Blackhawk Church Next Steps

Made for More - Discovering Joy Through Serving Jul 24, 2025

Join host Veronica Hummel as she sits down with Scott Heller to explore what it means to invest your time as part of our "Made for More" series. Scott shares his journey of grief, healing, and spiritual growth— starting from showing up quietly in the back row to becoming deeply involved in serving others at Blackhawk. Through stories from Alpha, Blackhawk Kids, and Study Day, Scott reflects on how prayer, community, and service have helped him discover new joy and purpose. He offers practical encouragement for anyone hesitant to take their next step into serving, sharing how small commitments can lead to meaningful community and spiritual growth.

Referenced Resources:

Made for More Series | Blackhawk Church

Have questions or topics you'd like us to explore in future episodes? We'd love to hear from you! Reach out to us at podcast@blackhawkchurch.org.

Made for More - Living Generously Jul 17, 2025

Join host Veronica Hummel as she sits down with CJ Klaas and Ranjit Mathai to explore what it looks like to live generously as part of our "Made for More" series. Drawing from their personal experiences and years of teaching financial courses at Blackhawk, CJ and Ranjit offer practical wisdom and spiritual insight into managing money with intentionality and trust in God. They share their own journeys of learning to give, navigating debt, and discovering the freedom that comes from generous living. Whether you're getting started or looking to grow, this honest conversation offers practical steps and spiritual encouragement for living generously

Referenced Resources:

Made for More Series | Blackhawk Church

Have questions or topics you'd like us to explore in future episodes? We'd love to hear from you! Reach out to us at podcast@blackhawkchurch.org.

Made for More - The Journey of Knowing Yourself Jul 10, 2025

Join host Veronica Hummel as she sits down with Amy Racki, a therapist and longtime Blackhawk member, to explore what it means to truly know ourselves as part of our "Made for More" series. Amy shares her journey from a corporate business background to mental health counseling and discusses practical tools for self-discovery, including personality assessments and spiritual practices such as prayer and meditation. They explore learning to embrace discomfort in the transformation process, finding community that speaks truth in love, and discovering what's "mine to do" in each season of life.

Referenced Resources:

Made for More Series | Blackhawk Church

Have questions or topics you'd like us to explore in future episodes? We'd love to hear from you! Reach out to us at podcast@blackhawkchurch.org.

Made for More - Finding Your Rhythm with God Jul 03, 2025

Join host Veronica Hummel as she sits down with Linda Hershberger to explore practical ways to slow down and connect with God as part of our "Made for More" series. Linda shares her journey from being a natural extrovert to learning the art of being present through practices like silence, journaling, time in nature, and welcoming prayer. She opens up about how cancer became a turning point in her faith, offering honest insights into building community, finding your tribe, and discovering spiritual practices that work for your unique personality.

Referenced Resources:

Made for More Series | Blackhawk Church

The Artist’s Way | Julia Cameron

Walking with Jesus – Speed Bumps on the Journey | Blackhawk Next Steps Podcast

Growing in Awareness of God and Self with Adam and Alicia Penning | Blackhawk Next Steps Podcast

Have questions or topics you'd like us to explore in future episodes? We'd love to hear from you! Reach out to us at podcast@blackhawkchurch.org.

Revelation Unpacked: Your Questions Answered Apr 10, 2025

Join hosts Tiffany Malloy and Chris Kopp as they sit down with Pastors Chris Dolson and Charles Yu to answer your questions about the book of Revelation. This episode addresses topics such as scrolls, seals, judgment, and the mark of the beast, helping to clarify the confusion surrounding the End Times. Whether you find this book confusing or fascinating, you'll gain practical insights about how this story speaks to being a Christ-follower in today’s world.

Referenced Resources:

Once Upon a Future (Revelation) Series | Blackhawk Church

Culture Making: Recovering Our Creative Calling | Andy Crouch

Have questions or topics you'd like us to explore in future episodes? We'd love to hear from you! Reach out to us at podcast@blackhawkchurch.org.

Exploring the End Times: Millenium, Tribulation, and Rapture – Oh My! Mar 16, 2025

Join hosts Tiffany Malloy and Chris Kopp as they sit down with Pastor Chris Dolson to explore the End Times, including the Millenium, Tribulation, Rapture, and more. Ultimately, does it really matter? What should we take away from studying these concepts?

Referenced Resources:

Once Upon a Future (Revelation) Series |Blackhawk Church

Evangelical Theology: A Biblical and Systematic Introduction |Michael Bird

Surprised by Hope: Rethinking Heaven, the Resurrection, and the Mission of the Church |N.T. Wright

The Rise and Fall of Dispensationalism: How the Evangelical Battle over the End Times Shaped a Nation |Daniel G. Hummel

Have questions or topics you'd like us to explore in future episodes? We'd love to hear from you! Reach out to us at podcast@blackhawkchurch.org.

Understanding Hell and Judgement Mar 11, 2025

Join hosts Tiffany Malloy and Chris Kopp as they sit down with Pastor Chris Dolson to explore the challenging topics of hell and judgement - what it is and isn’t, and how we might square our view of God as loving and good with the idea of Hell.

Referenced Resources:

Once Upon a Future (Revelation) Series | Blackhawk Church

Evangelical Theology | Michael Bird

Erasing Hell: What God Said about Eternity, and the Things We've Made Up | Francis Chan + Preston Sprinkle

Confronting Christianity: 12 Hard Questions for the World's Largest Religion | Rebecca McLaughlin

Have questions or topics you'd like us to explore in future episodes? We'd love to hear from you! Reach out to us at podcast@blackhawkchurch.org.

What Happens When We Die? Feb 27, 2025

Join hosts Tiffany Malloy and Chris Kopp as they sit down with Pastor Chris Dolson to explore what the Bible says about life after death and the promise of eternal life with Jesus.

