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Marc B. Shapiro: Where Does Orthodox Judaism Come From? [Denominations 4/5] Jun 04, 2024

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This series is sponsored by Joel and Lynn Mael in memory of Estelle and Nysen Mael.
In this episode of the 18Forty Podcast, we talk to author and historian Dr. Marc B. Shapiro about the blurry borders that distinguish Reform, Conservative, yeshivish, Modern Orthodox, and the many other Jewish sects from one another.
We take today’s Jewish denominational and cultural differences for granted, but they were not inevitable. Moments in history formed our sects, and Dr. Shapiro helps us unpack them. In this episode we discuss:

How did the Conservative movement diverge from Orthodoxy?
Where did the “yeshiva world” come from?
How have Jews historically maintained friendship despite denominational divisions?

Tune in to hear a conversation about Jews’ tangled relationship between ideology and lived experience.
Interview begins at 13:36
Dr. Marc B. Shapiro holds the Weinberg Chair in Judaic Studies at the University of Scranton. Marc received his PhD from Harvard, and he is the author of numerous books, articles, and reviews, including Between the Yeshiva World and Modern Orthodoxy, The Limits of Orthodox Theology, and Changing the Immutable: How Orthodox Judaism Rewrites Its History.
References:
Halacha Headlines
Between the Yeshiva World and Modern Orthodoxy by Marc B. Shapiro
Saul Lieberman and the Orthodox by Marc B. Shapiro
Changing the Immutable by Marc B. Shapiro
Marc B. Shapiro on The Seforim Blog
Judith Berlin Lieberman: Autobiography and Reflections edited by Menachem Butler and Abraham Lieberman
A Few Good Men
Toras HaNazir by Rav Hutner
Iggerot Malkhei Rabanan by Marc B. Shapiro
Orthodox Jews in America by Jeffrey S. Gurock
Reading Jewish History in the Parsha with David Bashevkin
All Parsha
The Book And The Sword by David Weiss Halivni
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Jack Wertheimer: A New American Judaism? The Sociology of Jewish Practice [Denominations 3/5] May 28, 2024

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This series is sponsored by Joel and Lynn Mael in memory of Estelle and Nysen Mael.
In this episode of the 18Forty Podcast, we talk to Jack Wertheimer, a professor of American Jewish History at JTS, about the radical transformations of American Jewish practice over the last century.
We can’t understand the Jewish People without a sobered look at what happens in our synagogues, homes, and communities. We can talk about a movement’s ideological ideals, but amid those discussions we cannot ignore the on-the-ground realities of a community’s practice. In this episode we discuss:

How does a Jewish movement’s "lived religion" differ from its stated ideals?
What is the cost of radical inclusivity?
What misconceptions do Orthodox and non-Orthodox Jews have about each other?

Tune in to hear a conversation about what Judaism means for us in our current time.
Interview begins at 28:28.
Dr. Jack Wertheimer is a leading thinker and professor of American Jewish History at the Jewish Theological Seminary of America. He is the former provost of JTS, and was the founding director of the Joseph and Miriam Ratner Center for the Study of Conservative Judaism. Jack has written and edited numerous books and articles on the subjects of modern Jewish history, education, and life. He won the National Jewish Book Award in the category of Contemporary Jewish Life in 1994 for A People Divided: Judaism in Contemporary America.
References:
“Sometimes Mashiach Is Not the Solution” by Aaron Lopiansky
“Politics and the Yeshivish Language” by Cole S. Aronson
The New American Judaism by Jack Wertheimer
A People Divided: Judaism in Contemporary America by Jack Wertheimer
Sliding to the Right: The Contest for the Future of American Jewish Orthodoxy by Samuel C. Heilman
Contemporary American Judaism: Transformation and Renewal by Dana Kaplan
“What Jewish Denominations Mean to Me” by David Bashevkin
Michtav Me'Eliyahu by Rabbi Eliyahu Dessler
The 18Forty Podcast: “Rabbi Dr. Haym Soloveitchik: The Rupture and Reconstruction of Halacha”
“Shomer Yisroel” by Omek Hadavar
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Ammiel Hirsch: 'What Did We Do Wrong?' Peoplehood and the Reform Movement [Denominations 2/5] May 21, 2024

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This series is sponsored by Joel and Lynn Mael in memory of Estelle and Nysen Mael.
In this episode of the 18Forty Podcast, we talk to Rabbi Ammiel Hirsch, senior rabbi of Stephen Wise Free Synagogue and a leader of the Reform Movement, about the way Jewish Peoplehood is understood among the non-Orthodox majority of American Jews.
Rabbi Hirsch is known in the Reform Movement and beyond for his decades-long staunch commitment to Jewish Peoplehood. We recorded this interview before Oct. 7, and especially considering Rabbi Hirsch’s leadership on issues related to Zionism, a follow-up conversation with him will follow shortly. In this episode we discuss:

Where should the State of Israel fit into our priorities as a people?
How has Reform Judaism course-corrected its views on Jewish Peoplehood over time?
How can we be a unified people when we can’t always agree on who is a Jew?

