White People Won't Save You

Ghost Brigade (Feat. Justina Ireland) Oct 30, 2024

Happy Halloween! As scary as the real world is, we figured everyone could use a break and a really dumb movie, so here's 1993's Ghost Brigade. Also known as Grey Knight, Killing Box, and The Lost Brigade this civil war zombie can't even get the "zombie" or "civil war" part right.

Joined by the one and only Justina Ireland (Amazing Spider-Man, Star Wars: The High Republic, Dread Nation) joins us to discuss Ray Wise's questionable relationship with his horse, Cynda Williams as the magical voodoo enslaved woman, and much more!

Justina is the first woman to work on a run of Amazing Spider-Man and you should absolutely pick it up on November 16th! Also check out her website for more books and info!

And you can find us on all the socials (@whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod on IG and TikTok and @white_pod on Twitter) where we'll be dropping more fun stuff in the near future. Take care of yourselves this upcoming week and we'll see you soon.

The Adventures of Huck Finn (Feat Marcus Kwame Anderson and David F. Walker) Oct 09, 2024

Ride with us down the Mississippi as we speak with the award winning duo of David F. Walker and Marcus Kwame Anderson about 1993's The Adventure of Huck Finn and more importantly their new graphic novel reimagining of Mark Twain's classic, Big Jim and The White Boy.

That's right, their new book shifts the perspective to Jim and gives more context to his life and story, literally what we talk about on the podcast each episode. We discuss the Disneyfication of slavery, how their new book fills in Jim's story, and so much more!

You can buy Big Jim and The White Boy wherever books are sold! Preorder now or go to the store on October 15th and grab a copy! Maybe even check out one of these Black bookstores!

You can find more of David's excellent work (like the incredible Bitter Root) at his website. Same for Marcus.

If you like to reach out to us, as always we're at @white_pod on Twitter and at @whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod on IG and Tiktok. Or hit us up at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com

And we'll be back with more in two weeks, including some Halloween themed episodes!

Rebel Ridge Oct 02, 2024

Special episode alert! Today we discuss the new Netflix film Rebel Ridge, very much the kind of movie that inverts our usual films. A movie about civil asset forfeiture doesn't sound too exciting, but there's a lot of good things to be found in this one.

All that said, we do have a few issues which leads to an interesting discussion about white filmmakers tackling Black stories, choices Black actors make in those roles, and more!

Check us out on all the social medias now! @whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod on IG and TikTok and @White_pod on Twitter. We've got some great episodes coming your way soon, specifically a conversation with David F. Walker and Marcus Kwame Anderson, the duo behind the reimagined Huck Finn graphic novel Big Jim and The White Boy.

The Beekeeper (Feat. Julian Lytle) Sep 18, 2024

Bzzz bzz that's the sound of the... Beekepers? Joined by WPWSY All Star Julian Lyltle, we discuss the 2024 breakout hit The Beekeeper.

Jason Statham kicking ass in all his glory, but our real interest here is one Phlyicia Rashad. We wonder what makes this a lowkey savior film, if Jason Statham has ever made a truly bad movie, and much more.

Find Julian wherever you do your social media at @julianlytle and find us on the socials @white_pod on Twitter and at @whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod on IG and TikTok.

We'll back soon with a special episode on Rebel Ridge.

Thunderstruck Sep 04, 2024

And now, starting at white savior, from the university of "who the hell thought this was a good idea", 2014's Thunderstruck!

Truly one of the most puzzling films of the 2010's, Thunderstruck is at once a movie that thought it would make sense to star the notoriously anti-social Kevin Durant but also decided that would be enough (it wasn't, it didn't even make a million at the box office).

We discuss why this kid didn't immediately declare for the NBA draft, who the best hoopers turned actors are, and how exactly did this literal child have a bathroom connected to his room.

Also, we're on all the socials now! Find us on TikTok and IG (whitepeoplewontsaveyou) and you can finally watch our live show from Caveat on Youtube

We'll bee back in two weeks with 2024's The Beekeeper!

The Landlord Aug 22, 2024

Back together again! Cameron was in Baltimore for the week, so this episode was actually done in person, which was much needed because we had a lot to say on this one.

1970's The Landlord might sound good on paper (Hal Ashby, Bill Gunn, Louis Gossett Jr., Beau Bridges) but it plays out like some of the worst mishmash of hippie dreams and racial politics. A nepo baby buys a building in Harlem and...well...

We discuss all the ways this went wrong as well upholding the sanctity of the third level of caucacity.

Youtube is being awful, but we're still trying to upload our live show so hopefully that will be everywhere soon! We also have some fun episodes and guests coming up in the next few weeks, starting with our next episode which covers 4 time Olympic gold medalist Kevin Durant's only foray into acting, Thunderstruck!

Unstoppable Aug 07, 2024

We're back again with one of our greatest living actors, Denzel Washington. This time, it's the 2010 true train story, Unstoppable. Starring opposite Chris Pine along with Rosario Dawson, it's unbelievably the first of Denzel's train duology (Taking of Pelham 123 comes out the following year).

We get into the tricky savior move pulled in this one, the behind the scenes of how Denzel almost wasn't a part of this movie, and much more.

We're trying to figure out how to let Youtube let us upload our live show, they keep striking it for copyright. If you have any tips, hit us up at @white_pod or email us at Whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com

We'll be back in two weeks with one of our worst, 1970's The Landlord.

Stonewall (Feat. Jared McCullough) Jul 25, 2024

Since everyday feels like an historical event in 2024, we decided to go back in time to another, 2015's Stonewall. Joined by Jared McCullough of the Black Geek Energy podcast, we discuss this disaster of a movie by the disaster movie master, Roland Emmerich.

Not only does this movie insert a white man into the middle of a historically Black and Latino uprising, not only does it reduce almost every queer character to stereotypes, not only does it manage to make Marasha P. Johnson a footnote in her own story, but it's has the caucacity to be over two hours with just 10 minutes of riot.

We talk about Emmerich's unbelievably tone deaf comments, how ugly the movie looks, and if we'll ever see the Blade movie.

Follow Black Geek Energy wherever you get your podcasts, and get caught up on everything from MCU to the latest anime, to D&D!

Also, this Friday we'll be releasing our Live episode on Youtube for those who missed it or just want to enjoy it again! Follow us on @white_Pod for the link!

Black and White (1999) Feat. Ben Passmore Jul 11, 2024

Have you ever wanted to see Brooke Shields with dreads? Or here Elijah Wood call another white person "the true nigga"? Or watch 1990's Knicks shooting guard Allan Houston act? Well 1999's Black and White has all this and more.

A truly baffling film, we take the long winding road through all of the insane moments of this film.. From one of craziest death scenes caught on film, to a lot of white people with questionable hair and accents, to what the hell all of Wu-Tang was doing in this movie.

Shout-out to Ben, a truly incredible artist and a good friend. His upcoming book Black Arms to Hold You Up about armed Black armed resistance is coming out next fall is, so be on the lookout for that. In the meantime, follow him on IG at @daygloayhole for more comics and conversation.

Our recorded live show is dropping on Youtube next week, so be on the lookout for that! And be sure to reach out to us at @white_pod on Twitter and at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com

We'll be back in two weeks with pod favorite Denzel Washington in one of two train movies in his filmography, 2010's Unstoppable!

Black and White (Feat. KT of For Your Reference) Jun 26, 2024

Sometimes you gotta pop out and...you know the rest. We're so excited to welcome the amazing KT of the For Your Reference podcast to come on and discuss a savior from down under, 2002's Black and White.

Did Cameron watch an entirely different film called Black and White? Yes. Did both have white people saying crazy things? Also yes. We discuss how the savior trope persists across countries, aboriginal representation in film, and the UK's sexiest man.

The For Your Reference pod is one of our faves, and should be one of yours too! From interviews to film reviews to just great conversations, please, please, check them out! Find them at @foryourefpod on the socials and check out their linktree.

As for us, our Mummy live show is going to be on Youtube soon, so please stay tuned for that! We're also doing the rounds for guests, so if you have suggestions, always feel free to hit us up at @white_pod or at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com

We'll be back in two weeks with...Black and White (Cameron's version).

Amos and Andrew Jun 12, 2024

You ever see a movie poster and think, "nah that can't be real"? This is one of them. Amos and Andrew(?) starring Samuel L. Jackson(?!) and Nicholas Cage(!?!) is a buddy movie all about some bullshit. With a double dose of Blackface and a sprinkling of racial slurs, we have a textbook case of why we do this podcast.

We also ask, is the buddy race comedy ever good, talk about the original Amos and Andy, and get into a triple dose of caucasity this week!

If you missed our final live show, stay tuned for news on how to watch it! As always, hit us up at @white_pod and at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com! We'll back in two weeks with our first of two movies titled Black and White!

WPYSY LIVE! (The Mummy Feat. Aileen Clark) May 29, 2024

We're live! Coming to you from Caveat in NYC, we pulled out all the stops for the last live show of the spring. Joined by pod favorite Aileen Clark (of Uy Que Horror!) we discuss everyone's horny fave, 1999's The Mummy.

The Millennial classic turned 25 and we have a lot of thoughts. From if hotness determined your survival, Evelyn's eyebrows or lack thereof, and all the messiness behind the brownface.

If you missed us and would like to check out the livestream of this show, go to https://www.caveat.nyc/events/white-people-wont-save-you-5-25-2024 and click livestream to get the VOD of the show. Tickets will be up until June 31st so don't delay!

We couldn't have done any of this without you, the listeners, so thank you all so much! If you'd like to see us do more live shows, please hit us up on Twitter @white_pod or at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com Also check out Aileen and Jonny on Uy Que Horror wherever you get your podcasts and on Twitter @uy_que_horror and on IG & TikTok @uyquehorror!

Kendrick V Drake. Beef of the century? May 10, 2024

Sometimes you gotta pop up and show niggas! Wow, what a week and change it's been for Hip-Hop. We actually had recorded something last Thursday and well...you know what happened. But we couldn't not talk about Kendrick and Drake and everything it means.

The culture, the music, the jokes, the wild takes! We cover it all and more!

And just a reminder our last live show of the Spring is coming up soon. May 25th at Caveat in NYC! Tickets are live now on the website and there's also a streaming option to watch from the comfort of your own home! Aileen from Uy Que Horror is joining us and you won't want to miss it!

Men of Honor (Feat. Panama Jackson) May 01, 2024

First, all solidarity to the students protesting across the country. We're seeing some truly horrifying things but the strength and conviction is what's needed. The kids are holding it down and we need to do the same for them.