Referenced Resources:

Once Upon a Future (Revelation) Series | Blackhawk Church

Have questions or topics you'd like us to explore in future episodes? We'd love to hear from you! Reach out to us at podcast@blackhawkchurch.org.

The Book of Revelation and The Invisible Realm – with Pastor Charles Yu Feb 20, 2025

Join hosts Tiffany Malloy and Chris Kopp as they sit down with Pastor Charles Yu to explore the invisible realm and how the book of Revelation shows us that there’s more going on around us than meets the eye.

Referenced Resources:

Once Upon a Future (Revelation) Series | Blackhawk Church

The Invisible Realm Series | Blackhawk Church

The Unseen Realm: Recovering the Supernatural Worldview of the Bible | Michael S. Heiser

Intro to Spiritual Beings | BibleProject

Have questions or topics you'd like us to explore in future episodes? We'd love to hear from you! Reach out to us at podcast@blackhawkchurch.org.

Navigating Relationships in the Empty Nest and Retirement Stages Feb 04, 2025

Join Christian Eggers and guest Carmen Boyd as she shares her personal journey, joys, and challenges of relationships in the empty nest and retirement stage of life.

Reading Revelation Differently with Chris Dolson Feb 02, 2025

On this episode, Tiffany and Chris sit down with Pastor Chris Dolson to discuss how he started to read Revelation differently some time ago, and what the book has to offer us underneath all the weirdness and chaos.

Want to contact us? Email us at podcast@blackhawkchurch.org.

Additional Resources:

Once Upon a Future Resource page

Navigating Relationships in Your 20s and 30s Jan 23, 2025

In this episode we hear from Christian Eggers and Sam Peterson about the joys, challenges and nuances of relationships in your 20s and 30s.

Additional Resources:

Stronger Together Resource page

Building Deeper Friendships as Men Jan 21, 2025

In this episode we hear from CJ Klaas and John Reis about the impact of spiritual friendships on their lives and why it’s important for everyone, but specifically men, to follow God in community.

Additional Resources:

Stronger Together Resource page

Money Examen Prayer | 4.29.2024 Apr 29, 2024

The Money Examen Prayer is a resource connected to the Money Talks sermon series. Use this examen prayer to reflect on your heart’s relationship to money.

Question & Response with Charles Yu | 2.22.24 Feb 22, 2024

For this season’s last podcast episode, Veronica and Michael ask questions that you, listeners wrote in for Charles Yu.

Additional resources related to this week’s episode:

Under Construction Resource Page - https://blackhawk.church/resources/under-construction/

If you have questions you’d like us to answer on the next episode, submit them to podcast@blackhawkchurch.org

The Exclusive Claims of Jesus | 2.15.24 Feb 15, 2024

Navigating the exclusive claims of Jesus can be a complicated and intimidating process. Join Veronica and Michael this week as they share what this process has looked like for them, as well as other bold claims that Jesus made.

Additional resources related to this week’s episode:

Under Construction Resource Page - https://blackhawk.church/resources/under-construction/

If you have questions you’d like us to answer on the next episode, submit them to podcast@blackhawkchurch.org

What if I Disagree with the Bible? | 2.8.24 Feb 08, 2024

At some point or another, all of us can find ourselves disbelieving in different parts of the Bible. This week, Veronica + Michael share about their own journey of navigating disbelief, the road to reconstruction that they took, as well as normalizing this process.

Additional resources related to this week’s episode:

Under Construction Resource Page - https://blackhawk.church/resources/under-construction/

Rooted Message Series -

https://blackhawk.church/message/rooted-in-god/

If you have questions you’d like us to answer on the next episode, submit them to podcast@blackhawkchurch.org

Faith & Science | 2.1.24 Feb 01, 2024

The relationship between faith and science has been a challenge to navigate for many. In this week’s episode, Veronica and Michael talk about personal experiences, and then Michael interviews Chris Dolson and Rick Lindroth as they dig deeper into this larger conversation than they were able to during the Sunday message.

Additional resources related to this week’s episode:

Under Construction Resource Page - https://blackhawk.church/resources/under-construction/

If you have questions you’d like us to answer on the next episode, submit them to podcast@blackhawkchurch.org

Suffering | 1.25.24 Jan 25, 2024

It’s not if we will experience suffering, but when. Join Michael and Veronica as they talk about suffering: How God is with us, the importance of moving towards community in suffering, how to navigate someone else’s suffering well, and so much more!

Additional resources related to this week’s episode:

Under Construction Resource Page - https://blackhawk.church/resources/under-construction/

Related Podcast Episode: Walking With Jesus Through Suffering https://player.captivate.fm/episode/60647804-b1f6-4636-b422-84ff447f3166

If you have questions you’d like us to answer on the next episode, submit them to podcast@blackhawkchurch.org

What if I Love Jesus but Struggle with Christians? | 1.18.24 Jan 18, 2024

“What if I Love Jesus but Struggle with Christians?” is a reality that all of us have had to navigate, whether we consider ourselves a part of the Christian “family” or not. Join Michael and Veronica as they talk about what it could look like to move towards health as a Christian family and how hurt is inevitable; but when we choose to love God and love others and navigate hurt intentionally, big things can happen in our lives and in our community.

Additional resources related to this week’s episode:

Under Construction Resource Page - https://blackhawk.church/resources/under-construction/

If you have questions you’d like us to answer on the next episode, submit them to podcast@blackhawkchurch.org

Under Construction | 1.11.24 Jan 11, 2024

Deconstruction and reconstruction is a natural process that all of us will encounter in one way or another when it comes to our faith. Digging deeper after Sunday’s message, join Michael and Veronica as they talk about different areas of deconstruction and reconstruction in their own life, and what it could look like for Blackhawk to go under construction well.

