Stay ConnectedTrue stories and conversations with survivors, advocates and experts on the insidiousness of cults, frauds, scams and pyramid schemes. Through compassionate and educational informal chats, we work to end the stigma of “failure”, in an machine systematically designed for you to fail. Hosted by Roberta Blevins, star of LuLaRich.
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In Part 2 of my conversation with The AntiMLM Kid, we talk about the fallacy of the nonexistent "Level Playing Field", how MLMs explain Pyramid Scheme payment checks to their reps, get into the Double Speak of Amway, and give some valuable advice for when you find yourself in an awkward conversation about your shoes and income potential in the aisles of your closest Big Box Store.
Show Notes
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Music : Abstract World by Alexi Action
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Ever wonder what it's like to be raised by IBOs? To have every memory and influence rooted in Amway? In Part 1 of my chat with The AntiMLM Kid, we dive into what those early years looked like, how her parents met and how she was groomed into becoming an IBO herself. It wasn't until she met her now husband that she began to open her eyes to the harsh truths of MLM.
Show Notes
Follow The AntiMLM Kid : TikTok | Instagram
r/AntiMLM : My MLM childhood: growing up in an amway family
r/AntiMLM : Amway Ruined my Childhood
r/AntiMLM : My Parents were in Amway
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When Dianne, a former Amway Diamond reached out to me to help her tell her story and add another piece of the puzzle to our deep dive into Amway, I jumped at the chance. Dianne and her ex-husband were inside the cult for 25 years, and she has quite a few eye opening stories and revelations to share, including what it takes to reach Diamond and what staying at Peter Island is really like.
Show Notes
What are the odds of Making it to Diamond in Amway?
Casino Psychology 101 : What Makes Casinos Addictive
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For our Cult Month bonus series we are diving into the History of Amway, starting with Carl Rehnborg, the inception of Nutrilite, and the earliest beginnings of The American Way. Stay tuned as we dive into all the sordid details of the Grandfather of MLM.
Show Notes
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When J first joined Amway and started to catch feelings for her upline, it wasn't without a his heavy handed influence. Over the following months she fell hard for his love bombing and future faking, and everything seemed absolutely wonderful, until it wasn't. The dirty looks from other woman in the organization, petty gossip, and unnecessary drama was only the beginning.
Show Notes
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Content Warning : In this episode we talk about heavy topics including rape, torture and murder. Please use discretion when listening.
For our Halloween episode we are diving into the predators who live among us in plain sight, acting as members of society while doing depraved acts when no one is paying attention. We talk about Ted Bundy, John List and the most terrifying Amway IBO I've ever come across, Paul Bernardo. Happy Halloween Hunbots and Hunbros!
Show Notes
Radford University Psychology Dept : Paul Bernardo
Criminal Minds Forum Paul Bernardo & Karla Homolka
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If you're looking for more Amway podcast episodes, do I have a treat for you! Not only are we talking to Dani Rodriguez about her story, but she's also the host of the Exes and Tea Podcast which tells almost exclusively Amway stories! In our chat we discuss her journey in and out of Domestic Violence and the cult of Amway, but also the disgusting things that happened to her while inside, including a health dose of faith manipulation, and child endangerment.
Show Notes
Connect with Dani : Instagram | Podcast
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Life After MLM is produced by Roberta Blevins. Audio editing is done by the lovely Kayla Craven, video editing by the indescribable RK Gold, and Michelle Carpenter is our Triple Emerald Princess of Robots. Life After MLM is owned by Roberta Blevins 2024.
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In preparation of Amway Month in November, we've got a bonus episode filled with wild Amway Horror Stories, from growing up an Amway kid, to dreaming of one day joining Amway, as a kid. If you thought general MLM Horror Stories were painful, these tales of former IBOs will leave you speechless.
Show Notes
10 Horror Stories that Prove MLM is Trash
Football Guys - Let's Hear your MLM Horror Story
r/AntiMLM - My Personal Amway Horror Story
Zelda Universe - Amway Horror Stories
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Trigger Warning: In this episode we talk to a former Juror on a murder trial about a gruesome case in great detail. Please use discretion when listening.
When Trish showed up for jury selection, she just thought she would be fulfilling her civic duty and would be dismissed and headed home shortly. Instead, Trish found herself seated in the jury box, selected for a local murder case, where a woman had been found beaten and murdered in her own home. Over the following days, Trish was thrust into the traumatic story, required to listen to every detail, look at every photo and hear the testimony of those involved to a staggering degree. And after hearing her story, it begged to question; Who is taking care of those involuntarily involved with traumatic cases after the case is over?
Show Notes
Who's Taking Care of the Jurors?
Jury Duty : Verdicts and Vicarious Trauma
Everything You Need to Know About Wade Wilson
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Music : Abstract World by Alexi Action
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I can't get enough of this book, How to Make Big Money in Multi Level Marketing, so we are gonna start with Chapter 1, with added snarky commentary and get through this drivel together. In Chapter 1 we learn "How to Prosper and Enjoy the Good Life Through Multi Level Marketing" where we will learn what MLM is, what the future looks like for the industry, the differences between MLM and Franchising and how good of an investment this really is. Plus, the story of "George & DeDe Shaw" to round out the "things that didn't happen".
Show Notes
How to Make Big Money in Multi Level Marketing
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Ruth, one of our guests from Season 1, comes back to update us on her life and share her cringey MLM journal entries. As Ruth reads her inner most thoughts as a Hun deep in Pure Romance, we comment and reflect on what she was saying and what she really meant in those last years leading up to finally leaving. From deeply empathic thoughts and actions to saying the quiet parts out loud, Ruth's journey out of MLM gives us an inside look into the mind of a Hun and reminds us what it looks like to start your life after MLM.
Show Notes
Pure Romance Switches to Omni Channel
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I am out of town, so here is a spooky Halloween bonus episode with some of the most heartbreaking MLM Horror Stories I found on Reddit, featuring some of our favorite MLMs to hate, Amway, Primerica, Mary Kay and LuLaRoe. If you'd like to dive deeper into these posts and read comments or updates, the source link is provided below, and let me know if you'd like more sourced stories as bonus episodes going forward! There are so many, and they all deserve a platform to be heard on.
Show Notes
r/antiMLM : MLM Horror Stories
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Sophia joined Amway as a vulnerable teenager who was just looking for adult mentorship and stability in her life. Through a series of tragic events, Sophia realized that life was far too short to be stuck in something so controlling and toxic, and despite the extreme guilt she felt to her upline, came to find out that she had one foot out the door already. But what happens when you know you have to leave, but you're not sure if you can function in life without your upline?
Show Notes
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Life After MLM is produced by Roberta Blevins. Audio editing is done by the lovely Kayla Craven, video editing by the indescribable RK Gold, and Michelle Carpenter is our Triple Emerald Princess of Robots. Life After MLM is owned by Roberta Blevins 2024.
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Happy October!!! Friend of the pod, Elora Dodd found the book How to Make Big Money in Multi-Level Marketing at the thrift store and sent it to me to use in AntiMLM content. For the month of October it will serve as our own culty version of Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark and give us fodder for bonus episodes and extra content for True Crime month! Today I am reading some selected passages from "very successful" MLMers, as they tell us why they joined their MLM, as well as a dramatic reading of an MLM version of "The Oyster Parable".
Show Notes
How to Make Big Money in Multi-Level Marketing
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Life After MLM is produced by Roberta Blevins. Audio editing is done by the lovely Kayla Craven, video editing by the indescribable RK Gold, and Michelle Carpenter is our Triple Emerald Princess of Robots. Life After MLM is owned by Roberta Blevins 2024.
Music : Abstract World by Alexi Action
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Eva Collins learned the hard way that the coaching and course industry is a less than scrupulous playground full of grifters and decided she needed to do something about it. In our conversation we cover the similarities of our own experiences in schemes, share the red flags to look out for when deciding to hire outside help and wax poetic on why the trolls are so triggered.
Show Notes
Connect with Eva: Instagram | Website
r/antimlm Is Master Resell Rights an MLM?
FTC: When a Coaching Program is a Scam
International Coaching Federation
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Robyn has had ADHD her whole life, and she's been chasing that "Dopamine Dragon" for as long as she can remember. In the various ways she's learned to control it over the years, it wasn't without the familiar game of MLMs, jumping from company to company, hoping to hit it big. Through joining the old standards, new fads and even a ground floor opportunity, Robyn learned the hard way that the house always wins. In our chat we talk about the effects of MLM with ADHD, toxic diet culture and fast fashion.
Show Notes
The MLM Influence on Diet CULTure
What is Fast Fashion? And Why is it a Problem?
Unraveling the Impact of Thrifting
A Sustainable Guide to Thrifting
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*Content Warning* In this episode we talk about heavy topics including Domestic Violence, Narcissistic Abuse, Ableism and Medical Trauma. Please use discretion when listening.
Katie was a young woman looking to take hold of her independence and make it on her own when she first met Christian on a dating app. His prolonged abuse helped lay the foundation for a lot of the relationships Katie found herself in and the medical issues still plaguing her to this day. When a freak accident left Katie with a debilitating TBI, she found herself deep in the clutches of Pruvit, further worsening her medical issues and forcing her to take a hard look at where she was headed.
Show Notes
Connect with Katie : Instagram | Threads | LinkedIn
Advocating for Yourself with an Invisible Disability
Brain Injury Association of America
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Music : Abstract World by Alexi Action
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In Part 2 of our story, Sarah and I discuss how the cult evolved after the bombs were successfully prayed away and the bunkers were abandoned in the early 90's. As the toxic diet culture craze came into fashion and being crunchy was the newest fad, Church United and Triumphant clung to their remaining members and adopted a macrobiotic diet. We talk about their obsession with the healing powers of Tea Tree Oil, how the MLM Melaleuca scammed their way in the door, the panic of Y2K, and the Siege at Waco, and how it actually helped CUT keep its tax exempt status.
Show Notes
Montana Compound Zillow Listing
Prophet's Daughter by Erin Prophet
Church Universal & Triumphant's Website
Church Universal and Triumphant
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Back in the 1980's Sarah was born into a Doomsday Cult who worshiped the "ascended Masters" built underground bunkers in the Montana wilderness to survive the nuclear holocaust of The Cold War. But that's not all... Their exalted leader who was affectionately known as "Mother", also had a hand in helping create the cult, Twin Flame University. In part 1 of our episode, we chat about the fear around the Cold War, the history of Church United and Triumphant, Twin Flames and a few other culty connections.
Show Notes
Montana Compound Zillow Listing
Prophet's Daughter by Erin Prophet
Church Universal & Triumphant's Website
Church Universal and Triumphant
The Royal Teton Ranch (photos)
The Lost Teachings of Jesus by Elizabeth Clare Prophet
Soulmates & Twin Flames by Elizabeth Clare Prophet
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Dana had no idea the day my face came across her FYP, that in 2 years time her life would be totally different. It started off innocently enough, as an email asking questions, followed by light conversation back and forth, until the last email I received that started with "I just wanted to reach out and say - I QUIT!". But Dana's journey out of MLM was littered with the adjacent scams that occupy the spaces between; Coaching, Courses, Affiliate Marketing, and Facebook Raffle pages that look more like illegal gambling rackets than actual business support.
Show Notes
How to Tell if a Course is Legit
Find Your Local Gaming Control Board
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It's about time we had another Herbalife episode, and this one might take the entire loaded tea/shake combo. Meet one of our Discord members Michael, and his mom Ginger who opened up their very own Herbalife Nutrition Shop without having to jump though any of the normal hoops. With shady business practices from their upline, and a less than honest attempt at a retail store, Ginger and Michael learned quickly that this wasn't a real business and it was too late to do anything about it. I hope the FTC and lawyers who keep tabs on Herbalife are listening today, because these loopholes are some of the worst I've ever heard.
Show Notes
Herbalife Associated with Hepatoxicity
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Hey! We're coming to you with a BONUS EPISODE that's a little different that usual, in fact this bonus episode is just an information filled conversation about an event coming up soon that could greatly benefit a lot of our listeners! The Untapped Event put on by the 12M+ Instant Teams Community is an unparalleled 3-day conference designed for the military spouse community. It includes a 2-day virtual experience full of connections, networking, resources, and growth opportunities as well as a virtual hiring event. There will 2 on-site activations on Day 3 in Fort Liberty, NC, and Fort Campbell, TN.
Thursday and Friday start at 8:30 AM (EST), Saturday on-site activations begin at 9:00am (EST).
Speaker announcements and full agenda coming soon!
If you have community events that you think could impact our community for the better, hit me up!
Show Notes
Instant Teams : Doing Well by Doing Good
Join 12M+ on InstantTeams HERE
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First, I cannot believe we're on the OTHER SIDE of 250 episodes, and secondly it couldn't be with a more fun guest! Meet Don Martin, fraud investigator by day and host of the podcast Head on Fire. When Don made a video on TikTok asking about the potential dangers of Bomb Party, I HAD to make a reply video, and what happened was our worlds colliding and creating two different podcast episodes about it. In OUR episode on Life After MLM, Don and I talk about the Grift of the Woo, and how scammers invade the spiritual communities with their overpriced crystals, cold readings and snake oil. If you've ever found yourself scrolling, contemplating spending lots of money on tarot, psychics, or mediums; "THIS IS FOR YOU!"
Show Notes
The Coven of Witches who Fought the Nazis
Harry Houdini & The Scam of Spiritualism
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It's our 250th Episode!!! Michelle is back to help with another Scientology episode! This time with our friend Chris Shelton to talk about his 27 years inside the cult and what the punishments Sea Org members receive are actually like. In this 2 part episode Chris shares about his time growing up inside Scientology, working as a Staff Member at Org Bases like Big Blue in LA, joining the Sea Org, and serving time in the Rehabilitation Project Force, where the punishment DID NOT fit the crime.
Show Notes
Connect with Chris : Instagram | YouTube | Twitter | Website
Scientology: A to Xenu: An Insider's Guide to What Scientology is Really All About
Debbie Cook Testifies About "The Hole"
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Michelle is back to help with another Scientology episode! This time with our friend Chris Shelton to talk about his 27 years inside the cult and what the punishments Sea Org members receive are actually like. In this 2 part episode Chris shares about his time growing up inside Scientology, working as a Staff Member at Org Bases like Big Blue in LA, joining the Sea Org, and serving time in the Rehabilitation Project Force, where the punishment DID NOT fit the crime.
Show Notes
Connect with Chris : Instagram | YouTube | Twitter | Website
Scientology: A to Xenu: An Insider's Guide to What Scientology is Really All About
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Have you ever seen someone on social media describing a weird encounter at a Walmart or a Mall where a random person comes up and starts strange conversations and complimenting them, and them wondering what just happened? I get tagged in almost ALL of them, and I always let the creator know that it's an MLM and to run. But it's not just ANY MLM, it's a very specific one we talk about A LOT (though today we'll be calling it "FAM") and what the person on social media just experienced is the prospecting part of what FAM likes to call "The Process". In this episode Stefan and Jenna take us down the very many steps of "The Process" and share their story of 13 years in FAM.
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Connect with Stefan & Jenna on Instagram
On Becoming a God in Central Florida
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Who doesn't love an Amway episode? I feel with each one we get 2 steps closer to figuring it all out, and still find a whole new set of questions to ask next time. In this chat we meet TJ Musumhi, a former member of the LOA LTD for 6 years. In his time with Amway and LTD, he faced faith manipulation and too many empty promises which lead him to discovering the truth of the Tools Scam. TJ dove into the rabbit hole and eventually found our episode with Sean Munger and reached out to share his story.
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Irene is one of our Discord member who wanted to share her story of not only being rejected by the Kundalini Yoga Cult, but also growing up with an abusive mother obsessed with the attention associated with medical abuse. From her doctor shopping mother, to being misdiagnosed, Irene shares the story of her childhood and the neglect and chaos she was forced to accept as normal. We chat about our "neurosnazzy" journeys, mental health, Munchausen by proxy, Rx drug abuse, and why not to buy Yogi Tea.
Show Notes
Yoga Yoga Austin is Shutting Down
After Yoga Yoga closes its locations, some teachers claim they still haven't been paid
r/tea : Disturbing info about Yogi Tea being owned by a cult
Hyberbole and a Half by Allie Brosh
NME settles 66 psychiatric patient care cases for $15 million
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I met Lori in the most "Roberta" of all places, in the line for the Taco Buffet at a Podcast event and invited her to come sit at our table. Little did I know that that small act of kindness would end up becoming one of the most interesting conversations I had the entire weekend, and in that moment I knew I had to have Lori come share her story and hard won wisdom with us. As a woman pastor in the SBC, Lori has a lot of stories to tell and our conversation goes down many avenues including evangelicalism, ERA, the covering up of religious abuse and the changing face of leadership that doesn't include "dueling microphones".
Show Notes
Connect with Lori : Instagram | YouTube | Substack | Website | A World of Difference Podcast
The Southern Baptist Convention
How Pence Outshined Trump at the SBC
SBC Ousts Churches for Woman and SA
The Tiny Blond Bible Teacher Taking On the Evangelical Political Machine
Redeeming Power: Understanding Authority and Abuse in the Church by Diane Langberg
Something's Not Right by Wade Mullen
The Bully Pulpit (Lori's Substack)
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When I put out the call to action a few weeks back for more Cutco/Vector Marketing content, I was pleasantly surprised with the response! When we start digging into trying to figure out an MLM, it seems each chat clears up some things, but opens more questions about others and this conversation with "Stitch" was no different. We chat about how Cutco doesn't "seem" like an MLM (and how they like it that way), in-home demonstrations, Cutco during Covid, and those dudes who run the booths on the State Fair circuit. As someone who ran a Cutco office, "Stitch" has a lot of insider secrets, including recruiting scripts and what an prescreening interview looks like as she indoctrinates yours truly.
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Beware of this "Job Opportunity"
r/Columbus : I counted 8 MLMs at the State Fair today
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Apostate Alex returns to update us on the happenings of Scientology in the UK, and Michelle is back too! According to Alex, he's been "a bad, bad, boy" and has a lot to report on the Anti-Scientology protests and the shady government involvement that's been keeping him busy the past 7 months. The jokes alone are worth the trouble. He also shares his thoughts on activating activists, one of Michelle's favorite topics in advocacy, and how to get involved if you're in the UK and want to show support!
Show Notes
Connect with Alex! - YouTube | Instagram | Twitter | Website
Internal emails reveal Scientologyโs recent meddling in local government
Council REMOVES all Scientology references in meeting minutes
HMRC responds to Diane Abbottโs call for UK Scientology fraud investigation
Michelle's Activist Activation Presentation
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Mitch Brisker was a 23 year old heroin-addicted film school drop-out when he found Scientology in Downtown Hollywood. Through recovery, he went on to become a successful commercial director and caught the eye of Scientologyโs notorious leader, David Miscavige. Mitch ultimately became the chief architect of Scientologyโs global propaganda machine, creating the films Scientology still uses for recruitment and obedience. Nearly 30 years later Mitch left the cult and began speaking out about the abuses he witnessed and experienced. Throughout our chat he shares his moral injury of participating in the lasting influence of the cult of Scientology.
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Scientology The Big Lie: How I Made an Evil Cult Look Good by Mitch Brisker
Ex-Scientologist says church covers up โfailure of their beliefsโ
United States v. Paramount Pictures
Larry Anderson Speaks Out on His Starring Role in Orientation
Jason Beghe: The TV Tough Guy Who Took on Scientology
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In Part 2 with Shannon, we get deeper into the reasons why MLMs are prevalent in the lives of military spouses, both as representatives and customers. Shannon also shares with us, some of her side hustle journey to where she is today, and offers lots of job advice for those leaving MLM and transitioning into doing their own thing. From gig work and virtual assistants to starting your own business or monetizing a hobby, we break down a lot of the options available that are doable for most.
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Connect with Shannon : TikTok | Instagram | YouTube | Facebook | The Flying Kitchen | Dismantled Podcast
Dean Graziosi Sued by FTC for Deceptive Practices
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Shannon reached out to me because it's time for her to tell her story, and I was happy to oblige. She's a military spouse and mother and she had some things she needs to get off her chest when it comes to MLMs and the US Military. In Part 1 Shannon and I discuss the times she found herself in Mary Kay, and the gross recruitment tactics that were used on her as a vulnerable wife of a deployed service member.
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Connect with Shannon : TikTok | Instagram | YouTube | Facebook | The Flying Kitchen | Dismantled Podcast
What's With Military Wives & MLMs? (r/antiMLM)
Sylvia Weinstock's Sensational Cakes
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Not everyone who joins an MLM has a horrible experience, some people join MLMs to have some fun, make some friends and get a decent discount on a product they can't seem to live without. With some questions and concerns about her current MLM, Cristie reached out to me to find answers. She loved the products, her upline was great, and she was seemingly successful, until tax time made her look much deeper into the scam. I'll never forget that email when Cristie told me she had left Bella Fizz, had some moral injuries, and wanted to share her side of the story.
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Kirby Vacuums (AntiMLM Reddit)
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Kimberleigh is a member of our Discord and wanted to share her story of being in BOTH Cutco, a famously "masculine" MLM, and BeachBody, a famously "feminine" MLM and how different the experiences were with not only product and culture, but recruitment and FOMO. And as a special added bonus, Kimberleigh gives us some tips and suggestions for beefing up a resume after a few years of MLM service.
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Vector Marketing : Scam or Legit?
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I took my laptop and a microphone to the MLM Conference to chat with people on break! I took all that audio, plus my own thoughts and experiences and created a fun episode about what happens at the con when the zoom is paused. If you're looking to be a part of the 2025 MLM Conference, please reach out and I will get you in touch with the Steering Committee!
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*This episode includes topics on child abuse, purity culture and child sexual abuse. Please use discretion when listening.*
Shelly Snow Pordea was raised as an Independent Fundamental Baptist, and experienced CSA at a very young age, in fact too young for Shelly to process what had happened to her. It wasn't until a tent revival style sermon about Jezebels and Harlots at Church Camp that Shelly even made the connection to her abuse years earlier. When she brought this newfound information to the adults in charge of protecting her, they instead ostracized her and made her an example of what not to be, requiring supervision to even sit next to other girls her age. Though her deconstruction of leaving the IFB, Shelly shares a beautiful story of getting back to what's truly important.
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The Cheating Wife by Shelly Snow Pordea
Independent Fundamental Baptists
World's Largest Sunday School (Time Magazine)
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We watched the documentary "The Curious Case of Natalia Grace" on Discord and were FLOORED by the entire production. From the horrific story of child abuse to the sensationalized, dramatic storytelling, something always felt slightly off and prompted more questions than it ever answered. In this bonus episode we have listener and Discord Member Casey to lead her unique perspective into an incredibly nuanced topic of discussion.
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The Curious Case of Natalia Grace
Adoption in the Media : Natalia Grace
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*Content Warning: This episode contains conversations about infertility, adoption and foster care. Please use discretion when listening.*
Shanny grew up in a strict Evangelical cult where her entire life as a woman was planned out for her. First comes love, then comes marriage, then comes the baby in the baby carriage, right? But what happens when no one prepares you for the very real possibility that things might not work out the way you want? For Shanny it looked like supporting every newly pregnant friend at their baby showers, fielding constant questions about her future as a mother, and silently navigating a long battle with infertility she never expected. Going down both adoption and foster care routes to expand her family, Shanny offers a valuable perspective with a hilarious wit.
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Last month I got to go to Podcast Movement Evolutions in Downtown Los Angeles and record a fun crossover episode with some of my favorite podcasting ladies at Spotify Studios! HUGE THANK YOU to Spotify for the use of the space and your hospitality! And it was so great to hang out with and collaborate on content with Andrea Dunlop and Terra Newell! Our chat got cut short due to LA traffic and bad GPS directions, but we managed to get in some time to chat about the intersectional topics of our shows, and how we can support those who want to tell their stories.
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Connect with Andrea : Instagram | TikTok | Podcast
Connect with Terra : Instagram | TikTok | Podcast
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Trigger Warnings : This episode talks about child abuse, kidnapping and CSA. Please use discretion when listening.
When she was just 15, Meg Appelgate was abducted by two strangers in the middle of the night from her home in California. Over the course of the next 6 months Meg would enter a behavioral modification program called Chrysalis in northern Montana where she would spend the next 3 years. These programs go by the names "youth residential treatment centers", "wilderness programs", "boot camps", or "therapeutic boarding schools" among others, but they are what we now know as the Troubled Teen Industry, a vile abusive system of control that Meg is fighting to end.
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Meg's Book! - Becoming Unsilenced
Former Campers Speak Out on Trails Carolina
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It was just past year that Anne took pause and started digging into her admittedly "weird childhood". After listening to the podcast Nobody Should Believe Me, she started to suspect that she may have been the victim of medical child abuse, what is more commonly known as Munchausen by Proxy. With an unhealed and unwilling mother to answer her questions, Anne dove into everything she could consume to process the trauma she experienced as a young girl. In our chat we get into the triggers and possible reasons for her mother's actions, as well as the generational trauma we both are breaking free from.
Show Notes
Nobody Should Believe Me Podcast
The Curious Case of Natalia Grace
The Prison Confessions of Gypsy Rose Blanchard
Medical Child Abuse : A Review by Subspeciality
Factors related to medical neglect recurrence and foster care and adoption services
We Came Here To Forget by Andrea Dunlop
Dying to be Ill : True Stories of Medical Deception
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Last year I received a heartbreaking email from a mother who had felt she was running out of options; her daughter was stuck in a controlling cult, isolated from friends and family, and she hadn't seen her in years. Over several months I met with Sandy to discuss her story and the history behind how she got here. The more I heard the more I wondered; Was Sandy's daughter a strong, independent spirit? Or was there something more calculated and nefarious at play?
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The Truth About ITOWN Church - Facebook Support Group
An Open Letter to ITOWN (from a former member)
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Sean Munger is back to share the story of Glenn W. Turner! Arguably one of the earliest HunBros of all time, with such hits as "Fake it til you Make it!", Koscot Interplanetary and the Dare to Be Great! course scam. In our chat, Sean recounts the life, times and legal troubles of the early MLM Kingpin Glenn W. Turner, a man so obsessed with fame, success, wealth and greed that it lead to his ultimate downfall and felony conviction.
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Connect with Sean : YouTube
Salesman Documentary (Amazon Prime)
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Lacey had been out of high demand control for years when she sat down to watch a TV show and was triggered by her past experiences. From her Gideon Roots, and Romanian Orphan Trips to her life as a DINK in Quixtar, Lacey definitely had a pattern of cults and high demand control she couldn't see until it was long in her rearview mirror. In our chat we cover how Quixtar came and went, coaching scams, Costco, the public perception of MLMs and what Amway calls "The Process".
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Small Business Shoutout! Starla from Star Crafts & Co! She makes adorable and sassy AntiMLM merch to show the world You're Unrecruitable Hun! Save 10% on orders of $10+ with code ROBERTAROX (Have a small business and wanna be on our SBS? Hit us up!)
Watch Scientology & The Aftermath
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Kurtis just wanted to have a Scentsy party to help a friend, and ended up using his party points to join the team. When the annual convention went digital during the pandemic, Kurtis's megahun upline refused to let it get her down, renting a massive house in Gatlinburg, Tennessee and hosting her own event. We also chat about Disney World's upcoming Scentsy attraction, Smellephants on Parade.
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Justin Darnell Comedy : Gatlinburg Official
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Nineteen years ago Marc and Claire Headley escaped Scientology, the cult they had grown up in, and started their journey to real freedom. In Part 2 of our conversation, we go deeper down the rabbit hole into OSA, Fair Gaming and how Anonymous joined the good fight. Plus how the rage baiting and hate sport of social media advocacy fuels the algorithm, Marc's juicy inside secrets, Car School and of course, Tom Cruise.
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The Chaos Machine by Max Fisher
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Nineteen years ago Marc and Claire Headley escaped Scientology, the cult they had grown up in, and started their journey to real freedom. In Part 1 of our conversation with special guest host Michelle Carpenter, Marc and Claire share about their lives climbing the bridge, their early advocacy, South Park, how Xenu gets a bad rap and a possible answer to the question that's been asked for 18 years; "Where's Shelly?".
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Scientology Tax Exempt Celebration
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Gina Pezzullo has a unique perspective when it comes to MLMs and utilizing social media. Back when she first joined in 2001, smart phones, apps and social media didn't exist. In fact, parties were local, in home and came with forms to fill out while you shopped. One single bounced check or declined credit card could wreak havoc on the hostess's entire party. It was a stark contrast to the highly accessible online shopping world today, and it's not surprising to learn that the viral trends of MLM selling impacted how e-commerce operates today.
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4 Reasons MLMs Must Harness the Direct Selling Power of Social Media
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While browsing the posts on Bluesky, Michelle stumbled across a post for a short film using #antimlm called The Downline. We decided to watch it on Patreon and after I decided to reach out to the filmmaker, Rachel Weatherly and ask her to come chat about her films The Downline and The Hun, her inspirations for the films, her own MLM experiences and what's next for Poppy the Megahun.
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Eerie, Indiana : S1 E1 Foreverware
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It's Valentine's Day AND Life After MLM's 3rd birthday! So to celebrate, we've got a bonus episode loaded with Romance Scam Horror Stories and Red Flag Education. Today's stories were compiled from Reddit's Scam Subthread, articles on Romance Scams, the FTC and LAMLM listener, Jolie! Have a safe Valentine's Day and don't fall for a romance scammer!
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Back during the pandemic, I got hooked on a reality show called Love is Blind, I couldn't get enough. But as the seasons progressed, there was a level of concern that turned my watching into more of a fascination than fandom. So when Nick Thompson, star of Season 2, started comparing the show to a cult in the media and describing a level of control I could definitely relate to, I knew we had a lot to talk about. Just in time for Valentine's Day Nick and I discuss in detail the "Cult of Reality TV ", how it ruined his life, and what he's doing to change the industry.
Show Notes
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"Love is Blind is like a Cult"
Love is Like Solitary Confinement
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One of the biggest content requests on my social media has been to collaborate with Hannah Alonzo. So I sent her a message and she was happy to oblige! If you aren't familiar with Hannah (or her cat Zeke!) get ready to fall in love with one of the most compassionate AntiMLM content creators on YouTube. In our conversation we talk about how far AntiMLM has come, Family Vloggers, what it's like to live your life on camera, and what kind of backlash she got when she announced her pregnancy.
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Everyone loves an Amway episode, and this chat with Darren Mudd is no exception. As our deep dive into Amway in Season 4 is just getting started, we meet Darren who tells us about being an Ambot in the UK, recruiting at University, and the DTI investigation against Amway. Plus we dip our toes into the conversation about cyrpto and around scamming and scambaiting. Stay tuned at the end for a bit of "Scam Poetry" from Darren! Full video and clips on YouTube!
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Heather Tobin has been involved with MLM one way or another for the past 33 years. The farther Heather got away from The MLM Complex, the easier it was for her to see connections between the business model and the stress, depression, anxiety, and other issues she was facing. Now, as a mental health advocate she looks back on her time in MLM with a clearer eye and understanding of the systemic ways MLM's prey on not only our physical and financial health, but our mental health as well.
Show Notes
Can We Stop Ignoring How MLMs Prey on Emotionally Vulnerable Women?
Mental Health in MLM by Brandie Hadfield
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Dr. Amy Saltzman spent over 30 years with a Life Coach who kept her controlled within an intricate web of lies. Once the psychologist read the results of an incredibly thorough mental health evaluation, it was only then that Dr. Amy could see every silvery thread her spider had woven. In the years since, Amy has made it her life's work to help us "Spot a Spider" and see the red flags of undue influence. In our chat we cover our own experiences, what signs to watch out for, and what to do if you think you may have a spider in your midst.
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Scout's Honor : A New Doc Details the Secret Files of the Boy Scouts
Scout's Honor : The Secret Files of the Boy Scouts of America (Netflix)
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Kelli Copter was declared a Suppressive Person at age 6. The Church of Scientology told her parents to handle her or disconnect from her, and so the handling lasted 10 years until at 16 Kelli was kicked out of her house and the disconnection began. In our chat Kelli discusses what that "handling" entailed, the effects of living in an abusive home, her battles with disordered eating and the worst decision she's ever made.
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Branded an SP at 6 : Kelli Copter
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Thanks Russ for the inspiration to do my first Best of 2023 clip show! This year was FILLED with some of the best and most amazing chats we've ever had on LAMLM and it was so hard to choose! Thank you to everyone who responded to my call to action and sent me in their favorite episodes, moments, and guests! I am so thankful to every single person who has ever supported the show and this is a fun way for me to say THANK YOU and end 2023 with a BANG, HUN! Happy New Year and we will see you in 2024 with Season 4!!!