With that said, we're back after a few live shows with the amazing Panama Jackson (The Grio) to talk about what may very well be the last good movie Cuba Gooding Jr. ever made, Men of Honor.

Also starring Robert De Niro, it tells the true story of the first Black master diver, Carl Brashear. Panama asks if this even qualifies as a white savior movie, we get into the deleted ending as well as some quality Tubi picks.

Panama is someone we've been fans of for a long time. From his days at The Root and Very Smart Brothers to his amazing podcast Dear Culture over at The Grio, he's always on top of what's happening in Black culture. Give him a follow @panamajackson on all the socials!

Many thanks to folks who joined us live in Brooklyn and Baltimore for our first two live shows! We have one more coming up at Caveat in NY on May 25th. Grab your tickets here to join us in person or on the livestream!

La La Land (Feat. Roxxy Haze) Apr 17, 2024

We talking about Jazz y'all! Specifically the 2016 film, La La Land. The hype, the 14 Academy Award nominations, the viral Moonlight moment, 8 years later, is this movie still mid? You know it!

We're joined by the hilarious Roxxy Haze to discuss, why did white people love this movie so much, did you remember any of the songs, and much more!

Roxxy is so talented, you definitely need to check out support all she has going on. Comedy, music, articles, poetry! Find it all at her website or by following @roxxyhaze on Twitter and IG.

As for us, we just did our first live show! Thanks to everyone who came out to see us in Brooklyn! We have another show coming up on April 26th at The Crown in Baltimore, so if you're in the area, come out and see us. As always, follow us at @white_pod and hit us up at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com

White Man's Burden redux Apr 08, 2024

In celebration of our first live show coming this Sunday (April 14th at the Brooklyn Comedy Collective, get tickets here! ) we're flashing back to one of our first episodes! Hopefully you'll join us this Sunday and our guest Dylan Green (Pitchfork, Reel Notes Podcast) as we dive back into this mess!

Enemy Territory (Feat. Shawn Pryor) Apr 03, 2024

Phew! Every once in a while we find a movie that makes you ask, "how is this real?" This is one of those ones. We call in WPWSY Hall of Famer Shawn Pryor to discuss a movie that has Tony Todd, Stacy Dash, and *checks notes* Ray Parker Jr.?

We discuss the absurdity of the Vampire gang, give Psycho his flowers, and just marvel at the many wild turns this movie takes.

Shawn is out here putting in work! Go to his website to find his upcoming slate of books hitting stores all throughout 2024! And find him on the socials at @theshawnpshow

Also, we're going to be live soon! April 14th is our first show at the Brooklyn Comedy Collective and we're super excited to see you all. Dylan Green will be joining us as we revisit one of our first episodes, White Man's Burden. Tickets go live soon on Brooklyncc.com so get yours and come through!

A Quiet Place Part II (Feat. Blerdy Massacre) Mar 28, 2024

Despite the title of the movie, we've got a lot to say about this one! Joined by our friends at Blerdy Massacre, we discuss the 2020 smash sequel A Quiet Place Part II. We discuss man on island, what we expect with two Black people in the upcoming film, and pick some of our favorite Black horror films!

Much love to Sharai and Xero for joining us! Do yourself a favor and check out their podcast ASAP to get your horror fix! And follow them on the socials!

Also, we're going on tour! Coming to New York and Baltimore in April and May. April 14th at Brooklyn Comedy Collective, April 26th at The Crown in Baltimore, and May 25th at Caveat in New York. More details coming soon, but we can't wait to see you all in person soon!

The American Society of Magical Negroes Part 2 Mar 20, 2024

Oh, you thought we were done!? After we finished talking with Aisha, we still had thoughts to get off, so enjoy this extended conversation as we get to more quotes from director Kobi Libbi, dig deeper into some of the supposed themes, and ask if Justice Smith's character stumbled on a copy of Wretched of the Earth after getting kicked out of the society.

Some news! We're going to be live in NY and Baltimore coming up in April and May! Our first show is coming up April 14th at the Brooklyn Comedy Collective. Tickets are going on sale soon, so if you'll be in BK, come through and see us!

As always, find as at @white_Pod, write to us at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com We'll be back soon with a new episode!

The American Society of Magical Negroes (Feat. Aisha Harris) Mar 20, 2024

You asked and we delivered. A movie that should have been funny and insightful but instead turned out to be one of the most confusing films in recent memory, The American Society of Magical Negroes is something we have to talk about. Before you ask, it's everything you feared and maybe a bit more. We break it all down so you don't have to see it, including some intriguing quotes from Kobi Libbi and our thoughts on ways this concept could have worked.

Please check out Aisha's review here, and follow on the socials for more of her wonderful thoughts on film and more. In fact, you can buy a book filled with them in Wannabe: Reckonings with the Pop Culture That Shapes Me . And of course check out NPR's Pop Culture Happy Hour wherever you get your podcasts.

Oh, and we aren't done. Cameron and Jordan had another whole round of thoughts and more quotes from the director to parse so part two is coming soon!

Invictus (Feat. Fatimah Gilliam) Mar 14, 2024

Award season has come to an end, so we look back at a past awards darling to see how it holds up today. Spoiler, it doesn't. 2009's Invictus tells the story of Nelson Mandela and the 1995 South African World Cup rugby team and earned Oscar nominations for both Morgan Freeman and Matt Damon. Lucky for us, Fatimah Gilliam (author of Race Rules: What Your Black Friend Won't Tell You) is here to help us break it all down!

We discuss Mandela's rugby obsession, the lack of apartheid in a movie about apartheid, and what exactly this movie wants us to feel good about?

You have to check out Fatimah's book! As she says, go order it a Black bookstore, go request at your local library, and rate it on Amazon to help work that algorithm! You can also find Fatimah on Twitter @fatimahgilliam and on Instagram @fatimah_gilliam

We have live show stuff coming soon! April we'll have two shows, one in Brooklyn and one in Baltimore and then the following month in May we'll be back in NY for a show in Manhattan. Dates are coming soon, but come out and see your boys! Follow us on Twitter at @white_pod for more details! We'll see you soon!

The Phantom (Feat. Tarik Davis) Feb 28, 2024

Today! We travel back to simpler times, before cinematic universes, to a world of ridiculous costumes, confused racial stereotypes, and a villain who only operates at 10. We're talking 1996's The Phantom, and we're joined by the amazing Tarik Davis (The Amber Ruffin Show).

We talk about the poorly named "rope people", if The Phantom actually has any powers, and his ghost dad's bizarre interest in his sex life. We also discuss the worst Black History Month job offers.

We can't say enough about Tarik. Incredibly funny and knowledgeable, you can follow all he has going on at his website, tarikdavis.com. Also, be on the look out for his short film Doc: Race, Revolution, Relativity, & The Confessions of A Time Traveling Terrorist. You can also follow him on Twitter and IG @Tarikrdavis.

As always, follow us on Twitter @white_pod and hit us up at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com We'll be back in two weeks with the hosts of the Blerdy Massacre to talk A Quiet Place Part II.

Betrayed (Feat. Chauncey K. Robinson) Feb 15, 2024

A white supremacist romantic thriller? Say it ain't so. Today we discuss 1988's Betrayed, a movie that asks, "is it love if you don't hunt a Black man with an uzi in the middle of the night"?

We're joined by the fabulous Chauncey K. Robinson to talk about if Tom Berenger understands kissing, if Debra Winger is the worst undercover agent, and much more!

Many thank to Chauncey! Be sure to check her out at @Mschaunceykr on Twitter and subscribe to her excellent Youtube Channel. And be sure to be on the look out for her upcoming docu-series Production Tales From Hell from Dead Meat Productions where she'll detail some of the behind the scenes of some of the most notorious horror movie productions.

We're working on some exciting stuff on our end. Live shows, some video and Tiktok content, and more. Be sure to lookout for everything over at @white_Pod on Twitter and be sure to write in at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com

American Fiction Feb 01, 2024

We take a break from the never ending parade of white saviors to talk about a movie we actually liked, American Fiction. Written and directed by Cord Jefferson, and starring Jeffery Wright, Sterling K. Brown, Erika Alexander, and Traci Ellis Ross, it recently was nominated for 4 Academy Awards.

We talk about the amazing cast, our thoughts on the message of the movie, parallels to Bamboozled and 40 Year Old Version and much more!

Do yourself a favor and run out to see this movie, definitely lives up to the hype! And if you have seen it, let us know what you think at @white_pod on Twitter and at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com

Carbon Copy Jan 18, 2024

Oooof! We swear we love Denzel, but this week we travel back to look at his very first movie, 1981's Carbon Copy. Someone thought of white dad, Black son, and took the rest of the day off.

There's a million things wrong with this movie, but most of all it's the waste of Denzel. We discuss the tired gags, how the director of Coolie High could have been behind this, and much more!

Also, don't think we let Nikki "what was the Civil War" Haley off the hook either.

As always, hit us up on Twitter at @white_pod or message us at whitepeoplewontsaveyou@gmail.com

We'll be back in two weeks talking about a good movie for a change as we discuss American Fiction.

2023 Wrap up Jan 04, 2024

Just in time for 2024, our 2023 wrap up! Jordan and Cameron take a look back at the year that was, the good and the bad.

We give our picks for best movies and music, as well as talk about some of the more problematic figures of the year *cough Eric Adams, Kanye Cough*, and finally things we're looking forward to in 2024.

Another year, and we're so grateful to you all for listening! This show wouldn't be what it is without you. We can't for another year! As always, find us at @white_pod on Twitter, and hit us up at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com Happy 2024 everyone!

White Dog (Feat. Carmen and Kemet) Dec 20, 2023

Happy Holidays everyone! As we do this time of year, we welcome our sisters Carmen and Kemet to join us on the show. Our selection this year, the controversial 1982 film, White Dog.

Directed by Samuel Fuller and shelved by Paramount before it was even released, the film follows a racist dog who goes on a rampage, and we have questions. Like what the audition process was like for the Black people getting attacked by dogs. Also, why did they care more about curing the dog than...I don't know, the multiple people the dog kills?

We can't believe we're already at the end of 2023. So much love and gratitude to all of our wonderful listeners who supported us through this year. We love you and we hope you take some time to be around those you love to close the year. We've got some big things in store for 2024, so stay tuned!

Native Representation in Media (Feat. Joel Robinson and Joanna Hearne) Dec 07, 2023

This one is special! We're so thrilled to be joined by Joel Robinson, a member of the Osage Nation, and professor of Native American and global indigenous media studies, Joanna Hearne, to discuss the current state of Native representation in media.

It's an incredible conversation that covers Killers of the Flower Moon, Reservation Dogs, some film history, and tons of great recommendations to watch.

