Stay Connected“We all have two lives. The second begins the moment we realize we have only one.”
Stories of people who have faced darkness and how those moments transformed them.
2 Lives is hosted and written by Laurel Morales. Valerie Shively is the assistant producer. Pod art and website designed by Christian Arnder, music from Blue Dot Sessions.
Copyright: © 2021
TW: We describe a violent situation in this episode. If you or someone you know is experiencing domestic violence go to thehotline.org or call 1-800-799-SAFE (7233).
Darcy Alexandra course corrects and unlearns the violent messages and behaviors she was taught as a child.
2 Lives "The second begins the moment we realize we have only one."
2 Lives is created by Laurel Morales. Camila Kerwin of the Rough Cut Collective edited this episode, which originally dropped in February of 2022. Valerie Shively is the assistant producer. Christian Arnder is our illustrator and website designer. Music from Blue Dot Sessions.
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This is a conversation with wilderness guide Scout Wilkins about resilience of the natural world, trees specifically, and how she has found her own resiliency by being a part of it.
2 Lives "The second begins the moment we realize we have only one."
2 Lives is created by Laurel Morales. Valerie Shively is the assistant producer who reported this episode. Christian Arnder is our illustrator and website designer. Music from Blue Dot Sessions.
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Rattled by the loss of a loved one and how little she knew about death, Sairey Luterman found her true calling as an end of life counselor to help others be more prepared.
2 Lives "The second begins the moment we realize we have only one."
2 Lives is created by Laurel Morales. Valerie Shively is the assistant producer. Christian Arnder is our illustrator and website designer. Music from Blue Dot Sessions.
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TW: Mention of suicide.
Rachel Zients Schinderman helps people heal through storytelling because that is how she and her mom dealt with her dad's death by suicide, but she's learned to make way for new stories.
2 Lives "The second begins the moment we realize we have only one."
2 Lives is created by Laurel Morales. Valerie Shively is the assistant producer. Christian Arnder is our illustrator and website designer. Music from Blue Dot Sessions.
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Jeff Morris has made it his mission to prevent suicide after he attempted to kill himself six times but it wasn't until he received a bipolar 2 diagnosis and figured out how to manage instead of cure his depression that he learned how to live.
2 Lives "The second begins the moment we realize we have only one."
2 Lives is created by Laurel Morales. Valerie Shively is the assistant producer. Christian Arnder is our illustrator and website designer. Music from Blue Dot Sessions.
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2 Lives "The second begins the moment we realize we have only one."
For most of her life Viki Stein has struggled to learn so much that she became a teacher to help other kids who felt frustrated and dumb. It wasn't until age 53 that she learned that she had dyslexia and became better trained to understand herself and help others like her.
2 Lives is created by Laurel Morales. Valerie Shively is the assistant producer. Christian Arnder is our illustrator and website designer. Music from Blue Dot Sessions.
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At 31 a psychiatrist finally solved the mystery inside Joan Kopczynski and told her she could manage her mental illness. But first she had to reconcile a series of traumatic events that would plague anyone with or without schizoaffective disorder.
2 Lives "The second begins the moment we realize we have only one."
2 Lives is created by Laurel Morales. Valerie Shively is the assistant producer. Christian Arnder is our illustrator and website designer. Music from Blue Dot Sessions.
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2 Lives "The second begins the moment we realize we have only one."
Anna Runkle calls herself the crappy childhood fairy and has helped a million people deal with their Complex PTSD. But it took 11 therapists and dozens of self help books before she found a name for what she has and a practice that worked.
2 Lives is created by Laurel Morales. Valerie Shively is the assistant producer. Christian Arnder is our pod art illustrator and website designer. Music from Blue Dot Sessions.
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We had planned to launch season 11 today with a new episode. But at the last minute the guest we interviewed asked us to hold off.
At 2 Lives we share the script with the person we interview before the story is finalized to make sure we got everything right. We do that for two reasons: one, because I'm often asking people to share their worst day and I want them to feel comfortable with the way we share it. And two, because the same courtesy was shown to me when I was featured in a newspaper and I caught an error. We all make mistakes. I've been told by other journalists that this practice is "radical," but these aren't investigative exposés of corrupt political leaders, these are people's most vulnerable personal stories and heartfelt truths.
I thought this might be an opportunity to share with you another practice we have and that is in the pre interview with assistant producer Valerie Shively she makes sure people are in the right time in their life to share their story. And before every interview I say, while sharing stories can be therapeutic, I am not a therapist. What I ask and share might be triggering. I also say there are seasons when we are more open to sharing our stories. And there are seasons when we are closed. Obviously this was one of those for our guest; she just didn't realize it.
At a time when it's so easy to click submit and share and over share on social media in an effort to sell our book or our brand, I think we often don't listen to that voice inside that's saying NO don't do it. This thing you're about to exploit, we haven't gotten enough distance from it yet. It feels too raw to share.
At 2 Lives, our intention to shine a light on stories of transformation is governed by the principle that these stories shared are symbiotic in nature, mutually beneficial for both the teller and the listener. We don't share a person's story unless they really want to share it. We honor that, even if it is to our own detriment. And those ethics are more important than numbers.
So when today's guest asked that we not share at the last minute, although we were disappointed, we understood, and saw it as a perfect opportunity to reflect on the importance of ethics in storytelling. The importance of an internal moral code that helps us live above the numbers, especially when things don't go our way.
So instead of a 2 Lives episode, I'm sharing with you an episode of a podcast we love called Ladies of Lore. On this most consequential Election Day, we thought we'd give you a break from the noise by casting a wink and a nod to all the ancient female powerhouses throughout time and space.
2 Lives "The second begins the moment we realize we have only one."
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