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How motherhood changes your closest friendships, with Dr. Anne Welsh
You're crushing it at work, you're showing up for your kids, and you're trying… really trying… to also be a good friend. But the pursuit of excelling in all three keeps leaving you depleted and falling short across the board. And that picture of the village you keep seeing everywhere? The tight-knit crew of women who are all magically available and deeply connected? It might be setting you up to discount the support you already have.
In this episode, Danielle sits down with clinical psychologist and executive coach Dr. Anne Welsh, author of the forthcoming book Ambitious Mother, to talk about what happens when ambition, motherhood, and friendship all compete for the same woman's energy. They dig into the difference between healthy and unhealthy striving, why ambition works better as a web than a ladder, what most women get wrong about the village, and how to maintain friendships with child-free women when everyone feels underwater. Dr. Anne also shares what she sees ambitious women ignoring that costs them the most: their own wants.
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TOPICS IN THIS EPISODE:
- The difference between healthy and unhealthy striving, and which one your ambition is actually fueling
- Why thinking of ambition as a ladder is keeping you stuck
- The ambition paradox that leaves working mothers depleted no matter how hard they try
- What most women get wrong about the village (and the connections they're discounting)
- Why your friendships outside of motherhood might matter more than the ones inside it
- How to bridge the gap with child-free friends when everyone feels underwater
NYC EVENT 8/27: Danielle Bayard Jackson and Dr. Anne Welsh with be talking about Ambitious Motherhood (and friendship!) at 5pm at the Veronica Beard on Madison Avenue. Want to attend? Email hello@betterfemalefriendships.com to RSVP.
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ABOUT DR. ANNE WELSH
Dr. Anne Welsh is a clinical psychologist, executive coach, and mother of four. She's the author of Ambitious Mother: From Surviving to Thriving in Your Career and at Home, and her work centers on helping ambitious women shift from overwhelm and perfectionism to healthy striving, without giving up what they actually want.
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CHAPTERS:
- 00:00 — The pull of trying to be everything at once
- 03:49 — Introducing Dr. Anne Welsh and Ambitious Mother
- 05:35 — Healthy striving vs. unhealthy striving
- 07:44 — Ambition as a web, not a ladder
- 10:54 — The ambition paradox and spreading yourself thin
- 13:22 — What we get wrong about the village and the value of weak ties
- 16:14 — Why friendships outside motherhood still matter
- 20:21 — Honesty, vulnerability, and reconnecting with your wants
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