Show Notes
Cults
Fundie Fridays | Nikieta & Asha | Apostate Alex | Lindsay Williams | Pastor Rob | Kendyl | Sam | Tara & Floyd Oathout | Liz Ferris
Frauds & Scams
Gina & Fyre | Amanda Fangman | Kristin Hoffman "Baker Bettie"
MLMs
Ashley Richards | April Murphy | Cindy Adams | Andrew & Will Thompson P1 | P2 | Danielle Hanneman | Jane Marie | The MLM Twins
Amway
Amway Tools Cult Scam | Steve | Issac Ramos | Cori Smelker | Emma & Grand Rapids | Meggan Lanahan
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Music : The Magic of Christmas by Geoff Harvey
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In the liminal space between Christmas and New Year's it's best to just have fun and keep it low stress! So.... remember my Holiday Magic record? It's time to break it out and break it down with our TRIPLE Emerald Princess of Robots, Michelle Carpenter! Plus some sneak peeks for 2024, and what we've got in store for the LAMLM Community!!
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Music : The Magic of Christmas by Geoff Harvey
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It's our Christmas episode!!! Back in our live episode from Dallas, I mentioned The Body Shop at Home being an MLM to the shock of most of the live audience and teased that we had an episode coming up soon... Well this is that episode!!! Jules is joining us all the way from Down Under in Sydney, to talk about the MLMs that plague the Outback and what these scams look like in Australia.
Show Notes
How Consumers Fell Out of Love with The Body Shop @ Home
Aurelius Acquires The Body Shop
Go (1999) - Confederated Products Clip
On Becoming a God in Central Florida
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Music : The Magic of Christmas by Geoff Harvey
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For 10 years Brandie Hadfield found herself on the hamster wheel of her MLM, trying to make sense of it all. It wasn't until the middle of the Covid-19 Pandemic and seeing the disgusting predatory nature of MLM with her own eyes that she decided to ask more questions and look for the answers herself. In our chat we discuss the seldom recognized unfair advantages in MLM, your MLM cult identity and the healing journey to getting yourself back.
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Connect with Brandie : Instagram | Substack
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Are you enjoying Holiday Magic so far? Today we're headed to Church with The Reverend Jen and King James of the wildly popular YouTube channel Fundie Fridays! In our chat we talk about the similarities between our missions, our thoughts on the Duggars, Sister Wives, Purity Culture and all the MLM parties they've been to. Plus we chat a bit about some of the history, loopholes and economic implications of Multi Level Marketing for a little sneak peek into next season's focus!
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Connect with James : Instagram
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After 14 years in Amway, Meggan decided this year, that she needed to leave. Spending her young adult years in Amway had a profound impact on Meggan and her ability to "adult" and function in normal society outside of the cult. It wasn't until a tragic accident, and the resulting behavior of the higher ups in her LOA that Meggan found herself questioning the motivation of authority and the demand for a dittos autoship she didn't need.
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Amway & The Younger Generation
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Music : The Magic of Christmas by Geoff Harvey
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Have you met Ashley? She's a lot in the best way, and since we both have podcasts about cults and scams, I thought she might wanna come on and make some content together. We talk about everything under the sun, from our own f*cked up experiences to creepy holiday festivals and the cult of being a Swiftie. This episode is a little all over the place and has a bit of something for anyone that's ever thought "That's SO f*cked up!"
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Connect with Ashley : Instagram | TSFU IG | Website
Large Group Awareness Training
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Music : The Magic of Christmas by Geoff Harvey
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Welcome to Day 1 of Holiday Magic! And what better person to help welcome in the month long of fun, than The Dream's Jane Marie! I know the impact that The Dream and Jane's work had on my journey out of MLM, so I can only imagine what the movement has experienced! Jane and I have a fun chat about the early days of AntiMLM, her time at This American Life, The DSA & The BIG Baddies of MLM, and what we really think about Robert FitzPatrick.
Show Notes
Connect with Jane Marie! Instagram | TikTok | Twitter | Website
Pre-Order Selling The Dream Now!
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Music : The Magic of Christmas by Geoff Harvey
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Sending out Cultvember in STYLE! Have you seen the two new docuseries on Twin Flames Universe? They are a must watch for anyone who is a fan of cults getting exposed. The shows follow some of the victims of TFU as they tell their stories from their time inside the community and the dangerous advice being given inside the organization. Being familiar with this sort of thing, I decided to join the Facebook group to see what it was all about and what the members were saying about the group, the belief system and the media exposure. What I found was not shocking, but it was terrifying all the same.
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Music : The Limits of the Cosmos by Geoff Harvey
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*Content Warning : In this episode we discuss excommunication, death and suicide. Please use discretion when listening.*
Liz Gale was born a 3rd Generation Scientologist. In fact, her family was into Scientology, before it was ever called Scientology. From the moment Liz's grandmother picked up that copy of Dianetics, it set her family on a tragic trajectory until Liz herself decided to break the generational trauma that L. Ron Hubbard created. In our chat we discuss what excommunication looks like inside the church and the worst possible outcomes for those who feel like they have nowhere else to run.
Show Notes
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Confessions of an Ex-Scientologist Pothead
South Park - S9 E12 Trapped in the Closet
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When I first started looking into Scientology stories that needed to be told, Michelle asked me if I knew about Liz Ferris and the story of her dad Bob Ferris. You see, Scientology is really good at a couple things; disconnection, abuse and lies - but I was WHOLLY unprepared for the story that Liz had to tell. Listening to Liz recount her life, from as early as she can remember as a Second Gen Scientologist, to the strange and devastating phone call that changed the trajectory of her life, one thing is for sure, Liz Ferris is a warrior.
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Our first Scientology episode of the Cultvember season! Meet Alex, who was previously the Director of Public Book Sales at the Church of Scientology London, until he was kicked out and labeled a โTrouble Source". Which works perfectly because I have a lot of questions and Alex is here to let us know what's up with the whole MLMy side hustle of book sales in CoS. Along the way we break down Alex's own story, and some of the more complicated policies of L. Ron Hubbard.
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As we move out of Evangelicalism and into Scientology, Marilyn Honig is the perfect guest to bridge the gap. Raised in trauma, Marilyn started her life as a Lost Child, falling between the cracks in the systems put in place to help her. She ended up being adopted by a large Pentecostal family, entrenched in the bells and whistles of the tent revival movement, complete with speaking in tongues and laying hands to cast out demons. By the time she was 20 she was deep in another religious group that controlled her every move, and it wasn't until she became a mother herself that she found the fire inside to break free.
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In continuing our evangelical education for Cult Month, I couldn't leave out a discussion about Bill Gothard, IBLP and the normalization of child abuse at his hands. And there was no other person who came to mind to discuss this topic besides Lindsey Williams, one of the stars from the documentary Shiny Happy People. As one of "Gothard's Girls" Lindsey has a unique perspective into life at Headquarters, what's expected of you and what actually happens behind closed doors.
Show Notes
Connect with Lindsey : Instagram | TikTok | MUA | Links
Coalition for Responsible Home Education
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We're LIVE from Dallas, Texas! Come hang out with us and meet Kathy, a woman who answered an Instagram post and ended up sitting next to me on stage, recording this podcast in front of a live audience! Talk about being put on the spot! But Kathy is an incredible sport as she tells us about growing up Baptist, joining the ICoC in grad school, and trying her hand at Beauty Counter, all before facing some had truths and admitting what she had known deep down all along. It's a coming out story that only gets better in a room full of friends. Thank you to all the listeners who came and joined in on the fun!
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Compulsory Heterosexuality and Lesbian Existence (1980)
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Music : The Limits of the Cosmos by Geoff Harvey
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*In this episode we discuss evangelical deconstruction, church abuse, white supremacy and misogyny. Please use discretion when listening.*
Did you happen to catch either of the Hillsong docs? Because I have questions, and I couldn't think of a better person to ask than Janice Lagata. As one of the founding members of Hillsong NYC, Janice remembers a time before Carl Lentz. Before NBA players, and Justin Bieber and Selena Gomez and 6 sermons a Sunday. Before the crowds of fans flocked to church to tithe to a group of nepo babies and their cronies, as they used the collection plate to fund their extravagant lives. Janice shares her thoughts on church planting, deconstruction, white supremacy and misogyny in modern day Christianity.
Show Notes
Connect with Janice : Instagram | TikTok | Podcast | Website
Hillsong : A Megachurch Exposed
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Music : The Limits of the Cosmos by Geoff Harvey
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After a heavy month of True Crime, we are starting off Cult Month with the lovely April Ajoy to discuss Purity Culture, Christian Nationalism and detoxing from Evangelicalism. From her days of wearing a purity ring and answering phone calls at Pat Robertson's 700 Club, to her personal experiences deconstructing her beliefs and having the hard conversations, April never loses her sense of humor.
Show Notes
Connect with April : Instagram | TikTok | Twitter | Threads
The Non Binary Marriage Podcast
The Rise of Christian Nationalism
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Music : The Limits of the Cosmos by Geoff Harvey
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*This episode includes details of sexual assault, and discusses the topics of consent, purity culture, identity and trauma. Please use discretion when listening.*
20 year ago, Emily Ragland was a freshman at Guilford College in North Carolina, playing on the softball team and studying to enter the field of civil rights. The Quaker based college appealed to her as a Christian, POC woman looking to make her place in the world for the first time in her life. But on October 31st, 2003 a violent attack changed every trajectory in Emily's life and left her to fend for herself in a system that wasn't built for her. For the 20th anniversary of that horrific day, Emily shares with us her whole story, and how it's shaped who she is today.
Show Notes
National Sexual Assault Hotline : 800-656-HOPE (4673)
Connect with Emily : LinkedIn | Instagram
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Music : Creepy Musicbox by Dmitry Taras
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*This episode talks about the details in a current murder case. As of publication, this case is still ongoing.*
Today is full of bonuses! We've got 3 hometown hauntings, some details on an ongoing MLM-adjacent murder case, and a chat with the host of Murderish, Jami Rice! Jami and I talk about ethical true crime, what it's like to be a podcaster in this space, and her thoughts on Fyre Festival. The LIVE taping of this episode is available on Patreon as a member exclusive live show!
Show Notes
Murder of Jared Bridegan (ongoing)
Shanna Gardner-Fernandez Extradited
The Murder of Gabriel Fernandez
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*This episode contains depictions of violence including murder. Please use discretion when listening.*
What's going on?? At the age of 12, Collier Landry helped solve his mother's murder, at the hands of his psychopathic, narcissist father. And if that wasn't incredible enough, he spent the next decade giving his mother a voice and finding the peace he needed to move on in his true crime documentary, A Murder in Mansfield. Collier and I also go deeper into the ethical true crime debate and talk about the impacts of content creation on victims.
Show Notes
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It's the Great Pumpkin Charlie Brown
Forensic Files : Foundation of Lies
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In a military career that spans her entire adult life, over the years Claire has witnessed a lot of strange behavior that caused her to pause and ask questions. Whether an obsessive classmate, a company draped in red flags, or a scummy dad at the park, her hackles were always up. In an anthology of true crime stories that Claire has been oddly close to, we learn how she navigated these encounters and the importance of trusting your gut.
Show Notes
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Terra Newell might be best known for taking down Dirty John, but she's definitely more than that! As a True Crime Survivor, Terra is an advocate for victims and survivors, as well as hosting a podcast called Survivor Squad. I've been a huge fan of Terra for a long time so I couldn't wait to chat to her about her story, her healing journey and her thoughts on "Ethical True Crime".
Show Notes
Connect with Terra : Instagram | TikTok | Twitter | YouTube | Survivor Squad
National Domestic Violence Hotline : 800-799-7233
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From the moment I heard about Fyre Festival, I was hooked. And not because I wanted to go, I was leaving my own scam at the time but because of the scammer at the forefront, Billy McFarland. It may seem odd to have a "favorite fraudster" but Billy takes the cake, from his earliest scams in childhood to his Fyre Festival 2 vision for "making it right", he's the GRIFT that keeps on GRIFTING. After speaking with Gina and starting our conversation about Fyre, I felt it was necessary to dive into the man who started it all and leave very little on the table.
Show Notes
A True Tale Of A Truly Haunted House
My Billy McFarland Playlist on TikTok
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After making lots of Billy McFarland content on TikTok, Gina reached out to me with a story I had never heard before. After the disaster, Gina who was there to help fun the event, and her team of 40 employees were stranded on Great Exuma for way too long, without any insight or solid plan for getting home. From the Lord of the Flies style pandemonium, flaming mattresses, sharp rocks, dusty cheese sandwiches and guests black out drunk from pallets of tequila, not all of the story was told in the documentaries. With her eye witness accounts of what actually happened in those days leading up to and just after Fyre, I promise even the biggest Fyre coinsures with learn something they didn't know.
*Bonus Ghost Story by Tyler Carpenter*
Show Notes
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It's Halloween Season! Welcome back to PART 2 of both our Bodie Curse Ghost Story, and the ending of Amber's story with Bomb Party!
After we got a bit into her rise throughout the company and the countless hours of labor exploitation in the name of building trainings in Part 1, in Part 2 we dive move into the passive aggressive bullying aspect of her experience and the downfall of her Bomb Party Empire. As a "load bearing brick", there is a lot of pressure put on you to perform and fall in line, and asking too many of the wrong questions, and unintentionally making others "look bad" paints a target you can never shake. And to clear, it was never about the fruit basket.
Show Notes
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Happy October! We've got holiday bonuses, starting with a story of a cursed ghost town in the high desert of California to accompany our MOST cursed episode to date! Audio issues are common in interviews, and most can be fixed in post... but it took 3 different recording sessions for this chat with Amber of Bomb Party to take. I've experienced Fair Gaming before but Kayla agreed, this felt otherworldly! Luckily, we were able to get it done and bring it to you in 2 parts! In part 1 we meet Amber, a Military wife who was willing to do what she had to do to keep her family as intact as possible. Enter Bomb Party. Although Amber isn't a jewelry person, she got swept up in the game and was racking up quite the high score when she accidently made herself a unwitting target.
Resources
Bodie, CA : A Ghostly Ghost Town
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Lianne is a French Canadian living in New Brunswick who's been in more MLMs than she can keep track of. From a couple of solid US-based standards, to some exclusive Canadian brands even I had never heard of, Lianne paints us a picture of a young woman trying to find her place in the world with the limited resources available to her. Past abusive relationships, the uncertainty of Military life, and working emotional baggage made Lianne resilient and strong, so a couple of Pyramid Schemes aren't going to keep her down, just don't promise her a hat.
Show Notes:
In Memory of Jessie Lee Ward - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeXPvj5ixZM
Newborn Feathers - https://www.reddit.com/r/antiMLM/comments/bf10bz/mixed_mlm_messages_from_newborn_feathers/
Dragon's Den CA - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragons%27_Den_(Canadian_TV_series)
Tiber River - https://www.reddit.com/r/antiMLM/comments/knj9ml/no_why_are_you_an_mlm_curse_you_tiber_river/
Tiber River Wrongful Termination Lawsuit - https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/tiber-river-naturals-wrongful-termination-lawsuit-pregnancy-1.5921770
Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
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*This episode discusses topics that may be triggering to some including, purity culture, sex and sexuality. Please use descretion when listening.*
Sam reached out to me to add another level of understanding to the complicated topic of Purity Culture and how those teachings in our childhood affect us and our choices as adults. Our conversation leads us down a path filled with soapboxes, empowerment, and laughing through the trauma as we unpack the here and now.
Show Notes
The Princess and The Kiss - https://www.christianbook.com/the-princess-and-the-kiss/jennie-bishop/9780871628688/pd/628686
Purity Culture - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purity_culture
Asexuality - https://www.thetrevorproject.org/resources/article/understanding-asexuality/
Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
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Steve joined Amway over 20 years ago, as a young naive man, looking for a steady income. Back then he was focus on building his products business, eventually making it to Emerald, but not seeing the same profits from others around him who had more of a "Tools" focus. It wasn't until Steve started asking questions nobody wanted to answer that he started taking a closer look at where the money was coming from.
Show Notes
Amway Systems - https://www.amwaywiki.com/Active_Amway_Business_Support_Systems
Amway in the 1990's - https://amwayconnections.com/amway-celebrates-60-years/amway-in-1990s-magic-begins/
Rubbermaid & Amway - https://www.nytimes.com/1997/10/07/business/rubbermaid-amway-deal.html
Amway in the 90's : Organic Farming - https://amwayconnections.com/amway-celebrates-60-years/amway-in-1990s-acquiring-certified-organic-farms/
Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
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Growing up in the Grand Rapids Michigan area, Amway is a part of every day normal life. Even if you're not a fan, it's almost literally impossible not to support the company in some way. From the medical research facilities, to the concert halls and arenas, the Devos/Van Andel family have made their mark on West Michigan in more ways than one. Emma shares some of her experiences growing up surrounded by Amway, and some interesting inside looks into the lives of MLM billionaires.
Show Notes
Grand Rapid/Ada Township Slide Show - TBD
Redeveloping Ada, MI - https://www.mlive.com/business/west-michigan/2013/05/amway_in_ada_doug_devos_steve.html
How Ada Transformed over 10 Years - https://www.woodtv.com/news/kent-county/old-village-new-vision-how-ada-transformed-over-10-years/
Amway's Mark on West Michigan - https://www.freep.com/story/news/2018/09/06/amway-richard-devos-dies/1211469002/
Tour Amway - https://www.amwayglobal.com/tour-amway/
Amway's Peter Island - https://www.ahchospitality.com/properties/peter-island-resort-spa
Richard & Helen Devos Tribute - https://www.gvsu.edu/devostribute/
Fox Motors - https://www.foxmotors.com/blog/index.htm
Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
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*This episode includes conversations about Purity Culture, sex and the AIDS crisis and is considered 18+ in content. Please use discretion when listening.*
I never thought in a million years that I would be making an episode on Life After MLM about sex, but when Pastor Rob reached out to me to agree with my takes on the dangers of Purity Culture and how he can use the bible to prove it, I jumped at the chance. I mean sex is the only reason any of us are here, and to demonize it and twist scripture to fit this odd narrative to control women for the sake of men's needs seems culty and gross. This episode is for anyone who was ever shamed just for being human and having sexual wants and desires outside of what "society" deemed appropriate.
Show Notes
Purity Culture - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purity_culture
I Kissed Dating Goodbye - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Kissed_Dating_Goodbye
Song of Songs KJV - https://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/k/kjv/kjv-idx?type=DIV1&byte=2578814
Song of Songs Modern Translation - https://www.leonard-ng.com/song-of-songs/
Who is Ryan White? - https://ryanwhite.hrsa.gov/about/ryan-white
Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
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If you know your LuLaHistory you know Courtney Harwood, the first "mentor" to leave featured in both LuLaRich and the Vice Documentary. A sit down with Courtney is probably one of my most requested interviews and it wasn't until recently that we could really find the time to make that happen. It's been almost 2 years since LuLaRich dropped and I wanted to catch up, put some rumors to rest, get the tea that was TOO HOT for Amazon and see what she was up to. And in TRUE Courtney fashion, she did NOT disappoint.
Show Notes
How LuLaRoe Pressured their Sellers into Surgery - https://www.realself.com/news/lularich-courtney-harwood-lularoe-plastic-surgery
Pruvit Ketones Review - https://illuminatelabs.org/blogs/health/pruvit-ketones-review
Purvit Sued over Flavoring - https://behindmlm.com/companies/lacore-enterprises/pruvit-sued-for-use-of-petrochemical-derived-flavoring/
EPA v. Pruvit - https://oag.ca.gov/system/files/prop65/complaints/2020-01339C6410.pdf
Colorectal Cancer Screenings - https://www.cdc.gov/cancer/colorectal/basic_info/screening/index.htm
Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
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As a self proclaimed "MLM Addict in Recovery", Cindy Adams has jumped through a lot of hoops in the name of Boss Babery. From attending to many in-home parties to count, to traveling internationally across the country, she's made a lot of Hunbot level choices. So when she reached out with a story about almost getting roped into Amway as a teen, (and that's just the beginning!) I knew we had to chat. Cindy brings the shock, the cringe and the belly laughs as we recount her time in MLM.
Show Notes
My Fave MLM Dupes : https://amzn.to/44XVt6w
Trump v. ACN - https://www.courthousenews.com/pyramid-scheme-lawsuit-drops-claims-against-trump-children/
Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
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*Content Warning : This episode talks about The No Name Fellowship and discusses the death of a child, among other cult abuses. Please use discretion when listening.*
Shortly after Stacey's episode came out I got an email from another survivor of the "No Name Fellowship" who had even more to add to the story. With very little information about this group out there, any additional pieces to the puzzle would be helpful in understanding the complex cult; but I did NOT expect what was waiting for me on the other side of the microphone, and how an hour long chat added even more pieces to other puzzles we've been working on. My conversation with Jordan was filled with eye opening confessions, WTF moments and lots of (not at all silent) laughter.
Show Notes
Life After MLM Merch!! - https://www.bonfire.com/store/life-after-mlm/
Knowledge Fight - https://knowledgefight.com/
Erica Lafferty's GoFundMe - https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-lafferty-beat-lymphoma-survivorssurvive
Alex Jones's Bankruptcy - https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/18/us/politics/alex-jones-bankruptcy.html
No Name Fellowship - https://culteducation.com/group/1081-no-name-fellowship.html
Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
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Have you ever heard a Hun proclaim they owned their own business, with silently screaming inside that joining an MLM isn't the same thing as being a business owner? Have you ever been curious about some of the less obvious things a real small business owner would be concerned about that might never cross the mind of someone in an MLM? Well you're in luck! Olivia is an internal auditor by trade, who also fell prey to an MLM and quickly saw how the scam can pull you in. Now she runs a successful business of her own and wanted to talk about the real differences between being your own boss and being The Boss.
Show Notes
Connect with Olivia on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/olivia-whipple-07009118/
Celeb's LOVE S&D! They're just like us! - https://people.com/style/ruth-bader-ginsburg-stella-dot-necklace-kardashians/
RBG's Necklace is a Stella & Dot gift - https://www.jckonline.com/editorial-article/ruth-bader-ginsburgs-collar-stella/
The Audit Library - https://theauditlibrary.com/
Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
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A couple months ago, Russ came to me with an idea I fully supported; attending a motivational coaching seminar with a starry-eyed friend to keep him safe from being scammed. Spending a good chunk of change on the largest VIP ticket, he agreed to keep his eyes peeled, take notes and report back, but Russ's expectation verses his reality were two entirely different things.
Show Notes
Aspire Tour - https://www.aspiretour.com/home
Aspire Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/aspiretour/
Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
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*Content Warning: This episode deals with Medical Child Abuse, including examples and descriptions of actual abuse in MbP cases. Please use caution when listening.*
๏ปฟIn continuing our education into the exploitation of children, I invited my friend Andrea Dunlop on the show to open up the conversation about Medical Child Abuse. Andrea is the host of the podcast Nobody Should Believe Me which deals in the victims stories and education surrounding "Factitious Disorder Imposed on Another" or as it's more commonly known, Munchausen by Proxy. In our chat we cover the red flags to keep your eyes on, the statistics revolving around this heinous female violence, and it's crossovers into MLM scams.
Show Notes
Follow Andrea! - Website | Instagram | Patreon | LinkTree
Nobody Should Believe Me Season 2 OUT NOW! - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188
Munchausen Support - https://www.munchausensupport.com/
We Came Here to Forget - https://amzn.to/3K2uw9h
American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children - https://www.apsac.org/
Mommy Dead and Dearest - https://amzn.to/3rr4Vk6
Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
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You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
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*Content Warning : This episode deals with heavy topics such as religious trauma, mentions of child abuse, trafficking and SA allegations, and domestic violence. Please use caution when listening.*
Nikieta and Asha were both members of ICOC, or The International Churches of Christ - a dangerous religious cult with ties to child abuse and running a religious pyramid scheme. Both were young women entering college when they were recruited just 8 years apart, in eerily similar stories. Now on the other side of deconstruction, they are working though religious trauma, finding themselves again and surprisingly owe the eye opening realization to a familiar cause.
Show Notes
Follow Nikieta - Website | Instagram | TikTok | YouTube
Follow Asha - Website | Instagram
ICOC Rolling Stone Article - https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/international-churches-of-christ-cult-sexual-abuse-indoctrination-pyramid-scheme-lawsuit-1234654868/
Naked Pastor - https://nakedpastor.com/
Sounds Like MLM - https://www.facebook.com/groups/486766362100200
Kip McKean - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kip_McKean
Church leaders concealed sexual abuse of young children, lawsuits allege - https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2023-02-28/church-sexual-abuse-allegations
Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
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Sarah joined Scentsy because she wanted a family vacation, and somehow found herself in the owner's direct downline, without much help or guidance. As Sarah climbed the ranks to SuperStar Consultant she started to noticed something fishy, consultants breaking the rules, out spending each other on stock, buying ranks, and literally faking it until they make it. When she experiences some huge life changes, Sarah throws herself into Scentsy, and spirals into the darkest time of her life.
Show Notes
/r AntiMLM : Scentsy - https://www.reddit.com/r/antiMLM/comments/hpacfz/scentsy_is_an_mlm/
The Sam Dee -Scentsy Exposed - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZskI2au10jY
Tiff's Scentsy Shenanigans - https://mlmtruth.org/2017/12/21/tiffs-scentsy-shenanigans-my-mlm-experience/
Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
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In the Amazon Prime Video DocuSeries Shiny Happy People we meet Tara and Floyd Oathout, two former homeschoolers whose love story started in the electronics section at Walmart. I was instantly charmed by their sarcastic wit and loving banter and knew they had a much bigger story than the show had room for. Through amazing adversity, and over coming some of the darkest times at true rock bottom, these two have held strong and both fought their way back from the nearly dead.
*If you can't get enough of these two, this episode includes an Exclusive Member only Q&A on Patreon!*
Show Notes
Watch Shiny Happy People - https://amzn.to/3pfUaQC
Follow Tara and Floyd! - TikTok | Instagram
The Gifts of Imperfection by Brenรฉ Brown - https://amzn.to/44aQ9vW
How to Do the Work: Recognize Your Patterns, Heal from Your Past, and Create Your Self by Dr, Nicole LePera - https://amzn.to/4481uNg
Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
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*This episode contains topics that may be triggering to some, including religious trauma, purity culture, infertility and sex education. Please use discretion when listening.*
Growing up as the only daughter in a deeply religious Baptist home was an interesting experience for Kendyl. Her father was strict and adhered to the principles of Christian "Purity Culture", a fact made evident to her by all the double standards she was witnessing. As she grew older and gained more autonomy, Kendyl started to unpack years of hypocrisy, shame, and religious trauma, choosing to understand the systems that made her who she is, where it all went wrong, and how she can change the future.
Show Notes
Watch Shiny Happy People - https://amzn.to/3pfUaQC
The Flaw at the Center of Purity Culture - https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/03/purity-culture-evangelical-church-harms-women/618438/
How an Abstinence Pledge in the โ90s Shamed a Generation of Evangelicals - https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/06/us/abstinence-pledge-evangelicals.html
D.A.R.E - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_Abuse_Resistance_Education
To BORG or not to BORG: Safe alternative or dangerous trend? - https://dailytargum.com/article/2023/03/to-borg-or-not-to-borg-safe-alternative-or-dangerous-trend
Dozens of students hospitalized during 'Blarney Blowout' in Amherst - https://www.wcvb.com/article/blarney-blowout-2023-umass-amherst-dozens-hospitalized/43197995
Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
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Before Kristin Hoffman made her name as "Baker Bettie", she was fresh out of culinary school and looking for her dream job. One day she happened upon a Craigslist Ad that seemed too good to be true (as they often are) and took a chance on a family needing a private chef for a child with a special needs diet. But what Kristin signed up for and what Kristin actually got, were two very different scenarios.
Show Notes
Follow Kristin! - Instagram | Facebook | TikTok | Website
Bettie's Chicago - https://bettieschicago.com/
Labor Exploitation - https://www.stopthetraffik.org/lets-talk-labour-exploitation/
The Intersection of Labor Exploitation and Human Trafficking - https://combathumantrafficking.org/blog/2020/01/29/labor-trafficking/
Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
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*Content Warning - This episode contains stories about extreme physical child abuse and neglect, including death. Please use caution when listening.*
Stacey was just a small child when her family joined a non denominational Christian church without an official name. As time went on, the group got more extreme, prepping for "The End Times" and engaging in publiFc spankings. It wasn't until a young boy at the church died, that the outside world was forced to get involved, and Stacey's family was in the middle of it. Through years of therapy and internal work, Stacey is finally ready to share her experiences publicly for the first time, with us.
Show Notes
Watch Shiny Happy People - https://amzn.to/3MHgmLr
The No Name Fellowship - https://culteducation.com/group/1081-no-name-fellowship.html
Witness Says Sect Leader Tried To Bring Boy Back From The Dead - https://culteducation.com/group/1081-no-name-fellowship/15367-witness-says-sect-leader-tried-to-bring-boy-back-from-the-dead.html
Father Sentenced to 41 Months in Death of Diabetic Son - https://apnews.com/article/087ca0b6010396a7b30cb99d7a525308
Understanding Cults: A Foundational Course for Clinicians - https://freedomofmind.com/courses/understanding-cults-a-foundational-course-for-clinicians/
Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
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Samantha was a casino cocktail waitress, working the graveyard shift when she decided to change her direction in life and go into real estate. After getting her license and becoming a realtor she was introduced to eXp Realty and joined a local broker. Samantha and I go down the rabbit hole of MLM Real Estate - yes, there truly is an MLM for EVERYTHING! - answer some questions as to how Real Estate MLMs are different than the already complicated world of Real Estate, and even her talk about her time through the ringer in LuLaRoe and Piphany.
Show Notes
Watch Shiny Happy People June 2nd - https://amzn.to/43oTlUa
Herbalife Settlement - https://www.naturalproductsinsider.com/legal-compliance/herbalife-pay-125-million-settle-class-action-suit-over-event-costs
BeachBody Lawsuit - https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2023-05-22/santa-monica-fitness-company-beachbody-lawsuit-exercise-coaches
Shiny Happy People Doc - https://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/pictures/shiny-happy-people-everything-to-know-about-duggar-docuseries/
eXp Income Disclosure - https://exprealty.com/wp-content/uploads/eXp-U.S.-Average-Income-Disclosure-2022-1.pdf
eXp Revenue Share - https://buildingbetteragents.com/exp-realty/revenue-share/
eXp Stock on NASDAQ - https://www.nasdaq.com/market-activity/stocks/expi
eXp "Stock Options" - https://buildingbetteragents.com/exp-realty/stock-awards/
Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
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Shannon McLay is the host of Martinis and Your Money and the Founder and CEO of The Financial Gym, a personal financial services company. So many people leaving MLM feel lost and confused about how to fix the mess that was made and aren't sure where to look, or how to start. It's a scary and taboo subject and Shannon wants to take the shame and emotions out of it so we can better understand how our money works. How do you get out of debt? Is bankruptcy the best solution? Do I have options? How can we teach our children to be smarter than we were, with their money?
Show Notes
Martinis and Your Money - https://martinisandyourmoney.com/
My episode of M&YM - https://martinisandyourmoney.com/show-notes/episode463
The Financial Gym - https://financialgym.com/mlm (Save 20% with code MLM)
Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
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*This episode deals with fatphobia, disordered eating, abuse, white supremacy and sex work. Please use discretion when listening.*
From an early age, Leilah already knew she was different and didn't fit into societies mold of what a "good girl" should be. Even growing up in a more liberal household, she still experienced white supremacy and purity culture from the stance of "what not to be". Through years of unpacking her own internal biases, and a short stint with BeachBody, Leilah discovered herself; a powerful, sex positive force for femmes everywhere, unpacking the stigmas behind intersectional feminism and what it looks like to be different and love yourself for it.
Show Notes
Follow Leilah - Instagram | Website | Podcast | Spotify | LinkTree
Leilah on From Huns to Humans - https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/danielle6575/episodes/EP-91---A-Strippers-Guide-to-Anti-MLM---Leilah---Beachbody-e1pt1fa
Aubrey Gordon - https://www.instagram.com/yrfatfriend/
โYou Just Need to Lose Weightโ: And 19 Other Myths About Fat People by Aubrey Gordon - https://amzn.to/3LoGg5M
Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
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Paging the FTC. What happens when you're so high up in an organization that you experience the the quiet parts out loud? You know the ones, stacking, poaching, scheming and alleged tax fraud - the 4 horsemen of the MLM apocalypse. What happens when you hold more cards than the MLM wants you to have? What happens when you're a big enough load bearing brick that without you, the pyramid has to break some of their own rules to make it work? Lucky for us, Danielle has all the answers and more, and she really needs to share it with us.
Show Notes
Follow Danielle - Instagram
Danielle on From Huns to Humans - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-67-from-ghost-account-to-seller-danielle-hanneman/
PubMed - https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/
DoTerra's Comp Plan - https://media.doterra.com/us/en/flyers/compensation-plan.pdf
Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
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Amanda was a new wife just trying to help pay down their bills when Pampered Chef enticed her with an opportunity and the kitchen of her dreams. The harder she tried to make it work while always struggling to survive, the more obvious the transactional relationship became, until Amanda had enough. She ditched her MLM, faced some harsh truths and made a plan that helped her and her husband tackle over $85K in crippling debt without sacrificing their wants and needs. And she tells us how we can do it too!
