More Math for More People

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Episode 6.09: We talk with Rafael about Change (dot, dot, dot) Sep 15, 2026

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Change is easy to celebrate when it’s an abstract idea. It gets real when it asks us to shift our routines, our relationships, and the way we lead. We start with a lighter spark, Dot Day, and the message behind “The Dot” by Peter H Reynolds: begin with one small mark and see what becomes possible when you focus on process over product. That tiny dot turns into a bigger question for learning and life: what happens when we give ourselves permission to start before we feel ready?
From there, we dig into change in math education and within teams. We talk about authentic collaboration, why resistance to change is normal, and how “no resistance” can actually mean missing voices or unspoken concerns. We connect these ideas to the classroom, especially the first days of school, when students are carrying last year’s experiences, relationships, and fears into a new space. Building a culture where students talk, take risks, and think together doesn’t happen by accident, it happens by design.
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Episode 6.8: Join the Leading Together Program for LOTS of Reasons Sep 01, 2026

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Orange. Month. Woman. Purple. We start with No Rhyme Nor Reason Day and tumble into a surprisingly useful question: why do some things resist neat rules, whether it’s language, poetry, or the way change happens in schools? (See what we did there?) It’s light, a little nerdy, and a reminder that sometimes doing something just for the joy of it is reason enough.
Then we shift to the work that really matters for educators: instructional coaching that actually moves classroom practice and student learning. John Hayes and Tracy Talmage join us to share Leading Together: A Coaching And Leadership Collaborative, built as a connected, year-long professional learning pathway.
Check the link below for dates and registration, share this with a coach or leader who needs stronger support, and please subscribe, leave a review, and tell us what word you still cannot rhyme.

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Episode 6.7: Serendipitous Back to School Ramblings Aug 18, 2026

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Serendipity gets tossed around as a synonym for “surprise,” but we want the real thing: the unexpected moment that actually matters because you notice it, connect it, and do something with it. We kick off on Serendipity Day with stories, definitions, and the funny contradiction of trying to “plan” a happy accident.
That curiosity leads us straight into late summer and the start of the school year. We talk school start dates across the US, why some communities hold tight to a post Labor Day calendar, and why other places begin earlier based on climate, local norms, or logistics. From there we take on year-round school, not as 50 weeks of class, but as a different academic calendar with shorter, more frequent breaks. We also wrestle with a bigger idea: could more school days reduce stress if we stop packing every day like a sprint? The heart of the conversation is what a more human school day could look like.
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Episode 6.6: Have you done a Community Circle in your classroom, yet? Aug 04, 2026

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A circle of chairs can do what a stack of rules never will. We start with a quick National Chocolate Chip Cookie Day warm-up, then we get into a practical, teacher-tested approach to building real classroom community: community circles.
We’re joined by Danielle Boggs and Laura Bain from our professional learning team to break down what community circles are and why they’re considered a restorative practice. We talk about the power of the physical circle for reducing classroom power dynamics, how a simple talking piece protects student voice, and why random seating can make circles feel more equitable. If you’ve been looking for social emotional learning routines that don’t feel forced, this conversation gives you clear moves you can try immediately.
If you’re curious about improving classroom culture, strengthening relationships, and creating psychological safety that supports learning, press play. Subscribe, share this with a colleague, and leave a review, then tell us: what question would you ask in your first community circle?

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Episode 6.5: How do you picture taking a monkey to lunch? Jul 21, 2026

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An AI voice answers the phone, sounds friendly, and almost passes as human. For a moment it feels convenient, even a little magical, and then something shifts and you realize you’re craving a real person. That tension, between efficiency and human connection, drives our conversation as we explore what AI tools can do well, what they cannot do at all, and why “human review” is quickly becoming a non-negotiable habit. What’s your personal “tell” that you’re talking to AI and not a human?
Also, it's Take a Monkey to Lunch Day!!! What in the world? We're very curious. If you imagine taking a monkey to lunch... Do it now... What do you imagine it would look like? Let us know!
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Episode 6.4: Tell the Truth and Cover Your Assets Jul 07, 2026

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“My students can’t” sounds like a fact, but it usually hides something else: we don’t yet have a clear way to see what students can do, name it, and build on it. We dig into that problem with two of our favorite educators, John Hayes and Victoria Holt, who bring their conference session “CYA: Cover Your Assets” to the mic and make it immediately usable for teachers, coaches, and administrators.

Link to the article that John mentions in the conversation.

If you want practical inclusive math classroom ideas that respect students’ abilities and raise the level of mathematical practice, this conversation is for you. Subscribe, share this with a colleague, and leave a review so more teachers can find it.

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Episode 6.3: Pink Flaming-Os and Jumbo-Sized Convo with Peter Liljedahl Jun 23, 2026

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Pink Flamingo Day kicks things off with a surprising bit of natural history, then we make a sharp turn into the question that matters for every math teacher: what actually gets students thinking. We sit down with Peter Liljedahl, author of Building Thinking Classrooms, for a practical conversation that goes past the headlines and into the moves that make the work real in K-12 classrooms.
If you want better math tasks, stronger lesson launches, clearer closings, and a more realistic picture of how Building Thinking Classrooms lives day to day, press play. Subscribe, share this with a colleague, and leave a review so more teachers can find the conversation.

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Episode 6.2: Donald Duck! and Part 2 of Adult Learning with Peter Carpenter Jun 09, 2026

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Donald Duck ... Love him? Find him annoying? Or do you want him banned? (That story is fake, by the way....)
Then we pick up part two of our conversation with Peter Carpenter to get clear about something schools confuse constantly: adult learning is not one thing. Peter breaks it down into three practical buckets: training, professional development, and professional learning. Listen to find out the difference for yourself!

Then our final installment of Join Them on Their Journey from Chi Lo in Alameda, California with a candid end-of-year reflection on classroom management, planning, and what changed when his team added weekly quizzes for more timely feedback and family engagement.
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Episode 6.1: Math, M-A-T-H, Math plus Adult Learning with Peter Carpenter May 26, 2026

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Spelling “tuberculosis” on the spot is one thing, but designing learning that actually changes what adults do is a whole different challenge. We start season six on Scripps Spelling Bee Day with a fast, funny spelling run and then we’re joined by Peter Carpenter, a longtime public educator turned coach, principal, and district leader, to talk about adult learning theory and what strong professional development design really requires.
We also hear our final post from Jessie in Astoria, Oregon, reflecting on end-of-year realities and the practical Building Thinking Classroom “micro changes” that made a difference: random daily groups, more whiteboard thinking, bell ringers instead of homework, better note-taking routines, and more intentional assessment design.
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Episode 5.23: We get a lot of mileage out of our values discussion with Rafael May 12, 2026

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National Odometer Day sounds like a joke until you follow the math hiding in plain sight. We kick things off by unpacking what an odometer actually measures, why it can help prevent mileage fraud, and how it connects to geometry you can feel in your hands.
From there, our conversation opens up with Rafael del Castillo, CPM's Executive Director, as we reflect on five years of the More Math for More People podcast, the guests who’ve shaped our thinking, and the kind of math education community that forms when people show up ready to share. We also get real about remote work versus in person time: some work can happen virtually, but values clarity, strategy, and deep listening often need space, presence, and patience.
The heart of the episode is leadership and strategic planning through the lens of healthy tension. We talk about values that pull in different directions, why “both-and” thinking matters, and how leaders can listen to learn rather than listening to respond.

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