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    5-4 – Prologue Projects

    5-4 is a podcast about how much the Supreme Court sucks. Hosted by Peter Shamshiri, Rhiannon Hamam, and Michael Liroff, it’s a progressive and occasionally profane take on the ideological battles at the heart of the Court’s most important landmark cases and an irreverent tour of all the ways in which the law is shaped by politics.
    Subscribe to our premium episodes & much more at fivefourpod.com/support
    5-4 is a production of Prologue Projects.

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    Biden, Harris, and the Future of Court Reform (TEASER) Aug 27, 2024
    Show notes

    This is a subscriber-only episode about Biden's proposals for reforming the Supreme Court... will the hosts of 5-4 say "we do"?


    If you're not a 5-4 Premium member, you're not hearing every episode. To get first dibs on live show tickets, dig into our Premium episode catalog, join our Slack community, and more, subscribe at fivefourpod.com/support.


    5-4 is presented by Prologue Projects. This episode was produced by Lena Richards. Leon Neyfakh and Andrew Parsons provide editorial support. Our researcher is Jonathan DeBruin, and our website was designed by Peter Murphy. Our artwork is by Teddy Blanks at Chips NY, and our theme song is by Spatial Relations.


    Follow the show at @fivefourpod on most platforms. On Twitter, find Peter @The_Law_Boy and Rhiannon @AywaRhiannon.

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.


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    Fischer v. United States Aug 20, 2024
    Show notes

    Did the January 6th riot "obstruct an official proceeding"? That depends on how you interpret that very straightforward and unambiguous phrase.


    You can subscribe to 5-4 Premium on Patreon, Apple Podcasts, or Spotify. Now is a good time: We have an exclusive subscriber-only episode coming next week.


    5-4 is presented by Prologue Projects. This episode was produced by Lena Richards. Leon Neyfakh and Andrew Parsons provide editorial support. Our researcher is Jonathan DeBruin, and our website was designed by Peter Murphy. Our artwork is by Teddy Blanks at Chips NY, and our theme song is by Spatial Relations.


    Follow the show at @fivefourpod on most platforms. On Twitter, find Peter @The_Law_Boy and Rhiannon @AywaRhiannon.


    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.


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    Grants Pass v. Johnson Aug 13, 2024
    Show notes

    It's not about BEING homeless, it's about doing something that's homeless.


    If you're not a 5-4 Premium member, you're not hearing every episode! To get first dibs on live show tickets, dig into our Premium episode catalog, join our Slack community, and more, subscribe at fivefourpod.com/support.


    5-4 is presented by Prologue Projects. This episode was produced by Lena Richards. Leon Neyfakh and Andrew Parsons provide editorial support. Our researcher is Jonathan DeBruin, and our website was designed by Peter Murphy. Our artwork is by Teddy Blanks at Chips NY, and our theme song is by Spatial Relations.


    Follow the show at @fivefourpod on most platforms. On Twitter, find Peter @The_Law_Boy and Rhiannon @AywaRhiannon.

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.


    Our Sponsors:
    * Check out Mint Mobile and use my code mintmobile.com/fivefour for a great deal: https://www.mintmobile.com
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    Loper Bright Enterprises v. Raimondo Jul 30, 2024
    Show notes

    Barbie doesn't have shit on John Roberts. Now that he's killed off Chevron deference, Roberts can be an aircraft safety inspector, biomedical researcher, highway planner, nutritionist, Atlantic herring fishing boat monitor ... the possibilities are endless!


    If you're not a 5-4 Premium member, you're not hearing every episode! To get first dibs on live show tickets, dig into our Premium episode catalog, join our Slack community, and more, subscribe at fivefourpod.com/support.


    5-4 is presented by Prologue Projects. Rachel Ward is our producer. Leon Neyfakh and Andrew Parsons provide editorial support. Our researcher is Jonathan DeBruin, and our website was designed by Peter Murphy. Our artwork is by Teddy Blanks at Chips NY, and our theme song is by Spatial Relations.


    Follow the show at @fivefourpod on most platforms. On Twitter, find Peter @The_Law_Boy and Rhiannon @AywaRhiannon.

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.


    Our Sponsors:
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    Snyder v. United States Jul 16, 2024
    Show notes

    We once again revisit the idea that a bribe is only a bribe if it's in a pillowcase with a dollar sign on it, or from a check with "in exchange for illegal favors" on the memo line.


    If you're not a 5-4 Premium member, you're not hearing every episode! To get first dibs on live show tickets, dig into our Premium episode catalog, membership in our Slack community, and more, join at fivefourpod.com/support.


    5-4 is presented by Prologue Projects. Rachel Ward is our producer. Leon Neyfakh and Andrew Parsons provide editorial support. Our researcher is Jonathan DeBruin, and our website was designed by Peter Murphy. Our artwork is by Teddy Blanks at Chips NY, and our theme song is by Spatial Relations.


    Follow the show at @fivefourpod on most platforms. On Twitter, find Peter @The_Law_Boy and Rhiannon @AywaRhiannon.

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.


    Our Sponsors:
    * Check out Mint Mobile and use my code mintmobile.com/fivefour for a great deal: https://www.mintmobile.com
    * Check out Quince and use my code FIVEFOUR for a great deal: https://www.quince.com
    Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
    United States v. Rahimi Jul 09, 2024
    Show notes

    This case includes descriptions of domestic violence. Please take care while listening.


    If you're not a 5-4 Premium member, you're not hearing every episode! To get first dibs on live show tickets, dig into our Premium episode catalog, membership in our Slack community, and more, join at fivefourpod.com/support.


