoes.
I wear it every day. That's about, and so, like, I couldn't imagine me, even if I had that kind of money spending it on that. And if I did buy quality things, me personally, I would buy things that you, like you said, Sam, like, it wouldn't, you wouldn't know it. Like let's say I did buy $200 shirt. Right. It would be like, You know what I'm saying?
Like no brain, no, Ralph Lauren purple label that nobody like people don't know that I'm saying like the labels on the inside wouldn't even know, um, which I can't even see myself doing forever. Right. Think
Kevin should, should pass those be charged and extensive amounts of money for their speaking engagements.
Well, ah, I see, I see. That's good. But I think also I think when it comes to preaching. We can't, um, because they are men and women of God, we can't, uh, bring down that word. Right, right. And so I think what they pay for is what they is, what the value they bring. Right. So if I come to your church and because I was there, your attendance is up 200% and your ties and offering go up 200%.
I brought you the value of XYZ. And so I should be compensated for that. Right. I think it's tough. Cause I definitely, I get the other side of that. It's like, you should be, you know, with a servant heart and just, you know, this would be almost like a favorite under the church, but at the end of the day, preach it just like anybody else work.
Hard, if not harder than ever, you know, spiritually definitely. Yeah. People that don't preach, um, it takes time to, to speak. It takes effort to work on your sermon or work on your teaching or your speaking and all this stuff. And so I do think you should be compensated for that, um, because it's motivational speakers.
That are not religious that get paid thousands, thousands of dollars per speaking engagement. And so it's true. I think the men and women of God should get the same thing.
I think it also just depends. So let's say you have a preacher that is like maybe traveling from city to city, like, you know, those funds and expenses go towards.
Gas for them, I guess, or maybe like a production team camera. They like, say like travel. Yeah. Travel expenses. I think it just depends. And even maybe some of those proceeds could go to the church that they may be at. You get what I'm saying? So I think it just factors in like, um, just different things.
Yeah. Yeah. Is it the same with, um, cars? Because I think cars is a funny situation, right? Yeah. Because. You can have two cars that cost the same amount, but one is perceived for last year. Right? So example, let's say you take a BMW, right? Like a seven 45. If you don't know, it's, it's, it's a nice model. So nice.
Right. When you see it USA, that's a nice car. Now you take that and you like, see the BMW envelope. So I was like, Oh, you got money right. The other day. And not other than a couple of months ago. I was at a car lot and I was looking at a Tahoe Chevy Tahoe. Right. I ain't know they was expensive. Right, bro. I looked at one.
It was like 76,000. Yeah. Yeah. I could have got a bit, you get some w but if you see me pull up in a Chevy Tahoe, you can be like, although it'd be a nice, that's a nice truck. You're not going to say, Oh, you got money. Or like, it's not perceived as flashy. Right. Even though it costs the same. And so, yeah. If a preacher pulls up in a, when I'm talking, like, let's say, let's not even go big scale.
Let's go small scale preacher. Right. Um, he pulls up in a Mercedes, you know what I'm saying? A Mercedes Benz it's class. Right, right now. Right. The congregation may say, Ooh, okay. Yeah. It was like, possibly
what you're doing,
right? Yeah. He could take the same money. And put it in either, like I said, like a Tahoe or even like, um, those higher model, like I I've seen like the, what are the Honda Genesis.
nice. But you see a Honda and you say
sort of perception is different. Yes. I think it's, it's, it's tough because it's like dollar for dollar the same. Yeah. Is it worth you, people perceiving you as vain are, you know what I'm saying? Like I'm doing things for the show. It's tough.
Yeah. Cause it's like when you're dealing in people's perceptions, people always going to perceive something some type of way, even as an incident.
Cause like my dad is a pastor too. And so that makes me think about like, he will always do yearly. Things were telling like the church, the financial yeah. Kind of like was being spent on way of that. And so I just think of like what perception my dad was a car salesman too. So he's always kind of like love nice cars man had like Mercedes here and there, but I mean, so I guess perception, but really like he was putting more money into the church then, like he was getting from the church.
Like you just never know. Um, and so I think like being transparent can help, like with that, but, um, and like, you know, just balance, like, it might be a Benz, but who says it's a 2020, right. It could be Tony 11 and you don't even know, you know, you don't know cars, so,
yeah. Yeah. And I think like is, I mean, what believers and nonbelievers, I just think it's a society type of thing.