Additional resources related to this week’s episode:

Under Construction Resource Page - https://blackhawk.church/resources/under-construction/

If you have questions you’d like us to answer on the next episode, submit them to podcast@blackhawkchurch.org

Live This Book – Q & R with Charles Yu Jun 29, 2023

On this surprise episode, Tiffany and Chris sit down with Charles Yu as he answers some of the questions you all sent in from our Live This Book series.

Want to contact us? Email us at podcast@blackhawkchurch.org.

Walking with Jesus – Finishing Well | 4.13.23 Apr 13, 2023

We wrap up our Walking with Jesus series by talking to Pastor Emeritus Chris Dolson about his transition from senior pastor to pastor emeritus, what faith has looked like for him in the second half of life, and what it might mean for him to “finish well.”

Have a question or want to reach out to us? Email us at podcast@blackhawkchurch.org.

Walking with Jesus – Through Suffering | 4.6.23 Apr 06, 2023

This week is Holy Week, and Chris is joined by Pastor Anne Kierce and Sarah Stevens to hear more of Sarah’s story and what it’s looked like on her faith journey to walk through seasons of suffering.

If you have questions you’d like us to answer on the next episode, submit them to podcast@blackhawkchurch.org.

Walking with Jesus – Speed Bumps on the Journey | 3.30.23 Mar 30, 2023

This week we’re joined by Heather Watts, our Responsive Care Coordinator and a spiritual director in training. We’ll talk about common speed bumps on the journey of faith, how to help someone else who’s struggling, and ways we can navigate the speed bumps in our lives.

Reach out to us at podcast@blackhawkchurch.org

Walking with Jesus – Seasons of Faith | 3.23.23 Mar 23, 2023

Tiffany and Chris talk through some of the different seasons of faith we might walk through on the journey of faith. Listen in as they tell stories about initially following Jesus, hitting walls along the way, and what it’s looked like to continue on the path.

Reach out to us at podcast@blackhawkchurch.org

Walking with Jesus – Spiritual Practices | 3.16.23 Mar 16, 2023

Pastor Daniel Owen joins Tiffany and Chris to talk about the practices God uses in our lives to form and shape us. Some of them will be really familiar, and others might come as a surprise! Listen in…

Reach out to us at podcast@blackhawkchurch.org.

Walking with Jesus – The Things that Form Us | 3.9.23 Mar 09, 2023

How do we change and grow? Who brings that transformation? Us? God? And how do we even know if we’re growing to become more like Jesus? What would that look like? Join us as we take a deep dive into the topic of spiritual formation this week!

If you have questions you’d like us to answer on the next episode, submit them to podcast@blackhawkchurch.org.

Walking with Jesus | 3.2.23 Mar 02, 2023

This week, Tiffany and Chris kick off the Walking with Jesus mini-series by talking about what’s ahead over the next five weeks, including what “spiritual formation” is all about, why this mini-series, and why now.

If you have questions you’d like us to answer on the next episode, submit them to podcast@blackhawkchurch.org.

Living as Exiles | 2.16.23 Feb 16, 2023

Pastor Adam Penning joins Tiffany and Chris this week to talk about the similarities we share with the Israelite exiles who were living in a foreign land and what we can learn from them as we engage with a culture around us that doesn’t always share our worldview and values.

Additional resources related to this week’s episode:

Live This Book Resource Page - https://blackhawk.church/live-this-book/ .

If you have questions you’d like us to answer on the next episode, submit them to podcast@blackhawkchurch.org.

A Different Perspective on Justice | 2.2.23 Feb 02, 2023

Often when we have conversations about justice, that conversation centers on white majority culture and what WE think about justice, how we can help those around us, etc. And that’s really helpful. We SHOULD be talking about how we can love and serve those around us and address the injustice we see. But the conversation around justice is much different when you’re talking with those who’ve been marginalized and disadvantaged in some way. Justice is good news. It brings hope. In this week’s episode, Chris and Christian sit down with Pastor Colier McNair to discuss how predominantly black churches might engage with the topic of justice.

Additional resources related to this week’s episode:

Live This Book Resource Page - https://blackhawk.church/live-this-book/ .

If you have questions you’d like us to answer on the next episode, submit them to podcast@blackhawkchurch.org.

An Introduction to Lent | 1.26.23 Jan 26, 2023

Lent is the season leading up to Easter that Christians have used for centuries to fast, pray, and prepare ourselves for Easter Sunday. This week, Chris and Veronica are joined by Amy Hauptman to talk about the season of Lent, how we’ve all engaged in that season, and some ideas for how to dive in yourself.

Additional resources related to this week’s episode:

Live This Book Resource Page - https://blackhawk.church/live-this-book/ .

If you have questions you’d like us to answer on the next episode, submit them to podcast@blackhawkchurch.org.

Should We Still Follow the Law Today? | 1.13.23 Jan 13, 2023

Chris and Tiffany are joined by Pastor Charles Yu to dig further into the topic of the Ten Commandments, the Law, how God uses the Law to create a new culture for His people, and which laws we should still follow today.

Additional resources related to this week’s episode:

Live This Book Resource Page - https://blackhawk.church/live-this-book/ .

If you have questions you’d like us to answer on the next episode, submit them to podcast@blackhawkchurch.org.

New Year’s Resolutions and Connecting with God | 1.5.23 Jan 05, 2023

Chris and Tiffany are joined by Veronica Hummel, our Associate Director of Spiritual Formation, to talk about New Year’s Resolutions and some of the rhythms and practices that help them connect with God and be formed by Him.

Additional resources related to this week’s episode:

Live This Book Resource Page - https://blackhawk.church/live-this-book/ .

Courses – https://blackhawk.church/courses

If you have questions you’d like us to answer on the next episode, submit them to podcast@blackhawkchurch.org.

Partnership Prayer | 11.24.22 Nov 24, 2022

Pastor Charles Yu join us this week to dig deeper into his message on partnership prayer. Have a Happy Thanksgiving!