    5-4 is presented by Prologue Projects. Rachel Ward is our producer. Leon Neyfakh and Andrew Parsons provide editorial support. Our researcher is Jonathan DeBruin, and our website was designed by Peter Murphy. Our artwork is by Teddy Blanks at Chips NY, and our theme song is by Spatial Relations.


    Follow the show at @fivefourpod on most platforms. On Twitter, find Peter @The_Law_Boy and Rhiannon @AywaRhiannon.

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.


    Our Sponsors:
    * Check out Mint Mobile and use my code mintmobile.com/fivefour for a great deal: https://www.mintmobile.com
    * Check out Quince and use my code FIVEFOUR for a great deal: https://www.quince.com
    Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
    Trump v. United States Jul 02, 2024
    Show notes

    Take a deep breath. John Roberts just handed Donald Trump the keys to the country and said "don't bother bringing it back in one piece."


    If you're not a 5-4 Premium subscriber, you won't hear that Rahimi episode that we've got planned for next week. Just sayin!


    5-4 is presented by Prologue Projects. Rachel Ward is our producer. Leon Neyfakh and Andrew Parsons provide editorial support. Our researcher is Jonathan DeBruin, and our website was designed by Peter Murphy. Our artwork is by Teddy Blanks at Chips NY, and our theme song is by Spatial Relations.


    Follow the show at @fivefourpod on most platforms. On Twitter, find Peter @The_Law_Boy and Rhiannon @AywaRhiannon.

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.


    Our Sponsors:
    * Check out Mint Mobile and use my code mintmobile.com/fivefour for a great deal: https://www.mintmobile.com
    * Check out Quince and use my code FIVEFOUR for a great deal: https://www.quince.com
    Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
    Garland v. Cargill Jun 25, 2024
    Show notes

    Citing Urban Dictionary and wikiHow*, Clarence Thomas argues that a gun that can kill hundreds of people with a single trigger pull is not a machine gun.


    *Not actually true but those are the vibes.


    If you're not a 5-4 Premium member, you're not hearing every episode! To get first dibs on live show tickets, dig into our Premium episode catalog, membership in our Slack community, and more, join at fivefourpod.com/support.


    5-4 is presented by Prologue Projects. Rachel Ward is our producer. Leon Neyfakh and Andrew Parsons provide editorial support. Our researcher is Jonathan DeBruin, and our website was designed by Peter Murphy. Our artwork is by Teddy Blanks at Chips NY, and our theme song is by Spatial Relations.


    Follow the show at @fivefourpod on most platforms. On Twitter, find Peter @The_Law_Boy and Rhiannon @AywaRhiannon.



    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.


    Our Sponsors:
    * Check out Mint Mobile and use my code mintmobile.com/fivefour for a great deal: https://www.mintmobile.com
    * Check out Quince and use my code FIVEFOUR for a great deal: https://www.quince.com
    Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
    Alexander v. South Carolina NAACP Jun 18, 2024
    Show notes

    The Court is back at again, pretending like they don't understand politics, while handing conservatives a victory that cements their power in South Carolina.


    To buy tickets for our DC show, head here:

    https://www.seetickets.us/event/5-4-live/604614


    To buy tickets for our NYC show head here:

    https://www.eventbrite.com/e/5-4-live-tickets-912709608007


    If you're not a 5-4 Premium member, you're not hearing every episode! To hear the entire Premium archive, first dibs on live show tickets, access to our Slack community, and more, join at fivefourpod.com/support.


    5-4 is presented by Prologue Projects. Rachel Ward is our producer. Leon Neyfakh and Andrew Parsons provide editorial support. Our researcher is Jonathan DeBruin, and our website was designed by Peter Murphy. Our artwork is by Teddy Blanks at Chips NY, and our theme song is by Spatial Relations.


    Follow the show at @fivefourpod on most platforms. On Twitter, find Peter @The_Law_Boy and Rhiannon @AywaRhiannon.



    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.


    Our Sponsors:
    * Check out Mint Mobile and use my code mintmobile.com/fivefour for a great deal: https://www.mintmobile.com
    * Check out Quince and use my code FIVEFOUR for a great deal: https://www.quince.com
    Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
    "The Constitution Includes Everybody" Live at Harvard Law School Jun 11, 2024
    Show notes

    Harvard invited us back (so that's on them) to talk about the speciousness of originalism, inclusive constitutionalism, and how to get serious about court reform. Featuring Balls and Strikes' Madiba Dennie, author of The Originalism Trap: How Extremists Stole the Constitution and How We the People Can Take It Back (out now!) and Ryan Doerfler of Harvard Law School.


    To get access to this and other Premium-only episodes, membership in our Slack community, first dibs on live show tickets, and more, join at fivefourpod.com/support.


    5-4 is presented by Prologue Projects. Rachel Ward is our producer. Leon Neyfakh and Andrew Parsons provide editorial support. Our researcher is Jonathan DeBruin, and our website was designed by Peter Murphy. Our artwork is by Teddy Blanks at Chips NY, and our theme song is by Spatial Relations.


    Follow the show at @fivefourpod on most platforms. On Twitter, find Peter @The_Law_Boy and Rhiannon @AywaRhiannon.

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.


    Our Sponsors:
    * Check out Mint Mobile and use my code mintmobile.com/fivefour for a great deal: https://www.mintmobile.com
    * Check out Quince and use my code FIVEFOUR for a great deal: https://www.quince.com
    Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
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