Um, but you know, Back in old Testament days, they have they robes and you know, stuff and they, Jesus sandals and Jesus know
I'm saying, but I mean, his perception was just like it spoke humility. And, um, I think nowadays people expect the same, not in robes and stuff, of course, but just the same perception of humility. And I think. That's where it, when a pastor comes in, whether it's a pricey car or even a new home or whatever the case may be, that's when it's kind of like, Oh, well you're using the money for this.
Like, you know, and it's like, well, passengers can have nice things, but it's okay.
I can't, I need to read the room. Cause it's kind of like, how can I do street ministry? And I'm going to talk to, you know, the homeless and the downtrodden, but I'm pulling up. In my, I don't know, insert whatever, nice car here.
And I'm just dripping here too. I mean, some people might respect that, but I don't know. So it's like, kind of like, what is it worth it? Like,
are you in the room? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I, I, it, it's just like, I keep, I can really argue, like if somebody said Kevin, get in front of these people in debate for either side, I could.
And so I don't know what if there's an answer, like, should. Preachers were like, I don't know. Yeah. But I think, like you say at the, read the room and evaluate, what is it worth? Yeah. I guess me wearing his pair of red bottoms worth the one person that is one now distracted. Um, that could be getting the word of God.
And of course you could say what they should be focused on the word I'm getting, but it's like, people are not, I talked about this in the last pocket. You don't have the privilege as Christians. To assume certain things like that, people, how do I say this? You can't assume that people are going to give you the benefit of the doubt.
Right? Right. And so, because we're dealing with souls and not just like, Oh, this person don't like me, that's one thing. But like, we're dealing with somebody saying that preacher had on ramp, they was trying to up their preach word guy and they they'd try and get my tea. Like I was trying to get my money.
And then now you've. Would you have taken is the word of God. You were trying to deliver it and somebody has not been able to because of what you would you wore. Right. Um, and like I said, my, I I'm not for or against, but that's just a perspective that I think should be considered at least, you know, for sure.
Yes. It just makes it seem like, like, as far as the pastor, you know, God, of course at the end of the day wants you to be you, you know? So it was one of those things where like, it's the pastor scene pants or whatever the case this may be. And they like it and they it's nice, even though it cost a bit much or maybe much to us.
And that's another thing, it might be much to us, but like you said, it may not be that much for them. Yeah. But if they like it then, and why say like, Well, I can't get it. Cause people are gonna perceive me as a pastor that just spends all the money on this and not for the church, you know, things like that.
So it's, I'm like you I'm on the fence of it. Um, I could debate either or, but it's kind of, I think it's the same thing when it comes to that. So yeah.
I mean like, but like also we're all humans and I don't think everybody's perfect. Right. So I think, and I think with certain passions, when they get to a certain level of.
Prestigious I guess, or whatever. Um, I think they get a sense of pride and I'm not saying it's all bad, but like, but like you said, what's the reason of getting there. This is it to flex or is it because you genuinely like the shoes? So I'm just like, I think most of them are. This is personal, but I think most them trying to flex and like, maybe it is, you know, 10% or whatever of what they make that week or whatever, but it's still the fact like, because you're set.
Kind of not hiring other people, but because you have a, a duty as a pastor too, bring forth the word of God and reach people. I think you should take into account where you're shopping. I mean, I'm not saying it shouldn't be walking on eggshells all the time, but I'm just saying like, you should take into account those things, like, because you, because think about it.
What have you, what have you. Like she said, it's a distraction and you're up there preaching, like you preaching on fireworks, but you can have some G phase or whatever. And like, he like, bro, he got on G I ain't about to listen to this dude. like, you know, but that's a soul that you just missed out on because you wanted to wear it your face.
I see a lot as a family in your congregation that can make rent
Oh yeah. It's so it's so tough.
It's usually things like them, like paying off. A million dollars in medical debt or somebody, a house. And like, like you said, it's balanced, but then on top of that, like what if somebody didn't see the whole house part, but now they seeing you with your face on, so it's just like, like it's a, it's a battle.
It's like a thin line, like I said earlier.
So, so you said something, I can't remember that word, but I wrote it down like 10 seconds before USA, which you said, okay. And I wrote down. Do people really like nice things. So my question with that is I think I really, and I struggle with this. I've I've had like the base of my mom.
