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Why You Really Have A Closet Full Of Clothes And Nothing To Wear Oct 27, 2026

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Ever stood staring into a wardrobe bursting at the seams, only to decide you literally own nothing and contemplate going back to bed? Same (and that's probably why you're listening right now.)

This week, Melbourne personal stylist and founder of Spring Street Archive, Melissa Gold joins us to stage an intervention on our closets – and unpack why the answer isn't "buy more stuff," but ditching the quiet wardrobe guilt that’s sabotaging your mornings. From the emotional trap of dressing your "fantasy self" to why you need to stop saving the good blazer for best, this is fashion advice you can actually use while running out the door.

BOUJIE TO BUDGET

Melissa's picks: The Tank Top Hierarchy

The Budget Icon: Cotton On 90s V-Neck Tank ($20)
The Everyday Treat: Flore Flore Esme Tank Top ($155)
The Bougie Splurge: P. Johnson Annie Top in Scarlet ($325)

Leigh's picks: The Vanity-Bag-As-Clutch Edit

Save: Mango Nanda Cosmetic Bag ($32.95)
Mid-Range: Decjuba Lila Vanity Bag ($30 on sale) & Charles & Keith Quilted Vanity Bag ($109)
Lotto Dream: Louis Vuitton Vanity Chain Pouch ($4,350)

For our previous episode with Sally at Styled by Sally listen here.

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CREDITS:

Hosts: Leigh Campbell

Guest: Melissa Gold of Spring Street Archive

Producers: Tina Matolov

Audio Producer: Scott Stronach

Video Producer: Jess Holmes

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Exhausted? Try The "Two-Out-Of-Three" Rule For Getting Dressed Oct 20, 2026

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Postpartum wardrobe style rules for mums are on the agenda in this episode as Tam and Lucinda share how to reclaim your personal aesthetic after having a baby.

They break down the evolving "cool mum" uniform, how to shop your own wardrobe without buying new things, and why the "two out of three" rule is a total game changer for feeling instantly pulled together. Plus, Tam shares her go-to brands for effortless mum life, Lucinda unpacks her 3-color palette hack, and the girls dive deep into practical style advice for every single postpartum phase.

And stay tuned for Bougie to Budget, where Tam brings her favourite graphic oversized tees and Lucinda shares the ultimate white crew neck tees you'll wear on rotation forever.

BOUJIE TO BUDGET:

Tam's Pick: Oversized Tees

Budget: Ghanda Thrift Tee, $34.95.

Midrange: Jagger & Stone Leo Oversized Tee, $90.

Boujie: Kinga Csilla Paper Son Roses Long Sleeve Tee, $200.

Lucinda's Pick: White Tees

Budget: Kmart Short Sleeve Cotton T-Shirt, $6.

Midrange: Uniqlo Men's U Airism Cotton Oversized Crew Neck Half-Sleeve T-Shirt, $24.90.

Boujie: COS 3-Pack Cotton Crew Neck T-Shirts, $105.

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CREDITS:

Hosts: Lucinda Pikkat & Tamara Holland

Producer: Tina Matolov

Audio Producer: Scott Stronach

Video Producer: Artemi Kokkaris

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Alexa Chung’s Reformation Collab, Chanel Drama Unpacked & the “Freaky Shoe” Recession Obsession Oct 13, 2026

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In this jammed-packed episode of Nothing To Wear, hosts Tamara Holland and Lucinda Pickett unpack the drama surrounding former Chanel creative director Virginie Viard’s sudden departure from Chanel, and why runway fashion is currently obsessed with freaky footwear. Plus, they dissect Alexa Chung’s latest collection with Reformation, and why some celebrity fashion lines stand the test of time while others crumble.

Then, Tam and Lucinda open up their DMs to solve your style dilemmas, from navigating party wear for nights out, to styling an oversized shirt without looking bulky, and the best budget alternatives to The Frankie Shop.

And in Bougie to Budget Lucinda brings her top statement kitten heels and Tam shares the evening jackets you’ll wear on repeat.

BOUJIE TO BUDGET:

Lucinda's Pick: Statement Kitten Heels

Budget: Topshop Gigi Kitten Heel in Deep Blue, $80.

Midrange: Girls with Gems Zebra Suede Kitten Heel, $289.

Boujie: Reformation x Alexa Chung Pony Heel, $520.

Tam's Pick: Statement Evening Jackets

Budget: Thrifted / Op Shop Silk Jacket, $10.