We're super grateful to both Joel and Joanna for joining us! Check out Joel's piece for Slate on Killers of the Flower Moon here, and find Joanna's books here and here.

We also wanted to make as many resources available as possible so check out our Google Doc that has a list of the films recommended as well as some books and more! Also, The National Film Board of Canada has a bunch of films you can watch for free on their website!

You can find Joel at @trythebuffer on Twitter and IG and you can find us at @white_pod as well as at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com We've gotten so many great messages recently and we promise we'll get back to everyone soon!

Speaking of soon, look out for our annual holiday episode and end of year round up coming up in the next few weeks!

Black Like Me (Feat. Dare Johnson) Nov 23, 2023

As the Holiday season starts up, we turn towards a classic, and one we've been low-key avoiding. But the time has finally come for us to watch one of the craziest movies we've seen so far, 1964's Black Like Me.

We're joined by friend of the show Dare Johnson to talk about a movie where a white man pretends to be Black to see "what it's like." If that wasn't bad enough, it's based on a real experiment done by journalist John Howard Griffin.

We've got a lot to talk about with this one, including how not one Black person called him out for obviously being a white man, how no Black person knew he was a white man, and how not one damn Black person said, "ain't you a white man"?

As we get ready to close out 2023, we just want to say how much we appreciate you all and we hope you're able to wind down and spend some quality time with those you love. Times are rough, so be sure to hold on to the good things.

You can find Dare @badicaldude, and hit us up at @white_pod on Twitter and at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com to let us know what you thought of this one and what we should watch in 2024. We'll be back in two weeks with Spike Lee produced, Son of the South.

Killers of the Flower Moon (Feat Kaili Y. Turner) Nov 09, 2023

*Note, unfortunately we had some recording issues on this episode and lost part of our conversation, but we still have a great episode for you and Kaili will be back!

You know we had to talk about this one! We're joined by the super talented Kaili Y. Turner to discuss the buzziest Oscar film of the season, Martin Scorsese's Killers of the Flower Moon.

Based on the book of the same name and depicting the heinous Osage Indian murders that spanned over 10 years, we get into what this movie would have looked like from an Osage perspective, reaction from Native critics, and much, much more.

Kaili is incredible and you definitely need to be on everything they have going on. Check out Kaili's website and find them on Twitter at @Kailyturner.

We'll also have much more coverage of KotFM coming up so stay tuned for that. As always, find us at @white_pod and email us your thoughts at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com

We'll be back in two weeks with Dare Johnson talking about Black Like Me!

Karen Oct 26, 2023

Ladies and gentlemen, 2021's Karen.

Wait...you need us to say more? Well, in honor of the spooky season, we subjected ourselves to one of the most absurd movies we've watched yet. Cameron and Jordan discuss what the hell everyone involved was thinking, the Get Out effect on Black horror, and a Cee-Lo Green song so bad it makes us long for Taylor Swift's cover of September.

With all the uncertainty in the world, hope everyone is doing alright out there. It's important to stay informed, but watching death on this wide a scale isn't normal. Take care of yourselves.

Keep up with us for the time being on Twitter @white_pod and hit us up at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com We'll be back in two weeks with Black Like Me.

Rooftops Oct 11, 2023

Ever wonder what West Side Story would be like if you took out all the songs, dancing, drama, and replaced it with fake combat dancing and crack? Well, you get 1989's extremely confusing film, Rooftops.

Actually directed by West Side Story's Robert Wise and completely wasting Tisha Campbell and Allen Payne, this one was a real head scratcher. Jordan and Cam talk the bait and switch of the trailer, the absurd "dance combat", and Lobo's press on nails.

Also, one of the wildest stories of Caucacity in 2023.

We're still out here on Twitter until it implodes at @white_pod . Follow us there and we'll see you in two weeks for maybe the wildest movie we've covered yet, 1964's Black Like Me.

The Hurricane (Feat. Drexton Clemons) Sep 27, 2023

This week, we step into the ring to go 12 rounds with the one and only Denzel Washington. We're joined in our corner by comedian Drexton Clemons (Game Breakers on Prime) to break down 1999's The Hurricane.

The story of Rubin Carter, a boxer wrongly convicted of murder, it got Denzel a Golden Globe and an Oscar nomination. It was also almost all lies. We get into the real story of Rubin's trial, if there has ever been as absurd a cop as Della Pesca, and discuss if Denzel has ever been in a truly bad film.

Follow Drexton on Twitter (no X over here) and Instagram (both @thisguydrex) for upcoming stand up dates as well as all your sports takes on Game Breakers!

You can also follow us on Twitter at @white_pod to stay up on all the caucacity going down, upcoming live shows, and more! We'll be back in two weeks with 1989's dance drama Rooftops!

Ninja Vengeance Sep 14, 2023

WE BACK BABBBBYYYYYY! Saviorless Summer is over and the time has come to return and karate chop these white savior movies in the neck.

And what better way to start than with Ninja Vengeance! Have you ever wondered what it would look like if a white ninja fought the KKK? Look no further than this mess of a B-movie that...look, it's a lot. A love subplot with the chemistry of an Ikea manual. The karate of a community theater production of Mortal Kombat. And an understanding of race on par with Ron DeSantis.

A lot has happened during our break, including the continued strikes for writers and actors and the wildfires in Hawaii. If you can, consider giving to both here and here.

Also as a programming note, we're going to be releasing episodes bi-weekly from here on. So don't freak if we don't show up in the feed next week, we'll be back the following week!

Follow us on...(sigh) X at @white_pod and be on the look out for our IG coming soon. We love y'all and it's good to be back!

Blindsided Aug 17, 2023

We come to you live with a special White People Won't Save You report! Blindside 2: Blindsided. While he was busy protecting the pocket, they were busy running his.

Cameron and Jordan react to all the drama surrounding the new allegations and law suit between Michael Oher and the Touy's. We get into Oher's grievances, the difference between a conservatorship and adoption/guardianship, and why the math ain't mathing on the Touy side.

We've got some fun stuff coming up soon for y'all. Starting with a live watch of Rooftops with the good folks at Queuepoints podcast over on our Discord. Also, we;ll be back with new episodes soon. Thank you so much for your patience, we can't wait to get back to doing the show!

We're on...X *shudders* for now at @white_Pod, but we're working on setting up at calmer shores on Instagram. We'll back with more caucacity for you soon!

Strike talk with James III Aug 05, 2023

We back! Kind of...

Jordan and Cameron chop it up with friend of the show James III (Black Men Can't Jump in Hollywood) to discuss the ongoing WGA/SAG strike that continues to roll on. We talk his experiences on the picket line, what the unions are fighting for, A.I. and more.

We also get into the ancestors messing up that cop in Boston, fake gorillas in the zoo, and Taco Bell potentially skimping on the meat.

We hope you've been enjoying your summer! If you can, we encourage you to donate to the Entertainment Community Fund

Follow James at Ruleof3inc on Instagram and follow us on...X? at @white_Pod. We'll be back soon, stay safe y'all!

Guy Ritchie’s The Covenant (Feat. Murtada Elfadl) May 31, 2023

Hello! Although we're still taking it easy for the summer, we couldn't let a white savior movie this blatant pass us by. Guy Ritchie's The Covenant (yes you have to say the whole thing) is the story of a soldier so racked by guilt after his Afghan translator saves his life, that he goes back guns blazing to bring him and his family to America. It's the grounded and subtle storytelling Guy Ritchie is known for.

Jordan sat down with culture critic and podcast host Murtada Elfadl (The Izzy and Murtada Picture Show) to discuss just how crazy it is that Dar Salim's character dragged Jake Gyllenhaal 62 miles on foot, how the hell you make an apolitical movie about Afghanistan, and much more.

You can find Murtada on Twitter at @ME_Says and read his work all over at places like AV Club and Variety. He also helps put on NewFest, an LGBTQ+ festival in New York which will be starting today! Go to NewFest.org for more!

As always, you can find us on Twitter at @White_pod and at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com More coming soon, including info on live watches, reviews, and more fun things. Happy Pride, and we'll see you soon!

An announcement (Don’t Panic) May 17, 2023

DON'T PANIC!

Hello friends! We've been at this thing for almost 2 years now, no skips, and we love doing the show. However, it's a lot of work on our end putting things together on our own. So in the interest of not burning out and keeping things going, we'll be taking a little summer break.

DON'T PANIC

What this means is there won't be any regular episodes as you know them in June and July, but that doesn't mean we're ghosting you. Jordan will be around with some guests to talk about some white savior films coming out this summer, including Guy Ritchie's The Covenant, as well as non white savior movies like Into the Spider-Verse 2 and The Little Mermaid.

We'll also be doing some live watches (more info once we figure out where and when) and we'll try to have some more fun surprises in the interim.

So one more time, no need to panic. Podcast will return in full this August, but until then, check in with us at @white_pod on Twitter and email us at whitepeoplewontsaveyou@gmail.com

Be easy, take care of yourselves, and we'll be back soon!

Resurrecting The Champ May 10, 2023

On today's episode, we discuss a movie with the most baffling and boldly caucastic finale we may have seen so far. 2007's Resurrecting The Champ is your typical "based" on a true story nonsense, until the final 15 minutes...

Josh Hartnett does zero journalism, almost tanks a major newspaper, lies to his wife and son nonstop, but somehow he's the one who ends up better off than he started and the icon Samuel L. Jackson dies alone in an alley. Make it make sense!

We're closing in on 100! Let us know what movie we should watch to commemorate the occasion and who you'd like us to try and have on. Hit us up at @white_pod and whitepeoplewontsaveyou@gmail.com

We'll be back next week with a look back/forward at Dune and a breakdown of the latest trailer.

Jungle 2 Jungle (Feat. Girl That’s Scary) May 04, 2023

Ahhh the 90's. Super Soakers were soaking, MTV mostly played music videos, and a former cocaine mule turned snitch turned comedian was headlining TGIF. And at the height of his powers, Tim Allen and Disney joined forces to deliver one of the worst movies of the decade, 1997's Jungle 2 Jungle.

We're joined by the amazing Katt and Jaz of the Girl That's Scary podcast to break down the foolishness of Tim Allen and his son "Cat Piss". Why did Disney feel the need to remake this film twice? How do you not get divorced after 13 years? And why does Tim Allen want to say a certain racial slur so badly?

We loved having the incredible Jaz and Katt on and you absolutely need to subscribe to GTS immediately. Equally entertaining and informative, even if horror isn't your thing.

We're coming up on 100 episodes and we need your help! What movie should we watch? Who should we talk to? Hit us up at @white_pod or at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com with your picks!