Additional resources related to this week’s episode:

Live This Book Resource Page - https://blackhawk.church/live-this-book/

If you have questions you’d like us to answer on the next episode, submit them to podcast@blackhawkchurch.org.

Singleness and Life in the Church | 11.17.22 Nov 17, 2022

This week, Christian Eggers, our Associate Director of Young Adults Ministry, and Michael Knapstad, our Pastor of College-Age Ministry and Internships join the podcast to talk about what it’s like to be single in the Church, and ways we can better love and include single people in our own community.

Additional resources related to this week’s episode:

Live This Book Resource Page - https://blackhawk.church/live-this-book/

If you have questions you’d like us to answer on the next episode, submit them to podcast@blackhawkchurch.org.

What is Advent? | 11.10.22 Nov 10, 2022

Rachel Chancellor, our Director of Blackhawk Kids, joins us this week to talk about all things Advent. What is the season of Advent? And what are some ways we can press into this season to prepare our hearts for Jesus’ arrival?

Additional resources related to this week’s episode:

Live This Book Resource Page - https://blackhawk.church/live-this-book/

Advent Page – https://blackhawk.church/advent

If you have questions you’d like us to answer on the next episode, submit them to podcast@blackhawkchurch.org.

BONUS EPISODE – Climate Change Discussion with Dr. Rick Lindroth and Chris Dolson | 11.8.22 Nov 08, 2022

In this bonus episode, we’re releasing part of the conversation Pastor Chris Dolson had with longtime Blackhawk Church member, Dr. Rick Lindroth, as part of our Science and Faith course. Dr. Lindroth has a PhD in Ecology and has spent most of his career as a professor at the University of Wisconsin-Madison. In this conversation, they discuss what science says about climate change, ways we can make a difference, and whether there’s hope for a better future.

Additional resources related to this week’s episode:

Live This Book Resource Page - https://blackhawk.church/live-this-book/

If you have questions you’d like us to answer on the next episode, submit them to podcast@blackhawkchurch.org.

Caring for Creation | 11.03.22 Nov 03, 2022

Hannah (our Director of Worship Arts) and Will Busse join the podcast to talk about how they’ve learned about different environmental issues and what their family of five is doing to care for creation.

Additional resources related to this week’s episode:

Live This Book Resource Page - https://blackhawk.church/live-this-book/

If you have questions you’d like us to answer on the next episode, submit them to podcast@blackhawkchurch.org.

Adam and Eve and Coughing Attacks | 10.27.22 Oct 27, 2022

This week Tiffany and Chris answer questions from this past Sunday, reflect on what’s stood out up to this point in our Live This Book series, and give an update on what’s ahead on the podcast.

Additional resources related to this week’s episode:

Live This Book Resource Page - https://blackhawk.church/live-this-book/

If you have questions you’d like us to answer on the next episode, submit them to podcast@blackhawkchurch.org.

Marriage, Divorce, and Singleness | 10.13.22 Oct 13, 2022

This week, Matt Metzger and Charles Yu join the podcast to answer your questions about marriage, divorce, and singleness.

Additional resources related to this week’s episode:

Live This Book Resource Page - https://blackhawk.church/live-this-book/

If you have questions you’d like us to answer on the next episode, submit them to podcast@blackhawkchurch.org.

Recovering the Image of God | 10.06.22 Oct 06, 2022

This week, Pastor Charles Yu joins the podcast to dig deeper into the idea that we’re made in “the image of God.” If that’s true, how can we lean into that reality and be renewed and transformed to more fully reflect the image of God to those around us?

Additional resources related to this week’s episode:

Live This Book Resource Page - https://blackhawk.church/live-this-book/

If you have questions you’d like us to answer in the next episode, submit them to podcast@blackhawkchurch.org.

Is Science Compatible with Faith? | 09.29.22 Sep 29, 2022

This week, Pastor Chris Dolson and Jeff Hardin, a professor in integrative biology at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, join us for a conversation about science and faith.

Additional resources related to this week’s episode – Live This Book Resource Page - https://blackhawk.church/live-this-book/

If you have questions you’d like us to answer in the next episode, submit them to podcast@blackhawkchurch.org.

“I Don’t Know What to Do with My Hands” | 09.22.22 Sep 22, 2022

Pastor Matt Metzger joins the podcast this week to talk more about some of the different ways we can connect with God. Then listen in to the Q & A section at the end as we talk more about the reading plans that are available and how to use them.

Additional resources related to this week’s episode – Live This Book Resource Page - https://blackhawk.church/live-this-book/ // “Sacred Pathways,” by Gary Thomas

If you have questions you’d like us to answer in the next episode, submit them to podcast@blackhawkchurch.org.

Behind the Curtain of Live This Book | 09.15.22 Sep 15, 2022

Pastor Charles Yu joins the podcast this week to peek behind the curtain of the Live This Book series – why this series, why now, what we hope God does over the next nine months, and what to do when you disagree with the Bible.

Additional resources related to this week’s episode – Live This Book Resource Page https://blackhawk.church/resources/live-this-book/ // “Misreading Scripture Through Western Eyes” book // “Reading While Black” book // “The Word of God” podcast episode from The Holy Post

If you have questions you’d like us to answer in the next episode, submit them to podcast@blackhawkchurch.org.

PREVIEW: Next Steps Relaunch | 09.11.22 Sep 11, 2022

We’re back! And this fall we’ll be doing weekly podcasts as we follow along with the Live This Book series. Listen to this preview episode to hear what we’ll be up to starting later this week, and be sure to subscribe to the new podcast channel.

If you have questions you’d like us to answer about the new series or Charles’ message on Sept 11, submit them to podcast@blackhawkchurch.org and we’ll answer some of them on the next episode.