Tune in to hear a conversation about how we might improve the state of interdenominational relations.
Interview begins at 19:50.
Rabbi Ammiel Hirsch is a leader of the Reform Movement. He is the senior rabbi of Stephen Wise Free Synagogue and former executive director of the Association of Reform Zionists of America/World Union for Progressive Judaism, North America. He wrote two books: The Lilac Tree: A Rabbi's Reflections on Love, Courage, and History (2023) and One People, Two Worlds: A Reform Rabbi and an Orthodox Rabbi Explore the Issues That Divide Them (2003), which he co-authored with Rabbi Yaakov Yosef Reinman.
References:
One People, Two Worlds: A Reform Rabbi and an Orthodox Rabbi Explore the Issues That Divide Them by Ammiel Hirsch and Yaakov Yosef Reinman
The Impostor by Avner Gold
18Forty Podcast: “Altie Karper: When a Book Is Banned”
“The Believer” by Armin Rosen
“Dissent in the Reform Ranks” by Armin Rosen
The Lilac Tree: A Rabbi's Reflections on Love, Courage, and History by Ammiel Hirsch
The Book of Jewish Values: A Day-by-Day Guide to Ethical Living by Joseph Telushkin
“Who Can Be Called Rabbi?” by Gil Student
“Shomer Yisroel” by Omek Hadavar
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Zev Eleff: Is This the End of American Judaism? [Denominations 1/5] May 14, 2024

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This series is sponsored by Joel and Lynn Mael in memory of Estelle and Nysen Mael.
In this episode of the 18Forty Podcast, we begin our Denominations series by talking to Zev Eleff—historian, author, and the president of Gratz College—about the development of the denominations of Judaism we have in America today.
We’ve been occupied for months with defending our right to be Jews in America, so perhaps this is the right time to return to considering the purpose of the Jewish lives we want to live. In this episode we discuss:

How did America’s Jewish “denominations”—better termed “movements”—as we know them come to be?
What have the different Jewish movements each contributed to American Jewish life?
How can we get back to not just fighting antisemitism, but uncovering the meaning of our Judaism?

Tune in to hear a conversation about how previous generations of American Jews have handled the issues that, to one degree or another, threatened to divide us.
Interview begins at 49:36.
Rabbi Dr. Zev Eleff is the president of Gratz College. Zev is the author and editor of nine books and more than 50 scholarly articles in the fields of Jewish Studies and American Religion, including Modern Orthodox Judaism: A Documentary History, Dyed in Crimson: Football, Faith, and Remaking Harvard's America, and Authentically Orthodox: A Tradition-Bound Faith in American Life. Zev’s research focuses on American Jewish history, sports, and Modern Orthodox history.
References:
Jonathan Haidt on The Daily Show
Ammi Hirsch on Campus Chaos
“Failure Goes to Yeshivah: What I’ve Learned From the Failure Narratives of My Students” by David Bashevkin
Authentically Orthodox: A Tradition-Bound Faith in American Life by Zev Eleff
The Birth of Conservative Judaism by Michael Cohen
American Judaism by Jonathan D. Sarna
The Jews of the United States, 1654 to 2000 by Hasia R. Diner
Jew Vs Jew: The Struggle For The Soul Of American Jewry by Samuel G. Freedman
This Is My God by Herman Wouk
Jewish Continuity in America by Abraham J. Karp
18Forty Podcast: “Halacha as a Language”
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Rachel Goldberg-Polin: A Hostage’s Mother Fighting for His Freedom [Divergence 5/5] Apr 20, 2024

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Our Intergenerational Divergence series is sponsored by our friends Sarala and Danny Turkel.
In this special episode of the 18Forty Podcast, we talk to Rachel Goldberg-Polin—whose son, Hersh, was kidnapped by Hamas and is still held hostage in Gaza—about heading into Passover with our loved ones still captive.
Normally, Intergenerational Divergence feels like something of a choice. But now, Jewish families have been split apart by force. In this episode we discuss:

How do we foster a continued connection to the members of our family who are missing?
What difficult thoughts and questions will we bring to the Seder table this year?
What does it mean to express hope via the Pesach Seder amid these bitter times?