We'll be back next week with Resurrecting the Champ.

The Klansman (1974) Apr 26, 2023

TW: This is a capital E exploitation film an there's a lot of sexual violence to get through.

What the hell did we just watch? A mess of a movie that stars Lee Marvin, Richard Burton, and the film debut of OJ Simpson. Buckle up because this one is...wild.

We discuss what, if anything was the point of all this, the unfortunate parallels to current politics, and justice for Willie Washington. Also, white people doing the most in the 3rd level of caucacity this week.

We're nearing our hundredth episode! What should we watch, who should we talk to? Let us know at @white_pod on Twitter and at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com

We'll be back next week with the crew of Girl That's Scary to discuss Tim Allen's trifling ass in Jungle 2 Jungle.

The Last King of Scotland (Feat. Aramide Tinubu) Apr 19, 2023

Today, a movie that proposes "what if you could fuck around...and never find out." 2007's The Last King of Scotland tells the story of a fictional white man who joins up with infamous Ugandan dictator Idi Amin and does just that.

We're joined by the always on point Aramide Tinubu to discuss just how absurd the idea of Amin going to Nicholas to make decisions is, what the hell was going with Kerry and Forest's make up was, and just how many times can you sleep with your boss' wife before being hung by meat hooks?

Aramide is prolific in these critic streets. You can find her work on Shadow and Act, Indie Wire, Essence, and Tudum just to name a few. Check out her website here, and follow her on Twitter @awordwitharamide and Instagram

And as always you can follow us at @white_pod and hit us up at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com Our 100th episode is coming up, so let us know who we should try to have on the show and what movie we should watch!

Remember The Titans (Feat. Aisha Harris) Apr 12, 2023

Clear eyes, full hearts...wait no. We fight for that inch! No, sorry. Left side! Strong side! That's the one!

This week, we return to the gridiron as we discuss the 2000 Disney hit, Remember the Titans. We're so happy to be joined by the wonderful Aisha Harris (Pop Culture Happy Hour on NPR and author of the upcoming Wannabe: Reckonings With the Pop Culture That Shapes Me, in stores June 13th) as we get into this and try to move past the nostalgia.

So much to discuss, like Blue the human needle drop, the plethora of well meaning white people, and how much of this true story is even true?

Aisha is a tremendous voice and guide through the world of pop culture, so you absolutely should be following on Twitter: @craftingmystyle and on IG: aha88. And go here to preorder her book which is sure to be one of the must reads of the year! And of course, check out Pop Culture Happy Hour on NPR Tuesday - Friday.

As for us, follow along with our shenanigans on Twitter @white_pod, and hit us up at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com

We'll be back next week with Aramide Tinubu and The Last King of Scotland.

Ernest Goes to Africa Apr 05, 2023

*Exasperated sigh* Where do we even begin. Jordan had never seen an Ernest movie until now, and boy what a one to start with.

The movie is so bad we spend the first 30 minutes talking about a completely different topic (creating complex BIPOC characters) but eventually we do get around to talking asking the real questions. Like...what is Ernest's deal? Were 3 different instances of brown face necessary, and where in the hell is "Central Africa"?

Find us on the Twitter at @white_pod and at whitepeoplewontsaveyou@gmail.com We'll back next week with Co-Host of Pop Culture Happy Hour Aisha Harris discussing Remember The Titans.

To Kill A Mockingbird (Feat. Skyler Higley) Mar 29, 2023

The time has finally come for us to go back to where it all started. It may not be the first, but 1962's To Kill a Mockingbird is without a doubt the grandfather of all white savior movies.

That's why we brought in the hilarious Skyler Higley (Conan, The Onion) to help us get to the heart of why this film (and book) still endure. We answer probing questions like is Atticus Finch a good white man, why did Tom have to die for Scout to learn a lesson, and what exactly is a chifforobe?

Also, we talk Chapelle/Chris Rock and the white gaze in entertainment.

Skyler is one of the funniest comics performing today and you should absolutely be on the look out when he comes to your town. Like tonight (March 30th) he'll be in Salt Lake City performing at Wiseguys Comedy. Also follow him on Twitter (@skyler_higley) and IG (@skylerhigley) and his website!

And as always, you can follow us on Twitter at @white_pod and hit us up at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com We'll be back next week with...*shudders* Ernest Goes to Africa.

John Carter (Feat. Mellow Brown) Mar 22, 2023

$350 million? For this? That's right, this week we're talking the disastrous (both financially an critically) 2012 Disney film, John Carter. Not of Mars, or anything else. His name is his name.

We're grateful to be joined by the super talented Mellow Brown (Blade Runner: Origins) to get into what exactly went wrong. Was it the red face? The thinly veiled Civil War allegory? The totally confusing plot devices?

We also chat about the importance of Black voices in science fiction.

Mellow is crushing it right now. Blade Runner Origins from Titan Comics is available wherever you get your books. You can also catch his work on Station 19 on ABC, Calls on Apple+ and American Gods on Starz. Follow Mellow on Twitter @Mellowmarketer and his website at https://mellowmarketing1.wixsite.com/mbrown

As always, you can find us at @white_pod on Twitter and at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com We'll be back next week with the OG of all this, To Kill a Mockingbird.

On Deadly Ground (Feat. Brent of Home Video Hustle) Mar 16, 2023

MY BALLS!

Seriously, where do we start with this one. When we found out there was a Steven Seagal movie where he saves indigenous people from an evil oil company owned by Michael Caine, there was only one person to call. Brent from Home Video Hustle returns to guide us through the Seagal-verse and the 1994 environmental thriller, On Deadly Ground.

A fever dream of a film, Seagal literally fights a bear, survives multiple explosions, drowns Michael Caine in oil, and gives a 10 minute speech on environmental dangers and the wonders of electric cars.

Follow Brent at @hvhpodcast on Twitter and check out the show wherever you get your podcasts!

As for us, you can find us at @white_pod and hit us up at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com We'll be back next week with Disney's John Carter.

The Color of Friendship (Feat. Hanna Phifer) Mar 09, 2023

Look beyond Black and white and you'll find...a white savior?

This week, we once again return to the wonderful world of Disney to discuss the 2000 Disney Channel Original Movie, The Color of Friendship.

Joined by Twitter royalty Hanna Phifer, we catch up with Piper and Mahree and discuss how the movie holds up, what's missing, and the story of the real Mahree Bok. Also, #blockshaunking.

Hanna is a must follow on Twitter and is currently writing some wonderful culture pieces that you can find on her website, www.hannaphifer.com

As always, you can find us @white_pod and at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com We'll be back next with Steven Segal's environmental thriller, On Deadly Ground.

Renaissance Man (Feat. Shayna from The Geekdown) Mar 02, 2023

"I don't know what you've been told. This white savior trope is getting old!"

This week we head to basic training with the wonderful Shayna of The Geekdown Podcast to discuss the 1994 flop, Renaissance Man. That's right, before Beyonce, there was Danny Devito, Marky Mark Wahlberg, and Stacy "I'll take my grits plain with salt" Dash in this half hearted military comedy.

Between Khalil Kain being set up as a secret crack dealer and the Shakespeare rap written by Wahlberg, there's a lot of nonsense to get through. We also get into what "two bits" exactly is and if Stacy Dash was ever really one of us.

Shayna is awesome and so is her podcast The Geekdown which you can find on Twitter @thegeekdown and on their website https://www.villains.wtf/

As always, find us at @white_pod on Twitter and at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com We'll be back next week with the 2000 Disney Channel Original Movie, The Color of Friendship.

Breakin’ 2: Electric Boogaloo (Feat. Queue Points Podcast) Feb 22, 2023

Believe in the beat! We're jumping back in with Special K and the gang as we discuss Breakin' 2: Electric Boogaloo!

We're joined by the phenomenal Jay Ray and DJ Sir Daniel of the Queue Points Podcast to break (pun intended) this one down. This movie is really just vibes so get ready for some laughs cause...what in the world is happening? The worlds horniest hospital, clearly not Turbo falling down some steps, and Ice-T in some crazy outfits.

We also talk Beyoncé getting robbed at the Grammys and the worst rapper names.

Queue Points is an amazing podcast exploring and uplifting Black music! If you're a music lover, you absolutely need to check them out. Hit their website, their Twitter and Instagram, and follow Jay Ray and Sir Daniel for all they have going on celebrating 1988 and 50 years of hip-hop.

As always you can follow us at @white_pod and hit us up at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com We'll be back next week with Renaissance Man!

No Escape (Feat. May Ngo) Feb 16, 2023

You ever think you're about to see one movie, and end up watching something completely different and somehow worse? Cameron and Jordan definitely thought they were about to watch 2012's The Impossible, that takes the tragic 2004 Tsunami in Thailand and focuses on a white family on vacation. But 2015's No Escape is a different kind of disaster.

The wonderful May Ngo (founder of the Prague writers workshop) joins us to break down this bizarre Owen Wilson family...action...dramedy? Like, he throws his kids off a roof, but then also does a back and forth bit with them right after?

Anyways, we break down why they can't even tell you what country they're in, the practicality of having a huge sign that simply says "Thailand" on your bridge, and May gives some fantastic insights into what are the likely real life inspirations for this movie.

May is great, simple as that! Follow May at @Mayngo2 on Twitter, check out her website at www.mayngo.net and sign up for her Substack! Also, she's working on a crime novel which sounds awesome, we'll keep you updated on that for sure!

You can always find us at @white_pod on Twitter and at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com

We hope Black History Month has been kind so far despite all the nonsense going on. We'll be back next week with Breakin' 2: Electric Boogaloo with the good folks at Queue Points Podcast.

Glory Road (Feat. Niles Abston) Feb 09, 2023

HITS From the Street was in a Disney movie? Specifically the 2006 sports (drama/comedy?) film, Glory Road. Also staring Derek Luke, Mechad Brooks, and the immortal Tatyana Ali, it tells the story of the first All Black starting five to win an NCAA championship...except the movie is 90% lies.

Cameron was off doing a secret project, but the hilarious Niles Abston (Dave on FX, Household Name) joins us to discuss why this movie sounds like an AI program designed to write a movie about Black people written by white people. We talk Derek Luke's perm, coach being a hater, and Miami's Black History Month police cruiser.

Niles is crushing it right now and you absolutely need to check out his special Household Name, up now on Youtube. You can also find him on Twitter and IG at @Niles100. He'll be performing live next weekend 2/16 - 2/18 in Portland and Seattle so check his socials for more!