Next Steps // How Are You Being Formed? | 04.20.2022 Apr 20, 2022

This week, Tiffany and Chris are joined by Daniel Owen and Lynne Benik to talk about the ways they’re being formed and what books, podcasts, practices, and people God is using in their lives to shape and mold them.

Questions or comments? Email us at podcast@blackhawkchurch.org

Next Steps // FreedUp – Group Preview | 03.23.22 Mar 23, 2022

Stressed or anxious about finances? Tiffany and Chris talk with guest Tim Schiefelbein about an upcoming group opportunity called “FreedUp” that can help guide and equip us to manage money in healthier ways through Biblical wisdom.

To sign up for FreedUp, head to Blackhawk.church/groups.

Questions or comments? Email us at podcast@blackhawkchurch.org

Next Steps - Evangelism – The Missional Context in Madison with Dr. Christopher James - 12.22.2021 Dec 22, 2021

Listen in as Tiffany and Chris talk with Dr. Christopher James, the Associate Professor of Evangelism and Missional Christianity at the University of Dubuque Theological Seminary. We’ll talk about the missional context here in Madison and Dane County, and some of innovative things churches are doing to love their neighbors well.

9:38 – An “ecology of churches” working together in Madison //

16:27 – Madison’s “post-Christian” context //

20:46 – What Madison’s changing context means for mission //

24:28 – “Come and See” vs. “Go and Be” //

28:29 – The city of Madison compared to surrounding rural areas //

35:13 – Some of the innovative things churches are doing to love their neighbors //

46:42 – What do you hope is true of the churches in Madison 10-20 years from now? //

51:22 – What Tiffany hopes is increasingly true of Blackhawk Church in the future //

Visit Dr. James’ website at chrisbjames.com.

Next Steps - Evangelism – A Conversation with Matt Metzger – Part Two - 12.15.2021 Dec 15, 2021

This week we continue with part two of our conversation with Pastor Matt Metzger and get really practical as we talk about approaches to sharing our faith and what motives us to share the Good News with others.

1:04 – Turning the conversation toward spiritual topics //

7:56 – Practical ways to communicate the gospel and the power of sharing our stories //

12:55 – What motivates you to share your faith? //

Next Steps // Evangelism – A Conversation with Matt Metzger – Part One | 12.08.2021 Dec 08, 2021

Listen in as Tiffany and Chris talk with Pastor Matt Metzger about what it’s looked like for him to share his faith and how we can invest in relationships with those around us. Then join us next week for the second half of this conversation.

5:20 – Matt talks about what evangelism has looked like in his own life //

12:08 – Investing in relationships with people in our lives //

18:38 – How we might pursue relationships with people outside the church //

Questions or comments? Email us at podcast@blackhawkchurch.org

Next Steps // Evangelism – What is It? Part Two | 12.01.2021 Dec 01, 2021

In part two of this conversation, Pastors Chris Kopp, Daniel Owen, and Adam Penning talk about some of the reasons they tend to shy away from evangelism, what motivates them to share their faith, and the perception in our culture that it’s inappropriate to tell people about Jesus.

1:04 – Reasons we shy away from sharing our faith //

4:52 - Is evangelism inappropriate? //

12:35 – What motivates you to tell people about Jesus? //

20:05 – What is Alpha? //

If you would like to be notified when registration opens for Alpha, fill out this form: https://my.blackhawkchurch.org/portal/get_form.aspx?id=5e9fd389-0d30-43fe-a9b0-f4f46b7b5890.

Email us at podcast@blackhawkchurch.org

Next Steps // Evangelism – What is It? | 11.24.2021 Nov 24, 2021

The Next Steps podcast is BACK! In part one of this conversation, Pastors Chris Kopp, Daniel Owen, and Adam Penning talk about the idea of evangelism, misconceptions surrounding it, and what it can look like. Join us next week for the rest of the conversation.

For more resources, check out https://www.blackhawkchurch.org/resources-tools/

Email us at podcast@blackhawkchurch.org

Next Steps // Rooted Q & R – Jesus’ Return | 09.09.2021 Sep 09, 2021

This week, we answer questions about Jesus’ return, whether we all need to agree on a specific end times theory, and we wrap up the Rooted series. If you have follow-up questions from today’s episode, email us at podcast@blackhawkchurch.org.

Next Steps // Rooted Q & R – Heaven and Hell | 09.01.2021 Sep 01, 2021

This week, we answer questions about Heaven and Hell and the shape of eternity. Thanks for sending in your questions! Due to the amount of questions we received, we weren’t able to cover all of them, but we’ll try to respond to as many of your emails as possible. If you have follow-up questions from today’s episode, email us at podcast@blackhawkchurch.org.

If it would be helpful for you to talk with someone from our Care team about the recent loss of a loved one or anything else that these topics have brought up for you, please reach out to us or visit our Care page at https://www.blackhawkchurch.org/connect/care-resources/.

Next Steps // Rooted Q & R – Living Like Jesus | 08.25.2021 Aug 25, 2021

This week, we answer questions about what it could look like not just to know ABOUT God but to know Him relationally, how God molds us and shapes us to more fully love others and care for the poor and oppressed, and what it might look like in 2021 to make disciples in each of our lives.

Next Steps // Rooted Q & R – Church | 08.18.2021 Aug 18, 2021

This week, we answer questions about what it could look like to be “rooted in the Church,” whether gathering with a few friends is the same thing as attending a local church, and what to do to find community in a large church.

Email us at podcast@blackhawkchurch.org

Next Steps // Rooted Q & R – Holy Spirit | 08.11.2021 Aug 11, 2021

This week, we answer questions about who the Spirit is in relation to God the Father and Jesus, we talk about how to discern if you’re hearing from the Spirit, and what to do in seasons where it’s hard to feel the Spirit’s presence in our lives.