I like talking about it my mind. Do people really, truly like nice things just because of what they are, or is it all that, like, if you. Took every memory that you've ever had and every experience that you've ever had in life. And that was deleted. Right. And you were born again at the age, you are now, and somebody placed in front of you, a pair of shoes and said, pick the one you like.
You may, you may pick up the most expensive ones, but I think in a lot of cases you wouldn't, right? Like, would you really pick up the red bottoms because what I'm saying, or would you really pick up the cheese? Right? Like maybe the sketches you would come out and be like, bro, don't skip. Those are fun. You wouldn't know that were sketching, photos look fire.
Um, and I think a lot of what we, we say we like is. Been taught because of the value or the worth or how much
it costs. Cause we see what comes with it.
don't like all Nike, like, Oh, you know, I keyed up bro. Oh, you got all Gucci. Like, Oh, he got on Gucci.
No, I could say that's how I used to hygiene really like this $200 t-shirt.
Yeah. Is it that much better quality than the $20? T-shirt like you get what I'm saying? Like I think we can trick our minds to thinking that we actually like. Expensive things versus we liked what they come with. We like the value that people perceive us as having when we have those things. Right. Um,
I mean, it's kind of like Apple, is it that it's all that or it's just the prestige.
Right. And having an iPhone
the AirPods is a thing. Apple, Apple is nice. Yeah. But for every iPhone they come out with, I can give you 10 different Androids. It's way better form like this, like just respects that perform much better. And so like part of Apple. Um, part of Disney world, part of all these things, is that the experience and the value, or at least perceived value, right?
Because a lot of stuff you paying for when it comes to luxury items, you're not paying it, don't, it didn't cost them nowhere near 2000 and dollars to make that
pair of shoes.
You get what I'm saying?
What about houses?
Oh, that's a big thing. As long as they got it in the right way. Cause like I hear stories about, you know, church BAS the house passed by his house for like, you know, sort of like this. So now that's like tainted everything, but yeah, but I guess still being cognizant, I mean, but now the members shouldn't be knowing like, Oh, this is where the pastor lives.
Like I think there should be like a separation at it, but yeah, it's just so. Like, but, but I think, yeah, I'm just the type of person where I don't like gaudiness in general. So like, when I hear like stories of celebrities by like, 16 bedroom managers. I'm just like for the night could go a whole month and not enter half those rooms.
Like, so that would just be weird. It is for me, I'm just like, wow. Like, especially when you're someone that says you care about your community, I just can't imagine. And that's not to say like the people that have money have this obligation to give, but it's just like in trying to care about that, I can't see myself having the money for a 16 bedroom mansion and say, okay, I can settle for the four.
And take that money and invest it into something else. Like I don't have to get a fund for whatever ministry, if I have the extra, I can start the fund. Yeah. Add on.
Yeah. Yeah, no, go ahead.
Well, I was going to ask a question that maybe you
sent me. Okay, let me do this. And then I think it's true. But then again, it's also that the percentage thing, athletes.
We've never, I had never thought once about an athlete having a, a big crib. Right. It's because that's part of what, you know what I'm saying? That's like when you're an athlete, you're supposed to get a bit crazy. Like literally MTV cribs is the whole show that I used to watch about people in their nice homes that cost millions of dollars.
Right. Um, I think when it comes to pre, when you put the title preacher on a personnel, You get this responsibility to not use your money the same way as the world. Um, and I think sometimes that's not fair and sometimes it's a part of our responsibility. Um, but yeah, it's the same, you know, same thing as the clothing, like it's your money, you know what you do with what I'm saying?
As long as, like you said, as long as it's your money, you're not like spinning the church's money on it. Right, right. That has happened
for me. It's just. Like I said earlier, I thought I get my 10% and whatever God, like, I'm like, whatever else God told me to give. Right. So I'm just like, I that's on them.
I'm at scripture. And now I got your question, Sammy. I got you, uh, height. Uh, I think that's the one I gave you, right? Ecclesiastes. Yeah. So if you can read that,
all right. So Ecclesiastics five 18 through 19 says, this is what I have observed to be good, that it is appropriate for a person to eat, to drink and to find satisfaction in their toll.
Some labor under the sun during the few days of life, God has given them for this is their lot. Moreover, when God gives someone wealth and possessions and the ability to enjoy them, to accept their life and be happy in their toil, this is the gift of God.