As always, find us at white_pod on Twitter and hit us up at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com

We'll be back next week with the 2014 Owen Wilson led disaster, No Escape

Extraction (Feat. Elliott Bornemann) Feb 02, 2023

We're certainly not in the MCU anymore. Today we check out what Thor does on his off days...apparently murder a lot of Brown people in 2020's Extraction. Produced by the Russo's (and based off a graphic novel they made) Chris Hemsworth coldy shoots his way through a South Asian country to rescue a drug dealers son and it's exactly as joyless as it sounds.

We're joined by the amazing Elliott Bornemann (of the Youtube channel Hakkunah MaChatter) to break it all down. Is there a better movie here without Hemsworth? What is the fascination with yellow washed out skies in these movies? And what kind of caucacity is going on over in the UK?

Elliott is terrific and if you dig our show, you'll love his Youtube channel where he talks about this movie and more! Follow him on Twitter @Hakunamachatter to keep up with everything he's got going on.

And you can always find us over on @white_pod on Twitter and at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com Hit us with your movie recs, drops, and more! We'll be back next week with Glory Road!

The Indian in The Cupboard (Feat. Craig Hale) Jan 26, 2023

We refuse to accept this movie as anything other than a fever dream because WOW! If "this hasn't aged well" was...well, a movie, it would be 1995's The Indian in The Cupboard. Directed by Frank Oz (the man behind Yoda and Ms. Piggy), we've got a lot to say about this one.

And joining us once again is the terrific Craig Hale! Together we break down a very chaotic movie. How the hell does this cupboard work (time travel?) How does it compare to the original book? And what in the world was the intention behind making his best friend South Asian?

Catch Craig on the Decoded Horror network where they provided a voice for Graveyard Orbit, a queer speculative fiction podcast that sounds spooky and a lot of fun. And follow them @catharticus on Twitter for more!

As always, you can find us on Twitter @white_pod and hit us up at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com We'll be back next week with Extraction!

The Bodyguard (Feat. Rhayne Coleman) Jan 19, 2023

And IIIIIIIIIIIIIII (deep breath) can't believe Kevin Costner is back again. Yes, this marks the 4th time we've had to talk about this man, this time for the 1992 romantic thriller (?) The Bodyguard.

We're joined again by friend of the show Rhayne Coleman to discuss Whitney Houston's film debut. None of us had seen it since we were young, and it was quite a different experience seeing it in 2023.

We talk what was up with Keven Costner's hair, why they kept letting that Black boy near the water, and who we would cast in a modern remake.

Find Rhayne on Twitter and Instagram @carefreeblerd to check out all of his amazing tv and film reviews and check out his episodes here.

As always, you can find us @white_pod on Twitter and email us at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com We'll be back next week with The Indian in the Cupboard!

Disney’s Tarzan (Feat. Dare Johnson) Jan 11, 2023

Guess who's bizzack? Hollywood's favorite super colonizer returns, as we also welcome back Dare Johnson to discuss Disney's Tarzan.

What separates this entry from all the previous ones in the series? How about Disney's decision to just...remove all the Black people from Africa? Also, we discuss the best animated film staring an unlikely actor (Bee Movie anyone), an you know we had to flame Kevin McCarthy's dumb ass.

You can find Dare on Twitter and Instagram @badicaldude! Follow for all of your Anime and Spongebob needs.

You can find us on Twitter @white_pod and at whitepeoplewontsaveyou@gmail.com

As always, we love you! See you next week with more Caucacity!

College Kickboxers Jan 05, 2023

Happy New Year! We're back on our bullshit for 2023 starting the year right with a gift from the Tubi Gods, the 1991 kung-fu film, College Kickboxers.

Look, given the title of the movie, you already know what this one is. Filled with all the tropes, it's Karate Kid with 90% more racism and Power Rangers level fight scenes. And we have by far our favorite villain in a while, the iconic Craig Tanner.

We hope 2023 is treating you right, or at least better than Kevin McCarthy. Tell us what movies you'd like to see us do this year over at @white_pod on Twitter or at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com

We've got some great episodes coming up this year, so get ready for more caucacity and we'll see you next week!

2022 Wrap Up Part Two Dec 29, 2022

One more time, we review the year that was. Starting with....*sigh* Black men acting foolish. We discuss Kanye and Kyrie as well as the continuing fall out from "The Slap".

Then we get into TV, talking about Atlanta's final season and other favorites. And we wrap with our favorite topic, movies as we talk more Everything Everywhere All At Once and more favorites!

We can't thank you enough for spending your time with us this year. We hope we've giving you some laughs, some insight, and saved you from watching some terrible films! We'll be back in 2023 with all of the terrible movies Jordan recently found, including one with Steven Segal!

Happy New Year!

2022 Wrap up Part One! Dec 29, 2022

Happy (almost) New Year! It's been a big year for your boys and we're so happy to recap 2022 with you all. You all know we love to talk so we've broken this down into two parts.

On part one, we discuss our year on the pod (that we talked with Roy Wood Jr. is still crazy) and get into this years books, comics, and music. For a look at all of our recommendations, check out our Twitter (@white_Pod).

Operation Christmas Drop (Feat. Carmen Clark) Dec 22, 2022

Happy holidays everyone! We continue our tradition from last year as Jordan's sister Carmen returns to the show to talk the disastrous Netflix Christmas movie, Operation Christmas Drop.

Nothing says holiday romance like the military industrial complex, out of context Gaelic Christmas carols, and a cartoon CGI gecko. We also discuss the real life history of Guam, what the Blackest Christmas song is, and Trump NFT's.

We love you and hope you have a wonderful holiday season with your loved ones. Take care of yourselves and stay warm! We'll be back to wrap up the year in Black culture, but until then you can find us on Twitter at @white_pod or email us at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com

The Legend of Tarzan (2016) Dec 14, 2022

Fire up that Tarzan pack because we're smoking that Legend of Tarzan on this weeks episode.

Where do you even start with this one? Their idea to modernize and update Tarzan from his racists roots is to...have him end slavery in Africa? And use the real life genocide in the Congo by King Leopold II as a backdrop? And have Samuel L. Jackson portray a real life historical figure who has to *checks notes* convince Tarzan he wasn't going to lick a gorilla's scrotum?

Yeeeaaaahhhhh, this one is on the third level for sure. And as far as rebooting Tarzan, we got thoughts on that too.

We got two more episodes this year for y'all! Our holiday episode and our year end culture wrap up so stay tuned for those! Also, be sure to hit us up with any movies or thoughts for what you'd like to see in 2023! You can find us as always at @white_pod on Twitter and send us your thoughts at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com

Last Airbender (Feat. Steven Underwood) Dec 08, 2022

M. Night the last racebender? That's right, we're finally talking about the 2010 live action (Avatar) The Last Airbender from the one and only M. Night Shyamalan. Sadly Cameron had to miss out on this masterpiece, but luckily we're joined by cultural critic extraordinaire and author of the forthcoming Forever For the Culture: Notes From the New Black Digital Arts Renaissance, Steven Underwood.

Steven and Jordan discuss what the hell went wrong in adapting this beloved animated series. Was it casting white actors as the leads? Was it disregarding the brighter and more fun tone of the series? Was it all the dumb dancing? Also, a website for oppressed Karens?

Steven is an incredible writer whose work can be found on Oprah Daily, The Level, and Essence. You can follow him on Twitter and all other social media at @blaqueword. And look for the book coming in 2024!

As for us, we'll be going down with the ship on Twitter @white_pod but you can always reach out to us at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com write to us and let us know if we made your Spotify wrapped! We'll be back next week with The Legend of Tarzan.

A Family Thing (Feat. Bassey Ikpi) Dec 01, 2022

One of these things is not like the other...it's Robert Duvall. That's right, we're talking about the perplexing 1996 movie A Family Thing. Long time listeners might recognize this as the movie Jordan's sister thought she was watching for the Black or White episode. Starring Robert Duvall and James Earl Jones, the movie fails by it's very premise of trying to convince us Robert Duvall is even .00000001% Black.

We're so excited to be joined by the legendary and hilarious Bassey Ikpi (I'm Telling the Truth but I'm Lying) to break down all the ways this movie went wrong. From the relationship between the two "brothers" to the big mamma trope, to where exactly does "nigger town" begin and end.

Bassey is one of the funniest and thoughtful people around! Her writing on mental health is incredible stuff and her book is a must read. You can find her at www.basseyipi.com as well as Twitter (@basseyworld) and Instagram (@basseyworld)

We're still holding on to the strands of Twitter over at @white_pod and you can always reach us at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com

We've got more Wakanda Forever coverage coming your way soon, as well as some end of year wrap ups and our second annual Holiday episode, so stay tuned!

Wakanda Forever (Feat. Evan Narcisse) Nov 26, 2022

"WAKANDA FOREVER!" Welcome to the first of many conversations about Wakanda Forever, the latest installment in the MCU and perhaps the biggest film this year. Joining us to talk about the movie as well as the comics is writer and journalist extraordinaire, Evan Narcisse!

We talk about his work on titles like Rise of the Black Panther and Wakanda, what makes T'Challa the hero he is, the comics to screen adaptions, and much more!

Find Evan's work wherever you buy comics! He's worked on books like New Day: Power of Positivity, Rise of the Black Panther, and the current Batman: Gotham Knights - Gilded City and Wakanda. Evan also helped work on games like Spider-Man: Miles Morales and Red Fall! And follow him on social media at @evnarc

We'll have more Wakanda Forever coverage soon, so be on the lookout! Until then, follow us at @white_pod and hit us up at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com

Wildcats (Feat. Shane Paul Neil) Nov 24, 2022

"It's the sport of kings/better than diamond rings", that's right, we're talking about football, specifically the 1986 "comedy" Wildcats. Starring Goldie Hawn and the film debut for both Woody Harrelson and Wesley Snipes, you'd think it would at least be mildly entertaining. Instead they just turned the 80's to the max and let the cameras roll.

Luckily we have Shane Paul Neil as our QB to guide us through the wacky world of this movie. From Nipsey Russell's closet full of peanut brittle, Finch's food gags, horny Wesley jumping on anything that moves, or Goldie's terrible parenting, we talk about it all.

You can find Shane on Twitter @ShanePaulNeil (while it still exists) as well as check out his photography and writing over at his site. And if you're looking for some holiday gifts, check out his shop for some amazing photos!

As always, find us @white_pod on the sinking ship known as Twitter and hit us up at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com to share your thoughts, movie suggestions and more. Thankful to you all for listening, and we'll be back next week with Bassey Ikpi for A Family Thing.

November Criminals Nov 17, 2022

This week a movie Jordan stumbled across while watching previews for The Dark Tower on DVD.

