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5-4 – Prologue Projects

5-4 is a podcast about how much the Supreme Court sucks. Hosted by Peter Shamshiri, Rhiannon Hamam, and Michael Liroff, it’s a progressive and occasionally profane take on the ideological battles at the heart of the Court’s most important landmark cases and an irreverent tour of all the ways in which the law is shaped by politics.
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Nestlé v. Doe Aug 24, 2021

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Is it wrong to enslave children on a cocoa plantation? We'll never know! The Supreme Court dismissed the case!

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Stephen Breyer [TEASER] Aug 17, 2021

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In this episode, we spend an hour explaining why you should buy our "Stephen Breyer Retire" merch.

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Americans for Prosperity v. Bonta Aug 10, 2021

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The First Amendment protects the rights of very rich people to be anonymous, unbothered, moisturized, in their lane, well-hydrated, flourishing, when it comes to their charitable contributions. Not you though. Signing that petition to free Mumia in 11th grade is going on your permanent record.

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Brnovich v. Democratic National Committee Aug 03, 2021

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In this voting rights case from Arizona, the Supreme Court says you can DO racism, you just can't MEAN to do racism, deep down in your cold little withered heart.

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Why Supreme Court Media Coverage Sucks [TEASER] Jul 27, 2021

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The legal media isn't doing its job. Except for us. We're killing it.

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5-4 Presents: Know Your Enemy on the 1/6 Insurrection Jul 20, 2021

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Feed drop alert again! This week, 5-4 is inviting you to check out an episode of Know Your Enemy. If you like what you hear, subscribe to their feed wherever you get your podcasts. 5-4 will be back with new episodes starting next week.

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Prologue Presents FIASCO: BENGHAZI Jul 15, 2021

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Feed drop alert! No new episode of 5-4 this week, so instead please consider checking out the new season of FIASCO, the history podcast from Prologue Projects. This season we're tackling the Benghazi scandal, starting with the rise of Libyan dictator Muammar Gaddafi and ending with the 2016 election. The episode we're sharing today is the fourth one in the series, in which Mitt Romney's presidential campaign pounces on the Benghazi attack as a political issue before the attack itself was even over. To hear the rest of FIASCO: BENGHAZI, subscribe to the Luminary channel on Apple Podcasts by visiting apple.co/fiasco.

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Cedar Point Nursery v. Hassid Jul 06, 2021

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You know what's exactly the same? When the government kicks you out of your house so it can build a military base, and when a union organizer gives a farm worker a pamphlet. Or at least that's what the majority of justices on the Supreme Court think, based on the ruling in Cedar Point Nursery v. Hassid.

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Textualism [TEASER] Jun 29, 2021

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The hosts discuss Textualism, the legal theory that the dictionary is the real law, God made the dictionary, and what legislators intended is a secondary consideration at best.

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Fulton v. Philadelphia Jun 29, 2021

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In this emergency episode, the hosts discuss one of the spiciest cases from this term, Fulton v. Philadelphia. And you know how conservatives hate spice, so suffice it to say, this holding didn't come out great!

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