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ArcTanGent and Damnation organisers, James Scarlett and Gavin McInally, discuss the good, the bad and the downright ridiculous of promoting festivals.

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Suffering for Salvation May 30, 2024

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Not all events are booked the same.
Some promoters enjoy a professionally packaged tour arriving on their doorstep, others don't mind the challenge of luring over bands who rarely play and then there's Damnation, who want artists to dust off old records and perform them as a world exclusive sets in Manchester.
Problem is, that's as time consuming, expensive and as difficult as it sounds.
But in the end, is it worth all it?

We go again, every Thursday morning.

Tour Tales & Trees Clashes May 23, 2024

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There weren’t too many clashes at 2000trees that raised an eyebrow, but the ones that did raised an army!
What kind of cruel world forces you to choose between Bob Vylan and Palm Reader? Are they being serious about Gaslight Anthem and Better Lovers? Surely Sean McGowan and The Sleeping Souls is a twisted joke and you’re misreading Frank Turner clashing with Lonely The Brave, right? Right?
The man behind the plan, Mr James Scarlett, takes his licks and explains all... even manages to put one fire out.
We also discuss the Forest sets. How it’s decided who plays twice. The ‘TBAs’ and James’ masterplan to one day rope Biffy Clyde into playing.
This is our love letter to 2000trees.
But before all that, Gav has some tour tales to share and owns up to why he’ll likely never be a tour manager.

We go again, every Thursday morning.

Riders May 16, 2024

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The humble catering rider, which surely started life as a simple hot meal for touring band members, has morphed beyond all recognition to a sprawling wishlist, often with no rhyme or reason.
Seasoned headline acts can ask for so little while fresh-faced tour supports demand so much, but what MUST be provided and who decides where to draw the line?
Like most things in this industry... it's complicated.
James and Gav share their experiences, from 24 McDonald's cheeseburgers to "Gollum Juice", and how they handle the infamous rider.

We go again, every Thursday morning.

The Great Merch Debate May 09, 2024

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One viral photo of Gojira's merch list prices - including an £80 hoodie - sparked a row that refuses to die and lifted the lid on the murky world of merch concessions at venues and festivals.
But is it as black and white as greedy venues or promoters dipping their hands into the pockets of hard working bands, or is there a more nuanced conversation to be had about what services are provided in return, from a toilet tour to a major outdoors festival?
Do all events approach the issue in the same manner and even if you offer artists a free merch table, would they prefer to pay?
We get in about it all.
**NOTE: There was a connection issue which led to a small section of buffering video and audio being edited out.
Discussed was price fixing when headliners force support bands to charge the same prices as them, which ATG, 2000trees and Damnation don't endorse or agree with.
And the huge increase in raw merch costs: Damnation paid £3.66 for tee reprints in 2021 and £16.93 for tee reprints in 2023.**

We go again, every Thursday morning.

Lessons Learned May 02, 2024

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As the old saying goes, you learn from your mistakes, but that doesn't make those mistakes any easier to deal with!
From bogged down loos, stages with no stage managers, the importance of building a team and what weather you can survive and what weather you can't... Gav and James relive some horrors from down the years.
And what do we want to see in a band's press pack?

We go again, every Thursday morning.

Why was Opeth's set cut short? - Q&A 2 Apr 25, 2024

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In the second of our monthly Q&A bonus pods, we try to get through as many burning questions as possible.
Our biggest triumphs and screw ups? How has Brexit impacted attracting bands? What happens to our festivals if one of us is hit by a bus? Have we ever been held to ransom by a greedy band?
And why didn't Opeth play their full set length at ATG last year?
We answer them all.

We go again, every Thursday morning.

Clashfinder Confessions: ATG Apr 25, 2024

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The ArcTanGent stage times are out and everyone has been colour coding their digital day plans and having a social media rant about the decisions they've been forced to make.
But what does the man responsible for the clashes, which can make or break your weekend, have to say for himself?
How did Clown Core and Author & Punisher find themselves pitted against each other? Is Torpor at 11am on the final day really a bright idea? And do fans really want to see both Amenra and Tokky Horror?
James finally breaks his silence...

We go again, every Thursday morning.

Headliners of The Future Apr 18, 2024

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Green Lung, Creeper, Brutus, Malevolence, Zeal & Ardor, Bob Vylan, Dinosaur Pile Up, Bleed From Within, Boston Manor... all names we hope to see headline our festivals in the future.
But what does it take to get there and why does the path to the top of the bill seem so clear at 2000trees, yet so complicated at ATG and Damnation?
Gav and James also have a bash at booking a stage for the other's festival, from the sublime (We Lost The Sea and Tomb Mould) to the ridiculous (Moon Tooth?) .
And there's Blanket and The Moth Gatherer and Meryl Streek and Pig Destroyer and Anaal Nathrakh and Spirit Adrift and...
This is our fanboy episode.

We go again, every Thursday morning.

Cancelled Festivals & The Near-Death of Damnation Apr 11, 2024

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21 UK festivals have been cancelled or postponed so far this year with up to 100 at risk without Government support, according to the The Association of Independent Festivals.
It's grim reading, so how are ArcTanGent, Damnation and 2000trees coping in this brutal landscape and what can be done to help the situation?
Gav and James have a plan and it involves you!

We go again, every Thursday morning.

Breaking Bands Apr 04, 2024

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Bob Vylan to Din of Celestial Birds, Idles to Amenra... have our festivals helped "break" bands to a larger audience in their scenes and if so, is that important to us or a byproduct of the job?
Gav and James get in about it.

We go again, every Thursday morning.

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