If you never heard of this one, that's the point! A buried mess of a film staring Ansel Elgort and Chloe Grace-Moretz, it follows a young white kid who desperately tries to solve the murder of his Black friend. And by solve his murder we mean try to get laid at every turn and find out his friend was every Black stereotype in one.

We discuss why the hell a movie like this even gets made, how insufferable Ansel is, and generally roast the hell out of this one.

Find us on Twitter (for now) at White_pod and hit us up at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com with your thoughts and comments on this movie and more. Also be on the look out for our Wakanda Forever coverage starting this weekend!

Made In America (Feat. Darien Sills-Evans) Nov 10, 2022

What if Sean Fury's "Bi-Racial Girl" was a movie? This week we discuss 1993's misfire, Made In America starring Whoopie Goldberg, Ted Danson, Nia Long and Will Smith. Helping us break it all down is the man who gave Cameron his first big break and cast member on East New York on CBS, Darien Sills-Evans!

We talk about what went wrong with the plot of this one, the infamous Ted Danson blackface incident, and what exactly is "D-estiny"? Also Darien talks about his time as an extra in Scent of a Woman and Malcolm X.

If you want to see Darien doing his thing in a bigger role, check out East New York on Sundays on CBS. You can also follow him on Twitter and Instagram @dasefatcap.

And as always, you can find us on Twitter (for now) @white_pod and reach us at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com We love to hear from you! And speaking of, we'll be doing a few Wakanda Forever round ups in the coming weeks so be on the look out for those! We'll be back next week with *shudders* November Criminals.

42 (2013) Nov 02, 2022

With the World Series underway and Wakanda Forever on the horizon, we thought it would be the perfect time to look at 2013's 42, starring Chadwick Boseman.

It's a movie that's fairly sanitary until Alan Tudyk goes for the racial slur world record in one scene. We discuss Jackie Robinson's impact and legacy, what Spike Lee's version of the movie could have been, and the trouble with being the "first" to break barriers.

For now, you can find us on Twitter @white_pod but we'll have to see how long that's viable. Good thing you can always reach us at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com We'll be back next week with Made In America, for real this time!

Deep Blue Sea (Feat. Dare Johnson and Shawn Pryor) Oct 26, 2022

It's spooky season ya'll! Happy Halloween everyone, and as a treat, we're taking a break from white saviors for the week and celebrating a Black horror classic, 1999's Deep Blue Sea. We're joined by the hilarious Dare Johnson and friend of the show Shawn Pryor to talk about this glorious film!

Where to begin? With the amazing death scene from Sam Jackson? The pettiness of the sharks? The incredible music video for Deepest Bluest? So many things to talk about on this one!

Follow Dare (@badicaldude) and Shawn (@shawnrpryor) on Twitter to find out all the wonderful things they're working on.

You can follow us at @white_pod for more on Deep Blue Sea as well as recommendations for what to watch this Halloween! And feel free to send us a message at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com we'd love to hear from you! We'll back next week with a look at the Whoopie Goldberg misstep, Made in America.

Sunset Park Oct 19, 2022

Just Jordan and Cameron again this week (more fun guests coming soon), but we've got a fun one as we discuss the 1996 basketball comedy(?), Sunset Park.

Starring Rhea Pearlman and Fredro Starr of Onyx, the movie is basically Eddie but in high school and edited using Terrence Howard math. We discuss the emptiness of the ideas in the movie, the lack of any Onyx songs, and if Air Bud would wash this whole squad.

As always we appreciate you for checking us out! Find us on Twitter @white_pod and hit us up at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com

We'll be back next week with our Halloween special talking about the classic, Deep Blue Sea.

Enter The Warriors Gate Oct 12, 2022

This week, we talk about a movie that somehow makes Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets seem somewhat competent, as we discuss another Luc Besson flop, 2016's Enter The Warriors Gate.

Inexplicably staring Dave Bautista and some high profile Chinese stars, this movie is the definition of a head scratcher. Unnecessary set up, check. Unasked for dance breaks, check. Blaccent, check. And on top of all that, it misses all of the easy wins it could have had.

Jordan and Cameron talk all of the odd acting choices, the total disrespect to Jade's classic "Don't Walk Away Boy", and the inflation of Arizona ice tea.

Thanks so much for listening! If you want to reach out to us, you can say hi at @white_pod on Twitter or hit us up at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com

And if you'd be so kind, rate, review, and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts! We'll be back next week with more caucacity!

The Ghost and The Darkness (Feat. James III) Oct 06, 2022

Between Cam's birthday and New York Comic Con, we sadly don't have a skit this week, but we do have a hilarious episode!

We welcome James III (of Black Men Can't Jump in Hollywood, Rule of III comics) to discuss a childhood favorite of his, 1996's The Ghost and The Darkness.

This movie has everything! A colonial and confederate team up, nonsensical plans, and apparently almost as many on set deaths as you see on screen.

We talk about why they can't just shoot the damn lions, the real story of the Tsavo man eaters, and ask the real question, are you #teamlion?

James is a hilarious comedian, writer, and actor! Black Men Can't Jump in Hollywood is a big inspiration for our show, so if you aren't listening, tune in ASAP! Also check out his sketch show Astronomy Club on Netflix, as well as the Big Mouth spin off Human Resources.

Follow James @james3rdcomedy and tune into his AMP radio show Corrupted Files every Tuesday where he interviews folks from all over the pop culture landscape!

As always, you can follow us on Twitter at @white_pod and hit us up at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com. like, review, and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. Much love and we'll see you next week with more Caucacity!

Blood Diamond (Feat. Shamira Ibrahim) Sep 28, 2022

"These ain't conflict diamonds/Is they Jacob?/don't lie to me maynneee". That's right, we're discussing the Blockbuster that shoehorned a white love story into a decades long civil war in Africa, 2002's Blood Diamond.

Starring WPWSY 3 timer Djimon Honsu, 1 timer Leonardo DiCaprio, and directed by 3 timer Edward Zwick, it's basically our All-Star game. To help us break it all down we're joined by esteemed culture writer Shamira Ibrahim!

Together we discuss the exploitative feel of the movie, the real history behind the diamond trade and war in Sierra Leone, and of course. whatever accent Leo thought he was doing.

Shamira is so talented and you are truly missing out if you don't check her work. From The Atlantic to OkayAfrica she's written some amazing essays and articles about the intersections of culture and Blackness.

Check out her Twitter and IG for more and go here for a look at some of her past work. And to keep up with new stuff, subscribe to her Substack.

Also, she had so many wonderful movies to recommend and we'll list them here for you:

As for us, you can find the show @white_pod and write in to us at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com We'd love to hear from you! We'll be back next week with The Ghost and The Darkness!

Gran Torino (Feat. Roy Wood Jr.) Sep 21, 2022

On todays episode we speak with the one and only Roy Wood Jr. (The Daily Show, Confess, Fletch) and we are absolutely as hyped as you are!

Together, we break down the 2008 Clint Eastwood vehicle (rim shot), Gran Torino. With almost a slur a minute, there was a lot to break down. Roy shares a story about hitting Clint's car with a football on the Warner Brothers lot, we ask if the point of the film is white forgiveness, and we imagine what a sequel would look like.

We can't thank Roy enough for his time and all the laughs. Roy's new movie Confess, Fletch is in theaters right now as well as digital early access at home. Also staring Jon Hamm, Ayden Mayeri, Kyle Maclachlan, and Lorneza Izzo, it's a smart and fun update of the original Fletch movies and novels. Check it out!

If for whatever reason you don't follow Roy, you can find him on Twitter and IG @Roywoodjr. And head over to Roywoodjr.com to find tour dates and more!

You can also find him weeknights on The Daily Show on Comedy Central, and every Wednesday on his podcast Roy's Job Fair (@roysjobfair).

And as always, you can find us on Twitter at @white_pod. We'll have a lot of additional info on this movie there, including more from Bee Vang and comments from the Hmong actors and crew about their treatment on set. You can also reach out to us at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com with your thoughts about these movies, recommendations for films, and more! We'll be back next week with Blood Diamond!

The Crickets Dance (Feat. Alexis Harper) Sep 14, 2022

And now, we present to you one of the cringiest and most requested movies we've had in some time. A movie so bad, we honestly recommend you don't watch. We're talking about the one, the only, 2020 train wreck, The Cricket's Dance.

We're joined by the wonderful Alexis Harper, whose tweet brought this cursed film to our attention, so it was only right we had her own to talk through it.

Part slave movie, part romance, and 100% white forgiveness, we journey back to McGrath plantation and ask questions like, how could you manage to keep two separate pregnancies a secret? Why do these slaves look like they're in a J. Crew catalogue? And what exactly do you mean by "the crickets dance"?

That's not all, because we have some juicy behind the scenes things to discuss, namely the DM and subtweet the director sent Alexis!

Speaking of, Alexis is wonderful and you should absolutely follow her here, as well as check out her abolitionist newsletter The Washington Revolution!

As for us, you can follow along on Twitter for plenty of behind the scenes, thoughts and more at @white_pod on Twitter and feel free to email us at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com with your own movie recommendations and thoughts! We'll be back next week to talk about Gran Torino with a very special guest!

The Ride (Feat. Alexis Oatman) Sep 07, 2022

BMX, family, nazis? That's right, we're talking about the 2020 (yes 2020) Chris Bridges executive produced The Ride.

What else is there to say, Ludacris loves a neo-nazi to BMX glory in this "based on a true story" drama. Except it's all made up! We question why they would even take the story from the UK to the US, what Ludacris thought he was doing with this one, and talk about what second chances actually mean.

Alexis is a fantastic writer who you should definitely be following at @iamlexstylz and hit the Linktree to find all the places you can see her work.

As always, you can follow us at @white_pod for more behind the scenes on this and other movies as well as email us at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com with your movie recs, caucacity, and more!

We'll be back next week with...The Crickets Dance (shudders).

The Serpent and The Rainbow Part 2 (Feat. Jonny and Aileen of Uy Que Horror) Aug 31, 2022

Part 2 of our spooky discussion with the good people of Uy Que Horror! We finish up our talk by going over the actual history of zombies and voodoo in Haiti, the wild and cursed happenings on the set, and Jonny and Aileen give us some amazing Latinx horror recommendations.

We cannot recommend Uy Que Horror enough! It’s an incredibly fun, funny, and often insightful look at Latinx horror from all around the world. You can find and subscribe to the podcast wherever you listen to ours and follow them at @Uy_Que_Horror. You can also find Jonny @jonnyeliot and Aileen @Aileenlilhandz.