Show Notes
Financial Peace University - https://www.ramseysolutions.com/ramseyplus/financial-peace
The Budget Mom - https://www.thebudgetmom.com/
Caleb Hammer - https://www.youtube.com/@CalebHammer
Tori Dunlap : Her First $100K - https://herfirst100k.com/
The Financial Gym - https://financialgym.com/
Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
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Part Two! It wasn't until Andrew and Will watched the 2021 convention turn deadly that they finally had enough and decided to speak out. But speaking their truth was just the beginning of their nightmares. They quickly became the targets of horrific fair gaming from the very same people they once used to call friends, even tracing the cyberstalking to the original source, and the most disgusting shock of all.
Show Notes
Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
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When Andrew Thompson first joined Paparazzi Accessories it wasn't out of spite or vengeance. He and his former partner climbed the multiple ranks effortlessly and were treated like MLM royalty until everything came crashing down, leaving him in the dust. Despite Andrew moving on and rebuilding his PapaKingdom, he had a target on his back he couldn't shake. It wasn't until he watched the 2021 convention turn deadly that he finally had enough and decided to speak out, but that was just the beginning of his nightmares.
Show Notes
$5 Jewelry and an MLM Conference Gone Wrong - https://www.vox.com/the-goods/22688317/mlm-covid-19-pandemic-recruiting-sales-paparazzi
Paparazzi Silent After Deaths - https://www.insideedition.com/paparazzi-accessories-silent-after-at-least-5-die-from-covid-19-following-mlms-convention-loved
11 Deaths Linked to Paparazzi - https://behindmlm.com/companies/11-deaths-linked-to-paparazzi-covid-19-las-vegas-event/
More Deaths from Paparazzi Super Spreader - https://www.reddit.com/r/antiMLM/comments/phz1ca/more_alleged_deaths_from_the_paparazzi_super/
Delta Variant in Nevada Cases Triples - https://www.reviewjournal.com/investigations/delta-variant-found-in-nevada-covid-cases-has-tripled-2389059/
Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
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*This episode mentions abusive relationships, thoughts of suicide and health claims. Please use discretion when listening.*
When you're already experiencing red flags, it's easy to miss the others as they fill up your space and for Kristin it was one thing after the other. From an abusive relationship, into an abusive MLM, a lot of warning signs were excused until the weight of it all was just too much and Kristin felt she had no other options. Luckily, a supportive sisterhood inside the scam helped her though and inadvertently helped her out.
Show Notes
D. Gary Young - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/D._Gary_Young
Brigham Young - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brigham_Young
The United Order - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Order
FDA Warning Letter - https://www.fda.gov/inspections-compliance-enforcement-and-criminal-investigations/warning-letters/young-living-essential-oils-corporate-615777-06102022
YL Class Action - https://www.classaction.org/blog/no-medicinal-benefit-young-living-hit-with-class-action-challenging-essential-oil-health-benefit-claims
Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
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*Content Warning* This episode deals with the human trafficking industry, please use discretion when listening.
Amanda was just a teenager when she left home to join a "Mag Crew", traveling across the country selling magazines door to door. Maybe you've encountered a Mag Crew at your own doorstep, peddling overpriced magazine subscriptions with sketchy looking "official" documents, claiming to be earning points for a savings bond or vacation. It seems harmless, but as Amanda tells us, it's anything but.
Show Notes
Follow Amanda - Facebook | Instagram | Website
For Youths, a Grim Tour on Magazine Crews - https://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/21/us/21magcrew.html
Trapped into Selling Magazines Door-to-Door - https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/04/trapped-into-selling-magazines-door-to-door/388601/
Magazine Sales Enmesh Youths in Murky World - https://www.mcall.com/1984/06/17/magazine-sales-enmesh-youths-in-murky-world/
Ghost Fleet - https://amzn.to/3megx7C
Mag Crew Support Group - https://www.facebook.com/groups/770393066349097
Everything Owned by Nestle - https://wyomingllcattorney.com/Blog/Everything-Owned-by-Nestle
Fair Trade America - https://www.fairtradeamerica.org/
International Labor Rights Forum - https://laborrights.org/
In Our Backyard - https://inourbackyard.org/
Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
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Emily Lynn Paulson is back! And this time it's to talk about her book Hey, Hun Sales, Sisterhood, Supremacy, and the Other Lies Behind Multilevel Marketing that comes out May 30th! In our chat we cover a lot of bases, including the process of writing and publishing a book with an "AntiMLM" message to the oddity of Parasocial relationships and how MLM is dripping in white supremacy.
Show Notes
Episode 101 - Emily Lynn Paulson - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-101-emily-paulson/id1553784236?i=1000559960572
MLM Conference Video - https://mlmconf2023.org/conference-videos/
Preorder Hey, Hun! - https://amzn.to/3KiXdiR
Row House Publishing - https://www.rowhousepublishing.com/
"I exploited my own cancer diagnosis to grow my MLM business" - https://www.today.com/money/essay/cancer-pity-grow-mlm-business-rcna67053
Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
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Isaac Ramos was an overworked and underpaid teacher looking to supplement his income while caring for his chronically ill wife when Amway walked into their lives. As the "upline" in their marriage, Isaac dove head first into the American Way, duplicating what his Platinum kept saying was the way to millions in residual income. Through Isaac's perspective, we see the pressures of an Amway marriage with a different lens, and learn that nowhere is safe, not even the dog park.
Show Notes
Follow Eddie (Ep:42) on his journey through the Pacific Crest Trail! - https://pct.edwardarriola.net/
Married to an AmBot - http://marriedtoanambot.blogspot.com/
Peter Island - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Island
Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
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As a Florida Supreme Court Certified Family & County Mediator, Vanessa sees a lot. As another personal protection advocate on TikTok, she wanted to have a conversation. And in that conversation we covered a lot of topics; owning your own business, obvious lack in education, not-so-basic job knowledge, the military and the power of confidence.
Show Notes
Vanessa on TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@divorcingadults
Divorcing Adults - https://www.divorcingadults.com/
National Domestic Violence Hotline
1-800-799-7233
Child Help National Child Abuse Hotline
1-800-422-4453
Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
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Cori was never in a MLM, but she got a front row seat to the circus of Amway when she met her soon-to-be in-laws and saw their basement. Throughout almost their entire marriage, Cori watched them struggle when they didn't have to, sacrificing everything they had for a dream that was only out of reach while funneling their money into Amway. Cori shares her story of watching the aftermath of putting your MLM before your family.
Show Notes
Amway : The Comments - https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Amway/AUS/commen39.htm
Amway Ruined my Childhood - https://www.reddit.com/r/antiMLM/comments/8wuyue/amway_ruined_my_childhood/
Amway : Technically Legal - https://medium.com/agastya-zayant/amway-multilevel-marketing-technically-legal-but-will-ruin-your-life-8d792c20e9d7
Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
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Eden Robinson had a confusing childhood; a closeted father, an abusive mother and a buried identity that almost everyone else could see but her. Slowly, as she started to unpack her own baggage, she had to confront some hard truths before unlearning all the shame she had been raised in. With the help of Pink!, Jillian Holtzman, and Jennette McCurdy, Eden found herself, her voice and her identity, and then she wrote it all down.
Show Notes
Becoming Shameless by Eden Robinson (Simchah) - https://amzn.to/3ZEucTz
What My Bones Know by Stephanie Foo - https://amzn.to/3Yi05jB
I'm Glad My Mom Died by Jennette McCurdy - https://amzn.to/3yaKWGo
Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
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As a mom of special needs children, Savannah wanted to be the best advocate for them that she could be. She thought she was doing her research when she came upon a Special Needs advocate and educator who promised just that. Throughout her experience she started to notice some red flags; unnecessary conflict, tensions and a seemingly endless fight for what kinda looked like justice. But for who?
Show Notes
COPAA - https://www.copaa.org/
From Emotions to Advocacy -https://amzn.to/3SoKNs0
Wrightslaw - https://www.wrightslaw.com/
Beyond Behaviors - https://amzn.to/3kpqNsQ
The Council for Exceptional Children - https://exceptionalchildren.org/
Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
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Jessica Hopper was introduced to pole fitness in the mid 2000's when she stumbled upon S Factor Studio and quickly became an instructor. Throughout her 14 years with the studio, Jessica witnessed countless abuses of power at the hand of the company's founder, Sheila Kelley. With compartmentalization and focusing on her students, Jessica trudged on until the company's reaction to the murder of George Floyd and the BLM movement couldn't keep her silent any longer.
Show Notes:
Stripped Down: The Undoing of Hollywoodโs Favorite Pole-Dancing Studio - https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/hollywood-pole-dancing-studio-s-factor-allegations-1234961498/
A wildly popular pole dancing studio "irresponsibly preyed on womenโs pain," a former instructor says - https://www.mic.com/life/the-s-factor-studio-is-facing-allegations-of-exploitation-racial-insensitivity-81080002
Not-So-Empowering: This Hollywood Pole Dance Studio Reportedly Caused 'Direct Harm' to BIPOC Women - https://www.theroot.com/not-so-empowering-this-hollywood-pole-dance-studio-rep-1847025002
Navigating the Cult-Like World of Fitness Classes, Self-Help Guides, and Groupthink - https://www.shondaland.com/live/body/a36832001/navigating-the-cult-world-fitness-self-help-groupthink/
Netflix's pole dance therapy film "Strip Down, Rise Up" exploits trauma & is fixated on male gaze - https://www.salon.com/2021/02/15/strip-down-rise-up-netflix-pole-dance-trauma-feminism/
Yes A Stripper Podcast - https://yesastripperpodcast.com/
Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
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*TW: This episode talks about infertility, IVF, and Covid-19. Please use caution when listening.*
When Brandi joined Arbonne she had no idea what she was signing up for, she just wanted a way to pay for another round of IVF. Throughout her time in the MLM she was shamed, guilted, preyed upon and then had to answer to the FTC. Brandi shares what it was like to be "successful" in a health and wellness MLM at the height of the Covid-19 pandemic, what she was told to say, how she was told to pray, and what incriminating evidence she was told to erase.
Show Notes:
17 Biggest MLM Companies in the World - https://www.yahoo.com/now/17-biggest-mlm-companies-world-144157353.html
r/AntiMLM : IVF & MLM - https://www.reddit.com/r/antiMLM/comments/bzfkng/sure_target_vulnerable_women_battling_with/
FTC Letters to Arbonne - https://www.ftc.gov/system/files/warning-letters/covid-19-letter_to_arbonne_international_llc.pdf
Cults, Cancer & Covid-19 - https://shityoushouldcareabout.com/article/arbonne
Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
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Tracy Coenen is the powerhouse behind Pink Truth and the brilliant forensic accountant also known as The Fraud Coach. And she's here to talk to us about financial literacy after leaving high demand situations... like bad marriages, or even cults. Tracy has been though the MLM rollercoaster so she offers a unique perspective to those of us who may be going through even more than leaving an MLM during "The Great Awakening" of the past 3 years. If you're in the "divorce headspace" (trust me, I get it!) this is the episode for you!
Show Notes
About Tracy - https://www.sequenceinc.com/about/
PinkTruth - https://www.pinktruth.com/
Divorce Money Guide - https://www.fraudcoach.com/divorcemoneyguide SAVE $100 with code LIFEAFTERMLM
Post Divorce Money Guide - https://www.fraudcoach.com/post-divorce
HelloDivorce - https://hellodivorce.com/
Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
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When twin sisters Melissa and Marissa both joined Pampered Chef, it was for very different reasons with very different results. As one quickly climbed the ranks, the other was stacked and used to help her sister rank up within the company, helping her earn trips, recognition and at times up to 5 times more than her sister was. It wasn't until a personal revelation, and an interventions of sorts that the sisters were able to see the scam for what it really was, and find the strength to leave.
Show Notes:
How much can you earn with Pampered Chef? - https://www.talentedladiesclub.com/articles/shame-on-loccitane-as-it-launches-mlm-myloccitane/#:~:text=How%20much%20can%20you%20earn%20at%20MLM%20Pampered%20Chef%3F
Pampered Chef AntiMLM Reddit - https://www.reddit.com/r/antiMLM/comments/7uc4h9/thoughts_on_the_pampered_chef/
Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
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Christine reached out to me because she found the podcast and wanted to talk about a subject near to her heart that we hadn't covered yet; Military families and spouses and how MLMs take advantage of them from multiple angles. It's a discussion I've wanted to have for awhile, and while Christine wasn't ever in an MLM, she's supported more than anyone could ever want to admit. And she brought a list with her! We chat about the military, US capitalism and unpaid and underpaid labor to open up some new topics for 2023.
Show Notes
Hiring Our Heroes - https://www.hiringourheroes.org/
Capitalism is a Pyramid Scheme - https://ryangosha.medium.com/capitalism-is-a-pyramid-scheme-769cc882f6
Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
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You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
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*This episode contains topics that may be triggering to some listeners, including descriptions of medical procedures, fatphobia, infertility and child loss. Please use discretion when listening.*
Hayden was starting her fertility journey when she discovered a clinic just down the street. It was a well known and respected clinic so she didn't see the red flag until she was poking around on their website. But her experience lead her to messaging me, and our conversation opens up even more topics to tackle in 2023; the ethics of medical professionals who support MLMs and the targeting of the vulnerabilities of infertility.
Show Notes
MLMs & Infertility - https://www.reddit.com/r/antiMLM/comments/qbsmsx/mlm_claims_to_help_infertility_not_sure_how_true/
South Park Timeshare - https://southpark.cc.com/video-clips/ervv23/south-park-i-ve-got-a-little-place-in-aspen
Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
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Have you heard of ChatGPT? It's an AI model that chats conversationally. The format makes it possible for the AI to learn, admit mistakes, be challenged, and answer follow up questions. And after being asked so many times over the holidays if I had heard of it or used it, I signed up and gave it a whirl. My conversations with ChatGPT started off with some basic MLM stuff, and quickly descended into me arguing with a robot, so I wanted to share what I learned with you.
Show Notes
ChatGPT - https://openai.com/blog/chatgpt/
AI Isnโt Ready to Make Unsupervised Decisions - https://hbr.org/2022/09/ai-isnt-ready-to-make-unsupervised-decisions
Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
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In 2021 I got an ADHD diagnosis and answered a lot of my own personal burning questions about myself. Why am I so impulsive? Why do I feel like such an imposter? Am I lazy? Ever since that moment, and even before, I have been focused on the unspoken connection between MLMs and Neurodivergent people. How are we targeted? Why do we jump from one to the next? How much lipstick does one really need? So I asked someone who has a lot more knowledge about the subject, Layla Touchet, LPC, NCC, PSC to talk to us about why those of us with ND would be more drawn to MLMs, and how the MLMs use our symptoms to keep us stuck.
Show Notes
Layla's IG - https://www.instagram.com/theneurodivergentcounselor/
ADHD Online - https://adhdonline.com/
Understood - https://www.understood.org/
ADDitude - https://www.additudemag.com/
Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
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Happy 2023 Hunbots and Hunbros!
We've got lots of new focuses and content for 2023, and I cannot wait to share it all with you! We're starting off the year with an episode filled with hilarious self-awareness as April recounts her MLM journey throughout her entire life. MLM parties as a child? Check! Dopamine addiction fueled by "Kitnapping" MLM after MLM? Check! Crunchy cult pipeline? Check! From Metabolife to Herbalife, April has probably tried it so you don't have to.
Show Notes:
Metabolife - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metabolife
Kitnapping - https://www.reddit.com/r/antiMLM/comments/8wts2h/i_was_almost_a_victim_of_kitnapping/
Paparazzi & Covid - https://www.insideedition.com/paparazzi-accessories-silent-after-at-least-5-die-from-covid-19-following-mlms-convention-loved
Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
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Happy Holidays Hunbots and Hunbros! Welcome to 8 Days of Holiday Magic, a month of fun content to get us through the end of the year! Each episode was HAND PICKED from YOUR wish list of guest requests! Join us every Sunday and Wednesday for a NEW episode, leading up to 2023!
As we finish up 2022, I wanted to take Day 8 of Holiday Magic to tell you the story of Bernie Madoff, who ran the largest Ponzi scheme in history. Not a lot of people know the whole story, some barely recognize the name, but Bernie Madoff wrecked a type of havoc rarely ever seen, that left in it's wake death, destruction and devastation no one ever expected. One of the ULTIMATE ScamFathers, this story is a MUST KNOW for any scheme enthusiast.
CW: Death and Suicide
Show Notes:
Chasing Madoff - https://amzn.to/3OqgD4s
The World's Largest Hedge Fund is a Fraud - https://www.math.nyu.edu/~avellane/madoffmarkopoulos.pdf
Bernie Madoff Dead - https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/14/business/bernie-madoff-dead.html
Bernie Madoff - https://www.investopedia.com/terms/b/bernard-madoff.asp
Bernie's Wiki - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Madoff
Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
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Happy Holidays Hunbots and Hunbros! Welcome to 8 Days of Holiday Magic, a month of fun content to get us through the end of the year! Each episode was HAND PICKED from YOUR wish list of guest requests! Join us every Sunday and Wednesday for a NEW episode, leading up to 2023!
*Content Warning : We do talk a bit about the Danny Masterson SA case, as well as other abuses of Scientology. Please use discretion when listening.*
Merry Christmas and Happy Hannukah Hunbots and Hunbros! Welcome to Day 7 of Holiday Magic! I am so excited for this chat, because not only is it my first ever Scientology episode, it's with none other than my friend, Mike Rinder! Go big or go home, amirite? In our chat we talk about the early days of Mike's CoS experience, his new book A Billion Years, and what it was like to work under both LRH and the COB. There's so much Scientology speak, you're just going to have to listen.
There is an additional AMA with Mike on the Patreon and we get a bit deeper into his thoughts on Scientology, who's more culty and what happened to his and Leah's podcast, Scientology: Fair Game!
Show Notes
Mike on IG - https://www.instagram.com/rindermike/
A Billion Years by Mike Rinder - https://amzn.to/3HXBDzD
Mike's Blog - https://www.mikerindersblog.org/
Mike's Twitter - https://twitter.com/MikeRinder
Mike and Leah's Podcast - https://fairgamepodcast.com/
Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
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Happy Holidays Hunbots and Hunbros! Welcome to 8 Days of Holiday Magic, a month of fun content to get us through the end of the year! Each episode was HAND PICKED from YOUR wish list of guest requests! Join us every Sunday and Wednesday for a NEW episode, leading up to 2023!
One of the biggest groups targeted by MLMs are moms. And the best place to find moms? Facebook Mom Groups. Since I don't have that kind of energy, I enlisted my friend Jess of The Big Weird Mom! And we don't stop at the MLM gossip in the mom groups, because what fun would that be? From hilarious to terrifying, Jess and I chat about the stuff we've both seen from the so-called "mompreneurs" and the new age "momagers" on social media.
Show Notes
The Big Weird Mom - https://www.thebigweirdmom.com/
Jess's TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@bigweirdmom
Jess's IG - https://www.instagram.com/thebigweirdmom/
#NuggetTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@thebigweirdmom/video/6907331485523594502
Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
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Happy Holidays Hunbots and Hunbros! Welcome to 8 Days of Holiday Magic, a month of fun content to get us through the end of the year! Each episode was HAND PICKED from YOUR wish list of guest requests! Join us every Sunday and Wednesday for a NEW episode, leading up to 2023!
Welcome to Day 5! I am so excited to bring you this chat with my friend Elora Dodd, who you may recognize from her many online personas at the "Online One Room Schoolhouse". She's a powerhouse of comedy, historical oddities and autism education. We talked for over 4 hours and I cut it down to this (there is even more on Patreon!). Not only is Elora a wealth of compassionate information, she's hilarious, so when she wanted to make an episode with me, I jumped at the chance to chat! We cover some basics, and then dive into how MLM's prey on the parents of autistics and the dangers that come with it.
Show Notes
Our Google Doc to follow along! - https://docs.google.com/document/d/10h18V7euR-nZeYA1dcGkDEURXrHaTayddZMWrY9LpQM/edit?usp=sharing
Operation Santa - https://about.usps.com/holidaynews/operation-santa.htm
Elora's LinkTree - https://linktr.ee/Online1RoomSchoolhouse
I am Autism (CW: fearmongering) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UgLnWJFGHQ
Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
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Happy Holidays Hunbots and Hunbros! Welcome to 8 Days of Holiday Magic, a month of fun content to get us through the end of the year! Each episode was HAND PICKED from YOUR wish list of guest requests! Join us every Sunday and Wednesday for a NEW episode, leading up to 2023!
Day 4 brings us quite a haul! Not only do we chat about some shady stuff a lot of us have been participating in recently, but also news about an MLM closing it's doors and the aftermath of it's victims and how to support them. But then we've got some juicy MLM History, with a scam I hadn't even heard of, so The Shoe Fairy came by to tell us all about it and what she had to do to save her own ass.
Show Notes
Facebook post RE: Matilda Jane - https://www.facebook.com/anniebeth17/posts/pfbid02d65NEcCWZBhHNF8RzmpjqoT7Sy5HMNU4HjYAEDSNAuH1CRKEZ7jq8K5AKWjL83i4l
What You Should Know Before Using the Lensa AI App - https://www.wired.com/story/lensa-ai-magic-avatars-security-tips/amp
Chandra Prescod-Weinstein has advice to help you protect yourself on Lensa - https://twitter.com/IBJIYONGI/status/1599536831045197824
To The Nines Scam - https://www.unhappyfranchisee.com/to-the-nines-kenny-davis-iamaa-direct-scam/
Kenny Davis Indictment - https://dentonrc.com/kenny-j-davis-2016-to-the-nines-indictment-pdf/pdf_75b8cb6a-150a-56a2-8082-b03443603a7b.html
Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
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Happy Holidays Hunbots and Hunbros! Welcome to 8 Days of Holiday Magic, a month of fun content to get us through the end of the year! Each episode was HAND PICKED from YOUR wish list of guest requests! Join us every Sunday and Wednesday for a NEW episode, leading up to 2023!
Day 3 of our 8 Days of Holiday Magic brings a chat with Jana Rogers, the owner of Silver Lining Lessons, creators of the Loaded Tea WITHOUT the MLM. You may recognize Jana from her how-to videos, where she teaches people how to make those expensive drinks, without the expensive price tag, with things you can buy at the store down the road. No MLM, or cult joining required. Along the way she's learned quite a bit about Herbalife and their reps, The Holiday Job Scam!
Show Notes
Career OneStop - https://www.careeronestop.org/jobsearch/findjobs/state-job-banks.aspx
Silver Lining Lessons - https://www.silverlininglessons.com/
Jana on IG - https://www.instagram.com/silverlininglessons/
Jana on TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@silverlininglessons
The Hidden Truth of Loaded Teas - https://www.tastingtable.com/822612/the-hidden-truth-of-loaded-teas/
Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
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Happy Holidays Hunbots and Hunbros! Welcome to 8 Days of Holiday Magic, a month of fun content to get us through the end of the year! Each episode was HAND PICKED from YOUR wish list of guest requests! Join us every Sunday and Wednesday for a NEW episode, leading up to 2023!
Day 2 of Holiday Magic! And after chatting with Sarah, I was inspired to dive deeper into Keith and his evil origin story. No surprise that it starts with Amway, drives straight through a pyramid scheme and ends at sex cult leader. Plus, I share with you another holiday scam, this time The Gift Giving Pyramid Scheme! Buckle up!
Shows Notes
Keith's Wiki - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_Raniere
Toni Natalie tells about her life with Keith Raniere - https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/politics/albany/2018/03/08/rochester-woman-battles-nxivm-keith-raniere/360847002/
Keith's Love Letter to Toni Natalie - https://frankreport.com/2015/12/31/ranieres-love-letter-to-woman-he-tried-to-destroy/
Keith Raniere and his Pyramid Schemes - https://filmdaily.co/obsessions/keith-raniere-pyramid-schemes/
Consumers' Buyline - https://frankreport.com/2022/07/27/raniere-consumers-buyline-was-the-most-misunderstood-there-was-no-fraud/
Keith Raniere used MLM to Attract Victims - https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/22/nxivm-keith-raniere-used-multilevel-marketing-to-attract-victims.html
Keith Raniere Bio - https://www.biography.com/crime-figure/keith-raniere
Keith & Amway - https://mlmtheamericandreammadenightmare.blogspot.com/2018/03/no-where-did-ex-amway-adherent-keith.html
Keith Raniere The Leader of the Nxivm Sex Cult - https://www.forbes.com/sites/willyakowicz/2019/05/15/keith-raniere-the-leader-of-the-nxivm-sex-cult/?sh=77f9a53835a9
Ample Evidence to Justify Investigation - https://www.timesunion.com/local/article/Ample-evidence-to-justify-investigation-3337402.php#taboola-1
Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
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Welcome to 8 Days of Holiday Magic! Day 1 is the always lovely, spunky and badass Sarah Edmondson. You may know her from her work on HBO's The Vow, her book Scarred, or her podcast she produces with her husband Nippy, A Little Bit Culty. If you haven't heard Sarah or her story, buckle up! From her early beginnings in MLM to her takedown of the dangerous cult NXIVM, she's a force to be reckoned with.
Sarah on IG - https://www.instagram.com/sarahedmondson/
A Little Bit Culty IG - https://www.instagram.com/alittlebitculty/
A Little Bit Culty Podcast - https://alittlebitculty.com/
HBO's The Vow - https://amzn.to/3ijHZOX
Double Bind - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_bind
Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
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All month we asked for your #igotout stories and boy did you deliver! From comment threads on Instagram and TikTok to the emails, and messages you sent us, I invited Danielle of From Huns to Humans to come help me tell them all! They teamed up with us this year as well to bring you even more cult focused content, and I wanted to invite them on the show to share their experiences and conversations too. Thank you to everyone who contributed to this episode, your stories will help so many.
Show Notes
From Huns to Humans I Got Out Part 2 - Coming Soon!!
From Huns to Humans Podcast - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/from-huns-to-humans/id1585142247
IGotOut - https://www.igotout.org/
Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
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Have an MLM CULT STORY to share? Email me! |Send a voice message! | Submit ANON These stories will be used in anthology episodes for Commercial Cult Awareness Month with IGotOut.org!
Gerette Buglion spent over 18 years in a cult that manipulated her dreams and kept her stuck in an endless chain of enlightenment masquerading as a cult. Since leaving her everyday cult, she's written a book about her experiences, helped found a movement, changed countless lives and encourages other cult survivors to embrace their story, by using an incredibly powerful tool, the written word.
Show Notes:
Gerette's website - https://www.gerettebuglion.com/
IGotOut - https://www.igotout.org/
An Everyday Cult by Gerette Buglion - https://amzn.to/3AKGcJ0
Dr. Dan Siegel - https://drdansiegel.com/
Lisa from IGotOut on From Huns to Humans - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-93-i-got-out-lisa/id1585142247?i=1000586691304
Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
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Have an MLM CULT STORY to share? Email me! |Send a voice message! | Submit ANON These stories will be used in anthology episodes for Commercial Cult Awareness Month with IGotOut.org!
In 1997 the largest mass suicide on US soil happened as the Hale-Bopp Comet passed over earth. The tragedy was a result of the belief that evil space aliens were holding humans back from reaching their true potential, deeply held by the religious organization Heaven's Gate, founded in 1974 by leaders Ti and Do. One of the earliest members, Sharon Welsh just happened to be the aunt of my friend and fellow podcaster, Leslie Fear. So I asked Leslie if she would come help me tell the story of Heaven's Gate, using her never been told insider perspective.
Show Notes:
Follow Leslie on IG - https://www.instagram.com/lesliefear/
Hale-Bopp, Heaven's Gate and the Largest Mass Suicide on US Soil - https://www.saturdayeveningpost.com/2022/03/hale-bopp-heavens-gate-and-the-largest-mass-suicide-on-u-s-soil/
Hale-Bopp Comet - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comet_Hale%E2%80%93Bopp
Heaven's Gate - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaven%27s_Gate_(religious_group)
Do's Final Exit - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdGXDQ_8bSA
Student Exit Statements - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHz9it70TdI
Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
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Spencer Schneider spent 23 years of his life in an elite Manhattan secret society, hidden in plain sight, and operating under everyone's noses called "School". The founder, an eccentric washed up actress named Sharon Gans was obsessed with the private lives of her followers, abusing them for her own sick satisfaction. Though not an MLM, the parallels of the two organizations feel dangerously familiar, and Spencer is here to help us expose them.
Show Notes:
Spencer's website - https://www.spencer-schneider.com/
Follow Spencer on IG - https://www.instagram.com/officialspencerschneider/
Manhattan Cult Story: My Unbelievable True Story of Sex, Crimes, Chaos, and Survival - https://amzn.to/3U2Gr9v
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
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Everyone knows about Amway, but what about the Tools Cult? It's been mentioned in many Amway episodes, but it's entire weight was largely unknown. So when fan of the show, and American Historian Sean Munger reached out with an episode idea, I was game. And after Paul talked so much about the tools in Britt World Wide, this episode seemed the perfect follow up! If you were ever curious about the cult of the motivational tapes, and the showdown with Amway that ensued, you gotta listen to this episode.
Show Notes
Sean's YouTube Channel - https://www.youtube.com/c/SeanMunger
Sean's Substack - https://seanmungerhistory.substack.com/
The Tools Cult: History of the Amway Motivational Tape Scam - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9nA3pqSaf8
Doug Wead - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doug_Wead
Dexter Yager on 60 Minutes - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xwE0VG-H44&list=RDLV9xwE0VG-H44&start_radio=1&t=1237s
60 Minutes Transcript - http://thefactsabouttheamwayopportunity.blogspot.com/2010/10/amway-on-60-minutes-soap-and-hope.html
The Postma Memo - https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Amway/postma-memo-1983.pdf
Amway : The Untold Story - The Tools Scam - https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Amway/AUS/tools.htm
AmQuix.info Archive - https://web.archive.org/web/20161120060052/http://www.amquix.info/
Rich DeVos "Directly Speaking" - https://web.archive.org/web/20161118055618/http://www.amquix.info/amway_directly_speaking.html
Amway Cult Resources - https://freedomofmind.com/group-information-resource/amway/
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
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Michelle and Paul spent 10 years in Britt World Wide, a cult inside Amway that controlled every aspect of their life, including the level of communication they had with each other. Though their stories are very different from each other, they are the same, woven together as they recount the early days as teenagers with thriving Amway businesses and a hustle they haven't lost in their life after MLM.
Show Notes
Michelle's IG - https://www.instagram.com/michellegarabito/
Paul's IG - https://www.instagram.com/cr3ateabundance/
Paul's Podcast - https://cr3ateyourself.podbean.com/
Why Michelle Decided to Leave BWW - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saZFRLcSbkE&t=1s
Life After Amway - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENYtsVKNSXI
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
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I had no idea how bad Rank Makers was until I spoke to Julie Anderson. That chat lead me down a path uncovering shocking behavior and even scarier experiences from even more people, including Jennifer Rajala. It wasn't until I put out a call to action asking for testimonials that Ray's victims poured forth. I had so many submissions, I decided to organize them by the BITE Model, juxtaposing them with Ray's own thoughts and opinions.
Show Notes
Play to Win Episode One - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JV2tHyjHjg&list=PLoGN-3IQ01C456usBAdcDhQuJmIc_ux7U
Rank Makers University - https://www.rankmakers.com/rmu
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
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Jennifer Rajala never expected she would find herself sitting across the screen from me, talking about her experiences in the top of not 1, but 2 simultaneous commercial cults. After her former coaching client came on the show to share her story, Jennifer wanted to add in some more details about being in the "Inner Circle" of one of the MLM Coaching groups.
Show Notes
Follow Jennifer on IG! - https://www.instagram.com/jennifer.rajala
Follow Jennifer on TikTok! - https://www.tiktok.com/@jennifer.rajala
Julie's Episode - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-123-julie-anderson/id1553784236?i=1000581265973
Inner Circle Coaching - https://higdongroup.com/take-the-survey/
Rank Makers University - https://www.rankmakers.com/rmu
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
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Welcome to November! We've partnered with IGotOut.org to bring you a month full of cult stories and education!
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Here is part 2 of the Minisode from last week! After reading the conversation between Thomas and Ronald, I needed to know more... and whoa. It's so much more difficult and convoluted than I could have ever imagined. CIA cover up plots, a ponzi scheme and an attempted murder? Grab a snack and buckle up, cuz we're about to confirm some suspicions.