So, so that tells me basically kind of what, you know what Dave was saying.
Like, you give you a temperature, you give what guy you owe, the guy, you should be able to enjoy the fruits of your labor should be able to enjoy the things that God has allowed you to have right now. How excessive is cetera? I don't know. That's not my responsibility. Right. I got yours in a second. Okay.
Send me what you got and
I'm actually glad you read that scripture because that ties into like my question.
you know, with a lot of things and especially of course, like big pastors, they get nice things and that's, that's fine, you know, but a lot of times we have to also, I feel like take ourselves out of it and say like, okay, well he has nice things or he has this money.
He has this yada yada yada being judgmental in a sense. But again, Those could be blessings from God. You know what I'm saying? So with that, it made me reflect back. Think of joke. Jobe had cattle, he had lifestyle, he had all these things. And then when God, or, well, when he allowed Satan to take it away, he blessed him with double yeah.
The amount David Solomon, you know what I'm saying? So like, those people. Granted in their time, their era is different than now, but they had like this equivalent, like they had the same things. Nice thing. Gold and silver. I'm assuming Canada. Yeah. Cattle. Exactly. Like things like that. And to us, it's like, Oh, okay, you got some land.
Alright. You know, but it's the same thing. Yeah. Again, that's why I say like, I feel like. It, it may be, it may be them with their own money and whatever the case may be, but it could just be God blessing them. Like, um, and I literally put a post out right before I came here and I said, don't put a cap on God, because.
He can do exceedingly and
boy. So with that, I just really feel like Brandon, we might not even Kevin, you might not even think like, Oh, I want a million dollars, but if God blessed you with that, a million dollars.
you wouldn't turn
Right. Cause you've
been so faithful. And so, um, you know, humble and doing the work for him, he's decided to bless you. So again, a lot of times people can be judgmental with that, but I feel like you don't know how that person got blessed just because somebody is. You know, less fortunate or whatever they deserve to be blessed, but somebody that has something also deserves to be blessed as well.
Yeah. Uh, so that, that that's really good because it reminds me that think about how, like I said, athletes and entertainers and all this, how much money and, or like earthly treasure they have. Right. Just for the, the work that they do. Yeah. And then think about the work that pastors and preachers are doing, like spiritually, like literally saving souls.
Right. And so that comes one with a lot of, a lot of stuff, like a lot, a lot of spirit, a lot of weight, a lot of spiritual attacks. And like, it comes with a lot of stuff. Right. Um, and so what God allow people that don't. Even serve him to be blessed and not bless the ones that are literally doing his work and bringing souls.
And you know what I'm saying? Like all of these things to the kingdom, right? Like who are we to say that they shouldn't be blessed? That's
good. That's a good perspective.
I like that. Uh, so let's talk about a little less about preachers and pastors and talk about us, like, or just. People just regular degular.
I'm like how much is too much? Like winter? When are you, when do you become selfish on, when is it like? Because it's easy to look at pastors and stuff and say, yeah, but like what, you know what I'm saying? Like how much is it? That's overboard, bro. You don't need that. All you need is a house over your head and this car.
And then like you don't have to have a. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Eight bedroom house or like what
I think it's, I think it's hard pressure first. And then, um, yeah, I think it's definitely hot, hot pressure first. Just, just like the way that you look at certain things, like, are you getting this because you want to flex on people or are you getting it?
Because, like I said earlier, but are you getting, because you genuinely need it,
Um, I've got one. That's all I'm gonna say, but, uh, definitely hard pressure. That's something. And then, um, Oh, wisdom, wisdom. Is it, is it wise to buy a barrel house when you don't like, when you can't afford it is a wise, we ran to BMW, you know, I know it's a black man.
No, but like w like, bro, like don't spend, you know, 70 K on the car when you only make 40 K a year at 30 K a year. That's not very wise. So I think once you, and then like when you're not using wisdom and then when you're doing it for like, For reasons like, Oh, I'm trying to get it so I can stunt not because you really need it, then that's when you kind of cross the line and you're not in God's will anymore.
Right. It's real. Yeah. And I have written down there it's about heart posture. So I'm glad you said that you got me, um, And like, I struggled with it, not struggle, but I kind of have that debate internally a lot. Like what is too much? Like, what are you like for a while? Like, this is probably a couple of months ago.