We hope wholeheartedly that this conversation about missing our children at the time of Passover will be made irrelevant and the hostages will soon return home.
Interview begins at 7:17.
References:
“One Tiny Seed” by Rachel Goldberg-Polin
“To the Boys in the Room” by Rachel Goldberg-Polin
Sefer HaMenucha on Mishneh Torah, Leavened and Unleavened Bread 8:2
“A Prayer for Israel To Add to Your Pesach Seder” by Yosef Zvi Rimon
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A Haredi Mother Sending Her Children To Serve [Divergence 4/5] Apr 16, 2024

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Our Intergenerational Divergence series is sponsored by our friends Sarala and Danny Turkel.
In this episode of the 18Forty Podcast, we talk to a Haredi mother named Dina about her two children who serve in the IDF, one of whom was critically wounded in the current war.
Oct. 7 accelerated the already-complicated conversation about Haredi service in the army. Here, Dina shares with us her first-hand experience as a mother of chayalim. In this episode we discuss:

What is it like being in the Haredi minority of IDF parents—and what is it like being one of the comparatively few IDF parents in the Haredi community?
What is the experience of religiously raised soldiers remaining observant in the army?
What is it like for a mother to send her son into battle?

Tune in to hear a conversation about how we might, as Dina puts it, be machmir about how we relate to others.
Interview begins at 7:16.
References:
“A Mother’s Miracle” by Sara Bonchek
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Finding a Home for Haredi IDF Soldiers [Divergence 3/5] Apr 09, 2024

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Our Intergenerational Divergence series is sponsored by our friends Sarala and Danny Turkel.
This episode is sponsored by the incredible organization Osey Chail, a non-profit organization serving lone soldiers from Haredi and Hasidic homes who are serving in the IDF.
In this episode of the 18Forty Podcast, we talk to four Haredi soldiers who served in the IDF about breaking from family and communal expectations by enlisting, and the subsequent Intergenerational implications.
We also speak with Yael Ruzievich of the “adoptive family” of lone soldier David Mittelman, who was killed on Oct. 7. Hashem yikkom damo. In this episode we discuss:

How do soldiers from the Haredi world relate to their parents after joining the IDF?
What does the “adoptive family” of a Haredi lone soldier look like?
How can we do more for those who make immense sacrifices to defend the Jewish People?

Tune in to hear a conversation about how to handle divisive debates—such as Haredim enlisting for Israeli military service—as a unified Jewish family.
First soldier interview begins at 16:47.
Second soldier interview begins at 26:06.
Interview with Yael Ruzievich begins at 50:46.
Third soldier interview begins at 1:32:01.
Fourth soldier interview begins at 1:40:45.
Haredi soldiers are in a difficult place, often struggling with a lack of social and familial support, due to their community’s stance on army service. The organization Osey Chail fills this gap, supporting soldiers from Haredi backgrounds with kosher food, foster families, apartments, and unity events, among other programs. We’re honored to speak to Haredi soldiers who were part of Osey Chail, as well as families that adopted them.
References:
Shomer Yisrael
Osey Chail
נגמר by Idan Amedi
Donate Dog Tags
Donate Toward Mittelman Park
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Haskel and Josh Lookstein: Finding Your Path in a Rabbinic Dynasty [Divergence 2/5] Apr 02, 2024

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Our Intergenerational Divergence series is sponsored by our friends Sarala and Danny Turkel.
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In this episode of the 18Forty Podcast, we sit down with an intergenerational rabbinic pair: Rabbi Haskel Lookstein and his son, Rabbi Joshua Lookstein.
Following in the footsteps of a successful parent can involve a crushing degree of pressure. In the Jewish world, perhaps the quintessential case of this is the challenge of being the scion of a prominent rabbinic family (what some might call a “dynasty”). In this episode we discuss:

How did family, friends, and congregants react to Joshua leaving the family pulpit?
How can children find agency amid family expectations?
How do leaders of Jewish institutions manage the most foundational Jewish institution: the family?