Show Notes:
Thomas Willhite Plane Crash & BBRDW - https://isgp-studies.com/DL_1983-thomas-willhite-plane-crash-bbrdw
How to get Away with Spying for the Enemy - https://www.topic.com/how-to-get-away-with-spying-for-the-enemy
CIA Cover Blown by Honolulu TV Reporter - https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/20140902212249-29817943-cia-cover-blown-by-honolulu-tv-reporter
Ron Rewald - https://americanfootballdatabase.fandom.com/wiki/Ron_Rewald
CIA Officers Testify at Hawaii Fraud Trial - https://www.nytimes.com/1985/09/03/us/cia-officers-testify-at-hawaii-fraud-trial.html
Those Ugly Americans by Rodney Stich - https://books.google.com/books?id=RKecVf4JyDEC
Plot Twists in History that Still Surprise People - https://historycollection.com/plot-twists-from-history-that-still-surprise-people/
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
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Happy Halloween! All month long we shared MLM Horror stories, from creepy cults to literal murder! Next month, we tackle CULTS!!! Stayed tuned!
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When I got to be on Let The Women, it was a dream come true! Not only did I get to be a part of an amazing series, I got to hang out with Gillian Pensavalle from True Crime Obsessed and become friends! So when October hit, I knew exactly who I wanted to tell this story with, and she was more than happy to join us! On Gillian's show, she reacts to True Crime docs, so I told her quite possibly the most tragic and detailed MLM related murder I have ever come across. For those who are fans of Gillian, there is even more Patreon Exclusive content for the peeps!
Show Notes:
True Crime Obsessed - https://www.truecrimeobsessed.com/
Let The Women Do The Work with Rabia - https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/let-the-women-rabia-chaudry-on-the-case-against-adnan-syed/id1232009882?i=1000560735576
Serial - https://serialpodcast.org/
Undisclosed - https://undisclosed-podcast.com/
Serial Dynasty - https://audioboom.com/channel/the-serial-dynasty
The Secret Life of Paige Birgfeld - https://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-secret-life-of-paige-birgfeld/
Chef Success - https://www.chefsuccess.com/search/265032/?q=paige+dixon&o=relevance
Missing Small Town Soccer Mom Found - https://truecrimedaily.com/2017/02/08/missing-small-town-soccer-mom-found-murdered-suspect-convicted-years-later/
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
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Happy October! All month long we will be sharing MLM Horror stories, from creepy cults to literal murder. Join us every Sunday with bonus episodes on Wednesday!
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It was just a quick google to fact check something during a chat, but the rabbit hole it led me down made my head spin. I thought I was investigating the origin story of a course scam and I somehow STILL ended up in pyramid schemes, murder plots, Ponzi schemes and surprisingly, a first - CIA espionage. This is the first half of two unlikely stories with a common thread. Stay tuned for next Wednesday for the second half!
Show Notes:
William Penn Patrick - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Penn_Patrick
Holiday Magic - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holiday_Magic
Mustang Forum - https://www.mustangsmustangs.com/p-51/who/case/152
The Incredible Implosion of Holiday Magic - https://www.sfgate.com/sfhistory/article/The-incredible-implosion-of-Holiday-Magic-16785971.php
William Penn Patrick Killed - https://www.nytimes.com/1973/06/10/archives/william-patrick-is-killed-in-california-air-crash.html
Thomas Willhite Plane Crash - https://isgp-studies.com/DL_1983-thomas-willhite-plane-crash-bbrdw
Those Ugly Americans - https://books.google.com/books?id=RKecVf4JyDEC&pg
William Penn Patrick & Holiday Magic - https://thesnappingpoint.com/william-penn-patrick-holiday-magic/
Thomas Willhite's Motorcycle Training Manual - https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/motorcycle-training-manual
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
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Happy October! All month long we will be sharing MLM Horror stories, from creepy cults to literal murder. Join us every Sunday with bonus episodes on Wednesday!
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We've all heard a story about an MLM funneling someone into a course scam, but what happens when the course scam funnels you into an MLM? For Andrea, all she wanted to do was help people, so why not supplement her college degree with some self guided, self-help courses and become a certified life coach? But from day one, everything seemed strange, and instead of trusting her gut, she trusted handsome young men in fancy suits. It wasn't until she ended up in the ER that she "woke up" and saw the scam for what it really was.
*Next Wednesday's episode starts a strange 2-part Rabbit Hole into Thomas Willhite. Stay Tuned!*
Show Notes:
iPEC Coaching - https://www.ipeccoaching.com/
PSI Seminars - https://psiseminars.com/
World Financial Group - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Financial_Group
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
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Happy October! All month long we will be sharing MLM Horror stories, from creepy cults to literal murder. Join us every Sunday with bonus episodes on Wednesday!
*CW: This episode talks about a murder and attempted suicide. It describes crime scenes, the state of the victims involved and includes transcripts of court documents and suicide notes. Please use discretion when listening.*
To the outside world Ellery and Lisa Bennett seemed like the picture perfect couple of happiness and success. A follower of The Law of Attraction, Ellery eventually found himself deeply entranced by the " Fake it til you make it" lifestyle, going all in on several MLMs and bad business deals while maintaining the guise of a "6-Figure Income", until it all became too much.
Show Notes:
Three Murders from the World of MLM - https://einsteinshrugged-92813.medium.com/mlm-true-crime-three-murders-from-the-world-of-mlms-7265eb94fbe6
Husband Sentenced in Murder Conviction - https://www.cbsnews.com/detroit/news/husband-sentenced-bennett-ellery-lisa-death-murder-conviction-oakland-county-west-bloomfield-trial-prison/
MLM Debt Leads to Murder and Failed Suicide Attempt - https://behindmlm.com/companies/polaris-media-group/mlm-debt-leads-to-murder-and-failed-suicide-attempt/
Global Prosperity Group - https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Prosperity_Group
Liberty League International - https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberty_League_International
LGN : Is it a Scam? - https://behindmlm.com/companies/lgn-prosperity-recruitment-scam-or-legit-travel-club/
Ellery's LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ellerybennett
Ellery's YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/user/golfin036/videos
Ellery's Case - https://law.justia.com/cases/michigan/court-of-appeals-unpublished/2012/303025.html
Ellery's MDOC page - https://mdocweb.state.mi.us/OTIS2/otis2profile.aspx?mdocNumber=796297
Ellery's Appeals in the Surpreme Court - https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/18/18-8772/95928/20190412094525264_00000052.pdf
West Bloomfield Woman Filed for Divorce 1 Week before Murder - https://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/2010/08/west_bloomfield_woman_filed_fo.html
Internet Marketer Murders Wife - https://mikeyounglaw.com/internet-marketer-murders-wife/
West Bloomfield Man Gets Life in Prison - https://www.dailytribune.com/2011/03/09/west-bloomfield-man-gets-life-in-prison-for-wifes-murder/
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
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Happy October! All month long we will be sharing MLM Horror stories, from creepy cults to literal murder. Join us every Sunday with bonus episodes on Wednesday!
When I got an email from Mike Rothschild, asking me if I would be open to making a QAnon + MLM episode, I jumped at the chance. After interviewing and chatting with several people who slid down that pipeline, I knew we had to dedicate an episode to the terrifying cult movement creeping out of the darkest corners of the web and into your social feeds with little difficulty. And surprisingly, not all conspiracy theorists come with tinfoil hats, some are hawking wellness supplements and fad diets at the PTA meeting.
Show Notes:
Have an MLM CULT STORY to share? Email me! |Send a voice message! | These stories will be used in anthology episodes in November for Commercial Cult Awareness Month with IGotOut.org!
The Storm Is Upon Us: How QAnon Became a Movement, Cult, and Conspiracy Theory of Everything by Mike Rothschild - https://amzn.to/3MjAeDP
Mike Rothschild on the Ongoing Influence of QAnon and Its Self-Made Mythologies - https://lithub.com/mike-rothschild-on-the-ongoing-influence-of-qanon-and-its-self-made-mythologies/
Parasocial Relationships - https://www.findapsychologist.org/parasocial-relationships-the-nature-of-celebrity-fascinations/
QAnon Anonymous - https://www.qanonanonymous.com/
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
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Happy October! All month long we will be sharing MLM Horror stories, from creepy cults to literal murder. Join us every Sunday with bonus episodes on Wednesday!
*CW: This episode talks about a murder, describes crime scenes and the state of the victims involved. There are also mentions of mental health, outrageous health claims, mental illness and suicide. Please use discretion when listening.*
Back in 1999, a supplement was created that claimed to be the cure for mental illness called EMPower Plus. It had rave reviews by devotees, and even became the star in an MLM product lineup. But when the Ramsay family decided to wean their son off his medication, in favor of a megadose of this miracle "cure all" vitamin, they never expected the tragic outcome.
Have a story to share? Email me! therealrobertablevins@gmail.com
Show Notes:
EMPower Plus Q96 vs Thrivous Clarity - https://thrivous.com/blogs/views/99474945-q-sciences-empowerplus-q96-vs-thrivous-clarity
Q Max Premium - https://qsciences.com/products/q-max-premium
"Crazy Pills" A Utah multilevel-marketing company has a multivitamin to "fix" your mental illness - https://www.cityweekly.net/utah/crazy-pills/Content?oid=2305592
Mentally ill killer tried vitamin therapy, court told - https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/mentally-ill-killer-tried-vitamin-therapy-court-told-1.1141861
Mentally ill man not criminally responsible for murdering father - https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/mentally-ill-man-not-criminally-responsible-for-murdering-father-1.1147589
The Epicenter For Get-Rich-Quick Schemes - https://economichardship.org/2015/06/how-utah-became-a-bizarre-blissful-epicenter-for-get-rich-quick-schemes/
The Lawyers, Court and family agree Jordan Ramsay is Not Criminally Responsible, Review Board will decide his fate - http://www.timslaw.ca/tag/donald-ramsay/
Truth in Advertising - Q Sciences - https://truthinadvertising.org/articles/q-sciences/
DSSRC refers Q Sciences to FTC/AG - https://bbbprograms.org/media-center/newsroom/q-sciences-health-and-earnings-claims
North Vancouver man believed his father was 'supernatural entity' - https://www.nsnews.com/local-news/north-vancouver-man-believed-his-father-was-supernatural-entity-2916584
Science Says: Q Sciences Supplements Do More Harm Than Good - https://www.brittanymorgon.com/blog/q-sciences-supplements-do-more-harm-than-good
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
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Happy October! All month long we will be sharing MLM Horror stories, from creepy cults to literal murder. Join us every Sunday with bonus episodes on Wednesday!
*CW - This episode features discussions about mental illness and toxic diet culture. We talk about mental health, disordered eating, binge eating disorder, and fatphobia. Please use discretion when listening.*
Ella Kruczynska just wanted to document her health and weight loss journey on Instagram and maybe help a few people along the way. At first she was happy to find a community where she felt valued and welcomed, but when she was inundated with the same messages from different women proclaiming how amazing she was, how great she looked and how their miracle products could help her even more, she got suspicious. Ella didn't know what an MLM was, or why she needed these expensive shakes, but it wasn't until she couldn't take the harassment any longer that she looked deeper and started connecting the dots.
Show Notes:
Follow Ella on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/ellakruczynska/
The Trouble with Calories - https://open.spotify.com/episode/77OLCDFtxmJFF7WjW3XTw0?si=61p4QqdBSI6QCBGLd3kJUA&nd=1
The Calorie Myth - https://elemental.medium.com/the-calorie-myth-f9e5248daa0c
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
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Happy October! All month long we will be sharing MLM Horror stories, from creepy cults to literal murder. Join us every Sunday with bonus episodes on Wednesday!
Have you ever heard the name Brownie Wise? If it seems vaguely familiar that makes sense. She was a pioneer in direct sales at a time when "upper management was no place for a woman", and defied all odds in a male dominated industry. She was revered for her charm, confidence and savvy business skills, until she got too much attention and was wiped from Tupperware history.
Special thanks to Nic for helping me fact check and tell this story! Have a story to share? Email me! therealrobertablevins@gmail.com
Show Notes:
Brownie Wise Wikipedia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brownie_Wise
Uncovering the Rise and Fall of Brownie Wise - https://nypost.com/2016/07/24/uncovering-the-rise-and-fall-of-the-queen-of-tupperware/
The Story of Brownie Wise - https://houseofwise.co/blogs/news/the-story-of-brownie-wise
The Brownie Wise Papers - https://sova.si.edu/record/NMAH.AC.0509
Brownie Wise The Brain Behind Tupperware - https://www.newenglandhistoricalsociety.com/brownie-wise-brain-behind-tupperware/
Tupperware Jubilee Fashion Show 1954 - https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/tupperware-jubilee-fashion/#:~:text=In%201954%2C%20Brownie%20Wise%20inaugurated,high%20spectacle%20and%20outrageous%20competitions.
Tupperware Jubilee 1957 Commemorative Plate - https://americanhistory.si.edu/collections/search/object/nmah_1161979
15 Tupperware Facts - https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/85379/15-tupperware-facts-back-fridge
Brownie Wise PBS - https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/tupperware-wise/
How Tupperware Works - https://people.howstuffworks.com/tupperware.htm
Home Interiors & Gifts - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_Interiors_and_Gifts
Tupperware History in my own Backyard - https://blog.tupperware.com/community/tupperware-history-in-my-own-backyard/
The Story of Brownie Wise - https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smithsonian-institution/story-brownie-wise-ingenious-marketer-behind-tupperware-party-180968658/
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
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Happy October! All month long we will be sharing MLM Horror stories, from creepy cults to literal murder. Join us every Sunday with bonus episodes on Wednesday!
*Trigger Warning : This episode deals with mental health, covert abuse and thoughts of suicide. Please use discretion when listening.*
As a GenX content creator, Julie Anderson tells it like it is. Yet somehow she spent the better part of 5 years neck deep in 2 different commercial cults, the shampoo we love to hate and a business coaching scam that turned her into a person she didn't even recognize. Julie missed almost all of the red flags, until some honest conversations lead to her watching the golden shine of her flashy business mentor flake away to reveal his true deceptive intentions.
Show Notes
Julie on TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@julieanderson426?lang=en
Julie on IG - https://www.instagram.com/_julieanderson426/
*TW Please use discretion when watching* Play to Win S1E1 - https://www.facebook.com/rayhigdonpage/videos/883545428687674/
Freedom of Mind - https://amzn.to/3SoEh3X
Combating Mind Control -https://amzn.to/3fwSywD
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
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*Content Warning - this episode mentions about trauma, mental health, miscarriage, and disordered eating. Please use discretion when listening.*
Jeannette was a Diamond Coach during her 5 year stint in Beachbody, running the MLM rat race with undiagnosed ADHD, chasing the dopamine fueled high of being a top BossBabe. I also struggled with undiagnosed ADHD while in MLM, chasing the same fix and so I wondered, Is there a connection between MLM and Neurodivergency? Jeannette and I talk about the similarities between our journeys with ADHD, how MLMs and social media played a part, and what healthy boundaries and personal privacy in a digital space looks like.
Show Notes
Follow Jeannette on IG - https://www.instagram.com/with_love_jeannette/
Follow Jeannette on TikTok!- https://www.tiktok.com/@anti_mlm_jeannette
Childhood Trauma and ADHD: A Complete Overview & Clinical Guidance - https://www.additudemag.com/adhd-and-trauma-overview-signs-symptoms/
What is Rejection Sensitivity Dysphoria? - https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/friendship-20/201907/what-is-rejection-sensitive-dysphoria
Briannah Jewel - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCV_WEuCC_OwOH-FTAwNbWEg
Carl Daikeler refers to Beachbody Coaches as โunsophisticatedโ on quarterly earnings call - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5CjL1grxPs
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
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To add more education and content to our MLMs Abroad episodes, I asked my friend Nic to come and chat about her time in MLM, share with us some companies we may not know and share what she's learned as someone on the outside now looking in. We've chatted about how politics play a large role in MLMs in the US, but did you realize they are just as well connected across the pond? This chat with Nic is just a dip into a deeper topic and problem within MLMS, and we've only just begun.
*This episode features 3 bonus sections than can be accessed on our Patreon!*
Show Notes
Tupperware UK closes down - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-156283/Lid-closes-Tupperware-parties.html
Jaime at Home Closes - https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/jamie-oliver-cookware-jamie-home-17334355
Gloria Mayfield Banks - https://gloriamayfieldbanks.com/
Monica Hayworth - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDkcxSCwDhYNMlxYqR5thmg
Lord Sugar owns 50% of Tropic Skin Care - https://www.mylondon.news/news/south-london-news/sir-alan-sugar-former-apprentice-15926397
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
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Have you ever wanted to live a "cleaner" or "healthier" life? One day you're living free of toxic chemicals, the next you're being fear mongered into a wildly antithetical existence under the guise of "business". For Atalie, being pregnant and terrified of harming her unborn child lead her down a path darker than she had imagined from a health and wellness company. It's a slippery slope from "toxin free" to conspiracy theorist and Atalie walked the line for over 3 years before sharing her truth.
Show Notes
Queen Elizabeth's life in Pictures - https://www.npr.org/sections/pictureshow/2022/09/08/1064160788/these-photos-follow-the-life-of-queen-elizabeth-ii-from-childhood-to-the-throne
JR Ridinger dies suddenly - https://pagesix.com/2022/08/31/miami-socialite-j-r-ridinger-dies-suddenly-at-63/
CULTS, CANCER, AND COVID-19: WELCOME TO ARBONNE, HUN! - https://shityoushouldcareabout.com/article/arbonne
From Huns to Humans - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/from-huns-to-humans/id1585142247
What is Orthorexia? - https://www.webmd.com/mental-health/eating-disorders/what-is-orthorexia
Joyful Movement - https://nutritionstripped.com/joyful-movement/
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
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Sam just wanted to sell cute stuff to her friends and family from the comfort of their living rooms, she didn't realize she was entering a never ending race, chasing after a golden carrot that didn't exist. From her starts in MLM's with shady mergers and takeovers, to her life as a salaried recruiter for traveling trunk shows, Sam has some interesting insights into different facets of the multi level madness of scammy business dealings.
This episode includes over 10 mins of bonus content on our Patreon! Membership starts at $5!
Show Notes
Follow Sam! Twitter | YouTube | Facebook | Instagram
Sam's Podcast - https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/703788.rss
Sam's Website, Moxie Mama - http://moxiemama.tv/
An example of the products sold - https://www.plasticglassandwax.com/collections/southern-living-at-home-willow-house
The Alchemist by Paulo Coelho - https://amzn.to/3QeveAq
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
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You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
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Have you ever found yourself going down a funnel marketing rabbit hole? Clicking link after link, trying to get to the root of what this website is about? What are they selling? How do you make money? Is this a scam? Not all of them are as obvious as you would expect. So when Nikki found herself trapped in a personal development funnel scam linked to a water filter MLM, she wondered how she could have wandered so far off course.
The Freedom Era - https://thefreedomera.com/
Is Freedom Era/Kangen Water a SCAM? - https://maketimeonline.com/the-freedom-era-review
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
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Do you remember what MLM's were like BEFORE the invention of social media? RSVP's, carbon copy receipts, and hands on activities? Maybe you got a Mary Kay makeover, or made a Creative Memories scrapbooking page? Whatever it was it looked a whole lot different than the MLM Parties of today. Join Shelley and I on a walk down 1990-2000's MLM memory lane, to simpler, much more complicated times.
Show Notes
Remembering Bruce A. Craig, Esq - https://mlmchange.org/bruce-craig
Multilevel Marketing and Pyramid Schemes in the United States: An Historical Analysis - https://www.valueplays.net/wp-content/uploads/Keep-and-Vander-Nat_MLM-and-Pyramid-Schemes_Final.pdf
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
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Remember the caller who didn't leave any contact info on the 100th episode? Well she heard the call to action, hit me up and here we are! Meet Big Mo, a woman in the midst of a spiritual awakening, who one day looked around and realized the companies she had been involved with may have been more harm than good. As a woman with autism Mo faces a lot discrimination about her disability, so when a flashy couple with the FOMO lifestyle she wanted promised they would help her every step of the way be as successful as them, she jumped at the "once in a lifetime opportunity" before ever checking for the safety net.
Show Notes
The FBI says it busted a big crypto Ponzi scam. It just got bigger. - https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2022/07/22/crypto-ponzi-scheme-eminifx/
Ponzi schemes Using virtual Currencies - https://www.sec.gov/files/ia_virtualcurrencies.pdf
The ugly truth behind MLM companies promising financial success in crypto and investing - https://screenshot-media.com/culture/internet-culture/mlm-crypto-scam/
NFTs, Cryptocurrencies and Web3 Are Multilevel Marketing Schemes for a New Generation - https://www.wsj.com/articles/nfts-cryptocurrencies-and-web3-are-multilevel-marketing-schemes-for-a-new-generation-11645246824
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
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Sometimes after an episode airs, I get an email about it from a former member, adding more to the story or confirming the wild accusations. But the email I received after a Mary kay episode, made me SMASH that reply button faster than I ever have. After spending over 15 years in a generational Mary Kay family business, Jen wanted to share some of her own Pink Truth. We have a lovely chat about the ups and downs of running an MLM business, the fond memories coupled with new answers to long forgotten awkward moments, and the unconditional devotion of a Mary Kay husband.
Extra bonus audio including "The Six Qualities of a Mary Kay Consultant" and "Baptism in Death" on our Patreon!
Show Notes
Pink Truth -https://www.pinktruth.com/
Americaโs Cult Detector Helps Us Decide If Mary Kay Is a Cult - https://www.pinktruth.com/2021/08/04/americas-cult-detector-helps-us-decide-if-mary-kay-is-a-cult/
MARY KAY COSMETICS: DESTROYING HALF A MILLION WOMEN A YEAR - https://www.sequenceinc.com/fraudfiles/2008/05/mary-kay-cosmetics-destroying-half-a-million-women-a-year/
Mary Kay Bumble Bees - http://blog.marykayfoundation.org/corporate/archive/2017/04/17/be-like-the-bumblebee-fly-when-it-s-impossible.aspx
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
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One of the most vulnerable populations of people being sucked into MLM schemes are students, naรฏve, eager and looking for opportunity everywhere. That's how Ance Vanaga found herself in strange country at the age of 18, going door to door selling books for Southwestern Advantage, maybe the oldest MLM company we've found so far. Over the years of unpacking her experience, Ance started looking into the mental health side of it, and was shocked at what she discovered. So we sat down with each other and had some deep, enlightening and hilarious conversations about MLM's, cults, gaslighting and what we both went through.
Show Notes
Fill out the Podcast Listener Survey! - https://forms.gle/mC1YiMVhEzccLTWX8
Join our Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/robertablevins
Conversations with my Mind : The Learning Podcast -https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/conversations-with-my-mind-the-learning-podcast/id1565402796
My interview with Ance on her show - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/am-i-a-boss-babe-or-a-cult-member-with-roberta-blevins-s2-ep8/id1565402796?i=1000568083656
Ance on IG - https://www.instagram.com/conversations.with.my.mind/
Family Guy Latvian Athletes - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlsQfCtWsfw
Southwestern Advantage - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southwestern_Advantage
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
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What do you think of when you hear the term "Loaded Tea"? Probably brightly colored iced drinks on your social feeds with secretive ingredients, a hush hush attitude around the actual benefits, a high price tag and a lot of additional questions if you're anything like the majority of people. And so when I had the opportunity to talk to Cailee, who not only worked in a "nutrition club", but was actively working toward opening and owning her own, the questions started writing themselves. How do they work? What happens when you join? What does it take to open one? And, are they really just Herbalife recruiting centers in disguise?
Show Notes
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Join our Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/robertablevins
Loaded Tea DUPES with Silver Linings Lessons - https://www.silverlininglessons.com/
The Multilevel Truth Behind Small Town Americaโs Latest Tea Obsession - https://www.eater.com/22958985/loaded-teas-herbalife-mlm-silver-lining-lessons-dupes-nutrition-clubs
Sunflower Boutique - https://www.instagram.com/sunflower_boutique94
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
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Gladys is the powerhouse behind MLMExit, an account dedicated to educating the people of Latin America about the dangers of MLMs. From her early beginnings in a call center for a Time Share scam, to her consumer protection passion project in the works, she's come a long way. Not only does she educate in Spanish, but she's taken on the task of educating Brazil and tackling Portuguese. Our chat is enlightening and makes me proud of the work she is doing and the paths she is paving along the way.
Show Notes
Fill out the Podcast Listener Survey! - https://forms.gle/mC1YiMVhEzccLTWX8
Join our Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/robertablevins
Gladys on Twitter - https://twitter.com/mlmexit
Gladys on IG - https://www.instagram.com/mlmexit/
Gladys on TT - https://www.tiktok.com/@mlmexit
AntiMLM Espanol Reddit - https://www.reddit.com/r/ANTIMLMespanol/
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
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*Content Warning* In this episode we talk about SA and Narcissistic Abuse, please use discretion when listening.
Have you ever experienced a narcissist? Maybe you were raised by one, controlled by one, or in love with one. Sometimes we affectionately call the relationship dynamic a "1-on-1 Cult". Unfortunately for "Tina", she checked all the boxes, and jumped from one frying pan into a brand new frying pan that included being recruited into Amway by a toxic love interest.
Show Notes:
Fill out the Podcast Listener Survey! - https://forms.gle/mC1YiMVhEzccLTWX8
Join our Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/robertablevins
Amway Addiction Kills Marriage - https://www.unhappyfranchisee.com/amway-addiction-kills-marriage/
Amway Ruined my Marriage - http://marriedtoanambot.blogspot.com/2012/09/amway-ruined-my-life.html
How Women Are Fighting the Marketers That Nearly Ruined Them - https://www.thedailybeast.com/how-women-are-fighting-the-marketers-that-nearly-ruined-them
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
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Have you ever seen the comment section of an MLM Horror story? There is almost always someone proclaiming "My MLM isn't like that!" And it's true. Not all MLM stories are horrors that leave you broken and empty. So when I got an email from someone who had a "typical experience" I knew I needed to talk to Bri, who was with R+F for 6 years. Bri did all the things, worked her business, watched the webinars and treated the business like a business and she still felt the need to come on the show and share what happened.
Show Notes
๏ปฟJoin our Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/robertablevins
Bri on IG - https://www.instagram.com/lifelivedbydesign/
Check out Bri's workbook for us! - https://www.lifelivedbydesign.com/podcast
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
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When I first saw the work this woman was doing, I was impressed and in awe of her ambition. Not only was Blanca reaching a new audience, she was doing it in a different language. For the Latin communities, MLM's are an epidemic of affinity fraud and theft by deception, so learning there was someone who was filling the gaps in the education of the movement filled me with pride. While Blanca was lucky enough to avoid joining one, she's been pitched and preyed upon too many times to count. We dive into culture, education, politics and the "deslumbrado" of the promise of living your wildest dreams.
Show Notes
Blanca's YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/c/BlancasLife
Blanca's IG - https://www.instagram.com/blanca_perdomo_/
Blanca's TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@blanca_perdomo_
Blanca's Backup - https://www.tiktok.com/@blancaperdomo_
The Pandemic Leaves more Latinos Vulnerable to Illegal Pyramid Schemes - https://projectpulso.org/2020/10/28/the-pandemic-leaves-more-latinos-vulnerable-to-illegal-pyramid-schemes/
Latino Entrepreneurs Need Federal Protection from Pyramid Schemes - https://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/economy-budget/319625-latino-entrepreneurs-need-federal-protection-from-pyramid?rl=1
MLMs: Predatory Scams or Entrepreneurial Opportunities? - https://www.business.com/articles/mlms-target-women-and-immigrants/
Multi-Level Marketing Companies Profit Off of Economic Exploitation -https://dailytitan.com/opinion/multi-level-marketing-companies-profit-off-of-economic-exploitation/article_3ae748fd-4a4e-5e0d-a493-9cd1c1cea723.html
An Inside Look at the the Day Without Immigrants Demonstration in DC - https://www.latinorebels.com/2022/02/14/dayiwithoutimmigrants/
Carlos Eduardo Espina's TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@carlos_eduardo_espina
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide
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*Content Warning* In this episode we talk about topics relating to diet culture, including disordered eating, food restriction, orthorexia and other triggering topics. Please use discretion.
To continue our education into the circle diagram that is the diet industry and MLMs, today we're talking with Jennifer DAmato, an Intuitive Eating Counselor and Body Image coach. Jen and I chat about our own experiences with some toxic diet culture firsts; being fat shamed, starting our first diets, and the food police under our own roofs. We break down some facts about the $70B+ diet industry, talk about healthy ways to look at food and what orthorexia is and what to do if you think you may have it.
Show Notes
Follow Jen on IG - https://www.instagram.com/jennifer_healthcoach4life/
Jen's website! - https://www.healthcoach4life.com/learn-more
Jen's Podcast - Health, Life & More for Women - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/health-life-and-more-for-women-podcast/id1479547170
Exercise, metabolism, and weight: New research from The Biggest Loser - https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/exercise-metabolism-and-weight-new-research-from-the-biggest-loser-202201272676
Easy Beef Stroganoff Recipe - https://www.gimmesomeoven.com/easy-beef-stroganoff-recipe/
What is Orthorexia? - https://www.webmd.com/mental-health/eating-disorders/what-is-orthorexia
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
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MLM's and the health claims they repeat are dangerous, but often times we aren't really sure why. We place our faith and health in the hands of product reps who make illegal claims to get you to sign on the dotted line, but what could go wrong? I often get a lot of questions about the efficacy of essential oils as a natural health alternative, and so I asked my friend Kayla to come share her journey with that exact thing. As someone who has allergies to most modern medicinal solutions, Kayla was swept into the promise of essential oils being her saving grace, to the point that she was encapsulating and ingesting oils every single day.
Show Notes
Kayla on YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjojm7G_kPBK_j6QpgS4UPw
Kayla on IG - https://www.instagram.com/realtalk_safespace/
Is It Safe to Ingest Essential Oils? An Aromatherapist and an MD Weigh In - https://www.wellandgood.com/can-you-ingest-essential-oils/
EXPOSED: The Dark Side of Young Living Essential Oils - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jm2I1JpfyiQ
Young Living and the Man Who Murdered For His Oil Empire:
Part 1 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOgsFyVtvM8&t=3s
Part 2 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fal68dc6LuY
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
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On December 27th, 2011 a 911 call is placed at 130 Sumac Drive in Troy Missouri that starts the domino effect of one of the strangest cases of murder and fraud I've ever heard. On a recommendation, I started watching The Thing About Pam on NBC starring Renee Zellwegger and couldn't get enough. Not many fraudsters are as bold and brazen as Pam, and I knew I had to learn as much as I could to find the answers... Unfortunately it just lead to even more questions.
Show Notes
Watch the YouTube video of this pod that includes photos and videos from this case for more context! - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwL8RjSCrTs
Watch The Thing About Pam - https://amzn.to/39b8wtz
Read Bone Deep: Untangling the Betsy Faria Murder Case - https://amzn.to/3NUp5Ja
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
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I know that MLMs are a HUGE thing here in the states, but I was curious what it was like other places, like the UK for example. I always see comments and questions about the more UK based MLMs like The Body Shop at Home, FM World and Inteletravel. These just aren't MLMs that I run across all that often, so I reached out to someone who would know, Charlie Harris. Charlie speaks out on social media about the problems with MLMs in the UK and most specifically Inteletravel. her former company. I had NO IDEA how the travel MLMs worked, so it was lovely to chat with Charlie and pick her brain about an MLM you guys ask me about a lot.
Show Notes
Charlie's YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/c/DearSociety1/
Charlie's Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/__dearsociety/
Charlie's TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@dearsocietybackup
MLMs in the UK: how multi-level marketing schemes are using โfeminist jargonโ to recruit women since the pandemic - https://www.stylist.co.uk/long-reads/women-joining-mlms-since-lockdown/579495
MLM schemes in the UK: The 'cult-like' beauty businesses in your DMs - https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-55145586
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
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You may know Nick Anderson because he's all over Instagram, combining fitness education with humor and authenticity. Or maybe you know him because he married to From Huns to Humans podcast host, Danielle Bolster! Either way, Nick is a riot and brought his unique perspective to our chat, that includes his former guilt over a lonely Panera sandwich, our PopTart preferences, easy ways to get more veggies in.... If you can't tell, Nick loves food as much as I do. Maybe don't listen to this while you're hungry.
Show Notes
Nick's Services - https://nickandersonfitness.com/
Nick on IG - https://www.instagram.com/nickandersonfitness/
Nick on TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@nickandersonfitness
Life After MLM : The Show - Nick Anderson & Toxic Fitness Culture - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W31XvgvqbyE
Butter on a PopTart - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlsFgDjyePc
Kono's in San Diego - http://www.konoscafe.com/
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide
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You have been asking me for an episode on doTERRA, and so I reached out to Jamie and asked her to come share her experiences in the company! With her background in massage therapy, it was only a matter of time until MLM found its way in her life. doTERRA often gets a "break" in the public eye because of their clever marketing and celebrity endorsements, so I asked someone who knows better than I do to talk about the culture, what faith manipulation looks like in the "wellness" space, informed consent, canceling auto shipments, and the hard hitting question; Is doTERRA any different? Let's find out.