Email us at podcast@blackhawkchurch.org

Next Steps // Rooted Q & R – The Cross | 08.04.2021 Aug 04, 2021

This week, we answer questions about why sin leads to death, why Jesus had to die on the Cross, and how the Cross might impact our lives on a daily basis.

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Next Steps // Rooted Q & R - Jesus | 07.28.2021 Jul 28, 2021

This week, we answer questions about what it might look like to live submitted to Jesus’ lordship in a sinful world, how to continue to grow in our surrender to Christ, and what helpful accountability can look like.

Next Steps // Rooted Q & R - Humanity | 07.21.2021 Jul 21, 2021

This week, we answer questions about what it means to be created in the image of God, the extent to which that image has been tarnished in us, and would it could look like to reflect God’s image in 2021.

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Next Steps // Rooted Q & R – The Bible | 07.14.2021 Jul 14, 2021

This week, we answer questions about the Bible, including what we mean when we say that it’s “verbally inspired,” and “without error in the original writings,” and we discuss what to do when we disagree with something in Scripture.

For more resources, check out https://www.blackhawkchurch.org/resources-tools/rooted/

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Next Steps // Rooted Q & R - God | 07.07.2021 Jul 07, 2021

This week, we answer questions about the nature of God, including why he chose to create humanity, how nature and science can reveal God to us, and what to do with Old Testament passages linking God to violence and genocide.

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Next Steps // Interview with Chris and Becky Dolson | 06.16.2021 Jun 16, 2021

This week, we sit down with Pastor Chris and his wife Becky to reflect on their 27 years at Blackhawk Church. They tell stories about doing backflips in the middle of the street, how they work on sermons together, and what they’re looking forward to in this next season. Don’t miss it!

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Next Steps // Families Leaving COVID-Land | 06.09.2021 Jun 09, 2021

This week, we talk with several other parents about how they’ve navigated COVID as a family, mental health, and some of the things from this past season that they’ll seek to hold onto.

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Next Steps // Rule of Life and Spiritual Rhythms | 05.19.2021 May 19, 2021

This week, Pastors Tiffany Malloy and Chris Kopp talk with C.J. Klaas and John Reis about how they’ve used a tool called a Rule of Life to “rebuild differently.”

Resources mentioned in this episode:

“The Ruthless Elimination of Hurry,” John Mark Comer // “You Are What You Love,” James K.A. Smith // “The Road Back to You,” Ian Morgan Cron // www.practicingtheway.org // Rule of Life Workbook: https://tinyurl.com/hw29wbpd

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Next Steps // Deconstruction and Doubt – Part Two | 04.28.2021 Apr 28, 2021

This week, Pastors Tiffany Malloy, Michael Knapstad, and Chris Kopp continue in their conversation about doubt and deconstruction, share their own stories of deconstruction, and give some encouragement to those that might be in a similar season right now.

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Next Steps // Deconstruction and Doubt – Part One | 04.21.2021 Apr 21, 2021

This week, Pastors Tiffany Malloy, Michael Knapstad, and Chris Kopp talk about doubt and deconstruction, what can cause those seasons, and the fact that it’s entirely normal and healthy for Christ-followers to go through these stages of faith. Then join us next week for the second part of this conversation.

Music by Travis Agnew and Chris Kopp

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Next Steps // Galatians - Prayer of Examen | 03.31.2021 Mar 31, 2021

To help us grow more self-aware and more aware of how God has been present in our lives, Chris Kopp leads us through a short Prayer of Examen.

Music by Travis Agnew and Hansoo Kim

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Next Steps // Galatians Devotional-Walk By The Spirit | 03.24.2021 Mar 24, 2021

Tiffany Malloy leads us through a lectio divina practice focused on Galatians 5:13-16.

Music by Travis Agnew and Hansoo Kim

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Next Steps // Galatians Devotional – Freedom in Christ | 03.17.2021 Mar 17, 2021

Lynne Benik leads us through a lectio divina practice focused on Galatians 5:1-6.

Music by Travis Agnew and Hansoo Kim

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Next Steps // Galatians Devotional – Love for Others | 03.10.2021 Mar 10, 2021

Jimmy Bero leads us through a lectio divina practice focused on Galatians 4:12-16.

Music by Travis Agnew and Hansoo Kim

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Next Steps // Galatians Devotional – Adopted into the Family | 03.03.2021 Mar 03, 2021

Hannah Busse leads us through a lectio divina practice focused on Galatians 3:26-29.

Music by Travis Agnew and Hansoo Kim

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Next Steps // Galatians Devotional – Blessed and Invited | 02.24.2021 Feb 24, 2021

Galatians Devotional – Blessed and Invited

Next Steps // Galatians Devotional – Crucified with Christ | 02.17.2021 Feb 17, 2021

Ben Knox leads us through a lectio divina practice focused on Galatians 2:20.

Music by Travis Agnew and Hansoo Kim

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Next Steps // Galatians Devotional – Transformed by the Gospel | 02.10.2021 Feb 10, 2021

Daniel Owen leads us through a lectio divina practice focused on Galatians 1:22-24.

Music by Travis Agnew and Hansoo Kim

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Next Steps // Galatians Devotional – The Rescue | 02.03.2021 Feb 03, 2021

Galatians Devotional – The Rescue

Next Steps // SNEAK PEEK Galatians Series Resources | 01.27.2021 Jan 27, 2021

Get a sneak peak at what’s ahead on the podcast over the next couple months as well as some other exciting resources for our Galatians series.

Resources mentioned in this episode:

Galatians Series Resource Page - http://www.blackhawkchurch.org/resources-tools/galatians/

*Theme music by Travis Agnew

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Next Steps // Dealing with Anxiety and Raising Healthy Kids // With Michelle Owen | 01.20.2021 Jan 20, 2021

This week we talk with Michelle Owen, a licensed counselor and member of Blackhawk Fitchburg, about dealing with anxiety and how to help our kids stay mentally and emotionally healthy.