And as always, you can find us on Twitter @white_pod where we link to all the things we discuss in each episode. Please reach out to us at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com to give us your movie recommendations, any stray caucacity you see, and anything else you want to hit us up about, we love hearing from you! We’ll be back next week with the Ludacris (in more ways than one) BMX movie, The Ride.

The Serpent and The Rainbow Part One (Feat. Jonny and Aileen of Uy Que Horror) Aug 31, 2022

It's scary hours over here, as we talk about our first ever white savior horror film (if you don't count White Man's Burden...or Green Book...or...). Anyways, we're joined by our podcast cousins Jonny and Aileen over at Uy Que Horror to break down 2 time offender Wes Craven's 1988, The Serpent and The Rainbow.

Surprisingly based on a non fiction book of the same title, the film stars Bill Pullman trying to steal the secrets of voodoo priests for big pharma back in America. Not only does that go wrong in so many ways, but so did the actual filming of this movie.

On part one we break down the most glaring parts of the film, including the least sexy sex scene put to film. We also give all praise to Tubi, and voodoo and other indigenous practices are seen as menacing while witch craft is all good.

We cannot recommend Uy Que Horror enough! It’s an incredibly fun, funny, and often insightful look at Latinx horror from all around the world. You can find and subscribe to the podcast wherever you listen to ours and follow them at @Uy_Que_Horror. You can also find Jonny @jonnyeliot and Aileen @Aileenlilhandz.

And as always, you can find us on Twitter @white_pod where we link to all the things we discuss in each episode. Please reach out to us at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com to give us your movie recommendations, any stray caucacity you see, and anything else you want to hit us up about, we love hearing from you! We’ll be back next week with the Ludacris (in more ways than one) BMX movie, The Ride.

The Legend of Bagger Vance (Feat. Amanda Meadows) Aug 24, 2022

This week, we hit the links with returning friend of the show, Amanda Meadows, to figure out what the hell Will Smith was thinking when he agreed to The Legend of Bagger Vance.

The magical negro in the purest sense, this movie opened up so many questions: was Bagger Vance a real person, can Black people take part in magical realism, and in 1930's Georgia there's...no racism? Maybe there's a reason it's Jada's least favorite of Will's movies.

We also go on a tangent about the insane Rowdy Roddy Pipper film, Hell Comes to Frogtown.

Follow Amanda and all her awesomeness at @amandonium on Twitter and @megamander IG.

Follow us @white_pod on Twitter and please, please, reach out to us at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com with all of your movie requests, thoughts, and stray caucacity.

We'll be back next week to talk The Serpent and The Rainbow.

Canonically Black (Partreon preview) Aug 17, 2022

This week, we've got a special Patreon preview! As we get things ready to launch, we thought it would be fun to give a little a preview of some of the things we got in store.

From discussions on film, to interviews with creatives and journalist, to reviews of Black Tubi movies, we have big plans. So let us know what you'd like to see!

For today, we decided to dive into the very serious discussion of who is canonically Black. Piccolo, Gargoyles, Knuckles, the shark from Deep Blue Sea. We run through our list of well known as well as deeply held beliefs of undercover Black characters.

Do you have some that we missed? Hit us up at @white_pod or whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com and let us know! We'll be back with a doozy of a movie next week, The Crickets Dance.

No Time To Die (Feat. Frankie Huang) Aug 10, 2022

*Note: Excuse the opening audio quality. A few technical issues but we get it sorted a few minutes in. Sorry about that*

This week we accept one of our most ambitious missions yet as we talk Bond...James Bond. That's right, we set our sights on the foremost super spy alongside the marvelous Frankie Huang!

We start by discussing the latest movie and final in the Daniel Craig saga, No Time to Die. Did they do Lashana Lynch dirty? What was the deal with Rami Malek's accent? And how does this film set up the future of the franchise.

We then dive into Bond as real world colonial analogue, what we'd like to see moving forward and check out the current betting odds. Is Idris still in the running?

Frankie is a super talented writer and illustrator whose work you can find at www.frankie-huang.com ! Support her art and read some of the amazing and thoughtful articles she's put out into the world.

And as always you can find us at @white_pod on Twitter, and write into us at whitepeoplewontsaveyou@gmail.com

We'd love to hear any movie recs, thoughts, or wild caucity you've seen in the world. Until next time, peace!

Gotta Kick It Up! (Feat. Brenda Gonzalez of Tamarindo Podcast) Aug 03, 2022

Si Se Puede! We're back with another nostalgic fave as we head to regionals to judge the 2002 Disney Channel Original Movie, Gotta Kick It Up! Cameron is out this week, but Jordan is joined by the tremendous Brenda Gonzalez of the Tamarindo podcast.

Together, they talk about Ms. Bartlett's unseasoned dance moves, the coded Disney imagery (specifically Chuy), and true story that inspired the movie.

Also, in this weeks caucacity, white people trying to claim Aguas Fresca?

Much love and thanks to Brenda for joining us this week! You have to check out Tamarindo, a Latinx empowerment podcast discussing culture, politics and self care. Subscribe wherever you podcast and follow the show @tamarindoCast

As always, you can find us @white_pod on Twitter and write into us at whitpeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com Do us a favor and rate and review us wherever you get the podcast. Definitely helps us to spread the show! Until next time, Si Se Puede!

Soul Man (Feat. Karen Tongson and Wynter Mitchell-Rohrbaugh of Waiting to X-Hale) Jul 27, 2022

HOW DID NO ONE KNOW HE WAS WHITE!?!?

Sorry, getting ahead of ourselves. This week, Jordan and Cameron discuss a movie people have been asking for again and again. 1986's Soul Man.

Look, C. Thomas Howell is in black face. Period. That's the movie. But we are so very lucky to be joined by the perfect guests to discuss this train wreck, Wynter and Karen from Waiting to X-Hale!

There's so much to discuss here. Karen and Wynter discuss seeing this movie in theaters. We talk about the absurdity of "tanning pills", C. Thomas Howell and Rae Dawn Chong getting married (!) after this movie and their continued defense of the film. And the fever dream of a music video that came out with the movie.

Karen and Wynter are incredible. Truly. So smart and funny and obviously you want more from them. So follow Karen at @Inlandemperor and check out her work and books at Karentongson.org. You can find Wynter at @wyntermitchell. And find Waiting to X-Hale wherever you podcast!

As always, check us out on Twitter @white_pod and write into us at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com with all of your thoughts, movie recommendations, caucacity, and more! And finally, if you'd be so kind, subscribe, rate and review wherever you get your podcasts!

See y'all next week!

Kazaam Jul 20, 2022

We Genie? In another WPWSY investigation, we follow up on a question posed by friend of the show, Brent of Home Video Hustle...is Kazaam a white savior movie?

On the one hand, it's mostly a terrible kids movie with some unbelievably bad raps by Shaq, goofy CGI and a non-sensical plot. On the other hand, Max literally grants Shaq his freedom after telling him multiple times that he "owns him".

We also get into some prime caucacity this week and discuss who the best basketball player turned actor is.

As always, if you enjoy the show, please subscribe, rate, and review wherever you podcast. Every little bit helps us keep growing the show. You can always find us at @white_pod on Twitter and write into us at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com

Until next time, in the Immortal words of Kazaam...Let's Green Egg and Ham It!

Diff’rent Strokes Part 2 (Feat. Kachelle and Kalisha Zachery) Jul 13, 2022

On part two of our very special episode, we get into some of the crazier episodes of Diff'rent Strokes. Drummonds Korean War love child? The slave owning ancestor? The native burial ground?

The tremendous Kachelle and Kalisha Zachery of WATZS Productions help us discuss each of these wild episodes, the legacy of Eric Monte, and the proverbial cornucopia of caucacity that's been happening this summer.

The Zachery sisters are doing so many amazing things and you need to check them out. Hit up the website, their Twitter, and Instagram to keep up with what they have coming soon to your screens.

As for us, you can find us at @white_pod and reach out to us at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com We've got a lot of great things coming your way, including a very special anniversary episode you won't want to miss!

Diff’rent Strokes Part 1 (Feat Kachelle and Kalisha Zachery) Jul 13, 2022

Today, a very special episode of WPWSY! That's right, we're talking about the seminal TV show, Diff'rent Strokes. The show that turned Gary Coleman into a star, ushered in a new era of TV, and also was problematic as hell.

We're joined by the tremendous Kachelle and Kalisha Zachery of WATZS Productions to talk about Norman Leer, the infamous blackface episode, and proper representation.

The Zachery sisters are doing so many amazing things and you need to check them out. Hit up the website, their Twitter, and Instagram to keep up with what they have coming soon to your screens.

As for us, you can find us at @white_pod and reach out to us at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com We've got a lot of great things coming your way, including a very special anniversary episode you won't want to miss!

The Substitute Jul 06, 2022

School is out, but we're going back to the classroom, rolling out the big TV on the cart, and watching Bill Nye. That's right, we're talking about The 1996 caucastic classic, The Substitute.

Starring Tom Berenger, Ernie Hudson, and Diane Venora, it's a masterclass of middle aged karate, 30 year old gangbanging teens, and one of the most convoluted plots we've seen in a while.

Nothing to plug this week, except if you can, think about making a donation to the NNAF Abortion Funds to help support local clinics.

Also, consider donating to the Akron Bail Fund to help support protestors still imprisoned for demonstrating against the cops who murdered Jayland Walker.

As always, you can follow us on Twitter @white_pod and write into us at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com Don't forget to rate, review, and subscribe wherever you podcast. We just got our first one star on Apple which means a certain element might be catching on...

Till next time, stay safe and be on the look out for caucacity, because boy is it strong this summer!

Pocahontas (Feat. Hanna Flint) Jun 29, 2022

Once again, we're coming for some of your problematic childhood faves! This time around, it's the 1995 Disney hit, Pocahontas.

We're lucky to be joined by the tremendous Hanna Flint (MTV Movies) to break down the long list of things wrong with this movie, starting with the fact that it's all a lie. We get into the true story of Pocahontas, talk about the strange behind the scenes, and if it would even be possible to remake the movie today.

Also, Lego Fast & Furious?

Many thanks again to Hanna, who just announced her debut book, Strong Female Character, is coming out Sept 29th! She also has two wonderful film podcasts for you to check out! First Film Club and The Fade To Black podcast. Both are terrific listens!

You can find her on Twitter @Hannaflint.

As always, you can find us on Twitter @white_pod. We'd also love to hear your thoughts, recommendations, and more at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com

Until next week, remember, these white men are dangerous! Peace!

Gods of Egypt Jun 22, 2022

Finally, the movie Jordan has been waiting to talk about since the podcast started, 2016's Gods of Egypt!