Midrange: Zara Jacquard Frog Fastening Blazer, $149.

Boujie: Harris Tapper Graf Velvet Embroidered Jacket, $879.

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CREDITS:

Hosts: Lucinda Pikkat & Tamara Holland

Producer: Tina Matolov

Audio Producer: Scott Stronach

Video Producer: Artemi Kokkaris

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Fashion Month Highlights, Lili Reinhart's Method Dressing & Zara’s Galliano Collab Oct 06, 2026

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Fashion month highlights, viral celebrity press tour style, and the drop of Zara's long-awaited John Galliano collaboration are all on the agenda in today’s episode!

Tam and Lucinda break down Lili Reinhart’s iconic 2000s method dressing, Hailey Bieber’s archive moment, and the extreme lengths stylists are going to for viral red carpet traction. Plus, they share their standout moments from Paris Fashion Week, from fake billionaires on the runway to The Row's unexpected aesthetic pivot, and reflect on the growing commercialisation of high fashion.

And in Bougie to Budget, Lucinda spotlights the sheer midi skirts taking over the catwalks, and Tam shares her favourite baby tees for effortless everyday pairing.

BOUJIE TO BUDGET:

Tamara's Pick: Baby Tees

BUDGET: Cotton On '90s Baby Tee, $20 (or 2 for $30).
MID-RANGE: Bayse Tess T-Shirt, $54.95.
BOUJIE: Bassike Raw Edge Baby T-Shirt, $110.

Lucinda's pick: Sheer Midi Skirts

BUDGET: VRG GIRL Devyn Sheer Skirt, $44.50
MID-RANGE: Superdown Brantley Midi Skirt, $92.08.
BOUJIE: The Frankie Shop Peri Sheer Skirt, $236.18 (€145).

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CREDITS:

Hosts: Tamara Holland & Lucinda Pikkat

Senior Producer: Tina Matolov

Audio Producer: Scott Stronach

Video Producer: Artemi Kokkaris

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"It’s The Salt & Pepper Of An Outfit": How To Master Statement Accessories Sep 29, 2026

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What does it take to style Tyra Banks, shoot on an Alaskan glacier, or make an $8 thrift find look like designer? On this episode of Nothing To Wear, Leigh Campbell sits down with Sydney stylist and creative director Monica Morales.

From her Salvadorian roots and Thursday night retail shifts to styling global campaigns, Monica shares the realities of the fashion industry and her secrets to high-impact style on a budget.

Plus, they cover her rules for shopping pre-loved on Depop and eBay, why accessories are the "salt and pepper" of an outfit, how to wear chartreuse, and styling hacks for pieces you already own.

BOUJIE TO BUDGET:

Leigh's items: Chartreuse

BUDGET: Los Cabos Kath Sandals, $79.95
MID-RANGE: Topshop raw seamed strappy maxi dress in chartreuse green, $105
BOUJIE: Helen Kaminski Andy Logo Cotton Cap, $150

Monica's items:

BUDGET: H&M Studios Accessories
MID-RANGE: Outhouse Jewelery & Swarovski

BOUJIE: Pucci& Schiaparelli

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CREDITS:

Hosts: Leigh Campbell

Guest: Monica Morales

Producers: Tina Matolov, Talissa Bazaz & Zara Sengstock

Audio Producer: Scott Stronach

Video Producer: Artemi Kokkaris

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The 3 Dresses You're About To See Everywhere & 'A Bugs Life' On The NYFW Runway Sep 22, 2026

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Tamara and Lucinda are back together on the mic after Lucinda’s trip to LA, and there is so much fashion news to unpack! From the "lacklustre" Emmys red carpet (and why Shailene Woodley’s controversial Balenciaga look sent the internet into overdrive) to the biggest takeaways from New York Fashion Week—including the return of DVF, Carolyn Bessette-Kennedy minimalism, and models walking completely barefoot—the girls are covering all bases.

Plus, they tackle the serious news on home soil with iconic Aussie powerhouses Cue and Veronica Maine entering administration. Is corporate wear dying, or are online-native brands changing the game?

To wrap things up, Tamara shares the three dress trends taking over spring/summer, and the girls bring you their top Bougie to Budget picks featuring taffeta shorts and colourful retro stripes.