Show Notes
Follow Jamie's NEW IG - https://www.instagram.com/essentially_over_mlms/
Life After MLM : The Show - Jamie Smith & doTERRA - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWkxsWB833Y
Thompson Square promotes doTERRA on IG - https://www.instagram.com/p/CO_szfsBHlP/
Meet doTERRA's Performance Advocates -https://www.doterra.com/US/en/performance-advocates
Why Oh Why is Ben Lee Selling Essential Oils on YouTube: An Investigation - https://www.vice.com/en/article/43ygkd/why-oh-why-is-ben-lee-selling-essential-oils-on-youtube-an-investigation
Ben Lee's Open Letter to DoTerra re: QAnon - https://twitter.com/benleemusic/status/1329839932228120578
The Recovering Hunbot's OnPassive Playlist - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p31BH-e6KBw&list=PLQS-jTYfn9yaVIvO78xLaMbRS2sZz1FRB
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide
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The amount of messages I get from people asking me what they can do to help with AntiMLM awareness is humbling. I know so many feel compelled to share, educate and scream from the rooftops about these predatory scams, but feel lost in the space and not sure where they "fit". I first met Laurie through the AntiMLM space and along the way became friends. Although Laurie and I recorded this months ago, it's still a great reminder to those finding their place in this community of amazing people. I also just want to thank her again for all of the help with the Facebook group, along with the entire AdMod team. ANGELS!
Show Notes
Chalene Johnson Speaks Out - https://www.chalenejohnson.com/why-did-chalene-leave-beachbody/
Life After MLM : The Group - https://www.facebook.com/groups/266601078162081
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide
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Emily Paulson was a MegaHun before certain circumstances in her life made her reevaluate her life choices and make some amends. Throughout her sobriety journey, she learned A LOT about herself and began to unpack her life in MLM. On Emily's IG you can find the Highlight Real, her transparency and honesty outside the filtered lens of social media perfection. Not only to we talk about her former company and life as one of their top HunBots, but we talk about what it looks like to write a book about your story, where to start and how to get published.
Show Notes
Emily's website! - https://www.emilylynnpaulson.com/media
The Today Show : Staying Sober During the Holidays - https://www.today.com/health/struggle-stay-sober-during-holidays-t239933
Emily's Book! : Highlight Real: Finding Honesty and Recovery Beyond the Filtered Life - https://amzn.to/3shkQ20
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide
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Don't forget to submit your comment to the FTC! www.mlmchange.org for ALL the info you need!
For more information about LLS and MWOY visit https://robertablevins.com/lls-mwoy-2022
100 EPISODES! I never thought in a million years when I started Life After MLM, that I would be sharing our 100th episode! I wasn't sure how to celebrate this, so I asked fans, followers and friends to send me short voice memos about how the show had helped them in their lives after MLM. I also found some voice memos I hadn't listened to, and the callers made some awesome points and asked some important questions, so I added those too! I hope you enjoy this fun little celebration of LAMLM, and we will be bac next week with more MLM stories!
Show Notes
Visit my website! - www.robertablevins.com
Watch The Adventures of Hunberta here - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLtIbgxk9grE6DBu0OgRrJ4wZ7z0fKy4--
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide
Support the Podcast!
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Don't forget to submit your comment to the FTC! www.mlmchange.org for ALL the info you need!
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Rachael's giggle inducing content first caught my eye as "Chelsee Diamond" a hilariously out-of-touch MegaHun with horrible advice and life hacks, but I stayed for the Brotastic LinkedIn Brobots slander and spot on Elizabeth Holmes impersonations. In her real life Rachael sees a lot of people selling coaching sessions and selling courses on the vague idea of "business". We chat about what it's like creating parody content, what her inspirations are, and the legitimacy of REAL coaching, what it should do for you and how to find one that won't scam you.
Show Notes
Rachael in Real Life -https://rachaelwonderlin.com/
Follow "Chelsee" - https://www.instagram.com/coachingcoachestocoach/
LinkedIn Bro Accepts the Friend Request - https://www.instagram.com/p/Ca-O7adjCYq/
Elizabeth Holmes Responds to Hulu - https://www.instagram.com/p/CasfqlKJVDg/
Boss Babe Travel Tips with Chelsee Diamond - https://www.instagram.com/p/CaDalBGpMUY/
Random Face Generator (This Person Does Not Exist) - https://this-person-does-not-exist.com/
Pia Silva - https://www.piasilva.com/
Christina Scalera - https://christinascalera.com/
Social Blade - https://socialblade.com/
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide
Support the Podcast!
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This episode is sponsored by Credit Karma! Go to CreditKarma.com or the Credit Karma app to find the right offer for you!
Don't forget to submit your comment to the FTC! www.mlmchange.org for ALL the info you need!
For more information about LLS and MWOY visit https://robertablevins.com/lls-mwoy-2022
When I say Devyn and I have been trying to connect FOR-EV-ER, I mean it! She has been instrumental in helping get my acne rosacea flares under control and helped me feel more confident in my skin after a summer full of harsh comments on social media. As an aesthetician, Devyn deals with a lot of skin issues, so I figured she would be an excellent person to talk to about MLM Skin Care, and low and behold, she's got a cringey MLM story to share with us as well!
Devyn is also going to be HONORING her OLD PRICE PLUS 10% off using code CULT! That's almost half off!
Show Notes
Pure Skin OC - https://www.pureskinoc.com/
Pure Skin Talk Podcast - https://www.pureskinoc.com/pureskintalk.html
Votre Vu Closes - https://www.businessforhome.org/2014/12/dsa-member-votre-vu-closes-down/
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide
Support the Podcast!
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Dave and I met back in the early days of the AntiMLM movement on Facebook. He was an avid commenter and follower and over the years became a great friends in the fight against MLMs. Dave sends me a lot of the content we react to on YouTube, and is a wealth of information and has been an instrumental help with the FTC ANPR. But with all this time and effort in the movement, I've never heard Dave's story, which comes from a very ernst place of love and compassion. It's understandable how going through an experience like that could lead you to where Dave found himself. And thank goodness for Save, because he is a wealth of MLM history and information!
Show Notes
The Dream Podcast - https://www.stitcher.com/show/the-dream
The DSA - https://www.dsa.org/
#beacauseofdeanne - https://www.instagram.com/explore/tags/becauseofdeanne/
DSSRC - https://bbbprograms.org/programs/all-programs/dssrc
LAMLM The Show : Usana The Musical - https://youtu.be/hz30rPrRoM8
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide
Support the Podcast!
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This week's sponsor is BetterHelp. Listeners of the show receive 10% off their first month of online therapy by visiting betterhelp.com/mlm
*CONTENT WARNING* - In this episode we talk about several topics that may be triggering, including infant loss, body image, psychological tactics and strong language. Please use discretion.
Have you been watching the Monat Dumpster Fire on social media? It's hard to miss if you're following enough AntiMLM content. It all started when Angelique Robles, a Managing Market Mentor had some questions and concerns about things she was seeing happening within the company. What followed can only be described as a shitshow that lead her to reaching out to the AntiMLM community for real answers. I get so many comments about talking to Reps who are still in, so I asked her if she would be willing to chat about her life IN MLM and she agreed! But what happens in the middle of our chat is SHOCKING and literally CANNOT BE MISSED. I never expected this in a million years!
Show Notes
Monat fires Angelique but keeps Angela and Mandie - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XlIHT59W7A
Terminated Market Partner Reacts to Secret Zoom Call About Her - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBiM19YWcSw
MONAT LEADER TERMINATED FOR SPEAKING OUT! - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CoNi9J3XCs&t=2250s
MONAT IS A CULT: FIRING REPS FOR WANTING CHANGE *DAMAGE CONTROL ZOOM CALL REACTION - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrDL1RqTWuA
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide
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To keep continuing our education into Faith Manipulation, we speak to Sabrina Bowen who grew up Jehovah's Witness in a religiously Pro MLM home where her mother was the town's Avon Lady. After 3 failed attempts at various MLMs, it wasn't until years later, that she even realized what she had been a part of and connected the commercial cult experience to her time in JW.'s. Thanks to an episode on A Little Bit Culty that opened her eyes to the red flags she had hidden for so long, Sabrina reached out to me to chat about AmeriPlanUSA, an MLM that even I wasn't familiar with the claims to be "Not like the others".
Register for our LLS Team! - https://app.smartsheet.com/b/form/2bf031cdae16440cbd22a392dc36dfd9
We started a YouTube Show! It's called Life After MLM : The Show (obviously) and we stream LIVE every Friday! Make sure to subscribe! https://www.youtube.com/c/RobertaBlevinsLAMLM
Show Notes
A Little Bit Culty - https://www.alittlebitculty.com/
Leah Remini: Scientology and the Aftermath Episode 101 - The Jehovah's Witnesses - https://amzn.to/3qODvBB
AmeriPlanUSA Numbers - https://www.ftc.gov/sites/default/files/documents/public_comments/trade-regulation-rule-disclosure-requirements-and-prohibitions-concerning-business-opportunities-ftc.r511993-00008%C2%A0/00008-57281.pdf
AmeriPlanUSA Comp Plan - https://www.ameriplanusa.com/compensation-plan/
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide
Support the Podcast!
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This week's sponsor is BetterHelp. Listeners of the show receive 10% off their first month of online therapy by visiting betterhelp.com/mlm
Register for our LLS Team! - https://app.smartsheet.com/b/form/2bf031cdae16440cbd22a392dc36dfd9
We started a YouTube Show! It's called Life After MLM : The Show (obviously) and we stream LIVE every Friday! Make sure to subscribe! https://www.youtube.com/c/RobertaBlevinsLAMLM
The first thing that caught my eye with Nicole's content was her use of Broadway musical numbers in her AntiMLM education; I'm a sucker for choreography. I was excited to talk to Nicole about her content, her faith and what she sees as an AntiMLM Creator. We run the gamut from faith manipulation to breaking generational curses and I get on my hairstylist soapbox and we talk about Monat and "Luxury" hair products.
Show Notes
Share an ANONYMOUS story with Nicole to be featured on her IG! antimlmnicole@gmail.com
Follow on IG! https://www.instagram.com/antimlmnicole/
Follow on TikTok! https://www.tiktok.com/@antimlmnicole
Savannah Marie & Farmasi - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyQvTZxedqg
Crack the Crown YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/c/BluegrassBling
Savannah Marie & Paparazzi - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qh1Lk3bvrKs
An Overlapping Venn Diagram: Christianity and Multi-Level Marketing Schemes - https://www.patheos.com/blogs/rolltodisbelieve/2018/02/28/overlapping-venn-diagram-christianity-mlm/
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide
Support the Podcast!
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Register for our LLS Team! - https://app.smartsheet.com/b/form/2bf031cdae16440cbd22a392dc36dfd9
We started a YouTube Show! It's called Life After MLM : The Show (obviously) and we stream LIVE every Friday! Make sure to subscribe! https://www.youtube.com/c/RobertaBlevinsLAMLM
Matt and I became TikTok friends when we kept getting tagged in each others videos about Pruvit and Optavia. With the way social media is nowadays, everywhere you turn it seems your favorite creators are getting sucked into pyramid schemes and flooding your feed with MLM BS. As an ISSA Certified Personal Trainer, ISSA Certified Nutritionist, and certified Precision Nutrition Level 1 Coach, he's more than qualified to educate us on health, fitness, and toxic diet culture, and as someone who's seen the effects of pyramid schemes on the industry, he won't ever trick you into one of those either.
Show Notes
Fit Fat Training - https://fitfattraining.com/
Matt Van Der Laar - https://www.instagram.com/mattlaarfit/
Beefcake Brina - https://www.instagram.com/beefcake_brina/
Kat Benson - https://www.instagram.com/dietitiankatbenson/
Andy Does Healthy - https://www.instagram.com/andydoeshealthy/
"Doctor" Sebi - https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/quackery/dr-sebi-what-do-we-make-him
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide
Support the Podcast!
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This week's sponsor is BetterHelp. Listeners of the show receive 10% off their first month of online therapy by visiting betterhelp.com/mlm
Register for our LLS Team! - https://app.smartsheet.com/b/form/2bf031cdae16440cbd22a392dc36dfd9
We started a YouTube Show! It's called Life After MLM : The Show (obviously) and we stream LIVE every Friday! Make sure to subscribe! https://www.youtube.com/c/RobertaBlevinsLAMLM
Have you heard the news about the FTC? Well if not, I got you! In this episode some friends of the show return to talk about the FTC's ANPR, what it means and how YOU can help! First up we have Doug Brooks, to help break down what this all means for the regular person and answers a few FAQs that have come up in the last couple weeks. Then after the break, Michelle Carpenter joins me to explain the backstory behind her website MLMChange.org, how to navigate it's information, what's coming and a call to action if you want to help us in this fight!
Show Notes
Life After MLM : The Show - The FTC's ANPR with Bill Keep - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtMawXS9RD0
HOW TO COMMENT TO THE FTC ABOUT MISLEADING INCOME CLAIMS - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjgQTA9Gdzk
MLMChange.org - https://mlmchange.org/
Cutting Ties : Healing After MLM - https://amzn.to/35IOhRY
Dave's FTC Comment Quiz! - https://www.opinionstage.com/dave-vaughan/which-ftc-questions-should-you-comment-on
Find your Legislator - https://openstates.org/find_your_legislator/
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide
Support the Podcast!
Buy me a Taco and leave me a note! ๐ฎ๐ - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevins
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Register for our LLS Team! - https://app.smartsheet.com/b/form/2bf031cdae16440cbd22a392dc36dfd9
We started a YouTube Show! It's called Life After MLM : The Show (obviously) and we stream LIVE every Friday at 9am pst! Make sure to subscribe! https://www.youtube.com/c/RobertaBlevinsLAMLM
Amber and I have been meaning to chat on the show for a LONG time, and after a bit of fair gaming a couple weeks back, we connected and made it happen. But before we get to the culty Monat stuff, Amber takes us on her journey through Beachbody, as an Emerald Coach golden child who had some of those "not typical" results and was used in advertising and company propaganda to push the toxic diet culture MLMs thrive in. We explore the character arch of Beachbody darling, Autumn Calabrese, the ups and downs of disordered eating and how Beachbody plays a role in it all.
Show Notes
Multi Level Marketing: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6MwGeOm8iI
Metabolife - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metabolife
Lauren Evan's GoFundMe - https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-lauren-with-medical-cost
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide
Support the Podcast!
Buy me a Taco and leave me a note! ๐ฎ๐ - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevins
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This weeks sponsor is Best Fiends! Download Best Fiends on the Apple App Store, or Google Play for free today!
๏ปฟThis week's sponsor is BetterHelp. Listeners of the show receive 10% off their first month of online therapy by visiting betterhelp.com/mlm
Register for our LLS Team! - https://app.smartsheet.com/b/form/2bf031cdae16440cbd22a392dc36dfd9
We started a YouTube Show! It's called Life After MLM : The Show (obviously) and we stream LIVE every Friday at 9am pst! Make sure to subscribe! https://www.youtube.com/c/RobertaBlevinsLAMLM
Lauren and I connected on Instagram, where she is doing some difficult work dismantling toxic diet culture and anti fat bias. As a former member of Le-Vel, Lauren had an important MLM story to share filled with toxic positivity and a nasty upline. As an educator, Dr. Merklin takes us on a journey to help end the stigma of fatphobia, educate us on the startlingly familiar statistics of the diet industry, and share some pretty cool history about the body positivity movement.
Show Notes
Anti Diet Fatty on Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/secretlifeofemotionaleating/
Anti Diet Fatty on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/antidietfatty/
Health at Every Size - https://amzn.to/3h4sI0t
9 Responses to Unsolicited Body/Food Comments: https://www.antidietfatty.com/f/9responses
The Black History of the Body Positive Movement - https://zenerations.org/2020/08/21/the-black-history-of-the-body-positive-movement/
Intuitive Eating - https://www.intuitiveeating.org/10-principles-of-intuitive-eating/
Anti-Diet Alchemy Membership (unlearn diet culture & fatphobia with a community where you belong) - https://www.antidietfatty.com/courses/alchemy
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide
Support the Podcast!
Buy me a Taco and leave me a note! ๐ฎ๐ - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevins
Follow me on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa & https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa2.0
Follow us on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/
Like us on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast
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This weeks sponsors is BetterHelp. Listeners of the show receive 10% off their first month of online therapy by visiting betterhelp.com/mlm
Register for our LLS Team! - https://app.smartsheet.com/b/form/2bf031cdae16440cbd22a392dc36dfd9
We started a YouTube Show! It's called Life After MLM : The Show (obviously) and we stream LIVE every Friday at 9am pst! Make sure to subscribe! https://www.youtube.com/c/RobertaBlevinsLAMLM
Meet Danielle Bolster, a licensed mental health counselor, as the host of the podcast, From Huns to Humans! On her show, Danielle takes a deeper look into the mental health concerns of the victims of these scams which makes it a fantastic companion show to this one! For our ONE YEAR ANNIVERSARY episode, I wanted to share Danielle's story of her life both in and after MLM, how this podcast changed the trajectory of her advocacy and what's next in the compassionate AntiMLM movement.
Show Notes
From Huns to Humans - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/from-huns-to-humans/id1585142247
Danielle's IG - https://www.instagram.com/from_huns_to_humans/
Danielle's TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@fromhunstohumans
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide
Support the Podcast!
Buy me a Taco and leave me a note! ๐ฎ๐ - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevins
Follow me on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa & https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa2.0
Follow us on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/
Like us on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast
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This weeks sponsor is Best Fiends! Download Best Fiends on the Apple App Store, or Google Play for free today!
Register for our LLS Team! - https://app.smartsheet.com/b/form/2bf031cdae16440cbd22a392dc36dfd9
We started a YouTube Show! It's called Life After MLM : The Show (obviously) and we stream LIVE every Friday at 9am pst! Make sure to subscribe! https://www.youtube.com/c/RobertaBlevinsLAMLM
You may know Alanda Carter by her online persona, The Recovering Hunbot, where she DEEP dives companies and top Huns on her YouTube channel of the same name. Whenever someone asks me about Kangen Water, I send them straight to Alanda and her work exposing Enagic and Darren and Mike. We also did some work together, exposing the culty scam Zafire back in 2021 with Chelsea Flores. But today Alanda has found some bigger fish to fry, in the form of a dangerously culty MLM called OnPassive that's getting some attention finally. I didn't know much about them, so I called Alanda and asked her to help us out! You'll even get to hear one of OnPassive's worship songs to their MLM Leader, Ash. It's a wild ride, so buckle up!
Show Notes
YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/c/TheRecoveringHunbot
Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/the_recovering_hunbot/
Filter Showerhead - https://amzn.to/3ITpGrZ
Darren & Mike Playlist - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLQS-jTYfn9yamf6cGD1W4ldgfEq7G8Dmy
OnPassive Playlist - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLQS-jTYfn9yaVIvO78xLaMbRS2sZz1FRB
OnPassive Song Playlist - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgnNhJYUcu4
MLM Conference - https://www.mlmconference.com/
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide
Support the Podcast!
Buy me a Taco and leave me a note! ๐ฎ๐ - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevins
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Follow us on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/
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This weeks sponsor is Best Fiends! Download Best Fiends on the Apple App Store, or Google Play for free today!
We started a YouTube Show! It's called Life After MLM : The Show (obviously) and we stream LIVE every Friday at 9am pst! Make sure to subscribe! https://www.youtube.com/c/RobertaBlevinsLAMLM
When Angie emailed me, saying she had a story about her time in Pampered Chef I knew we had to chat! So much of what she experienced in MLM is unfortunately utterly commonplace and we needed to talk about it. From pushing personal boundaries and feeling pressure to lie to the subtle ways that MLMs mess with us on the daily and #MLMeastereggs, Angie and my chat runs the gamut. I personally had very little knowledge of Pampered Chef, but what I learned about their inner workings and practices, was shocking. And with an upline like Angie's, who needs "friends"?
Show Notes
Before and After meeting Leah and Mike! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa/video/7058053920882658606
Follow Shady Pines Designs!
Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/shadypinesdesignsbyangie/
Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/ShadyPinesDesigns/
Etsy - https://www.etsy.com/shop/ShadyPinesDesignsbyA
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide
Support the Podcast!
Buy me a Taco and leave me a note! ๐ฎ๐ - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevins
Follow me on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa & https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa2.0
Follow us on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/
Like us on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast
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What a treat! We've got Doug Brooks on the show today, and were breaking down some hard truths and MLM facts. Doug has been helping take down MLM's for the past 30 years helping the little guys fight the good fight, so he has seen his fair share of cases. We recorded this back in September, and as we know, LOTS has happened since then! This episode is a great introduction into a lot of the topics and intersections of MLM that we will be discussing this year on the show, including the origins of MLM, MLM politics and what steps to take if you think you need MLM legal help.
Show Notes
Douglas M. Brooks, Esq - https://www.pyramidschemealert.org/douglas-m-brooks-esq/
WEBSTER v. OMNITRITION INTERNATIONAL INC - https://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-9th-circuit/1139924.html
SECURITIES & EXCH. COM'N v. Koscot Interplanetary, Inc., 365 F. Supp. 588 (N.D. Ga. 1973) - https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/FSupp/365/588/1414438/
Glenn W Turner - https://richmond.com/community/goochland-gazette/news/looking-back-daring-to-be-great/article_4f14ab34-695c-11eb-8b44-a7df57521c86.html
Find your Congressional Representative - https://www.house.gov/representatives/find-your-representative
DSA's Open Secrets - https://www.opensecrets.org/political-action-committees-pacs/direct-selling-assn/C00078535/summary/2018
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide
Support the Podcast!
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Tamara Rubin's young sons were acutely lead poisoned when a worker on their home wasn't using lead safe practices like he claimed. What followed became a passion for knowledge and public education on heavy metal safety and advocacy best known as Lead Safe Mama. Over the years, Tamara has tested a variety of MLM products with shocking results, including two current scams we won't let up about, Paparazzi and Black Oxygen Organics. Because she's a "citizen scientist" and far better equipped to read the results than we are, I asked her to give us her interpretation on the new digestive results, compare them to her own XFR testing and let us know what we should be worried about and what areas to focus on for the biggest legal impact.
Show Notes
Tamara Rubin "Lead Safe Mama" - https://tamararubin.com/
LSM Paparazzi Results - https://tamararubin.com/category/paparazzi/
LSM Black Oxygen Organics Results - https://tamararubin.com/2021/12/links-to-all-black-oxygen-organics-lead-safe-mama-test-results-updated-when-new-results-are-published/
LSM on Cooper 2009 - https://tamararubin.com/2017/03/toothpaste-conversation/
"I did that and I turned out fine" - https://tamararubin.com/2015/02/fine/
Crack the Crown YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/c/BluegrassBling
Savannah Marie on Paparazzi - https://youtu.be/Va6LCu6rRp4
Want to send something to Tamara? - https://tamararubin.com/2017/07/subscribe-in-support-of-my-advocacy-work-you-can-become-eligible-to-send-in-a-box-of-your-things-for-testing/
DONATE to Lead Safe Mama! - https://tamararubin.com/2017/01/chip-in/
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide
Support the Podcast!
Buy me a Taco and leave me a note! ๐ฎ๐ - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevins
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Have you ever seen those ads on social media for MLM coaching? Those courses that promise all the secrets to MLM success for the low, low price of $500? I hate those, and so does Michelle Carpenter, a former Beach Body Boss Babe who fell for it. hook, line, and sinker. It's been a topic I've wanted to cover for awhile, so it was fate when Michelle emailed me asking about an episode idea. I also had never really dove into the world of Beach Body; the extreme diet culture, the toxic cult and the obvious pyramid scheme red flags - and BOY! was I SHOCKED to say the least.
Show Notes
Follow Michelle on social!
Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/falliblespoonie/
TikTok- https://www.tiktok.com/@spoonstop
Support Michelle's biz - https://spoonstop.com/
Amanda Montell - http://amandamontell.com/
Avon mark. - https://www.facebook.com/AVONINC/
Spoon Theory - https://www.healthline.com/health/spoon-theory-chronic-illness-explained-like-never-before
The Business Coaching Industry Is Going to Implode. Here's How to Survive - https://www.inc.com/amanda-abella/the-business-coaching-industry-is-going-to-implode-heres-how-to-survive.html
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide
Support the Podcast!
Buy me a Taco and leave me a note! ๐ฎ๐ - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevins
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Happy New Year!!! We're smack dab in the middle of making this podcast even better for 2022, so don't mind our dust or whatever people say when they are open during construction. You'll start to notice a few changes in the coming weeks, so stay tuned!
Tracey Reid returns with ALL THE PAPA TEA!!! I cannot tell you how many comments I get about Tracey's episode, and people asking what she's been up to since the PapaDrama has NOT slowed down. So I hit her up and asked her to come back and share EVERYTHING she's been up to since we last sat down to chat, and IT'S A LOT. Besides the Lead and Nickel allegations, and the third party testing, Tracey also gives us some details on a grassroots documentary with the working title of "PapaPoor", the hate she's received since taking the reigns and exposing Paparazzi on her weekly show, Tea Time. It's everything you've come to expect from Tracey Reid and more.
Show Notes
Crack the Crown - https://www.facebook.com/crackthecrown
Papa Survivors Facebook group - https://www.facebook.com/groups/1364031780665956
NOT Lead and Nickel Free - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lW25Jga-6c
Lead Safe Mama & Paparazzi - https://tamararubin.com/category/paparazzi/
Shakers - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shakers
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
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Welcome to DAY 9 of 9 DAYS OF HOLIDAY MAGIC! WE DID IT!!!!!! I hope your season is filled with the embodiment of HOLIDAY MAGIC, as we count down to 2022!
Jenni Wild is a PURE DELIGHT, and if you haven't heard of her until now, get ready to fall in love. Her content is filled with fact based education and empathetic compassion, while still being HILARIOUSLY charming and wholesome. She's got an amazing cast of characters she portrays on social, and her Drew Barrymore impersonation is air tight, but she brought back and old favorite just for us. I think we need a TikTok debut! As a former Monat Hun and someone with trichotillomania, Jenni has an interesting perspective on targeting those with hair loss that's valuable for anyone still in and finding themselves repeating these behaviors. We also touch on #WFABB and iGenius, and how the product doesn't really matter.
Show Notes
Follow Jenni on Social!
Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/thejenniwild/
TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@thejenniwild
TelexFree - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telexfree
Stu MacMillian, Ponzi CEO - https://behindmlm.com/companies/telexfree/stuart-macmillan-interim-ceo-of-a-nonexistant-business/
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide
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Welcome to DAY 8 of 9 DAYS OF HOLIDAY MAGIC in the month of December! Named after the spirit of the season AND the MLM that was shut down by the FTC in 1974 after being found to be operating as a pyramid scheme. Check out our Giveaway before it ends! I hope your season is filled with the embodiment of HOLIDAY MAGIC, as we count down to 2022!
You may know her on social media as any number of her hilarious personas; Barb, the confused empty nester, Kkayleighee, the classic hunbot, or my favorite, Skeem Lee, the empathically intense MEGAHUN, but Mallory Grantz is much more than a cast of characters. As a music teacher by day, it's no surprise that she's loaded with talent and comedic timing. We chat about a lot of different topics including her participation in Tupperware and Perfectly Posh, and how MLM's take advantage of natural disasters and national tragedy in the name of sales.
Show Notes
Follow Mallory on Social!
Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/idontwantnohuns/
TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@idontwantnohuns?lang=en
"I'm a Good Person" - https://www.tiktok.com/@idontwantnohuns/video/7032461594659474693
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide
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Welcome to DAY 6 of 9 DAYS OF HOLIDAY MAGIC in the month of December! Named after the spirit of the season AND the MLM that was shut down by the FTC in 1974 after being found to be operating as a pyramid scheme. Check out our Giveaway before it ends! I hope your season is filled with the embodiment of HOLIDAY MAGIC, as we count down to 2022!
*The stories shared in LuLaBitch are our own personal experiences, opinions and allegations of our time in the cult LuLaRoe. Some accounts may be triggering. Please listen at your own discretion. This is meant as a companion series to the Amazon Docuseries, LuLaRich, and the Discovery+ show The Rise and Fall of LuLaRoe and is in no way affiliated with the films.*
If you've seen The Rise and Fall of LuLaRoe, you're familiar with Carla Hadfield, the owner of the Airstream and Sam's biggest victim. As with most exposes, a lot gets left on the cutting room floor, so when Carla expressed concern that some of what she shared might be cut out due to time constraints, I invited her to spill her guts to us. While Carla's MLM story isn't much different than most, what happened to her at the hands of a predator inside the organization definitely is. Through a series of vulnerable events, coercive conversations, and emotional manipulation, Sam stole almost everything Carla had, until she decided to fight back.
Show Notes
Watch The Rise and Fall of LuLaRoe now! FREE 7-day trial! - https://amzn.to/3DOBqsU
Sam's Videos - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqSjJzu3N8g90IeX_w2KskQ/videos
LuLaRoe & Piphany - https://news.lularoe.com/news-articles/2019/2/11/memorandum-of-understanding-between-llr-inc-and-piphany
The Weed Farm that didn't Exist - https://www.bustle.com/entertainment/lularoe-nephew-sam-schultz-weed-farm-businesses
Sam is arrested - https://kutv.com/news/local/man-arrested-for-asking-people-to-invest-thousands-into-imaginary-marijuana-farm
What Sam posted the day Rise and Fall came out - https://www.facebook.com/508290233/videos/298932258822260/
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide
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Welcome to DAY 5 of 9 DAYS OF HOLIDAY MAGIC in the month of December! Named after the spirit of the season AND the MLM that was shut down by the FTC in 1974 after being found to be operating as a pyramid scheme. Check out our Giveaway before it ends! I hope your season is filled with the embodiment of HOLIDAY MAGIC, as we count down to 2022!
Have you seen The Rise and Fall of LuLaRoe yet? I have, and I have some thoughts. Plus! I had the honor of chatting with Stephanie McNeal, the journalist whose 2020 expose of LuLaRoe, lead to the new documentary on Discovery+ about what it was like making the film, why she chose to make another LuLaRoe doc, and what she wanted to share that hadn't been shared before. Plus, we speak with Rise and Fall star, Heather Blevins and the creator of the infamous group Defective, Julie Dean, about the early days of exposing LuLaRoe, running a Facebook group full of 75k+ angry LuLaRoe victims and what they think about everything that's happened after a pair of black leggings ripped to shreds.
Show Notes
Watch The Rise and Fall of LuLaRoe now! FREE 7-day trial! - https://amzn.to/3DOBqsU
LuLaRoe and BiPOC - https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/lularoe-mlm-documentary-discovery-black-people-of-color-1270766/
Stephanie's 2020 Expose - https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/stephaniemcneal/lularoe-millennial-women-entrepreneurship-lawsuits
LuLaRoe Retailer Issues Death Threat - https://lularoefail.com/2018/02/02/lularoe-retailer-issues-death-threat/
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide
Support the Podcast!
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Welcome to DAY 5 of 9 DAYS OF HOLIDAY MAGIC in the month of December! Named after the spirit of the season AND the MLM that was shut down by the FTC in 1974 after being found to be operating as a pyramid scheme. Check out our Giveaway before it ends! I hope your season is filled with the embodiment of HOLIDAY MAGIC, as we count down to 2022!
After Megan came on the show, her and I become so much closer! I am thrilled at what she's been up to and what she's accomplished in the last few months since we talked! She's created an AMAZING workbook that helps work through some of the processes of leaving MLM, by asking tough, but compassionate questions that create some personal introspection and awareness. It is a FANTASTIC accompaniment to those already personally working through these issues, or currently in therapy for them. I'm so proud of the work she has put into this project, and think it is such an AMAZING tool that so MANY of you will need that I will be giving away MULTIPLE COPIES! Stay tuned for details on IG!
Show Notes
Follow Megan on Social!
Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/thatzonalife/
TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@megan_zonalife?lang=en
Grab Megan's Book! - https://amzn.to/3pI9Qs4
Just Desserts - https://features.texasmonthly.com/editorial/just-desserts/
Former Collin Street Bakery Exec Sentenced - https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/field-offices/dallas/news/press-releases/former-collin-street-bakery-executive-and-wife-sentenced
5 Stages of Grief - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_stages_of_grief
Xenu - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenu
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide
Support the Podcast!
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Welcome to DAY 4 of 9 DAYS OF HOLIDAY MAGIC in the month of December! Named after the spirit of the season AND the MLM that was shut down by the FTC in 1974 after being found to be operating as a pyramid scheme. Don't forget to enter the VIXEN Giveaway to win a SIGNED COPY from Lindsay Helm! Check our IG for details! I hope your season is filled with the embodiment of HOLIDAY MAGIC, as we count down to 2022!
Erin Bies spent A LOT of time in Multi Level Marketing, climbing as high as the Top 0.38% of her last company, Pruvit before deciding to pull the plug altogether after battling with her cognitive dissonance over AntiMLM content on her FYP. When she first saw me, she hated me, and that crack I talk about when helping people see MLM for what it is and get out? That's how it started. Over the next few months Erin went from culty MegaHun to educated AntiMLM Advocate, filling the hole in the community as someone finally speaking out about Pruvit, those ketone videos on TikTok, and their WILD Promoters with cult-like followings, who's stans aren't afraid to play dirty. And yes, we talk about HER too.