That's right, a movie called Gods of Egypt, but staring only one Black person (Chadwick Boseman). A movie called Gods of Egypt, but according to the director Alex Proyas, isn't actually about Egypt at all. A movie called Gods of Egypt, but cast one of the palest actors around in Geoffrey Rush as RA THE GOD OF THE SUN!

We get into the absurd casting, the incredible quotes from the director and cast, and get into some prime caucacity courtesy of James Patterson.

If you're in New York this week, head up to Brooklyn tomorrow to catch the premiere of Cameron's new film, Ferny & Luca

Also, head to your nearest comic shop and pick up Samurai Sonja #1 from Jordan!

As always, you can find us on Twitter @white_pod, and reach out to us at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com We'd love to hear any movie recommendations, feedback, and more you have for us. And finally, if you dig the show, rate, review, and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts.

Until next week, peace!

White Men Can’t Jump Jun 15, 2022

On today's episode, Jordan and Cam go 2 on 2 with the 1992 sports classic, White Men Can't Jump.

We debate whether this is actually a white savior film since Woody Harrelson is mostly down bad throughout, if there is any reason for a remake, and what the Blackest game show is.

Also, we reach peak caucacity with this weeks ranking system.

As always, you can follow Cameron at @theblipster1138 and Jordan at @jrsosa18

You can also follow the show at @white_pod. Also feel free to reach out to us at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com And if you'd be so kind, rate, review, and subscribe wherever you podcast. We'll be back with more caucacity next week!

Mississippi Burning (Feat. H. Drew Blackburn) Jun 08, 2022

We once again return to the MCU (Mississippi cinematic universe) to finish up The Delta Trilogy. We've seen the Ghosts of Mississippi, wondered if there is ever A Time to Kill, and now we're joined by the wonderful H. Drew Blackburn to witness Mississippi Burning.

This one has it all. The FBI as civil rights heroes, Black people getting beat like clockwork, a white love story, not to mention the screenwriter blaming Coretta Scott King for him not winning an Oscar, and the director claiming reverse bigotry.

H. Drew Blackburn is a tremendous talent who has written for GQ, Okayplayer, Texas Monthly and more! You can find him on Twitter at @Hdrewblackburn and his work at https://www.hdrewblackburn.com/ and hire him to write something for you!

As for us, you can always check us out at @white_pod as well as message us at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com

We'd love to hear from you! Rate, review, and subscribe wherever you podcast! We'll be back with more next week.

Music of the Heart (Feat. Danielle G.) Jun 01, 2022

We welcome back the delightful Danielle G. of Young, Gifted, and Abroad to discuss Wes Craven's most confounding and perhaps scariest film, Music of The Heart.

Starring Meryl Streep, the film draws on the real life of Roberta Guaspari, a violin teacher who berates Black and Brown children for over 2 hours. But the twist is, they love it! So much so it earned Meryl Streep an Oscar nomination.

We talk about a particularly wild scene with Meryl talking down to a Black mother and invoking Arthur Ashe, the pervasiveness of the white gaze, and what the hell Wes Craven was thinking with this one.

Danielle is still going strong with Young, Gifted, and Abroad. Follow her on Twitter @ygabroad and @younggiftedandabroad on IG. And you can find the show wherever you podcast.

You can find us on Twitter at @white_pod and send us movie recs, wild caucacity or just kind words at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com

Stay safe, find some joy, Happy Pride!

Atlanta Season 3 Recap (Feat. Dylan Green, Ifeanyi Awachie, Julian Lytle) May 25, 2022

We assemble an All-Star panel to discuss one of the most divisive seasons of TV in recent memory, Atlanta Season 3.

Dylan Green, Ifeanyi Awachie, and Julian Lytle come through to talk about it all. The 4 year wait, the anthology episodes, Van, and more.

Does it work? What did we like and what left us scratching our heads? What are we looking forward to in season 4?

Only thing we want to promote this week is ways you can help the families devastated by the unspeakable violence in Uvalde, Texas. Follow this link to find ways you can donate and help those in need.

We'll be back next week, until then, stay safe, spread love, and tell your local government and federal representatives that we can't keep living like this.

Finding Forrester (Feat. Carolyn Hinds) May 19, 2022

"You're the man now dog!" And with those words, Sean Connery launched a thousand memes.

This week, we're talking about 2000's Finding Forrester. Joined by the immensely talented Carolyn Hinds (So Here's What Happened) to talk about the very white gaze of the film, that opening rap, If Gus Van Sant has ever seen basketball, and Sean Connery as magical negro.

Carolyn is doing sooooo much, so be sure to support! You can find her on Twitter at @Carriecnh12 to follow #saturdaynightscifi and watch along, listen to the So Here's What Happened podcast with LaNeysha C. and catch her write ups for Butwhythopodcast.com

As always, follow us at @white_pod for more behind the scenes and caucacity. And if you enjoy the show, rate, review, and subscribe wherever you podcast!

You can also write to us at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com

Until next week dogs!

Mr. Church (feat Rod & Karen of The Black Guy Who Tips) May 11, 2022

On today's episode, we discuss the 2016 horror film, Mr. Church, about a Black man who makes a Faustian deal that binds his soul to three generations of white women.

Alright, fine, it's about Eddie Murphy cooking for white people, but still that shit is scary. Helping us sort all this out are the tremendous Rod and Karen of The Black Guy Who Tips podcast.

We discuss the magical negro of it all, Eddie Murphy as dramatic actor, the wild things the writer had to say, and talk a little House of the Dragon and Doctor Strange: Multiverse of Madness.

Karen and Rod are OG's in this pod game and have one of the best shows, period. If you aren't already down, do yourself a favor and hit the website to find all the episodes, bonus shows, and sign up to be a premium member to get even more content!

You can follow Rod at @rodimusprime, Karen at @saydatagain, and the show at @tbgwt

As always, find us @white_pod on Twitter, and write to us at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com with your movie suggestions, drops, and caucacity. We'd love to hear from you!

Mr. Baseball (Feat. Cesar Alejandro Jr.) May 05, 2022

If strikes were microagressions, how many until you strike out? This week we step to the plate to discuss 1992 sports comedy, Mr. Baseball.

We're joined by the phenomenal Cesar Alejandro Jr. of FilmSmash to talk about the great Ken Takakura, the current moment in Asian representation in TV and film, and the many, many rewrites of this film.

Follow Cesar's great work documenting and discussing Asian cinema at Filmsmash.com. It's an amazing blog filled with looks at past and current Asian films all across the diaspora and there's even giveaways for films and more!

As always, you can follow us at @white_pod on Twitter and reach out to us at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com We'd love to hear your suggestions for films, drops, guests, or wild caucacity you find out in the world. Till next week!

Freedom Writers (Feat. Brandon Collins & Justin Brown) Apr 28, 2022

Tupac, Nazis, gangs, and some out of context footage of the L.A. Riots? That can only mean one thing, we sat in on Erin Gruwell’s class and watched 2007’s Freedom Writers.

Thankfully we didn’t have to go it alone because we’re joined this week by Brandon Collins and Justin Brown of the hilarious Medium Popcorn podcast. Together, we try to make sense of Erin’s teaching techniques, another Mario performance, the harm these kinds of movies can have and much more. Plus, Brandon and Justin help us decide if a few movies on our list are actually white savior films.

If you love our show, you’ll also love Medium Popcorn. It’s a Black ass movie podcast with a funny but insightful look at films past and present. You can follow them on Twitter @mediumppodcast and check out the Youtube page for exclusive interviews and more. Also, check out the Patreon page for exclusive content and episodes.

And as always, rate, review, and subscribe if you enjoy the show. Always helps to get those computers ‘putin. You can follow us @white_pod for behind the scenes on these movies and other fun content and you can write in with your thoughts and movie suggestions at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com

The Great Wall (feat. Elaine Hsieh Chou) Apr 21, 2022

This week we journey to one of the 7 Wonders of the World to celebrate a legendary Chinese hero...Matt Damon!

We're joined by the author of the dazzling new novel Disorientation, Elaine Hsieh Chou to discuss the 2016 blockbuster, The Great Wall. The biggest American/Chinese co-production to date, and a 75 million dollar bomb.

We talk about Matt Damon's crazy accent, the erasure of Chinese actors in a movie supposedly about them, and of course the major controversy of the Matt Damon casting.

Elaine's debut novel Disorientation has been receiving rave reviews. It follows Taiwanese-American PHD student Ingrid Yang as she unravels a huge secret at the center of her dissertation on canonical poet Xiao-Wen Chou. It's hilarious and poignant and Elaine wants to help support Yu and Me books in Chinatown . It's the first female Asian-American NYC based bookstore and you can order the book from them here!

You can follow Elaine @elainehsiehchou on Twitter and we absolutely recommend her article "What White Men Say in Our Absence" for The Cut.com. It's a powerful piece that speaks to these last few years and beyond.

As always, follow us @white_pod for more behind the scenes, caucacity, and more! If you want to reach out, you can write to us at whitepeoplewontsaveyou@gmail.com .

Everything Everywhere All At Once (Feat. Dr. Nancy Wang Yuen) Apr 16, 2022

We have a special mini episode for you today as we speak with the amazing Dr. Nancy Wang Yuen (author of Reel Inequality: Hollywood Actors and Racism) about our new favorite film, Everything Everywhere All At Once.

*Dr. Umar Voice* "Spoilers, spoilers, spoilers".

We talk about all the wonderful performances, the metatextual element of Asian actors getting the space to portray multiple versions of themselves, how The Daniels went from "Turn Down For What" to this, and much more!

Nancy is literally out here doing the work and if you enjoy our show, you need to follow what she's doing. Reel Inequality is available wherever books are sold, and you can find Nancy on Twitter @Nancywyuen

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A Time to Kill (Feat. Bryndon Cook) Apr 13, 2022

We make a return trip to Mississippi this week as we discuss the 1996 John Grisham film, A Time To Kill.

We're joined by the multi-talented Bryndon Cook (Tick Tick...BOOM! and Starchild & The New Romantic) to talk about how a movie could pack so many white saviors into one story. We also ask if this is Samuel L. Jackson's most iconic performance, the absurdity of Matthew McConaughey's final speech, and if we can get a biopic of the Black woman who slaps the grand wizard.

Bryndon is an incredible talent. Stay up with everything they have going on by following the Twitter (@thisisbryndon) and also checking out the website and Soundcloud!

And as always you can follow us @white_pod on Twitter as well as write into us at whitepeoplewontsaveyoupod@gmail.com Send us your movie recs, your white nonsense, and whatever else you've got. Also if you'd be so kind, rate, review, and comment on the show wherever you podcast. Thanks for listening, we'll catch you again next week!

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