Resources mentioned in this episode:

Blackhawk Church Care Page - http://www.blackhawkchurch.org/connect/care-resources/

Care Groups - http://www.blackhawkchurch.org/groups-spring-2021/#CARE

What to do When You Worry Too Much: A Kid's Guide to Overcoming Anxiety by Dawn Huebner. https://www.dawnhuebnerphd.com/worry-too-much-overcoming-anxiety/.

Try Softer by Aundi Kolber

Get Out of Your Head by Jennie Allen

*Theme music by Travis Agnew

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Next Steps // Self-Care in a Pandemic // With Sandra Malone | 01.13.2021 Jan 13, 2021

This week we talk with Sandra Malone from our Care team about how to be attentive to our mental, emotional, spiritual, and physical health, and the importance of engaging in self-care.

Resources mentioned in this episode:

Blackhawk Church Care Page - http://www.blackhawkchurch.org/connect/care-resources/ // Care Groups - http://www.blackhawkchurch.org/groups-spring-2021/#CARE

*Theme music by Travis Agnew

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Next Steps // A Conversation on Lament // With Chris Dolson and Colier McNair | 01.06.2021 Jan 06, 2021

This week we talk with Pastors Chris Dolson and Colier McNair about the practice of lament, its important throughout the history of the Black Church, and what it can look like in our own lives.

Resources mentioned in this episode:

Blackhawk Church Next Steps Blog - blog.blackhawkchurch.org/ // Aaron Niequist (A New Liturgy) - Lament Practice - www.anewliturgy.com/no-7-lament

*Theme music by Travis Agnew

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Next Steps // Advent Experience - Love | With Dustin and Andrea Pence | 12.23.2020 Dec 23, 2020

Dustin and Andrea Pence, two of our worship and prayer volunteers at Blackhawk Church, take us through an Advent prayer experience that will help us center our hearts on Jesus and the love that he has for us.

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Next Steps // Advent Experience - Joy | With Dustin and Andrea Pence | 12.16.2020 Dec 16, 2020

Dustin and Andrea Pence, two of our worship and prayer volunteers at Blackhawk Church, take us through an Advent prayer experience that will help us center our hearts on Jesus and the joy that he brings.

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Next Steps // Advent Experience - Peace | With Sarah Bianchi | 12.9.2020 Dec 09, 2020

Worship leader Sarah Bianchi takes us through an Advent prayer experience that will help us center our hearts on Jesus and the peace that he brings.

All music written by Sarah Bianchi.

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Next Steps // Advent Experience - Hope | With Sarah Bianchi | 12.2.2020 Dec 02, 2020

Worship leader Sarah Bianchi takes us through an Advent prayer experience that will help us center our hearts on Jesus and the hope that he brings.

All music written by Sarah Bianchi, except “Oh Light” (Gungor and All Sons & Daughters). Closing prayer from “Guerrillas of Grace” by Ted Loder.

Next Steps // Q & A on Race with Pastor Charles Yu | 11.25.2020 Nov 25, 2020

In this special bonus episode, we do a Q & A with Pastor Charles Yu on the topic of race. In this wide-ranging conversation, Charles answers questions about how to define race, systemic racism, Critical Race Theory, Black Lives Matter, Blackhawk’s multi-cultural vision, and the next steps we can take as individuals.

4:40 – Charles’ background, 6:39 - defining race, 12:58 - race as a social construct, 14:43 - systemic racism, 32:25 - the Christian faith’s solution for racial injustice, 37:41 - differences between the social justice movement and the Kingdom of God, 42:35 - critical race theory, 47:18 - Black Lives Matter and BH’s involvement with the rally over the summer, 51:29 - Blackhawk’s multi-cultural vision, 55:49 - How should I proceed as an individual?

Resources mentioned in this episode:

Racism without Racists, Eduardo Bonilla-Silva // Red-lining map website - https://dsl.richmond.edu/panorama/redlining/?fbclid=IwAR1pt-baa0eUWUomJ8BUQPlXiV4dbZEXRXQYwJJXvyUcDb71Ant85GuVdzg#loc=12/43.076/-89.468&city=madison-wi&adview=full&adviewer=sidebar // The Color of Law, Richard Rothstein // Phil Vischer videos – Part One: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGUwcs9qJXY&feature=share&app=desktop, Part Two: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-yun74BJEc&t=277s // Biased, Jennifer Eberhardt // 13th (movie) - https://www.netflix.com/title/80091741 // Race resources on our website - http://www.blackhawkchurch.org/resources // Email Tiffany at tmalloy@blackhawkchurch.org if you’re interested in joining a Race and Faith discussion group! // Contact us at podcast@blackhawkchurch.org. // Music by Travis Agnew

Next Steps // Jesus Changes Everything // With Tom and Becca Whitney | 11.18.2020 Nov 18, 2020

This week we talk with Tom and Becca Whitney who have spent the last four years doing ministry in Angola. They talk about how the person of Jesus has transformed their lives, for Tom, going from an atheist to a Christ-follower, what it’s like to tell people about Jesus for the first time, and why He’s worthy of selling everything and going overseas. Then Chris wraps up the I Am series with an opportunity to reflect on what God has been up to in your life throughout the course of this series.

*Music by Travis Agnew and Hansoo Kim

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Next Steps // Creating Space to Hear from God // With Hannah Busse and Sarah Bianchi | 11.11.2020 Nov 11, 2020

This week we talk with Hannah Busse, our Director of Worship Arts, and Sarah Bianchi, one of our volunteer worship leaders, about how they’ve learned to slow down in order to create space to hear from God over the last several years. At the end, Adam and Alicia Penning take us through an extended Prayer of Examen.