BOUJIE TO BUDGET:

Tamara's items: Stripes

Foxwood Tides Pant Chocolate, $89.95
Vrg Grl Kinsley Polo Green Stripe, $109
Palm Noosa Eddy Dress Anana Stripe, $480

Lucinda's items: Taffeta shorts

BUDGET: Top Shop A Line Oyster Bermuda short, $79.50
MID-RANGE: Reformation Dusty Rose Mini Nora short, $128
BOUJIE: Revolve Majorelle Tilda Short in Graphite, $214

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CREDITS:

Hosts: Tamara Holland & Lucinda Pikkat

Producers: Talissa Bazaz, Ella Maitland & Zara Sengstock

Audio Producer: Scott Stronach

Video Producer: Artemi Kokkaris

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'Everything Is Marketing' What You Need To Know Before Adding To Cart Sep 15, 2026

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Decode fashion brand marketing tactics with You Beauty co-host and former Showpo content expert Kelly McCarren as she pulls back the curtain on how online brands entice you to 'add to cart'. If you’ve ever fallen in love with a brand's aesthetic only to regret buying the actual garment, this episode is your ultimate guide to cutting through the noise and making smarter choices at checkout.

Leigh sits down with Kelly to unpack personal style confidence, outfit planning tips for colourful style chameleons, and the major social media marketing red flags to watch out for before tapping your card. Plus, the duo dive into everyone's favourite segment, Boujie to Budget, where Leigh shares three chic pairs of Bermuda shorts under $100 and Kelly brings her dream yellow maxi dresses across every price point.

BOUJIE TO BUDGET:

Leigh's Item: Bermuda Shorts

Budget: Target European Linen Bermuda Shorts, $40.
Mid-Range: Glassons Tailored Bermuda Shorts, $49.99.
Boujie: Atmos&Here Nina Tailored Bermuda Shorts, $69.99.

Kelly's Item: Yellow Maxi Dress

Budget: H&M Chiffon Strappy Dress, $109.
Mid-Range: VRG GRL Alora Sheer Maxi Dress Anais, $219.
Boujie: Retrofete Winona Crochet Dress, $917.

HELPFUL LINKS:

Become a Mamamia subscriber and get an all-access pass to everything we make, including exclusive podcasts and early listening, subscriber-only articles, monthly giveaways, discounts and our home workout app, MOVE. Subscribe here.
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CREDITS:

Host: Tamara Holland

Guest co-host: Liv James

Producers: Talissa Bazaz, Ella Maitland & Zara Sengstock

Audio Producer: Scott Stronach

Video Producer: Artemi Kokkaris

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The Secret To Finding Affordable Gold Jewellery That Will Never Tarnish Sep 08, 2026

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It's time for a wild dive into the latest internet lore and high-fashion drama, because this week Tamara Holland is joined by the super stylish host of In the Comments, Liv James.

From the shocking news that the 2027 John Galliano Met Gala has officially been pulled to the ultimate breakdown of Claudia Sulewski’s four-look Oscar de la Renta wedding extravaganza, no fashion stone is left unturned.

Plus, the hosts unpack the revival of 90s "whimsy goth" with the return of Practical Magic 2, Nicole Kidman's jaw-dropping archival-inspired red carpet looks, as well as Law Roach’s chaotic, fabulous YouTube channel.

To wrap it all up, they serve up the best vintage activewear finds and stunning bezel-cut diamond jewellery for every budget.

BOUJIE TO BUDGET:

Tamara's Picks: Gold Jewellery
Bougie: Goldie Paris Ilana Bezel-Set Stackable Diamond Band, $1,195
Mid-range: The Clement Earrings, $97
Budget: YCL Emerald Bezel Stud Earring, $82

Liv's Picks: Vintage active wear
Bougie: Mode Mischief Field Pants,$159. & Track Bomber Jacket, $219
Mid-range: MOD. Vintage
Budget: Sleeveless Rib Tank, $8

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Want to hear more of Liv James? Check out In The Comments
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CREDITS:

Host: Tamara Holland

Guest co-host: Liv James

Producers: Talissa Bazaz, Ella Maitland & Zara Sengstock

Audio Producer: Scott Stronach

Video Producer: Artemi Kokkaris

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The One Wardrobe Staple That Will Completely Transform How You Get Dressed Sep 01, 2026

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If you’ve been trapped in an endless loop of black, beige, and safe corporate neutrals, this episode is your ultimate permission slip to start having fun with your clothes again - Melbourne stylist Mattie Gouman is here to help us take on that bold, bright Scandi energy.