Show Notes
Follow Erin on Social!
Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/therealbiestmode/?hl=en
TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@biestmodelv?lang=en
YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/c/ErinBies
Pure Romance, LLC v. Lamp et al - https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/4115384/Pure_Romance,_LLC_v_Lamp_et_al
Ward v. Modere, Inc. - https://casetext.com/case/ward-v-modere-inc
Prince v. Ward - https://www.leagle.com/decision/infdco20180205f69
Real Ketones - https://realketones.com/
Pruvit Keto//OS VS Real Ketones - https://www.pandoinfo.com/pruvit-keto-os-vs-real-ketones/
75 Hard and What it is - https://www.healthline.com/health/fitness/75-hard#what-it-is
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide
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Welcome to DAY 3 of 9 DAYS OF HOLIDAY MAGIC in the month of December! Named after the spirit of the season AND the MLM that was shut down by the FTC in 1974 after being found to be operating as a pyramid scheme. Stay Tuned after the show for details on our next giveaway! I hope your season is filled with the embodiment of HOLIDAY MAGIC, as we count down to 2022!
Lindsay Helm reached out to me during Cult Month, and after hearing her story, I needed to have her on the show! She's hilarious, brave and funny - exactly what we love on this show! Lindsay tells us all about her decision to join the LDS Church at 13, and her experiences within her decade long membership. Even the difficult parts are littered with dark humor, a theme Lindsay uses throughout her book as well. And no episode of Life After MLM would be complete without SOME MLM, Lindsay was ALSO A Mary Kay lady during her time in Mormonism! Also, some mini dives in Blessing Looms and BINT.
Show Notes
BBB Scam Alert : Blessing Looms - https://www.bbb.org/article/news-releases/22255-bbb-scam-alert-easy-money-blessing-loom-nope-pyramid-scheme
BINT Scam - https://www.bintscam.com/
FTC v BINT - https://www.ftc.gov/system/files/documents/cases/bint._complaint_file_stamped_copy.pdf
Vixen by Lindsay Helm - https://amzn.to/3DnFP5U
Mormons Tipped Scale in Ban on Gay Marriage - https://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/15/us/politics/15marriage.html
If my Body is a Temple itโs on Fire - https://www.michigandaily.com/statement/if-my-body-is-a-temple-its-on-fire/
Dismantling Mormon Purity Culture - https://religionnews.com/2016/09/27/dismantling-mormon-purity-culture/
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide
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Welcome to DAY 2 of 9 DAYS OF HOLIDAY MAGIC in the month of December! Named after the spirit of the season AND the MLM that was shut down by the FTC in 1974 after being found to be operating as a pyramid scheme. Don't forget to enter our GIVEAWAY to win a SIGNED & DOODLED copy of CULTISH from our friend Amanda Montell! Check our IG for details! I hope your season is filled with the embodiment of HOLIDAY MAGIC, as we count down to 2022!
Jessica and I have been trying to get together ever since our followers couldn't stop tagging us in each others videos to get our attention. IT WORKED YOU GUYS!!! Jess makes some of the funniest, brutally honest ExHun content on social media that I have ever seen. She is unapologetically herself, owns her mistakes and uses them to educate for good. In our chat we discuss the internal struggle of being "at the top" of the pyramid, what it REALLY looks like as you climb the pyramid, and what it REALLY takes to stay there. It might look like being in the 1% is worth all the time and effort, but Jessica's deep inside look at her time in ItWorks! paints quite the opposite picture.
Show Notes
Jessica's YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCiOp5s0qbquFOrKRpIpCwvA
Jessica's TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@thejessicahickson
Jessica's Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/thejessicahickson/
Love Has Won - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_Has_Won
YOU CAN'T SCAM AN EX-SCAMMER, HUN!! (MENTAL HEALTH MLM) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hrzps_jo674&t=0s
The Light at the End of the Pyramid - https://www.facebook.com/groups/251150593734287/
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide
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Welcome to DAY 1 of 9 DAYS OF HOLIDAY MAGIC in the month of December! After toying around with a multitude of inclusive yet topical names, I landed on 9 DAYS Of HOLIDAY MAGIC, named after the spirit of the season AND the MLM that was shut down by the FTC in 1974 after being found to be operating as a pyramid scheme. I hope your season is filled with the embodiment of HOLIDAY MAGIC, as we count down to 2022!
In August 2021, I heard about an MLM that was gaining popularity on social media called Black Oxygen Organics. A group of AntiMLM Advocates joined together to help create content and awareness across all platforms on a mysterious scam selling literal dirt as the cure to literally everything. The Boo Crew was born.
On November 23rd, an email went out to all BOO reps, letting them know that the MLM would be closing it's doors amongst recalls, bad reactions, lawsuits, and a growing social media awareness movement.
Obviously we had to hop on a zoom to chat with those who could! A bit of a warning, we have, at times, 5 very excited women on this chat, and mute was not always utilized, but I did my best! Thanks so much to Savannah Marie, Kat Benson, Jessica James and Amanda McQueen!!!
Savannah
YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtzWWtVVzSX8L8K4EWcqUZg
Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/savannahmariex
Jessica
The Persuasion Pitch - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-persuasion-pitch/id1546523817
Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/jessmuaofficial/
Kat
YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/c/UnlockedNutritionKatBensonRDNLD
Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/dietitiankatbenson
Amanda
YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSm9AzeehCdUJc9wKcnzQTQ
Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/_amanda_mc._
Show Notes
Holiday Magic - https://www.makeupmuseum.org/home/2021/02/holiday-magic-cosmetics.html
Boo Reps Call us "Haters!" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jnrm8xSkhNg
BOO CORPORATE COMPLIANCE CALL *REACTION* - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NayZHdxqUKI
Mr. Garibaldi is a Felon - https://buffalonews.com/news/toronto-area-truck-driver-convicted-in-drug-case/article_4505e051-afb2-5f11-8d66-7605f0b03028.html
BOO is WOO Facebook Group - https://www.facebook.com/groups/321298193015097/
Duped by BOO : Victims of the Bog - https://www.facebook.com/groups/417540309807750
COA Results - https://www.facebook.com/MLMombie/posts/1075404456619942
BOO Clinical Trials Debunked! - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLFmpcMoD8E
BOO Class Action - https://www.wfirm.com/practice_areas/black-oxygen-toxic-supplement-class-action/?fbclid=IwAR3tqvFnV_M7gwLp_2zqryoa6b37lVmILG-dDSAKBZ8UJudzPomUnRnsXUk
My BOO CAL TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa/video/7032467610717506821
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide
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This month we are teaming up with igotout.org, a consortium of cult survivors supporting the #igotout movement of activism, and education, to help shine light on the commercial cults more commonly known as Multi Level Marketing. Throughout the month of November, follow along with us on social media as we share MLM statistics, cult education, survivor stories and ways you can join in on the movement. Visit igotout.org to share your MLM experience and share your #igotout selfie using the hashtags #igotout and #igotoutofanmlm on social media. Freedom of thought is a universal human right.
For our last episode in November for MLM Cult Awareness Month, I knew EXACTLY who I needed to talk to, Laurie Jenks Hale, serial MLMer turned AntiMLM Advocate. Laurie was just 19 years old when she joined her first Multi Level Marketing company. At first the business seemed to be a good fit for her lifestyle as a young Mormon military wife (and veteran!), but no matter how hard Laurie tried, how many companies she joined, or what products she believed in, she could never make it to the top of the pyramid. In 40 years Laurie joined 19 different companies, 29 times and has many stories and experienced insight to share as she takes us down a wild journey of just trying to find a place that feels right, to call home.
Show Notes
Laurie's YouTube -https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCW6sQYZnHAS2XX8m2TE9mDw/featured
Savy's Interview with Laurie! - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIFVyR0Q4dY&t=3844s
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide
Support the Podcast!
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This month we are teaming up with igotout.org, a consortium of cult survivors supporting the #igotout movement of activism, and education, to help shine light on the commercial cults more commonly known as Multi Level Marketing. Throughout the month of November, follow along with us on social media as we share MLM statistics, cult education, survivor stories and ways you can join in on the movement. Visit igotout.org to share your MLM experience and share your #igotout selfie using the hashtags #igotout and #igotoutofanmlm on social media. Freedom of thought is a universal human right.
Brian reached out to me and sent me a copy of Merchants of Deception after an Amway episode, and I asked him if he would be interested in sharing his story on the show. Although MLM's generally go after women, around 26% of men are also victims, so sharing the ways they are targeted and indoctrinated is just as important. Brian was worried his story wasn't sensational enough to make an impact, but I disagree! The tactics and practices are the same today as they were 25 years ago!
Show Notes
Merchants of Deception -https://archive.org/details/MerchantsOfDeception
Dr. Amen - https://www.amenclinics.com/
Pyramid Scheme Bar IG - https://www.instagram.com/pyramidschemegr/
AntiMLM Reddit - https://www.reddit.com/r/antiMLM/
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide
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This month we are teaming up with igotout.org, a consortium of cult survivors supporting the #igotout movement of activism, and education, to help shine light on the commercial cults more commonly known as Multi Level Marketing. Throughout the month of November, follow along with us on social media as we share MLM statistics, cult education, survivor stories and ways you can join in on the movement. Visit igotout.org to share your MLM experience and share your #igotout selfie using the hashtags #igotout and #igotoutofanmlm on social media. Freedom of thought is a universal human right.
When I first read Elizabeth's email to me, I knew I had to talk to her for our Cult Education Month. After watching LuLaRich, and diving into the Anti MLM Movement, Elizabeth left her MLM of 3 years, and publicly denounced them on her Facebook page. We talk about the culty ways MLM crept into her life, grooming her from a sick college student, to a young newlywed, the indoctrination into the oily life, and the hoops she jumped through in the name of blind faith. We also discuss the cognitive dissonance Elizabeth felt between what Young Living told her, and what she found out.
Show Notes
Plant Therapy Essential Oils - https://www.planttherapy.com/
Life After MLM - Liz Arias - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-21-liz-arias-part-1/id1553784236?i=1000517628567
Elizabeth's Facebook post about leaving Young Living - https://www.facebook.com/elizabeth.austin.3781/posts/3144416499121352
A Dangerous Mind: Gary Young - http://gary-young-fraud.blogspot.com/2017/01/a-dangerous-mind-gary-young.html
A Little Bit Culty!! - https://www.alittlebitculty.com/
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide
Support the Podcast!
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This month we are teaming up with igotout.org, a consortium of cult survivors supporting the #igotout movement of activism, and education, to help shine light on the commercial cults more commonly known as Multi Level Marketing. Throughout the month of November, follow along with us on social media as we share MLM statistics, cult education, survivor stories and ways you can join in on the movement. Visit igotout.org to share your MLM experience and share your #igotout selfie using the hashtags #igotout and #igotoutofanmlm on social media. Freedom of thought is a universal human right.
*The stories shared in LuLaBitch are our own personal experiences, opinions and allegations of our time in the cult LuLaRoe. Some accounts may be triggering. Please listen at your own discretion. This is meant as a companion series to the Amazon Docuseries, LuLaRich, and is in no way affiliated with the film.*
I had never met or spoken to Lauren prior to LuLaRich, but I felt so connected to her while watching the documentary that I knew I needed to reach out and say hi. Lauren and I had several long chats over the course of a couple days, and learned a lot about each other. I had been struggling to find a good spot for this chat in my calendar when we decided to make November Cult Month, I knew INSTANTLY where she belonged. As we walk down LuLaRoe memory lane, Lauren let's me know about another high demand group she found herself involved with when she was in as a teen; Cascade School, a "Toubled Teen Industry" cult, where she was kidnapped in the middle of the night, and whisked off to the top of a literal mountain.
Show Notes
๏ปฟWatch LuLaRich on Amazon Prime Video! - https://amzn.to/3k68Axs
The Troubled Teen Industry is a Cult - https://www.troubledteenindustry.net/modern-cults
Cascade School was a Cult - https://www.reddit.com/r/troubledteens/comments/j5ocav/cascade_school_was_a_cult/
Survivor, CEDU & Ascent & Cascade & Provo Canyon School 1997-1999 - https://www.survivorsbreakingsilence.com/stories/survivor-cedu-amp-ascent-amp-cascade-amp-provo-canyon-school
Survivors Breaking Silence - https://www.survivorsbreakingsilence.com/
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide
Support the Podcast!
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This month we are teaming up with igotout.org, a consortium of cult survivors supporting the #igotout movement of activism, and education, to help shine light on the commercial cults more commonly known as Multi Level Marketing. Throughout the month of November, follow along with us on social media as we share MLM statistics, cult education, survivor stories and ways you can join in on the movement. Visit igotout.org to share your MLM experience and share your #igotout selfie using the hashtags #igotout and #igotoutofanmlm on social media. Freedom of thought is a universal human right.
*This episode features details of a child's death, and could be triggering for some. Please use discretion when listening.*
I've been meaning to chat with Amway survivor turned Anti MLM Warrior, Molly Hale since we first connected in the LuLaRich AMA Clubhouse forum! After being in for over 6 years, Molly finally saw the light, and left, and boy does she have A LOT to say about it. We chat about her time in Amway, their insidious ties to literally everything, Ponzinomics, cult tactics, cognitive dissonance, and even share the crazy encounter that happened on stage the night we met. Somehow she turns the interview around on me, and we talk about what we want the future of the Anti MLM Movement to look like and where we think it's headed.
Show Notes
Molly's Social Media Strategy Biz - https://www.mollyhale.co/
Follow Molly on TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@mollyrhale
Follow Molly on IG - https://www.instagram.com/mollyrhale
Follow Molly on Twitter - https://twitter.com/Mollyrhale
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide
Support the Podcast!
Buy me a Taco and leave me a note! ๐ฎ๐ - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevins
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Follow us on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/
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Find me on CLUBHOUSE at @therealrobertablevins
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This month we are teaming up with igotout.org, a consortium of cult survivors supporting the #igotout movement of activism, and education, to help shine light on the commercial cults more commonly known as Multi Level Marketing. Throughout the month of November, follow along with us on social media as we share MLM statistics, cult education, survivor stories and ways you can join in on the movement. Visit igotout.org to share your MLM experience and share your #igotout selfie using the hashtags #igotout and #igotoutofanmlm on social media. Freedom of thought is a universal human right.
After devouring Cultish on the flight to and from New York, I couldn't wait to talk to the author, Amanda Montell, self proclaimed word nerd and language scholar. I mean, her book had an entire chapter titled "Do You Wanna Be a #BossBabe?". Amanda helps me kick off MLM Cult Month by sharing personal cult connections, breaking down culty screenshots and teaching you about the red flags you can not only see, but can also hear. Plus, she educates us on all the language and terms we will be learning about all month.
Show Notes
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3wkPVCr
Thought Terminating Cliches - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thought-terminating_clich%C3%A9
Synanon - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synanon
Sounds Like A Cult Pod - https://www.soundslikeacult.com/
My episode on Sounds Like a Cult - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-cult-of-lularoe/id1566917047?i=1000539054927
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide
Support the Podcast!
Buy me a Taco and leave me a note! ๐ฎ๐ - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevins
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*The stories in this episode contain sensitive subject matter, including details of a murders, paranormal experiences, and abuse of children. Please use your own discretion when listening.*
Happy Halloween Huns!
For our Halloween Episode we hang out with Miri Nadler, owner of 10Blooms Cakes, as she tells us the story of the time her mom was involved deep with a transient Tupperware lady with 5 kids, and a sinister murder plot. But first, we start off with some scammer Micro History as we learn the story of John R Brinkley, "The Goat Gland Doctor", and his rise and fall. Not to be outdone by wild stories, I add my own hometown murder and Miri and I swap personal stories as we talk about Charlie Manson, confederate ghosts, and cults. It's really the Halloween episode we all deserve.
Show Notes
10Bloom Cakes - https://www.instagram.com/10bloomcakes/
Miri on TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@10bloomcakes
John R Brinkley - https://www.kshs.org/kansapedia/john-r-brinkley/11988
KFKB Radio - https://www.kshs.org/kansapedia/kfkb/18621
Morris Fishbein - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morris_Fishbein
The Adventures of Pete & Pete - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Adventures_of_Pete_%26_Pete
Nuts! The Film - http://www.nutsthefilm.com/
Forensic Linguistics - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forensic_linguistics
My Hometown Murder - https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1991-12-27-me-780-story.html
Cultish: The Language of Fanaticism - https://amzn.to/3bmOBFN
Krishna Venta - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krishna_Venta
Life After MLM ; The Group - https://www.facebook.com/groups/266601078162081
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide
Support the Podcast!
Buy me a Taco and leave me a note! ๐ฎ๐ - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevins
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A special Halloween Bonus Episode, where MLM and True Crime collide! Here are some of the more well known MLM Murder cases, Travis Alexander, Shannan Watts and Alexis Sharkey, plus mini dives into the facts of the cases and what happened afterward.
Show Notes
The Murder of Travis Alexander - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Travis_Alexander
LegalShield IDS - https://www.legalshield.com/income-disclosure
The Murders of the Watts Family - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watts_family_murders
Le-Vel IDS - https://le-vel.com/Terms/Disclosure
Le-Vel, Thrive, and the Watts Family - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4nov0PHFUg
The Murder of Alexis Sharkey - https://www.reddit.com/r/AlexisSharkey/comments/k4nxf0/alexis_sharkey_found_dead_10_things_to_know_about/
Monat IDS - https://monatglobal.com/income-disclosure-statement/
Alexis Sharkey's IG - https://www.instagram.com/alexissharkey/
Man wanted for killing his influencer wife found dead in Florida, officials say - https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tom-sharkey-alexis-sharkey-husband-dead-gunshot-wound-florida/
Life After MLM ; The Group - https://www.facebook.com/groups/266601078162081
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide
Support the Podcast!
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Content warning : Some of the stories in this episode deal with triggering topics, including mental health, PTSD, suicide and more. Each story that has these topics, has a small warning at the beginning, so you may skip around as needed.
I put out a call to action this month on social media, asking for personal MLM Horror stories and YOU RESPONDED!!! You sent in emails, sent me links to stories, tagged me in posts and even sat down for some mini chats! Enjoy this megasode of lots of MLM Horror Stories from around the internet! This is also the first time we have done an episode like this, so if you enjoy these Multi Story Minisodes, let me know and we can create more! The holidays are coming...
Show Notes
Paige - https://www.tiktok.com/@pretty_pettyx
Advocare vs FTC - https://www.consumer.ftc.gov/blog/2019/10/ftc-advocare-business-model-was-pyramid-scheme
Reddit Stories -
https://www.reddit.com/r/antiMLM/comments/8kpzpf/most_bizarre_mlm_pitch/
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/5xe68p/what_are_your_mlm_multilevel_marketing_horror/
https://www.reddit.com/r/antiMLM/comments/99lqpa/my_worst_mlm_story/
https://www.reddit.com/r/antiMLM/comments/q8phek/has_anyone_else_been_datefished_by_someone_trying/
HuffPost Stories -
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/mlm-horror-stories_l_5d952097e4b0da7f66211f35
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
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This episode contains graphic descriptions of horrific acts, including being drugged, kidnapped, strangled and violent sexual assault. For those who have trouble with these topics, this episode may be triggering. If you wish to listen to this episode and skip the graphic retelling of the event, the timestamps below can help you navigate around that section so you can enjoy the remaining sections of the episode. Please listen at your own discretion.
Lori was just looking to have fun and learn how to do makeup, when she Joined LimeLight as a part time side hustle to her corporate nursing job. She quickly started making waves with her non traditional makeup looks, and getting the attention of several people. including a dangerous man who became obsessed with her. While LimeLight encouraged Lori to keep everything open and public to attract new customers and teammates, it gave her stalker all access to her every move and allowed him the opportunity to find her in real life and play out his toxic fixation. Lori takes us through her harrowing journey, and offers her unique advice to those who have to be in the public eye, but want to keep an air of anonymity for their own safety.
CONTENT WARNING TIMESTAMPS : 37:20 - 103:58
Show Notes
The Dream Podcast -https://www.stitcher.com/show/the-dream
Monkey Balls - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maclura_pomifera
One Drop Wonder - https://www.limelifebyalcone.com/corporphan/product/llodw
Kubaton - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kubotan
YubiKey - https://amzn.to/3mMQcK3
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
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*This episode is intended for 18+, and contains discussions on disordered eating, compromising situations and mentions toxic ideas on forgiving sexual trauma, in stories as retold by the guest. Please use discretion when listening to this episode if these topics may be triggering to you.*
In 2019 "Ariel" joined Optavia as a customer to help her maintain her weight as she weaned herself off cigarettes at 25 years old. Admittedly a bad idea in hindsight, she takes us down a wild ride of what life inside this MLM cult of health and wellness looked like, expensive disordered eating, dangerous caloric deficits, trauma and toxic diet culture. The deeper she got into Optavia, the worse her disordered eating became, counting calories, then binging, punishing herself with extra exercise, and even causing concern to strangers on the internet. "Ariel"'s openness to being so loyal to the cult and "business" lead to finding herself in a scary situation she wasn't sure how to get out of. But it wasn't until the Covid Pandemic and the aftereffects opened her eyes to what she was really involved with.
Show Notes
Dr. A and The System - https://www.habitsofhealth.com/introducing-the-system/#:~:text=Dr.%20A%20is,at%20Grandview%20Hospital.
The Medifast Diet - https://www.webmd.com/diet/a-z/medifast-diet
Abbey Sharp - https://www.abbeyskitchen.com/
Optavia Fueling Hacks - https://www.pinterest.com/tvs329/optavia-fueling-hacks/
Optavia Snacks - https://answers.optavia.com/help/optimal-weight-5-1-plan-what-snacks-can-i-have
Kat Benson RDN - https://www.tiktok.com/@katbensonrdn
Matt VanDerLaar - https://www.tiktok.com/@mattlaarfit
Sabrina McMullen - https://www.tiktok.com/@beefcake_brina
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
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John was never in an MLM, but both of his parents were, as he juggled living between their homes. From an MLM hobbyist mother, who ran the gamut from Avon to Tastefully Simple, to John's deeply entrenched Herbalife peddling father, MLM was all around him growing up. I knew getting the perspective of the victims we don't think about, and the side effects of dragging children through the toxic complex of MLM would produce some eye opening discussions. Our conversation started off light but ended up getting pretty deep into some topics I didn't expect, like food poverty, the long lasting effects of growing up in hustle culture, and the buried feelings John has about what he was subjected to as a minor, often against his own will.
Show Notes
Herbalife Faces a Fresh Legal Hurdle - https://www.barrons.com/articles/herbalife-faces-fresh-legal-hurdle-51601059300
LuLaRoe VICE Documentary - https://youtu.be/L6eujSJ0-RU
John Oliver Last Week Tonight - JD Ridinger "Dimaryp" - https://youtu.be/s6MwGeOm8iI?t=1548
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
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*The stories shared in LuLaBitch are our own personal experiences, opinions and allegations of our time in the cult LuLaRoe. Some accounts may be triggering. Please listen at your own discretion. This is meant as a companion series to the Amazon Docuseries, LuLaRich, and is in no way affiliated with the film.*
We continue Maelen's story after the disaster of Vision 2017 broke the straw, and her dealing with leaving LuLaRoe and the 100% Buy Back cancelation nightmare. We discuss the culture in LuLaRoe, and what it was like being outside the target demographic, the tokenism, two faced lies and how culty it really was. Even as a small fish, who put her everything into it, she just couldn't make it work for her despite every attempt at making Mark's rotten lemons into lemonade. After watching LuLaRich, Maelen just couldn't unsee the truth anymore and needed to share her experience in the cult with us.
Show Notes
Watch LuLaRich on Amazon Prime Video! - https://amzn.to/3k68Axs
Did Agnes & Dora Close? - https://www.sassydirect.com/articles/did-agnes-and-dora-close
Tokenism - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokenism
The BITE Model by Dr. Steven Hassan - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
The Cult of Trump by Dr. Steven Hassan - https://amzn.to/3zSKD1h
Leah Remini: Scientology and the Aftermath - https://www.aetv.com/shows/leah-remini-scientology-and-the-aftermath
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
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*The stories shared in LuLaBitch are our own personal experiences, opinions and allegations of our time in the cult LuLaRoe. Some accounts may be triggering. Please listen at your own discretion. This is meant as a companion series to the Amazon Docuseries, LuLaRich, and is in no way affiliated with the film.*
Maelen reached out to me after watching LuLaRich, and knew she needed to get some things off her chest about her time in LuLaRoe and the processing of those emotions. She shares her journey with me, starting with an out of state Inspire tour where she was one of a thousand women onboarded in one day, and what it was like to be a child free, single woman in an MLM obsessed with marriage and family. Maelen has A LOT to say, and I'm so happy to give her a platform to say it on. This is part 1.
Show Notes
Watch LuLaRich on Amazon Prime Video! - https://amzn.to/3k68Axs
Dot Dot Smile - https://symonsayssmile.com/dotdotsmile-lularoe/
LuLaSuits Explained - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa/video/7005079001626578182
The BITE Model by Dr. Steven Hassan - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
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*In this episode of Life After MLM, we talk about the MLM Pure Romance, which includes adult themes and situations. This episode is recommended for 18+ and if you are sensitive to this subject matter, please use your own discretion.*
"Michelle" was ride or die with Pure Romance for almost 19 years, after a messy divorce left her a single mom with a hungry teenage son. Although admittedly shy, the experience opened her up and she found she was a natural at recruiting, growing herself an impressively large team. But "Michelle" started to see the rot of Pure Romance from the inside, and what it really took to stay at the top. It wasn't until a new boyfriend helped her take a hard look at her finances that she woke up from her nearly 2 decade long Kool-Aid fueled haze.
Show Notes
"Ruth: Part 1 - https://traffic.megaphone.fm/LAV9466909991.mp3?updated=1632410984
"Ruth" Part 2- https://traffic.megaphone.fm/LAV4489127572.mp3?updated=1632410983
Pure Romance IDS - https://www.pureromance.com/pws/homeoffice/tabs/income-disclosure
Pure Romance, LLC Acquires Slumber Parties - https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/pure-romance-llc-acquires-slumber-parties-240825911.html
BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
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*The stories shared in LuLaBitch are our own personal experiences, opinions and allegations of our time in the cult LuLaRoe. Some accounts may be triggering. Please listen at your own discretion. This is meant as a companion series to the Amazon Docuseries, LuLaRich, and is in no way affiliated with the film.*
This episode is a new idea I had, and if we like it, I'd love to continue with other MLMs and topics! I love the audience participation part! The other day I was sent a video of DeAnne saying that LuLaRich was just 4 consultants complaining and not to base their opinions of LuLaRoe on 4 consultants experiences. So I put out a call to action and asked people to send in some of their experiences with LuLaRoe, because I knew there was A LOT more than 4. I was so excited by the response and will do more as long as you send me those messages! Enjoy!
Show Notes
Watch LuLaRich on Amazon Prime Video! - https://amzn.to/3k68Axs
Dr. Steven Hassans's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
GoT S07E07 Petyr Baelish "Assume the Worst" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_OmC3dk-O8
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide
Support the Podcast!
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*The stories shared in LuLaBitch are our own personal experiences, opinions and allegations of our time in the cult LuLaRoe. Some accounts may be triggering. Please listen at your own discretion. This is meant as a companion series to the Amazon Docuseries, LuLaRich, and is in no way affiliated with the film.*
We finish up Part 2 as Becca and I discuss some of the more burning questions in LuLaRich, like that odd marriage and why Mark and DeAnne think it's so funny. Plus some of the deepest secrets that LuLaRich didn't mention, and what we think about what's to come and the future of LuLaRoe. Plus Becca answers my rapid fire questions and it leads to even more bananery.
Show Notes
Watch LuLaRich on Amazon Prime Video! - https://amzn.to/3k68Axs
LuLaRoe: The REAL Untold Story. (Anti-MLM) (Pt.1) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMp7iIAiWQU
LuLaRoe: The REAL Untold Story. (Anti-MLM) (Pt. 2) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSUQU-1FY6Q
Behind the Bastards: Part One: John Ronald Brown: The Worst Surgeon Ever - https://www.iheart.com/podcast/105-behind-the-bastards-29236323/episode/part-one-john-ronald-brown-the-55594943/
Behind the Bastards: Part Two: John Ronald Brown: The Worst Surgeon Ever - https://www.iheart.com/podcast/105-behind-the-bastards-29236323/episode/part-two-john-ronald-brown-the-55806281/
Becca's Washi Tape Store! https://www.prettypackagestape.com/
Washi Tape: 101+ Ideas for Paper Crafts, Book Arts, Fashion, Decorating, Entertaining, and Party Fun! - https://amzn.to/3u2opsc
Fun With Washi!: 35 Ways to Instantly Refresh Your Home, Accessories, and Packages with Washi Tape - https://amzn.to/39qZZzf
Current LuLaRoe Prints - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa/video/6989734605972655366
LuLaRich Critics - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa/video/7009420382973283589
Becca's SLMLMBOK Interview! - https://soundslikemlm.libsyn.com/lularoes-bless-of-death-the-end-of-an-alleged-criminal-empire
GoT S07E07 Petyr Baelish "Assume the Worst" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_OmC3dk-O8
Dr. Steven Hassans's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide
Support the Podcast!
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*The stories shared in LuLaBitch are our own personal experiences, opinions and allegations of our time in the cult LuLaRoe. Some accounts may be triggering. Please listen at your own discretion. This is meant as a companion series to the Amazon Docuseries, LuLaRich, and is in no way affiliated with the film.*
In the world of LuLaRoe tea, Becca dominates the space, and while she was never a rep, LuLaRoe still found it's way in front of her curious eyes. From the credit card breaches and tax issues, to the juicy MyDyer case, if LuLaRoe has been sued, Becca knows about it and has snarky commentary to accompany it. I'm so glad that we finally found the time to sit down and chat, because this episode has been in the works since I started this podcast! This is part 1, and I am EXHAUSTED so you'll have to wait for part 2 until later!
Show Notes
Watch LuLaRich on Amazon Prime Video! - https://amzn.to/3k68Axs
Popular Fashion Line LuLaRoe Sued Over Sales Tax Charges - https://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyphillipserb/2017/02/27/popular-fashion-line-lularoe-sued-for-overcharging-customers-sales-tax/?sh=b6e31a6176db
LuLaRoe Data Breach - https://lularoefail.com/2017/11/20/new-data-breach-unaddressed-lularoe/
Yo Gabba Gabba - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yo_Gabba_Gabba!
The Aquabats - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Aquabats
The Jets - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jets_(Minnesota_band)
Brothers give Sammy's shake shop new name, spin - https://www.ksl.com/article/33286448/brothers-give-sammys-shake-shop-new-name-spin
Dont F**k with Cats - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_F**k_with_Cats:_Hunting_an_Internet_Killer
Triangle Lawsuit - https://www.reddit.com/r/LuLaNo/comments/9ckzsv/oh_shocker_llrs_getting_sued_again_for_stealing/
LuLaRoe Has Consumers Upset Over Leggings They Consider Racist - https://www.inquisitr.com/4036112/lularoe-has-consumers-upset-over-leggings-they-consider-racist/
Judge finally orders LLR warehouse supervisor to give a deposition in sexual harassment lawsuit after dodging it for a YEAR -https://www.reddit.com/r/DefectiveDetectives/comments/ant5j2/judge_finally_orders_llr_warehouse_supervisor_to/
Dr. Steven Hassans's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide
Support the Podcast!
Buy me a Taco and leave me a note! ๐ฎ๐ - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevins
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*The stories shared in LuLaBitch are our own personal experiences, opinions and allegations of our time in the cult LuLaRoe. Some accounts may be triggering. Please listen at your own discretion. This is meant as a companion series to the Amazon Docuseries, LuLaRich, and is in no way affiliated with the film.*
As we finish up our list of LuLaGrievances, "Melissa" and I finally make it to the NDSS scandal, explaining what happened with the top selling consultants who mocked special needs. Listening to how LuLaRoe spun this disaster into their favor is the word salad you didn't know you needed. We also talk about our own actions in LuLaRoe, admitting to things we had deep buried and forgot about, and shed light on the mindset we were in when we made the decisions we did. My chat with "Melissa" was raw, fun, hilarious and authentic, just like her.