Resources mentioned in this episode:

Invitation to Solitude and Silence, Ruth Haley Barton

*Music by Travis Agnew and Chris Kopp

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Next Steps // Election Reactions & Encouragement // With Matt Metzger and Colier McNair| 11.04.2020 Nov 04, 2020

Today, Chris and Tiffany are joined by Pastors Colier McNair and Matt Metzger to react to the latest election results and to offer a word of hope and encouragement this week. At the end, Chris takes us through a prayer practice that will help us do a little self-care and to pray for our country and church.

Theme music by Travis Agnew. Reflection music: Drone in D by Kevin MacLeod

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Next Steps // Digging Deeper into Politics and Faith // Blackhawk Church Teaching Team | 10.28.2020 Oct 28, 2020

This week we talk with Pastors Chris Dolson, Matt Metzger, and Charles Yu from our teaching team about how to approach voting as a Christ-follower, what to do if neither candidate perfectly aligns with our Christian faith, what they hope will be true of Blackhawk Church in this election season, and more. At the end, Ben Knox leads us through a prayer practice centered on politics that will help us see the candidates as created in the image of God, to pray for them, and to be people of peace.

Resources mentioned in this episode:

The Color of Compromise, Jemar Tisby

To Change the World, James Davison Hunter

Race and Faith Resources - http://www.blackhawkchurch.org/resources/

*Music by Travis Agnew, Chris Kopp, and Hansoo Kim

Next Steps // What About Those Who Never Hear the Gospel // With Chris Dolson | 10.21.2020 Oct 21, 2020

This week we talk with Pastor Chris Dolson about the exclusive nature of Jesus as “the way, truth, and life,” we discuss what the Bible has to say about those who never had a chance to hear the gospel, and he gives an encouragement to those who might be struggling with doubt or questions about God.

Resources mentioned in this episode:

The Reason for God, Timothy Keller - https://www.amazon.com/dp/1594483493/ref=cm_sw_r_tw_dp_x_I00JFbDZ0H726

A Secular Age, Charles Taylor - https://www.amazon.com/dp/0674986911/ref=cm_sw_r_tw_dp_x_vZ0JFbH37BD04

Email us at podcast@blackhawkchurch.org.

*Music by Travis Agnew

Next Steps // Raised to New Life // With Becky Allen | 10.14.2020 Oct 14, 2020

This week we talk with Becky Allen about life after loss and how her view of death and resurrection has been transformed after the loss of her husband. In the second half of the episode, Chris leads us through a re-telling of the story of Lazarus and some of the events leading up to Jesus’ death and resurrection.

Resources mentioned in this episode:

Win the Day Productions - https://winthedaypro.com/

*Theme music by Travis Agnew // Reflection music by Hansoo Kim

Next Steps // Worship in the time of COVID // With Blackhawk Worship Pastors | 10.7.2020 Oct 07, 2020

This week, we talk with Coliér, Travis, and Trevor, a few of our Blackhawk worship pastors, about what it’s looked like for them to remain connected to God and to worship in this COVID season. In the second half of the episode, Hannah Busse (Director of Worship Arts) leads us through a meditation and worship experience centered on John 15.

Resources mentioned in this episode:

We want your feedback! Email us at podcast@blackhawkchurch.org.

Lectio 365 App - https://www.24-7prayer.com/dailydevotional

*Theme music by Travis Agnew // Worship music by Hannah Busse

Next Steps // Spiritual Practices that Help Grow our Desire for God // With Daniel Owen | 9.30.2020 Sep 30, 2020

This week, we talk with Daniel Owen about spiritual practices and rhythms that can help foster an increased appetite for God and grow our relationship with Him, and Daniel, Tiffany, and Chris talk about seasons in their lives where it felt like they’d “hit a wall” and God seemed distant. In the second half of the episode, Tiffany leads us through the story of the Feeding of the 5000 and helps us place ourselves in the crowd with Jesus.

Resources mentioned in this episode:

The Ruthless Elimination of Hurry, John Mark Comer – https://smile.amazon.com/Ruthless-Elimination-Hurry-Emotionally-Spiritually/dp/0525653090/ref=sr_1_1?crid=CZ616KNOX90T

Blackhawk Fitchburg “Spiritual Rhythms” Resources - http://www.blackhawkchurch.org/fitchburg/rhythms/

Next Steps // Growing in Awareness of God and Self // With Adam and Alicia Penning | 09.23.2020 Sep 23, 2020

This week, we talk with Adam and Alicia Penning about the need to slow down and become more aware of God’s presence and what He might be trying to do in our lives. In the second half of the episode, Adam and Alicia lead us in the Prayer of Examen, a guided prayer time that will help us examine our lives and pay attention to how God’s at work.

Resources mentioned in this episode:

Disruptive Witness: Speaking Truth in a Distracted Age, Alan Noble - https://www.amazon.com/Disruptive-Witness-Speaking-Truth-Distracted/dp/083084483X

Music by Travis Agnew

Next Steps // Why Jesus’ Words Matter in 2020 // Interview with Charles Yu | 09.16.2020 Sep 16, 2020

In this episode, we talk with Pastor Charles Yu about why the words of Jesus are so relevant in 2020, Charles shares some personal anecdotes about his own faith journey, and we end with a brief reflection that will help center us on Christ.

Resources mentioned in this episode:

Sign up for a group - www.blackhawkchurch.org/connect/groups/

“I AM” Resources & Tools Page - www.blackhawkchurch.org/i-am/

The King Jesus Gospel, Scot McKnight - www.amazon.com/King-Jesus-Gospel-Original-Revisited/dp/0310531454

Simply Good News, N. T. Wright - www.amazon.com/Simply-Good-News-Gospel-Makes/dp/0062334352

The Bible Project – Check out this video on “The Gospel of the Kingdom” - bibleproject.com/explore/gospel-kingdom/

Or browse their full collection here - bibleproject.com/

Music by Travis Agnew