I just, I go in phases where like, I'm really interested in this stuff and I was like, yo, I want an RV at one time. I'm not talking about like the little cheat I'm talking about the nice light. Yeah. I ain't know they was that much busy, but you know, like when I was, when I'm good and like, I got a nice job and a family and this and that, like I'm thinking having an RV would be dope.
Like you go on trips, like you don't have to stay there. Like, it's, it's an experience in itself. Right. I started looking at prices,
so I'm like, Is that too much? Like it's me spinning. You can really, like you said, you could spend them at $8. I want easy, but it means spending two, 300,000 on an RV. If I could afford it. Is that still too much? Because I'm like, what could you have done with that 200,000? If you put it like two people, like people need help, people are homeless.
Like it there's a lot of things that $200,000. Could fix. Yeah. But when I'm riding down the road and I see a nice RV, the I'm like, Oh, I mean, if you work for it and you, you have the money, like, is that wrong? And I always debate like what, how much is too much? How much, how far is too? You don't need that.
But think about this then when you're like, when you worked and you're like, okay, I got the money to buy this RV or whatever. Is God convenient you to help other people? Or is it just like guys allowing you to think, you feel like, Hey, you know, work for this, I want to buy this. Um, but when you go to buy it, guys, like tuck them in your heart.
Like you said, guy, like on the side of the road, give him 200. It's like, you know, it's God telling you to do that. Is he convicting your heart? When you're about to make this purchase or have you prayed about it? Cause right. I don't usually do that when it comes to huge purchases. I do. Cause I was just taught to do that.
But when it comes to like huge purchases, people don't pray about it. Like, Oh, I really want this. I'm gonna go get it. Yeah. Have you prayed about it? God told you to do, because think about it. Yeah. Like I know some people that like, um, like one of my friends who wanted a Mustang for so long, he saved for it and everything.
He had the money to buy it cash straight cash 2018, I think goes a year or had money to buy forest raid cash. I was going to the dealership and like his mom's like, have you prayed about it? He was at the dealership, prayed about it. And I was like, no, pay these student loans off. So he took his money, pay the student loans off, then, then got gifted one from his job, got Mustang from his job.
So I'm just like, think about that type of conviction. I just got to tell you do these things have been obedient, not, not delayed obedience blade. Obedience is disobedience it's on. My teacher just told me all the
time. But yeah, true. Definitely
use that as a teacher. Wow. That's great. Uh, that is really, really good.
And I think I struggle with just the same thing too, uh, internally, but not so much with, um, How much is too much, but even sometimes, like what pride things, it's kind of like, I feel like I have pure intentions. Like you want some even simple, like I want a house and then like every now and then like a little thought will creep in, like, yeah.
But like once you post like that, you got the house, like, think of like the X, Y, Z people, right. I will say this about you. And then they was like, no, like, no, that's not like what I'm trying to think about it. So it's like, I think checking your heart and stuff often is good when it comes to. Like for whether you're a pastor or like us, the regular people, because it's just like, what's your, like you said, what's your motivations for anything that you're trying to buy or get, or want, like, is it really pure or, um, is it something
Yeah, that's real. And look the Holy spirit spirit, because you say heart, can you read that scripture? I said gate. Oh, it's like the tower is yes, sir. Right.
So it says, sell your possessions and give to the poor, provide. Persist yourselves for yourself. I'm sorry. That will not wear out a treasure in heaven that will never fail where no thief comes near and no moth destroys for where your treasure is there.
Your heart will be also Luke 1233 through 34.
I love this scripture.
It's so hard. Like it's hard posture, like, and I think it's combination, heart posture. And then your conviction. You're praying. I think praying about purchases is one thing that we could all benefit from, and that's not right. It doesn't necessarily come natural.
And a lot of people don't necessarily learn that lesson, but the other day I made a purchase and I was like, God, do you really want me to get this? And like, you know, it's just a matter of checking in, like, that's it, that's your father at the end of the day. And you can't buy anything. I mean, you can, but you wouldn't have it without him.
Right. And so if he really don't want you to have it, he'll get it away from you. Right. So it's like, why would you even set yourself up to do that when you could have just checked in with them at the beginning? So this was a great conversation. I gotta wrap it up. We will talk right. Ever so I appreciate y'all man.
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