Show Notes
Watch LuLaRich on Amazon Prime Video! - https://amzn.to/3k68Axs
Consultants: LuLaRoe's 'Noir' capsule collection is an epic failure - https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/allthemoms/news/2017/11/08/lularoe-noir-all-black-clothing-bad-press/34919179/
People Are Horrified With LuLaRoe For Standing By A Retailer Who Mocked Down Syndrome - https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/stephaniemcneal/lularoe-ndss
NDSS TikTok 1 - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa/video/6975564951985392902
NDSS TikTok 2 - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa/video/6975566407354338566
NDSS TikTok 3 - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa/video/6975567610482216197
NDSS TikTok 4 - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa/video/6975568759889153285
NDSS TikTok 5 - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa/video/6975571555296218373
Dr. Steven Hassans's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide
Support the Podcast!
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*The stories shared in LuLaBitch are our own personal experiences, opinions and allegations of our time in the cult LuLaRoe. Some accounts may be triggering. Please listen at your own discretion. This is meant as a companion series to the Amazon Docuseries, LuLaRich, and is in no way affiliated with the film.*
I met "Melissa" before our time in LuLaRoe, when we were both young moms at a local Chick-Fil-A storytime group. We instantly hit it off, and kept in touch as her husband's military career took them cross country. After LuLaRich came out, "Melissa" reached out and told me she wanted to tell me her story as a "small fish" in LuLaRoe. So many of her experiences mirrored mine, and I know so many more former retailers will connect with her dry humor and "WTF"ery in the ups and downs on her LuLaJourney. This is Part 1.
Show Notes
Watch LuLaRich on Amazon Prime Video! - https://amzn.to/3k68Axs
Leaders Eat Last by Simon Sinek - https://amzn.to/2XykQyc
Yo Gabba Gabba! - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yo_Gabba_Gabba!
Nicolae Ceauศescu - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolae_Ceau%C8%99escu
The Turdma - https://www.reddit.com/r/antiMLM/comments/9c8kw2/for_anyone_who_has_never_seen_it_i_present_to_you/
Small Town Murder - https://shutupandgivememurder.com/
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide
Support the Podcast!
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*We had a few technical difficulties with the mic and some fuzzy reverb in a few spots. We did clear it up as much as we could when recording, and again as I edited it for the podcast. Just a heads up!*
From the moment I recorded episodes 17 & 18, Russ has been telling me to watch The Slave Circle and reach out to the filmmaker, Alex Semchuck. He thought we would get along and have a lot to talk about, and boy was he right. Alex not only made the film about Smart Circle, he also worked for the company, an MLM you might not see coming. We chat about the many different heads of this hydra, where you might encounter Smart Circle, and what it can look like when you do. Alex and I share some of the biggest red flags for avoiding these scams when navigating online job listings, or even your local grocery store.
Show Notes
The Slave Circle - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyCRzBt7GuY
Alex's YouTube Channel : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCv12xKxM_R-_tzMbfopzsUw
Devil Corp - https://thedevilcorp.wordpress.com/
Juicy Rhino - https://www.instagram.com/juicyrhino/?hl=en
Glassdoor - https://www.glassdoor.com/index.htm
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide
Support the Podcast!
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*The stories shared in LuLaBitch are our own personal experiences, opinions and allegations of our time in the cult LuLaRoe. Some accounts may be triggering. Please listen at your own discretion. This is meant as a companion series to the Amazon Docuseries, LuLaRich, and is in no way affiliated with the film.*
This episode mentions "Alexa" several times, just in case you're listening near one. Also, Paul had a stroke in November 2020, please be mindful that he is still recovering.
I get right to the nitty gritty because I know Paul has the story I need to hear; The Beta Testing Group. I remember being out of LuLaRoe on the backside of this, watching this scam unfold and piecing it together with Becca and the Defective Detectives, so I wanted confirmation! But, it's not as easy as that. As we go down the rabbit hole to find answers, Tiffany shares some dirt on how speaking up go them into trouble, and the culty way they had to beg for another chance. Plus, Paul NEVER misses a chance to spill Art, Patrick or Mark tea.
Show Notes
Watch LuLaRich on Amazon Prime Video! - https://amzn.to/3k68Axs
Shop with the Ivanovsky's - https://emmalousboutique.com/
Follow Tiffany on TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@emmalousboutique
The GREATEST Mark quote of ALL TIME - https://www.reddit.com/r/DefectiveDetectives/comments/amjci0/inspired_by_lularoe_look_guys_i_am_not_going_to/
Justin Bieber's LONG shirts - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2pmbR0B7TE
LuLaRoe Patrick - https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c5/d9/db/c5d9dbf596764c617f1e0ee73462eb83.jpg
Mark Stidham is Buy $5M in Autos - https://lularoefail.com/2017/11/07/lularoe-mark-stidham-is-buying-5-million-in-autos/
BETA TESTING MEGA THREAD SS DUMP - https://www.facebook.com/448202705304465/posts/beta-testing-mega-thread-ss-dumpdo-you-wanna-buy-a-beta-box-or-maybe-all-the-thi/1126711997453529/
Dr. Steven Hassans's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide
Support the Podcast!
Buy me a Taco and leave me a note! ๐ฎ๐ - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevins
Follow me on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa & https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa2.0
Follow us on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/
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*The stories shared in LuLaBitch are our own personal experiences, opinions and allegations of our time in the cult LuLaRoe. Some accounts may be triggering. Please listen at your own discretion. This is meant as a companion series to the Amazon Docuseries, LuLaRich, and is in no way affiliated with the film.*
Paul had a stroke in November 2020, please be mindful that he is still recovering.
Paul and Tiffany first heard of LuLaRoe shortly after a tragic loss in their family. After receiving Valentine's Day leggings as a gift, Tiffany was fascinated by the idea and joined as a side income to her already popular websites and businesses. Before long they were out selling everyone in the company, and had 20% of the Top 100 sellers in their downline. In this episode we dispel some rumors, talk "special perks" and what it REALLY took to get them, and Paul shares his love of LuLaRoe's very own Man in Black, their former head designer Patrick. This is part 1.
Show Notes
Watch LuLaRich on Amazon Prime Video! - https://amzn.to/3k68Axs
Shop with the Ivanovsky's - https://emmalousboutique.com/
Follow Tiffany on TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@emmalousboutique
Paul & Tiffany's Extreme Couponing Episode - https://www.tlc.com/tv-shows/extreme-couponing/full-episodes/jaime-and-tiffany
LuLaRoe Retains Social Media Entrepreneur Oliver Luckett to Advance Company's Social Retail Brand and Business Strategy - https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/lularoe-retains-social-media-entrepreneur-oliver-luckett-to-advance-companys-social-retail-brand-and-business-strategy-300516369.html
One of LuLaRoeโs most iconic executives has suddenly left as some ex-sellers claim the company owes them thousands of dollars in refunds - https://www.businessinsider.com/lularoes-patrick-winget-exits-company-amid-refund-complaints-2018-10
Dr. Steven Hassans's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide
Support the Podcast!
Buy me a Taco and leave me a note! ๐ฎ๐ - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevins
Follow me on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa & https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa2.0
Follow us on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/
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*The stories shared in LuLaBitch are our own personal experiences, opinions and allegations of our time in the cult LuLaRoe. Some accounts may be triggering. Please listen at your own discretion. This is meant as a companion series to the Amazon Docuseries, LuLaRich, and is in no way affiliated with the film.*
Sheri joined LuLaRoe at the time it was just starting take off. She's been holding in her story for the last 3 years, and recently found the strength to spill it all on the show. Sheri takes us down a rocky, red flag laden path, where she admittedly ignored all the signs, down unexpected twists and turns of When Boss Babes Attack, to finding herself in the middle of a hacking allegation with "Bully Bill", LuLaRoe's infamous lawyer. She even spills quite a bit of tea on the leader who told people to "sell their breast milk". Throughout her retelling of her time inside LuLaRoe, Sheri talks about the after effects of leaving, the PTSD, the shame and pain you feel as you come to the realization that you were a victim AND a predator.
Show Notes
Watch LuLaRich on Amazon Prime Video! - https://amzn.to/3k68Axs
LuLaRoe allegedly pressured saleswomen to sell their breast milk so they could buy more inventory - https://hellogiggles.com/news/lularoe-saleswomen-sell-breast-milk-inventory/
Doritos - https://twitter.com/amniha/status/913051279966064640
LuLaSuits - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa/video/7005079001626578182
Leah Remini: Scientology and the Aftermath - https://www.aetv.com/shows/leah-remini-scientology-and-the-aftermath
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide
Support the Podcast!
Buy me a Taco and leave me a note! ๐ฎ๐ - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevins
Follow me on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa & https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa2.0
Follow us on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/
Like us on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast
Find me on CLUBHOUSE at @therealrobertablevins
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Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
*The stories shared in LuLaBitch are our own personal experiences, opinions and allegations of our time in the cult LuLaRoe. Some accounts may be triggering. Please listen at your own discretion. This is meant as a companion series to the Amazon Docuseries, LuLaRich, and is in no way affiliated with the film.*
This interview takes place while LaShae was at the salon, and some background noise was unavoidable. Also, Shae's mic has some sound issues for a bit, but it does even out and fix itself. Adjust your volume accordingly.
When Blye and Cori reached out to me, asking for Home Office employees, LaShae was the first name out of my mouth. Her interview was cut short in the Vice Documentary, and I wanted her to be able to tell her whole story with Amazon. As the "LuLaRoe Fairy Godmother" LaShae was witness to A LOT of shenanigans of the Bradham Clan, the good, bad and ugly. ALLEGEDLY. Shae spills A LOT of tea, and confirms a lot of rumors. We chat about the infamous sock monkey leggings, Home Office's "Zen Room", a hard drive LaShae kept everything she ever did on and Beyonce.
Show Notes
Watch LuLaRich on Amazon Prime Video! - https://amzn.to/3k68Axs
Follow Shae on Social!
https://www.tiktok.com/@lashaekimbrough
https://www.instagram.com/lashae_kimbrough
Sock Monkey Leggings - https://twitter.com/bertalikewhoa/status/1438042363226587137
LuLaRoe Has Consumers Upset Over Leggings They Consider Racist https://www.inquisitr.com/4036112/lularoe-has-consumers-upset-over-leggings-they-consider-racist/
Top Consultant tells Deaf customer to "turn up your volume" - https://www.reddit.com/r/lularoe/comments/7ig454/live_sales/
LuLaRoe Seller Discriminates Against Deaf Customer https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=754059321453134
The Mission Inn's Sunday Brunch - https://www.missioninn.com/dining/sunday-brunch
Chocolate Caramel-Covered Apples -https://www.harryanddavid.com/h/fruit-gift/chocolate-covered-fruit/29491
Omni Hotels - https://www.omnihotels.com/
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide
Support the Podcast!
Buy me a Taco and leave me a note! ๐ฎ๐ - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevins
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*The stories shared in LuLaBitch are our own personal experiences, opinions and allegations of our time in the cult LuLaRoe. Some accounts may be triggering. Please listen at your own discretion. This is meant as a companion series to the Amazon Docuseries, LuLaRich, and is in no way affiliated with the film.*
Katie and I continue our walk down LuLaRoe Memory Lane, discussing Mark and DeAnne's shady intentions, and our feelings on celebrities who use their influence to scam their fans. In her post LLR life, Katie is a professional medium and made some predictions for me back in the summer of 2020! She also shares her predictions for the release and we discuss the possible aftermath of LuLaRich. Somehow Katie turns this around and interviews me as well, with a couple comedic tangents along the way! Laughter truly is the best medicine for shared trauma.
Show Notes
Watch LuLaRich on Amazon Prime Video! - https://amzn.to/3k68Axs
Rachel Hollis shades the MLM community in her newest book and they arenโt happy about. - https://www.reddit.com/r/antiMLM/comments/jhp35i/rachel_hollis_shades_the_mlm_community_in_her/
Tarot Card Meanings - https://www.biddytarot.com/tarot-card-meanings/
Coolina Knives - https://coolinastore.com/collections/knives
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide
Support the Podcast!
Buy me a Taco and leave me a note! ๐ฎ๐ - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevins
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*The stories shared in LuLaBitch are our own personal experiences, opinions and allegations of our time in the cult LuLaRoe. Some accounts may be triggering. Please listen at your own discretion. This is meant as a companion series to the Amazon Docuseries, LuLaRich, and is in no way affiliated with the film.*
Katie S. joined LuLaRoe in the Spring of 2017, and spent over 3 months waiting in the onboarding queue. Though Katie is not featured in LuLaRich, her story would have fit perfectly in the series. We chat about our mirrored experiences in LuLaRoe during our time under the same Mentor, the mess that was Vision 2017 and the ADA issues, the mysterious hashtag "#becauseoflularoe", being stacked, manipulated launches, defective product, and how much she got for selling her team, and walking away. We also talk about the issues that arise when you unknowingly bring people you love into a scam. This is Part 1.
Show Notes
Watch LuLaRich on Amazon Prime Video! - https://amzn.to/3k68Axs
The Rabidly-Followed Leggings Brand You Can Only Buy on Facebook - https://www.racked.com/2016/6/16/11898266/lularoe-leggings-facebook-multi-level-marketing
LuLaRoe has turned your Facebook friends into a leggings sales force - https://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-tn-tech-multilevel-marketing-20171211-story.html
Mark's FAMOUS Speech - 17:30 "You're stale"; 20:07 "Wrestle with the pigs" - https://lularoefail.com/2018/02/12/lularoe-mark-stidham-youre-stale-wrestling-pigs-webinar-04182017/
Deanne singing and driving - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1xVEDtaK7w
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide
Support the Podcast!
Buy me a Taco and leave me a note! ๐ฎ๐ - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevins
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*The stories shared in LuLaBitch are our own personal experiences, opinions and allegations of our time in the cult LuLaRoe. Some accounts may be triggering. Please listen at your own discretion. This is meant as a companion series to the Amazon Docuseries, LuLaRich, and is in no way affiliated with the film.*
For our first episode of LuLaBitch, we welcome Derryl Trujillo, the charming and stalwart Home Office employee from LuLaRich on Amazon Prime. I first met Derryl back in 2017, right after we had both left LuLaRoe and found Defective. When helping consult on LuLaRich, I KNEW the producers needed to hear what really happened in Home Office and that Derryl was the only one who could tell it. Derryl shares his experiences being hired, dealing with failed launches, Convention 2016 & 2017 (you decide which was worse) and his emotional tear filled realization that he's worth more than this. Who's joining us at Miguel's for Happy Hour?
Show Notes
Watch LuLaRich on Amazon Prime Video! - https://amzn.to/3k68Axs
Follow Derryl on Twitter! - https://twitter.com/derryl_golfer
Follow Derryl on Instagram! - https://www.instagram.com/derryltrujillo/
Got a job for Derryl? Connect on LinkedIn! - https://www.linkedin.com/in/derryl-trujillo-476500108
Color Lenses Personality Test - https://truecolorsintl.com/the-four-color-personalities/
Millennial Women Made LuLaRoe Billions. Then They Paid The Price. - https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/stephaniemcneal/lularoe-millennial-women-entrepreneurship-lawsuits
PLIGHT OF ROMANIAN CHILDREN SPURS U.S. FAMILIES TO ADOPT - https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1991/01/22/plight-of-romanian-children-spurs-us-families-to-adopt/65fdc7bf-1efb-4b35-a160-8b51810de1ec/
LuLaRoe Is Getting Criticized Again From Women Furious About The Latest Line Of Clothes - https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/stephaniemcneal/lula-noir-launch
LuLaRoe founders fight back against pyramid scheme accusation - https://www.cbsnews.com/video/lularoe-founders-fight-back-against-pyramid-scheme-accusation/
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
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"Tallulah" dodged a bullet when she saw the red flags at a World Financial Group recruitment event and decided to turn down "the opportunity". After making that decision, she was harassed and bullied by her recruiter with vicious texts and voice messages. We also discuss different red flags to look for when trying to figure out if the opportunity being offered is a scam or not, the differences between MLM and "Corporate America" and what to expect from a legitimate job offer.
Show Notes
World Financial Group - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Financial_Group
Betting on Zero - https://amzn.to/3DNlg4e
Transamerica Pyramid - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transamerica_Pyramid
Infiltrating A Pyramid Scheme: WFG - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flugTRSTZoo
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
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CONTENT WARNING - The results of this event have claimed the lives of at least 10 people at the time of publication. We talk about the event, Covid, and the aftermath, including hospitalization and death. Please listen at your own discretion.
A special bonus episode of Life After MLM! Meet Tracey Reid, a former top 1% Bling Boss Paparazzi Mega Seller turned Anti MLM crusader! I was first introduced to her when I was tagged in her Facebook Live video about her opinions on last month's Paparazzi Convention that quickly turned into a Super Spreader event with fatal consequences. After watching her passion for a few minutes I knew I had to get her on the show to chat! Tracey was done reeeaaallll dirty by the PapaCrew and her tea is piping hot.
Show Notes
Paparazzi Tracey Necklace (their old stock, sold by Tracey's daughter Caroline!) - https://bluegrassbling.com/collections/all-products-1/products/the-tracey-zi-collection-necklace-earrings
Tracey modeling her Zi Piece - https://www.facebook.com/ZiTracey/videos/251454288912971
American's with Disabilities Act - https://www.dol.gov/general/topic/disability/ada
IT WASN'T THE FIRST TIME! Justice Department Reaches Agreement with Norwegian Cruise Line Over ADA Violations - https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-reaches-agreement-norwegian-cruise-line-over-ada-violations
Paparazzi Convention TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa/video/6993826771527372038
Paparazzi Convention Update TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa2.0/video/7000541544939867398
Paparazzi Covid Deaths Update TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa2.0/video/7001640192935202054
Las Vegas Coronavirus Update - https://www.lasvegasnevada.gov/News/Blog/Detail/corona-virus-update
Tracey's Facebook Live - https://www.facebook.com/TraceyLynnReid/videos/304824054745920
Can You Make Money Selling Paparazzi Jewelry? Hereโs The Truth - https://sidehustlingmoney.com/can-you-make-money-selling-paparazzi-jewelry/
Portable Photo Studio Light Box - https://amzn.to/3gRZP8l
Support Caroline's Jewelry Business, Blue Grass Bling! - https://bluegrassbling.com/
Support Tracey's Business Consulting Business! - https://www.facebook.com/ReidBusinessSolutions
The 6 Phases of a Tapeworms Life - https://theoatmeal.com/comics/tapeworm
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
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In this episode, we meet "Julie Smith" and she takes us through her journey into "becoming a Hun", while in the top 5% of two different MLMs. From her viewpoint, she got to experience the behavior MLM's don't tell you about; the true costs, what it really takes and what you've got to be willing to let go. As "Julie" tells her story, she recounts how she came to understand that while she was successful in MLM, it was at the expense of the "failures", and she knew she couldn't keep quiet any longer.
Show Notes
LuLaRich Trailer - https://youtu.be/nJgkwIHp1pc
My NEW Website! - www.robertablevins.com
Monat to refund more customers after 2-year Fla. AG investigation on fake product claims - https://www.abcactionnews.com/money/consumer/taking-action-for-you/monat-to-refund-more-customers-after-2-year-fla-ag-investigation-on-fake-product-claims
Do Monat Hair Care Products Cause Hair Loss? - https://www.healthline.com/health/hair-loss-monat
Haley O'Bryan on LAMLM - https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/episodes/Episode-5--Haley-OBryan---MLM--Mental-Health-es59j6
Multilevel Marketing Is Detrimental To Mental Health - https://thebipolarkitty.com/multilevel-marketing-is-detrimental-to-mental-health/
Multi-Level Marketing in Recovery: A Special Report - https://cmwn.org/colorado-mental-wellness-network-blog/special-reports/mlm-recovery/
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
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Eddie was a massage therapist in Tucson, Arizona looking for a more stable and rewarding career when an insurance agent walked though the spa's doors offering options. Though his time in insurance, he found himself working for World Financial Group, an insurance service MLM that seemed more interested in recruiting than selling appropriate policies. Eddie offers some practical advice, we share our love of Jewish bakeries and food, and where he's headed next.
Show Notes
*Follow my TikTok BACKUP Account!- https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa2.0*
World Financial Group - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Financial_Group
Types of Life Insurance - https://www.iii.org/article/what-are-principal-types-life-insurance
The Great Recession - https://www.investopedia.com/terms/g/great-recession.asp
Index Funds - https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/investing/how-to-invest-in-index-funds
BNI - https://www.bni.com/
Insurance Reddit - https://www.reddit.com/r/Insurance/
Personal Finance Reddit Wiki - https://www.reddit.com/r/personalfinance/wiki/insurance/
Securities - https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/security.asp
The Jetsons Meet The Flintstones - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jetsons_Meet_the_Flintstones
People Helping People MLM Scam - https://www.reddit.com/r/antiMLM/comments/eule06/php_agency_is_an_mlm_scam_heres_the_facts/
Class Action Lawsuits & Insurance - https://uphelp.org/claim-guidance-publications/whats-up-with-insurance-class-action-lawsuits/
Finra fines WFG Investments $700,000 - https://www.investmentnews.com/finra-fines-wfg-investments-700000-60279
Jewish Funerals and Burial - https://www.shiva.com/learning-center/death-and-mourning/jewish-funerals-and-burial/
Dutch insurer's U.S. unit draws scrutiny from regulators - https://web.archive.org/web/20080531211002/http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/05/28/business/regs.php
Los Pollos Hermanos - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Pollos_Hermanos
How Money Works: Stop being a SUCKER - https://amzn.to/3xlmDT8
WealthWave MLM Scam - https://www.reddit.com/r/antiMLM/comments/bqnz2f/wealthwave/
WA State Long Term Care Insurance News - https://www.spokanejournal.com/special-report/long-term-insurance-short-term-confusion/
Support my FAVORITE Anti-MLM Clothing Boutiques in Michigan!
Shop Adrianne's Boutique! - adriannesboutique.com
Shop Lee Lee's Boutique! - https://shopleelees.com/
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
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Hey! Thanks so much for being so patient while I took July off for some mental health time. New episodes with return Sunday, August 1st! We've got stories coming up from World Financial Group, Herbalife, Younique, and many more! Plus, some personal updates, social media updates, sharing some milestones and what else I have in store for new episodes! See you next week!
Show Notes!
Anti MLM Bookclub - Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
We hit 100K! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa/video/6988690539826728197?lang=en&is_copy_url=1&is_from_webapp=v1
My NEW YouTube Channel - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xr8VrNAbpWE&t=16s
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In the conclusion of Abby's episode, we finish out chat on MLMs & Christianity and dive into our personal thoughts and fact based opinions on Multi Level Marketing, and why what seems like simple and kind things to do, end up being nefarious traps that keep people stuck in the scam longer and cause them to lose more money over time. Plus, a direct call to action to church leaders to keep spaces safe from predatory scams, and a call to action to those with friends in MLM as well.
Show Notes
Itโs Time For Christians (And Society, For That Matter) To Confront MLMs - https://ethan.shol.ly/blog/confronting-mlms/
John Oliver Last Week Tonight MLM Episode - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6MwGeOm8iI
A History of Young Living founder Gary Young - https://www.reddit.com/r/antiMLM/comments/85z454/a_history_of_young_living_founder_gary_young/
The 7 Stages of Grief - https://www.healthline.com/health/stages-of-grief
Paris Geller - https://gilmoregirls.fandom.com/wiki/Paris_Geller
The Dream Podcast - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-dream/id1435743296
Ministers, please stop peddling multilevel marketing products to the church - https://www.christianpost.com/voices/ministers-please-stop-peddling-multilevel-marketing-products-to-the-church.html
Dolores Umbridge - https://harrypotter.fandom.com/wiki/Dolores_Umbridge
Frasier - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frasier
Rent or Buy Betting on Zero - https://amzn.to/3heUVRV
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
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Abby Miller thought she was just "helping out a friend" at church by buying some oils, when she got an email welcoming her to the team as Young Living's newest distributor. After that experience she wanted to understand what had happened to her and why, and she went down the MLM rabbit hole. Being a Christian, Abby began to see that the MLM practices she was experiencing in her community were contradicting the biblical values she had been taught. After finding the podcast and listening to Ryan's episode on Mormonism, Abby wanted to be on the show to take on MLMs and Christianity. I wanted her on the show to have her answer the age old question; "Abby! What's your BEEF with MLM?!"
Show Notes
Some members of multilevel-marketing company Young Living are making questionable claims about 'essential oils' curing cancer and coronavirus - https://www.businessinsider.com/young-living-essential-oils-medical-claims-2020-7
The prosperity gospel, explained: Why Joel Osteen believes that prayer can make you rich - https://www.vox.com/identities/2017/9/1/15951874/prosperity-gospel-explained-why-joel-osteen-believes-prayer-can-make-you-rich-trump
Cleansing of the Temple - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleansing_of_the_Temple#:~:text=And%20Jesus%20went%20into%20the,it%20a%20den%20of%20thieves.
Loaded Language - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loaded_language
Itโs Time For Christians (And Society, For That Matter) To Confront MLMs - https://ethan.shol.ly/blog/confronting-mlms/
"Minnesota nice" -https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_nice
John Oliver Last Week Tonight MLM Episode - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6MwGeOm8iI
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
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Before Julie Jo was a major force in the AntiMLM TikTok community, she was an Arbonne Hun. She climbed the ranks within her MLM, and qualified for that coveted White Mercedes. Julie breaks down what it takes to get there and how much that "FREE CAR" really costs. We also chat about TikTok, the AntiMLM community, cult tactics, and what we do about all those "haters" we get.
*If you're catching us in real time, head over to TikTok for a dual live chat about the episode!*
Show Notes
Julie's TikTok! https://www.tiktok.com/@walkin_on_lexapro
Hattie Louise TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@hattie.louise
Charlie's TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@__dearsociety
The 9 Enneagrams - https://www.enneagraminstitute.com/type-descriptions
Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
https://www.verywellmind.com/what-is-toxic-positivity-5093958#forms-of-toxic-positivity
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
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When Laura found herself pregnant with her 4th baby, in the middle of the Covid pandemic, she worried that her Mary Kay business may have been hurting more than it was helping. She took a long look at the numbers with her husband, and realized that she "never saw a true profit" from her 5 years in the "business". After a stress induced rash and severely swollen feet, Laura had "the talk" and decided to make a life change, another unexpected silver lining of the pandemic.
Show Notes
About the 99% Failure Rate - https://www.pinktruth.com/2019/08/08/about-the-99-failure-rate/
Top 10 Reasons to NOT Do Mary Kay - http://www.pinktruth.com/mary-kay-facts/top-10-reasons-to-not-do-mary-kay/
Finance Guy Mary Kay Review - https://finance-guy.tumblr.com/post/161393409877/mary-kay-review
MARY KAY COSMETICS EARNINGS REPRESENTATIONS - http://www.sequenceinc.com/fraudfiles/2012/12/mary-kay-cosmetics-earnings-representations/
Mary Kay Canada IDS - https://www.marykay.ca/en-ca/pages/earnings-representation
Mary Kay Review โ Donโt Join Before Reading This - https://www.mlmnewsreport.com/mary-kay-review/
MARY KAY OFF-ROADS INTO DECEPTIVE INCOME CLAIMS - https://www.truthinadvertising.org/mary-kay-off-roads-into-deceptive-income-claims/
LuLaRoe allegedly pressured saleswomen to sell their breast milk so they could buy more inventory - https://hellogiggles.com/news/lularoe-saleswomen-sell-breast-milk-inventory/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
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Laura Caton was a mother of young children just looking for something of her own when she learned about a local community theater company in her area. She was targeted multiple times in her small town by the local Mary Kay Director, before eventually "starting her own business" with the MLM. Because she was a homeschooling mom, with little outlet outside of home, she began selling and sharing the opportunity within the theater company, convinced they needed the quality products that "only Mary Kay could offer". Laura and I share similar MLM experiences and joke about some of the less obvious red flags in these scams, while she shares her journey over 5 years in Mary Kay.
Show Notes
What is the deal with Melaleuca? - https://www.reddit.com/r/antiMLM/comments/kreaer/whats_the_deal_with_melaleuca/
Pink Truth - http://www.pinktruth.com/
Allez-Vous Cosmetics - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lU9t47bdExE
Why Women Are Quitting Their Side Hustle: Leaving LuLaRoe - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6eujSJ0-RU
About the 99% Failure Rate (in Mary Kay)- https://www.pinktruth.com/2019/08/08/about-the-99-failure-rate/
Mary Kay The Derm review - https://thedermreview.com/mary-kay-reviews/
The Ordinary Squalane Cleanser *$7.90/50ml - https://theordinary.deciem.com/us/rdn-squalane-cleanser-50ml.html
The Ordinary Derm review - https://thedermreview.com/the-ordinary-review/
Garnier SkinActive Micellar Cleansing Water, For Waterproof Makeup - https://amzn.to/35dwBKS
LIFE AFTER MLM DOES NOT RECOMMEND SIGNING UP FOR THIS JOKE OF A CREDIT CARD (it's just for WTF's) - XXXXX https://www.firstbankcard.com/common/lp/marykay/index.html XXXXX
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
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In the conclusion of Rebecca's story, we get a bit deeper into the cult aspects and what she started to see and experience. While her new life as a mom was keeping her busy, and her husband's new career kept him away from the weekly team meetings, things with Amway began to unravel. Rebecca and I discuss different elements of the BITE Model that she personally knew were happening, what it's like to buy your rank, and how "Diamonds" are REALLY made.
Show Notes
Once Upon a Biz Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/onceuponabiz/
Gretchen Wieners is "such a good friend" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ovOboVwB7g
How Amway Ruined my Marriage - https://www.reddit.com/r/antiMLM/comments/9t40an/how_amway_ruined_my_marriage_long/
Amway Ruined my Life - http://marriedtoanambot.blogspot.com/2012/09/amway-ruined-my-life.html
My SO is over a year deep in Amway - https://www.reddit.com/r/antiMLM/comments/824m39/my_so_is_over_a_year_deep_in_amway/
Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
On Becoming a God in Central Florida Episode 1 - https://www.sho.com/video/68672/on-becoming-a-god-series-premiere-tvma
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRS
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Rebecca, the AntiMLM force behind the IG account "Once Upon a Biz", spent 10 years of her life in the cult of Amway. While under their spell, she found herself slowly changing and shifting not only her attitude and focus, but her religious and political views as well. She met her husband while in what she describes as her "hunbot" phase, and shares what it's like navigating a marriage formed in the cult, once you've left. I've heard of some culty MLM behavior, but this one takes the cake.
Show Notes
Once Upon a Biz Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/onceuponabiz/
Amway North America (Formerly Quixtar) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amway_North_America
Amway - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amway
Amway: The Untold Story Cultism In Amway - https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Amway/AUS/cultism.htm
"This is my story Amway is a religious cult" - https://www.reddit.com/r/antiMLM/comments/basst3/this_is_my_story_amway_is_a_religious_cult_im/
How MLMs And Cults Use The Same Mind Control Techniques - https://www.huffpost.com/entry/multilevel-marketing-companies-mlms-cults-similarities_l_5d49f8c2e4b09e72973df3d3
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRS
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*Content Warning* This story contains the exploitation of minors as young as 16, in a "Student Financial Assistance" scam. Those who are sensitive to stories like this, please use your best judgement before proceeding.
Chelsea Flores was a young woman living in the Philippines, when she heard about a financial assistance scam targeting young students in her area. The opportunity, Zafire Natural Beauty and Wellness, an MLM headed by a narcissistic cult-like leader, looked too good to be true. Although she was not a victim of Zafire, she knew she had to help the students get justice by telling their story on social media, hoping to get anyone's attention. In this bonus episode, we try to make sense of the scam known as Zafire Natural Beauty and Wellness.
After Chelsea contacted me, I reached out to my friend Alanda Carter of the Recovering Hunbot and asked her if she would do a deep dive on the "business" and it's egomaniacal leader while I talked to the victims. The link to her expose can be found in the show notes.
Show Notes
Recovering Hunbot's "Is Michael Medina's Zafire Club & Student Financial Assistance Scamming Innocent People" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVlednxRY8w
Zafire Natural Beauty and Wellness - https://www.facebook.com/ZafireClubOfficial2020/
Zafire Student Financial Assistance Legit ba? Honest Review - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLUkVU9MdFA
Zafire Student Financial Assistance Orientation with Michael Medina - https://www.facebook.com/100937454680100/videos/431323424915900
Strongest typhoon of 2020 slams the Philippines, killing at least 10 - https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/01/asia/philippines-super-typhoon-goni-landfall-intl-hnk/index.html
Zafire Studdent Awareness Group - https://www.facebook.com/groups/444710573546612/
Data Privacy Act - https://www.privacy.com.ph/learn-data-privacy-compliance/data-privacy-faqs/
Zafire Reddit- https://www.reddit.com/r/PyramidScamPH/comments/hxpww7/curious_about_zafire/
Zafire is on 24 Oras with English Subtitles - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wflo5HDt_rU
Chelsea's Channel "The Story After MLM Control" -https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAb8AUb5o05E4Rmkq5fZk4w
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRS
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*Content Warning* This episode features a former rep from Pure Romance, an MLM that deals with adult products and toys. We talk about many topics that are not suitable for younger listeners, and could be triggering for some, including sexual situations and trauma. Please listen at your own discretion.