Leigh sits down with Mattie to break down everything she spotted on the ground at Copenhagen Fashion Week, from maximalist accessories and print-clashing to the vibrant colours popping off overseas right now (think chartreuse, cobalt blue, and fire-engine red). They chat about how to embrace a "more is more" mindset with pieces you already own, the best Australian hidden-gem brands for playful dressing, and why you don't need a designer budget to stand out. Plus, Mattie shares a surprisingly simple, game-changing t-shirt styling trick that completely blew Leigh’s mind.

And stick around for Bougie to Budget, where Mattie breaks down the ultimate oversized denim jackets for every price point, and Leigh brings three effortless maxi skirts to kickstart your spring wardrobe refresh.

BOUJIE TO BUDGET:

Mattie's Pick: Oversized Denim Jackets

Budget: Uniqlo Denim Trucker Jacket, $99.90.
Mid-Range: Anine Bing Rory Jacket, $579.
Boujie: Celine Trucker Jacket in Cotton Denim, $3,300.

Leigh's Pick: Maxi Skirts

Budget: Zara ZW Collection Check Midi Skirt, $79.95.
Mid-Range: H&M Scarf Detail Skirt, $99.99.
Boujie: Heaven Australia Lotus Gia Maxi Skirt, $169.99.

Read Mattie's article 'I just got back from Copenhagen. Cool women were wearing these 5 things'.

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Become a Mamamia subscriber and get an all-access pass to everything we make, including exclusive podcasts and early listening, subscriber-only articles, monthly giveaways, discounts and our home workout app, MOVE. Subscribe here.
Get access to Very Peri, Mamamia's exclusive perimenopause series, for just $59. 25 world-leading experts, over 20 on-demand sessions, available now. We’ve sorted through the noise so you don't have to. Go to veryperi.com.au today. You hot? Same.

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CREDITS:

Host: Leigh Campbell

Guest: Mattie Gouman

Producers: Talissa Bazaz, Ella Maitland & Zara Sengstock

Audio Producer: Scott Stronach

Video Producer: Artemi Kokkaris

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Move Over Butter Yellow: The 5 Colours You’ll Be Wearing This Spring Aug 25, 2026

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Ever wondered why a specific shade of blue or a weird shoe suddenly takes over your social feed? Welcome to the ultimate Spring 2026 fashion cheat sheet.

This week on Nothing To Wear, Tamara Holland (Mamamia’s Fashion Editor) and Lucinda Pickett (Trend Forecaster) break down everything you’ll actually be seeing in stores this season and more importantly, what’s worth spending your hard-earned cash on during a cost-of-living crisis.

From Margaret Qualley’s headline-diverting Chanel "circumcised shoe" on the red carpet to the return of '90s zigzag headbands, board shorts (yes, really!), and the rise of "Meadow-core," the girls leave no trend unturned.

Plus, Lucinda breaks down the exact science behind how colors like Transformative Teal and Lemon Sorbet are predicted, Tamara gives her hot take on why she's breaking up with skirts, and the duo reveals the major style staples that are officially out for spring.

BOUJIE TO BUDGET:

Tamara's items:
Bougie: Wish Re-Nylon Drawstring Clutch Bag Prada, $1192
Mid-range: Thea Leather-Trimmed Nylon Tote Bag Valesque, $330
Budget: Drawstring Bag Baguu, $80

Lucinda's items:
Bougie: Peony Memoir Gardenia Dress, $380
Mid-range: Millie Dress Sabo Skirt, $138
Budget: Poplin Babydoll Dress Glassons, $49.99

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Become a Mamamia subscriber and get an all-access pass to everything we make, including exclusive podcasts and early listening, subscriber-only articles, monthly giveaways, discounts and our home workout app, MOVE. Subscribe here.
Get access to Very Peri, Mamamia's exclusive perimenopause series, for just $59. 25 world-leading experts, over 20 on-demand sessions, available now. We’ve sorted through the noise so you don't have to. Go to veryperi.com.au today. You hot? Same.

GET YOUR FASHION FIX:

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Follow us on Instagram & TikTok: @nothingtowearpod

Shop the Pod: Sign up to the Nothing To Wear Newsletter to see all the products mentioned plus more, delivered straight to your inbox after every episode.

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CREDITS:

Co-Hosts: Tamara Holland & Lucinda Pikkat

Producers: Talissa Bazaz, Ella Maitland & Zara Sengstock

Audio Producer: Scott Stronach

Video Producer: Artemi Kokkaris

Mamamia acknowledges the traditional owners of the land on which we have recorded this podcast.

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