Tune in to hear a conversation about how we can grapple wisely with professional divergence across generations.
Interview begins at 12:53.
Rabbi Dr. Haskel Lookstein is the Rabbi Emeritus of Kehilath Jeshurun in Manhattan, where he served most of his entire rabbinic career. He was also the principal of the Ramaz School from 1966 through 2015. R. Lookstein has been highly involved in leadership in the Jewish community for decades. He serves as the Joseph H. Lookstein Professor of Homiletics at Yeshiva University, where he has taught since 1979. He also serves as a Vice President of the Bet Din of America.
Rabbi Joshua Lookstein is the Associate Head of School at the Ramaz School. Rabbi Lookstein previously served as the Head of School at Westchester Day School and a Major Gifts Officer at UJA-Federation of New York, and as Executive Director of the S. Daniel Abraham Foundation. Rabbi Lookstein is responsible for ensuring the values of the school are sustained throughout a student’s education.
References:
“The Lookstein Legacy: An American Orthodox Rabbinical Dynasty?” by Adam S. Ferziger
The Shawshank Redemption
Why We Sleep by Matthew Walker
This episode is sponsored in honor of Robert and Sandy April, loyal congregants and students of Rabbi Lookstein for many years. May they continue to learn from Rabbi Lookstein's lessons and actions for many years to come.
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Rachel Yehuda: Intergenerational Trauma and Healing [Divergence 1/5] Mar 26, 2024

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This series is sponsored by our friends Sarala and Danny Turkel.
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In this episode of the 18Forty Podcast, we pivot to Intergenerational Divergence by talking to Rachel Yehuda, a professor of psychiatry and neuroscience, about intergenerational trauma and intergenerational resilience.
In many ways, Oct. 7 reactivated a sense of Jewish trauma that many of us had never experienced in our lifetimes. And yet, it was a feeling that we somehow felt we were returning to as Jews. In this episode we discuss:

How does trauma get passed on across generations?
How do the Jewish holidays teach us to cultivate resilience from within trauma?
How can the Jewish community be more adept at handling traumatic events?

Tune in to hear a conversation about how, together, we find the courage to continue.
Interview begins at 11:01.
Dr. Rachel Yehuda is a professor of psychiatry and neuroscience, the vice chair for veterans affairs in the psychiatry department, and the director of the traumatic stress studies division at the Mount Sinai School of Medicine. Dr. Yehuda also established and directs the Center for Psychedelic Psychotherapy and Trauma Research. Dr. Yehuda’s research on second-generation Holocaust survivors, showing the epigenetic effects of trauma across generations, has made her a seminal figure in the field of intergenerational trauma and resilience.
References:
“The Rabbi vs. the Jewish People” by David Bashevkin
“Yonatan Adler: What Archeologists Find”
“Hazon Ish on Textual Criticism and Halakhah” by Zvi A. Yehuda
“Hazon Ish on the Future of the State of Israel” by Zvi A. Yehuda
The Body Keeps the Score: Brain, Mind, and Body in the Healing of Trauma by Bessel van der Kolk
Trauma and Recovery: The Aftermath of Violence—from Domestic Abuse to Political Terror by Judith Herman
“Resilience definitions, theory, and challenges: interdisciplinary perspectives” by Rachel Yehuda and more
“What We Talk About When We Talk About Anne Frank” by Nathan Englander
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Yael Muskat and Martin Galla: Entering Adulthood: Inside a College Counseling Center Mar 19, 2024

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Our mental health series is sponsored by Terri and Andrew Herenstein.
In this episode of the 18Forty Podcast, we wrap up our mental health series by talking to Dr. Yael Muskat, director of Yeshiva University’s Counseling Center, and her longtime colleague Dr. Martin Galla about the mental health challenges at the forefront of early adulthood.
Young people in the Jewish community are not immune from today’s mental health crisis. They have their own, equally pressing versions of those same problems. In this episode we discuss:

How do experts deal with the mental health of college students “in between” childhood and adulthood?
What mental health challenges to the Jewish world in particular need to address?
How can young adults handle the mental health turmoil that can come with dating?

Tune in to hear a conversation about how we can get to a place where sound mental health enables spiritual growth.
Interview with Dr. Muskat begins at 7:13.
Interview with Dr. Galla begins at 55:46.
Dr. Yael Muskat, Psy.D., is the Director of the Counseling Center at Yeshiva University and has over 20 years of clinical experience. After graduating from Yeshiva University, she received a Master’s in Special Education from Columbia University and a Doctorate in Clinical Psychology from Long Island University, C.W. Post. Dr. Muskat continued her clinical training by completing a Post Doctorate Leadership Fellowship at Westchester Institute for Human Development.
Dr. Martin Galla is a former associate director at the Yeshiva University Counseling Center, where he worked for 13 years.
References:
Hold Me Tight: Seven Conversations for a Lifetime of Love by Sue Johnson
The Body Keeps the Score: Brain, Mind, and Body in the Healing of Trauma by Bessel van der Kolk
The Mindfulness Workbook for OCD: A Guide to Overcoming Obsessions and Compulsions Using Mindfulness and Cognitive Behavioral Therapy by Jon Hershfield and Tom Corboy
Einstein's Dreams by Alan Lightman
Berakhot 12b
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