In part 2, "Ruth" finishes her story about her time in Pure Romance and shares what she started to experience as soon as higher education came into her life. We talk about the aspects of Pyramid Schemes and how certain things she personally saw mirrored Robert FitzPatrick's teachings on what the cornerstones are. Now that "Ruth" is AntiMLM, she shares some of her favorite creators and resources for support and education, and we chat about the future of the movement.
Show Notes
Sex and HIV Education - https://www.guttmacher.org/state-policy/explore/sex-and-hiv-education?gclid=CjwKCAjw-qeFBhAsEiwA2G7Nl7q1sPQYTzx8yqWsP3tNKlal58tj30GoLh_ezh4So2CHnrLoo4JrDRoCiZgQAvD_BwE
Not The Good Girl - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4DMThX0F-h6F1nzCbp6shw
Monica Hayworth's Anti MLM Group - https://www.facebook.com/groups/478231729691989
iilluminaughtii - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpDmn2FfVYdPIDwRTcf5-OA
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRS
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*Content Warning* This episode features a former rep from Pure Romance, an MLM that deals with adult products and toys. We talk about many topics that are not suitable for younger listeners, and could be triggering for some, including sexual situations and trauma. Please listen at your own discretion.
"Ruth" joined Pure Romance when her previous MLM, Slumber Parties was bought out and they were merged together. For 7 years, she was at the top 5% of the company, educating on sexual health and wellness, or so she thought. Despite any gut feelings, she stayed because she genuinely loved connecting with her customers. After realizing that some of the people she was helping needed a lot more than she could offer, "Ruth" found her true calling.
Show Notes
Slumber Parties/Pure Romance merger - https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/pure-romance-llc-acquires-slumber-parties-240825911.html
Kinsey Institute - https://kinseyinstitute.org/
Me and the "Giant Lollipop" - https://www.instagram.com/p/CNbSljMlRA4/
Cal Exotics Products - https://amzn.to/3bN7BxP
Pure Romance Dupes - https://www.skinsafeproducts.com/pure-romance
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRS
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Another Bonus episode! And this time it's with my girl, Chelsea! You may know her from her YouTube Channel where she does deep dives into MLM companies, talks to former 1%, and exposes scammers, among other things. We chat about her new gig as a full time content creator, her personal experiences in MLM, and the differences she's seen between being an actual sales professional, vs an MLM rep. Plus, Chelsea's beef with Monat, and what you can do to help too.
Show Notes
Chelsea's YouTube Channel - https://www.youtube.com/c/CCSuarez
Chelsea's TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@iamccsuarez?
Chelsea's Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/iamccsuarez/
Chelsea's Linktree - https://linktr.ee/iamccsuarez
Leah Remini: Scientology and the Aftermath - https://www.aetv.com/shows/leah-remini-scientology-and-the-aftermath
Chloe + Isabel closes - https://www.businessforhome.org/2019/07/mlm-company-chloe-and-isabel-will-close-business/
Monat Deep Dive - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLMukadDHtI
Ashley Moody, FL AG - http://www.myfloridalegal.com/pages.nsf/Main/1515CE372E59D1E885256CC60071B1C4
GOT Petyr Baelish "Motives" speech - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdpcyovK0ZU
DEAR BOSS BABE: A RESPONSE FOR COLD MESSAGES | OPEN LETTER TO NETWORK MARKETERS - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dekiL3MVa0
Monat issuing refunds following Florida Attorney General investigation into hair care product claims - https://www.wrtv.com/news/wrtv-investigates/monat-issuing-refunds-following-florida-attorney-general-investigation-into-hair-care-product-claims#:~:text=Consumers%20who%20believe%20they%20are,the%20refund%20request%20form%20here.
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRS
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"Moira" was a stay at home mom of 3 boys, who bought into the hype of MLM in 2016. While chasing the dream of being at the top of the pyramid, "Moira" found herself involved with 3 different MLMs, including an elusive invitation to a "Ground Floor Opportunity". From her vantage point, she got a deep look into the toxic positivity of MLM, and experienced more psychological manipulation than she bargained for.
Show Notes
Millennial Women Made LuLaRoe Billions. Then They Paid The Price. - https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/stephaniemcneal/lularoe-millennial-women-entrepreneurship-lawsuits
Is Color Street A Scam? 5 Reasons Why You Should Avoid This MLM! - https://youraffiliatesalary.com/is-color-street-a-scam
The Dream Podcast - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-dream/id1435743296
You know those bags with the clear pockets to display your MLM haul? - https://www.reddit.com/r/antiMLM/comments/al43ta/you_know_those_bags_with_the_clear_pockets_to/
What is Toxic Positivity? - https://www.verywellmind.com/what-is-toxic-positivity-5093958#:~:text=Toxic%20positivity%20is%20the%20belief,vibes%20only%22%20approach%20to%20life.
What is Gaslighting? - https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/gaslighting#:~:text=Gaslighting%20is%20a%20form%20of,and%20unable%20to%20trust%20themselves.
Manipulative people hook their victims with a tactic called 'love bombing' โ here are the signs you've been a target - https://www.businessinsider.com/what-is-love-bombing-2017-7
How to Leave an MLM - https://www.finder.com/how-to-leave-an-mlm
Brene Brown - https://brenebrown.com/
I Thought It Was Just Me (but it isn't): Making the Journey from "What Will People Think?" to "I Am Enough" - https://amzn.to/2SKHRv4
Simon Sinek - "Leaders Eat Last" - https://amzn.to/3wfduvv
Simon Sinek - "Start With Why" - https://amzn.to/2SVPHSP
Monica Hayworth's Anti MLM Group - https://www.facebook.com/groups/478231729691989
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRS
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In the conclusion of Megan's story, she shares her struggles with Senegence, the predatory and toxic nature of what she experienced inside the cult, and how she got out and moved on. We also connect on a personal level and find out we have a lot more in common that just MLM (which is a pattern of coincidence I'm starting to see on this show...).
Show Notes
Megan "ZonaLife" YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCL-WOySfYcGuFzLaI9qWnJQs
Erica McBeth YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCV1lJDzOZshmJPn76_J4kKg
52 New Friends - https://amzn.to/33IqBcp
American Foundation for Suicide Prevention - https://afsp.org/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRS
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As an addict in recovery, Megan was targeted in her sacred Tuesday Night meeting by a seemingly friendly looking, tattooed woman who she connected with. Over a cup of coffee, she's pitched the beauty MLM, Senegence and decides to start her "business". Over the course of her time with the company, Megan started to notice things weren't what she signed up for. Thankfully for us, she's spilling all the SeneTea.
Show Notes
Megan "ZonaLife" YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCL-WOySfYcGuFzLaI9qWnJQs
Million Dollar Lips: A Journey into the Hearts of Women and Business - https://amzn.to/3utlZlO
SeneGence Compensation Plan - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuLQL65Miz4
Senegence 2020 IDS - https://cdn.colorstreet.com/content/documents/incomedisclosure-2020.pdf
SENEGENCE INCOME CLAIMS DATABASE - https://www.truthinadvertising.org/senegence-income-claims-database/
Senegence and The DSA - https://www.dsa.org/forms/CompanyFormPublicMembers/view?id=7F300001010
Senegence Foundation Swatch Chart - https://swakbeauty.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/IMG_0778.png
Senegence Crown Princess Ring - https://www.pinterest.com/pin/240450067590518223/
Can You Make Money with Senegence? - https://www.finance-guy.net/streetonomic/money-senegence-review
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRS
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In this bonus episode, I interview the hosts of Sip with Me about their MLM themed, second season. I had so much fun talking with Ioanna and Aaron last summer on their show, that I had to have them on mine! They recount what they learned diving into the Anti MLM world, their own cringey experiences with MLM, how it invaded their personal and professional spaces and even share an MLM inspired cocktail created just for the show!
Show Notes
Sip with Me Podcast - https://www.sipwithme.org/podcast
Sip with Me Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/sipwithme_/
My episode with Ioanna & Aaron! - https://www.sipwithme.org/podcast/episode/27d46f9a/s2-e5-anti-mlm-movement-with-roberta-blevins
How lobbying dollars prop up pyramid schemes - https://www.theverge.com/2014/4/8/5590550/alleged-pyramid-schemes-lobbying-ftc
Direct Sellers Association - https://www.dsa.org/
Multi Level Marketing for Personal Trainers - Is it Ethical? - https://www.instituteofpersonaltrainers.com/blog/multi-level-marketing-for-personal-trainers-is-it-ethical
Murder Murder News - https://murdermurder.news/
Art of Sucre - https://artofsucre.com/
Holly Nicols - https://www.hnicholsillustration.com/
Coyote Ugly Las Vegas - https://www.coyoteuglysaloon.com/vegas/
The Call Center Scam - https://www.sipwithme.org/podcast/episode/232b1e97/s3-e4-call-center-scam
True Crime with Diane Fanning - https://www.sipwithme.org/podcast/episode/bc5b684a/s3-e5-true-crime-with-diane-fanning
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRS
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In the conclusion of Amanda's story, we finish up the BITE model and talk about the artificial "mentorship" and friendships of MLM. Once she understood what was actually happening, she became fiercely protective of her groups outside of Amway and started to realize that this wasn't what she signed up for. Her and her husband decided that it was time to leave, and shortly after things began to change.
Show Notes
Steven Hassanโs BITE Model of Authoritarian Control - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
LAMLM : The BITE Model with Josie Naikoi Part 1 - https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/episodes/Episode-19--Josie-Naikoi---The-BITE-Model---Part-1-eurvav
LAMLM : The BITE Model with Josie Naikoi Part 2 - https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/episodes/Episode-20--Josie-Naikoi---The-BITE-Model---Part-2-eutm6n
Josie Naikoi "Not the Good Girl" - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4DMThX0F-h6F1nzCbp6shw
Savy Leister "Savy Writes Books" - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9WShNx2HsXRGjj9F593HzA
Haley O'Bryan "Counselor Haley" - https://www.instagram.com/counselorhaley/?hl=en
Nutrilite - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nutrilite
The Pyramid of Amway - https://arrestyourdebt.com/amway-pyramid-scheme/
Amway Made China a Billion-Dollar Market. Now It Faces a Crackdown. - https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/08/business/amway-china.html
What Happened When China Joined the WTO? - https://world101.cfr.org/global-era-issues/trade/what-happened-when-china-joined-wto
Amway - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amway
Direct Selling in China: Multi-Level Marketing, But Not As You Know It - https://www.tmogroup.asia/direct-selling-in-china-multi-level-marketing/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRS
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Amanda and her husband were newly transplanted into Southern California for work, and looking for some mentorship and direction in life when she met a nice girl offering just that at a coffee shop. She was quickly swept up into the controlling nature of the oldest MLM in the world, Amway. Amanda and I talk about what life was like inside the cult, the BITE Model, and Amway's odd fixation on married couples and The American Dream.
Show Notes
Josie Naikoi "Not the Good Girl" - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4DMThX0F-h6F1nzCbp6shw
Savy Leister "Savy Writes Books" - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9WShNx2HsXRGjj9F593HzA
Haley O'Bryan "Counselor Haley" - https://www.instagram.com/counselorhaley/?hl=en
Why is California so Expensive? - https://sunlightliving.com/why-is-california-so-expensive/
World Wide Group - https://www.wwghq.com/
Robert Kiyosaki and Multi-Level Marketing Exposed! - https://www.lazymanandmoney.com/robert-kiyosaki-and-multi-level-marketing-exposed/
How Amway Ruined my Marriage - https://www.reddit.com/r/antiMLM/comments/9t40an/how_amway_ruined_my_marriage_long/
Beware Of Amway Mentors? - http://amwayscheme.blogspot.com/2017/05/beware-of-amway-mentors.html
Steven Hassanโs BITE Model of Authoritarian Control - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
LAMLM : The BITE Model with Josie Naikoi Part 1 - https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/episodes/Episode-19--Josie-Naikoi---The-BITE-Model---Part-1-eurvav
LAMLM : The BITE Model with Josie Naikoi Part 2 - https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/episodes/Episode-20--Josie-Naikoi---The-BITE-Model---Part-2-eutm6n
Extreme Ownership - https://amzn.to/3eBVG6s
The Go-Giver - https://amzn.to/2QBlyaK
Start with Why: How Great Leaders Inspire Everyone to Take Action - https://amzn.to/3333SaC
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRS
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In the early 1990's Skip Press was a newlywed with a son on the way, looking for an alternative to the freelance life he was currently living; the thought of a corporate job with consistent, steady pay was enticing. He was hired on as the new Communications Director, and placed in charge of the huge yearly convention for a HUGE Multi Level Marketing company with juicy secrets. Things started to get weird almost immediately, as Skip recounts late night meetings, confidential confessions, volatile work environments, bogus health claims, and shocking evidence for future investigations in what he calls "the rocky ride on the chariot to the sun".
Show Notes
Skip Press - http://www.skippress.com/
"Mormon Tea" - https://www.webmd.com/vitamins/ai/ingredientmono-569/mormon-tea
NCAHF Position Paper on Over-the Counter Herbal Remedies (1995) - https://quackwatch.org/ncahf/pp/herbal/
Two Plead Guilty in Massive Tax, Customs Fraud Case - https://quackwatch.org/cases/doj/chen/plea/
Firm's Owners Indicted on Tax Evasion - https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1995-03-02-fi-37974-story.html
UNITED STATES v. CHEN - https://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-9th-circuit/1368185.html
The regeneration of Dr. Chen - https://easyreadernews.com/profile-regeneration-dr-chen-doctors-tei-fu-oi-len-chen-meld-traditional-chinese-herbalism-western-science-billion-dollar-worldwide-nutritional-supplements-company/
OrrinPAC PAC Donors - http://www.opensecrets.org/political-action-committees-pacs/orrinpac/C00235572/donors/2008
DSHEA: Sen. Orrin Hatchโs Legacy to Direct Selling - https://www.directsellingnews.com/dshea-sen-orrin-hatchs-legacy-to-direct-selling/
Herbal company aims to put tax scandal behind it - https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2009-sep-09-fi-sunrider9-story.html
Prosecutors Say Sunrider Made Profits Vanish in Import Abuse - https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB852589146988401500
Traditional Chinese Medicine: What You Need To Know - https://www.nccih.nih.gov/health/traditional-chinese-medicine-what-you-need-to-know
Li Ching-Yuen - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Li_Ching-Yuen
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRS
How can you help?
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Hey! A little call to action before we jump into this next story, I need your help! I am working on some ideas for future episodes, but I can't do it without you! Just hear me out hun, this could be an exciting opportunity for you! Afterwards, listen to the story of Belen, who was looking for friendship, confidence and community, but instead found gaslighting, manipulation and bullying from the same people she thought were her friends.
Show Notes
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https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/
https://www.instagram.com/therealrobertablevins/
https://www.facebook.com/therealrobertablevins
LuLaNo - https://www.reddit.com/r/LuLaNo/
TINA Senegence Income Claims - https://www.truthinadvertising.org/senegence-income-claims-database/
Can You Make Money With Lipsense - https://www.finance-guy.net/streetonomic/money-senegence-review
How much can you earn with MLM Nu Skin? - https://www.talentedladiesclub.com/articles/how-much-can-you-earn-with-mlm-nu-skin/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRS
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CONTENT WARNING : In this episode, we break down the deceptive and dangerous dealings of Mr. "Doctor" Donald Gary Young, founder of Young Living. We talk about many things that may be triggering to people, including infanticide. Please listen at your own discretion.
In the second half of Liz's story, we talk about the random cause and effect that lead to her ending her Herbalife business, her time as a Young Living "kitnapper" and our common experiences in the beauty industry.
Show Notes
Students Defrauded by Marinello Schools of Beauty Obtain Belated Discharges After Filing Suit Against the Department of Education - https://www.nclc.org/media-center/students-defrauded-by-marinello-schools.html
Hattori Hanzo Scam - https://www.reddit.com/r/Barber/comments/dldbo6/can_we_talk_about_how_hanzo_cheaply_makes_shears/
Aura Cacia Essential Oils - https://www.auracacia.com/
Plant Therapy Essential Oils - https://www.planttherapy.com/
Young Living Income Disclosure Statement - https://www.oildropinn.com/income-disclosure
A Dangerous Mind: Gary Young - http://gary-young-fraud.blogspot.com/2017/01/a-dangerous-mind-gary-young.html
Donald Gary Young - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Gary_Young (sources for above claims can be found at the bottom of this wiki)
Revive "Young Living Joy" essential oil blend Dupe - https://www.revive-eo.com/product/joy-essential-oil-blend/?gclid=CjwKCAiAkJKCBhAyEiwAKQBCkrf_TBFExj4fPI5Sn056DcK_AnPzlDQYZM_rfTYvYioq2F_QnuxkZRoCHPQQAvD_BwE
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRS
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When MLM found Liz, she was looking to up her game on the roller derby circuit. One of her derby friends reached out with a solution that answered of her problems, or so it seemed. Liz decided to go "all in" after a roller derby injury resulted in her losing her job as a cocktail waitress at a local casino. In this episode, we get deep into what it's like to sell Herbalife, what's the deal with those "Nutrition Shops", Betting on Zero and what happened to the latino population in Los Angeles during that time, and a professional's opinion on Monat.
Show Notes
Herbalife Income Disclosure 2011 - https://seekingalpha.com/article/1082471-herbalifes-magical-disclosure-math-doesnt-add-up
Betting on Zero - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betting_on_Zero
Toxic Positivity - https://www.instagram.com/p/CL4juJ-F3nK/
Cayman Islands - https://www.google.com/search?q=cayman+islands+income+tax&oq=cayman+is&aqs=chrome.3.0i67i355i433j46i67i433j69i57j0i67l3j0i433j0i67l2j0i433.5931j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
5 Facts From โBetting on Zero,โ the Infuriating Doc About Herbalife Preying on Latinos - https://remezcla.com/lists/film/betting-on-zero-documentary-2016-tribeca-film-festival/
Why Did Kamala Harris Let Herbalife Off The Hook? - https://www.huffpost.com/entry/why-did-kamala-harris-let-herbalife-off-the-hook_n_5c8fab16e4b03e83bdc39a37
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRS
Monat Lawsuits - https://www.mlmnewsreport.com/monat-lawsuits/
Alterna Haircare - https://www.sephora.com/brand/alterna
Victims Of Hair Transformations Detox - https://www.facebook.com/VictimsHairDetox/
How can you help?
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Josie and I finish up the BITE Model in part 2, diving into the Informational and Emotional control of commercial cults. Afterwards we discuss the DSA and politics in MLM, an inside perspective into those "free" perks, the culture and dynamics of the top of the pyramid, and a little personal chat and look into our lives outside of our Anti MLM advocacy efforts.
Show Notes
Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
DC Talk - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DC_Talk
Bruno Mars, Anderson .Paak, Silk Sonic - Leave the Door Open [Official Video] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adLGHcj_fmA
Leah Remini: Scientology and the Aftermath - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leah_Remini:_Scientology_and_the_Aftermath
Alanda Carter, The Recovering Hunbot - https://www.youtube.com/c/TheRecoveringHunbot/videos
Josie's Interview with Me! - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5NaeVYKOlY&t=5651s
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRS
Books by Steven Hassan:
Combatting Cult Mind Control - https://amzn.to/3uLhYco
The Cult of Trump - https://amzn.to/32dKdnE
Freedom of Mind - https://amzn.to/3tlxYkT
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You asked, and we answered! In this bonus episode, I talk to AntiMLM Advocate, "Not the Good Girl", Josie Naikoi about her time in MLM as the Top 1%, and our favorite topic to ramble on about, the BITE model.
Show Notes
Not the Good Girl - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4DMThX0F-h6F1nzCbp6shw/featured
Combatting Cult Mind Control by Steven Hassan - https://amzn.to/3uLhYco
"Because of Deanne" - https://www.instagram.com/explore/tags/becauseofdeanne/
TikTok Hun - https://www.tiktok.com/@danascentedlifestyle/video/6885071802985467137?lang=en&is_copy_url=0&is_from_webapp=v1&sender_device=pc&sender_web_id=6939536475465729541
When not even giving birth can slow down a hun. - https://www.reddit.com/r/antiMLM/comments/chic0f/when_not_even_giving_birth_can_slow_down_a_hun/
Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRS
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As if his story in part one couldn't get any weirder, in part two Russ tells us about his experience of heading to a big ACN convention where Donald Trump, star of The Apprentice, would be speaking at. He recounts his trip, including fudge inspired doowop, and odd encounter with an employee in the lobby of McDonalds. We get deep into the celebrity and political affiliations with ACN, how men are targeted by MLMs, and getting out of the MLM Complex.
Show Notes
Experience the excitement of ACN events! - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EQNcnx7AZg
ACN Convention circa 2006 - https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x317ow
I couldn't find "My Fudge", but please enjoy this other Fudge Parody of "Runaround Sue" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAfQuYA2Yd4
This is a Pro-MLM article about celebs and MLM's, but it makes great points as to why these scams appeal to celebs and the predatory use of the "opportunity"; Why Celebrities are Partnering with Network Marketing Companies - https://www.thesocialcelebrity.com/featuresblog/2019/12/10/why-celebrities-are-partnering-with-network-marketing-companies
ACN & Donald Trump - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjGYcg34WXQ
Jim Rohn "The Magic of Part Time" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFR3Dx377ME
FOX 11 Investigates ACN - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8WDt-2SKFs
The Slave Circle (Direct Marketing Devil Corp. Documentary) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyCRzBt7GuY
Deceptive Income Disclosures Power MLM Recruiting And Expansion - https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/deceptive-income-disclosures-power-mlm-recruiting-and-expansion-2016-03-30
The Persuasian Pitch Podcast - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-persuasion-pitch/id1546523817
Windermere Candle Company - https://windermerecandleco.com/
Betting on Zero - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betting_on_Zero
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRS
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
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In this episode, we get to meet our very first "BroBot", Russ Nielsen, who had an incredibly unbelievable experience in a serviced based MLM. In an effort to keep Russ motivated and "all in" with their scam, his upline kept pushing attending big events, even when he couldn't afford to go. Even with the strange and abusive treatment he received, the dopamine fueled parties kept Russ on the hook, right up until the sunk cost fallacy kicked in when he went to Baltimore to hear Donald Trump speak.
Show Notes
ACN Opportunity - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dV0uZk-KIPk
ACN Customer Acquisition Scripts - http://www.xschampions.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/tony_cupiszscript.pdf
Rotten Apples - https://www.itamer.com/its-good-to-be-a-rotten-apple/262/
ACN and Donald Trump - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjGYcg34WXQ
Donald Trump promotes ACN - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbIih4RghUQ
Sunk Cost Fallacy - https://www.instagram.com/p/CM7vRRiFoLE/
ACN International Event December 2006 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcPaPOVBCY0
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRS
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
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In part 2, Robert and I finish up our analysis into the differences between MLMs and Pyramid Schemes, answer some questions from our listeners, discuss what the future of the Anti-MLM movement looks like and how to achieve the cohesive message that we both believe will change the future of how people view and understand Multi Level Marketing on a fundamental level.
Show Notes:
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRS
False Profits: Seeking Financial and Spiritual Deliverance in Multi-Level Marketing and Pyramid Schemes - https://amzn.to/3wr4Yu7
How Does Multi Level Marketing (MLM) Work? - https://loanstreet.com.my/learning-centre/multi-level-marketing-explained
It Works! "Powdered Celery" - https://static.myitworks.com/productsheets/34800/34800-productinfo-en.pdf
Bernie Madoff - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Madoff
Spanish Prisoner Scam - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Prisoner
"Advance-Fee Scam" (Nigerian Prince) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advance-fee_scam
Direct Sellers Association - https://www.dsa.org/
Jon Taylor's The Case (for and) against Multi-level Marketing - https://www.ftc.gov/sites/default/files/documents/public_comments/trade-regulation-rule-disclosure-requirements-and-prohibitions-concerning-business-opportunities-ftc.r511993-00017%C2%A0/00017-57317.pdf
Steven Hassan's Freedom of Mind Resource - https://freedomofmind.com/
The Dream - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-dream/id1435743296
Multilevel Marketing: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6MwGeOm8iI
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
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This is the bonus episode I have been waiting to record forever! I always enjoy all my conversations with Robert, because he's so knowledgeable on this subject and we have a great time talking about swindles, scams, tricks and flimflams. After I finished reading Ponzinomics, I immediately emailed Robert and asked him if he would be willing to talk with me on the podcast about his chapter "Anatomy of a Pyramid Scheme", so we can really define what differences there are between Pyramid Schemes and Multi Level Marketing. I think you know where this is going...
Show Notes
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRS
False Profits: Seeking Financial and Spiritual Deliverance in Multi-Level Marketing and Pyramid Schemes - https://amzn.to/3rLipS1
Pyramid Scheme Alert - https://pyramidschemealert.org/
Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Jon M. Taylor, PhD - https://pyramidschemealert.org/PSAMain/about/jmt.html
The Case (for and) against Multi-level Marketing By Jon M. Taylor, MBA, Ph.D. - https://www.ftc.gov/sites/default/files/documents/public_comments/trade-regulation-rule-disclosure-requirements-and-prohibitions-concerning-business-opportunities-ftc.r511993-00017%C2%A0/00017-57317.pdf
Multi Level Marketing: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6MwGeOm8iI
Keith Raniere - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_Raniere
Amway - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amway
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
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When MLM came knocking, Dina was a young newlywed. Even though she grew up with MLM all around her, she never actually fully experienced the insidous cult until she joined one. She felt like she couldn't talk about her experiences because of who had recruited her, but decided it was time to share her experiences about how ridiculous it all really was. We had A LOT of laughs while Dina recapped her journey with the magic blueberry power of Kyani.
Show Notes
5 HEALTH BENEFITS OF THE WILD ALASKAN BLUEBERRY - https://blog.thewellnessuniverse.com/5-health-benefits-alaskan-blueberry/
Kyani Done For You Business Model - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sg_Izi9YNr4
What you should know about Kyani - https://www.truthinadvertising.org/what-you-should-know-about-kyani/
Kyani Potato Pak - https://kyani.com/us/kyani-potato-pak/
Kyรคni Caring Hands Tanzania Africa Trip 2018 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmTvXMW34tU
Kyani Caring Hands Charity Navigator rating - https://www.charitynavigator.org/ein/810829674
White Guilt - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_guilt
Mel Robbins - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mel_Robbins
How Chemotherapy Helps Fight Lupus and Other Autoimmune Diseases - https://www.healthline.com/health-news/how-chemotherapy-helps-fight-lupus-and-other-autoimmune-diseases-101915
Kyani hit with Pyramid Scheme allegations - https://www.truthinadvertising.org/kyani-hit-pyramid-scheme-complaint/
Kyani Pyramid Scheme Claims - https://www.truthinadvertising.org/kyani-pyramid-scheme-claims/
KYANI, HEAD SCIENTIST DOUBLE DOWN ON INAPPROPRIATE HEALTH CLAIMS - https://www.truthinadvertising.org/kyani-head-scientist-double-inappropriate-health-claims/
Qutab v. Kyani, Inc - https://casetext.com/case/qutab-v-kyani-inc
Kyani IDS - https://download.kyani.net/Business%20Documents/Ky%C3%A4ni%20US%20Distributor%20Income%20Disclosure-11.15-en-us.pdf
Founders of Kyani die in plane crash - https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/south-dakota-plane-crash-victims-identified-idaho-business-executives-family-n1094016
Why a new online makeup trend could be doing more harm than good for Black communities - https://www.abc4.com/news/local-news/why-the-new-online-makeup-trend-could-be-doing-more-harm-than-good-for-black-communities/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRS
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
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In this bonus episode, I tackle the age old question of "How much can you make PER HOUR in MLM?" by analyzing 14 different MLM's Income Disclosure Statements, and using averages to find out. I take the annual average wages, divide by 12 to get the monthly figure, then divide by 80 hours a month for part time wages. I think the results may shock you. For comparison, we also talk about minimum wages, livable wages, living comfortably, and what the going rate for labor is in the US Prison System.
*I do say the wrong thing in this episode, stating I divided the monthly figure by 20 to get part time pay, but I meant to say "divide by 80" (20 hours x 4 weeks) so forgive me, because the math still checks out.*
Show Notes!
"Living Comfortably" : https://www.businessinsider.com/personal-finance/living-wage-income-to-live-comfortably-in-every-us-state
Prison Labor Wages : https://isps.yale.edu/news/blog/2013/10/time-to-reckon-with-prison-labor-0#
Livable Wage Info : https://livingwage.mit.edu/articles/61-new-living-wage-data-for-now-available-on-the-tool#
Lollipop Moments : https://www.ted.com/talks/drew_dudley_everyday_leadership?language=en
"What does an average MLM or Network Marketing Distributor make per year?" : https://www.mlminsider.com/articles/what-does-an-average-mlm-or-network-marketing-distributor-make-per-year
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRS
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
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In Part two, Lynzee and I spill A LOT of tea. We get into the nitty gritty details about our collective time in LuLaRoe and dish some gossip about what we experienced, including the LuLaRoe Cruise, what it's like to go to Mark and Deanne's house, the drama of the failed Noir launch and a couple juicy bits more. Lynzee shares her realization about the similarities she saw in Piphany, and what her "final straw" was. Life after MLM for Lynzee includes her continued education and a Marie Kondo style deep clean.
Show Notes
LuLaRoe Partners with Disney - https://www.forbes.com/sites/marciaturner/2017/05/21/clothier-lularoe-partners-with-disney-to-create-new-fashion-collection/?sh=1fb28ba62a54
CEO of LuLaRoe Mark Stidham and his $5M in cars - https://lularoefail.com/2017/11/07/lularoe-mark-stidham-is-buying-5-million-in-autos/
Real stories from the LLR Cruise - https://www.reddit.com/r/antiMLM/comments/7zpuy2/my_friend_went_on_the_lularoe_cruise_and_heres/
Sunk Fallacy - https://www.instagram.com/p/CM7vRRiFoLE/
LuLaRoe's "Level Playing Field" - https://twitter.com/mommylikewhoa/status/1002939798615568385?lang=en
"5 Minutes on your knees" - https://www.reddit.com/r/DefectiveDetectives/comments/b5ddkk/just_remember5_mins_a_day_and_your_husband_wont/
LuLaRoe Xanax allegations - https://lularoefail.com/2018/01/01/lularoe-mentor-xanax-given-going-onstage/
Effort Justification Effect - https://dictionary.apa.org/effort-justification
LuLaRoe Noir Launch Fail - https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/stephaniemcneal/lula-noir-launch
Honey & Lace rebranded as Piphany - https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/piphany-formerly-known-as-honey--lace-announces-name-change-and-company-rebranding-effort-300528497.html
Billy McFarland - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_McFarland_(fraudster)
It Works! "Just Celery" - https://static.myitworks.com/productsheets/34800/34800-productinfo-en.pdf
LuLaRoe's family tree of multilevel marketers - https://www.cbsnews.com/news/lularoes-family-tree-of-multilevel-marketers/
Sam Schultz Hardcore Piphany Recruitment - https://lularoefail.com/2018/07/03/sam-schultz-hardcore-piphany-recruitment/
LuLaRoe sues Piphany - https://news.lularoe.com/news-articles/2019/2/11/memorandum-of-understanding-between-llr-inc-and-piphany
In Group/Out Group theory - https://ethicsunwrapped.utexas.edu/glossary/in-groupout-group
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRS
Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Trust No One #becauseoflularoe https://www.instagram.com/explore/tags/becauseoflularoe/
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
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Lynzee Abel was a wide eyed, optimistic person who just wanted more for her life when she was first introduced to Multi Level Marketing in her teens. With her professional retail experience, she thought she could have an edge in the competitive industry. Once she saw the way MLMs worked from the inside, after being involved in FIVE of them, she decided enough was enough.
Show Notes
My favorite AntiMLM Wax Melt alternative (And it's the family owned business of AntiMLM Advocate Jessica James, of The Persuasion Pitch Podcast!) - https://windermerecandleco.com/
Business Network International (BNI) - https://www.bni.com/about
Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fortune_Hi-Tech_Marketing
Rumspringa - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rumspringa
Griddy Sued by Texas AG! - https://www.npr.org/2021/03/01/972515561/texas-attorney-general-sues-griddy-saying-electricity-provider-misled-customers
Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing sued by the FTC - https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/personalfinance/2013/01/28/fhtm-shut-down-pyramid-scheme/1870527/
Me opening and smelling the 1980's Avon Dancing Cat from the "Pink and Pretty" collection -
Avon Barbie - https://www.upcitemdb.com/upc/74299222023
Need help? Postpartum Support International - https://www.postpartum.net/get-help/
RIP Periscope - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Periscope_(service)
LuLaRoe sued over sales tax - https://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyphillipserb/2017/02/27/popular-fashion-line-lularoe-sued-for-overcharging-customers-sales-tax/?sh=78a491aa176d
What is "Toxic Positivity" - https://www.instagram.com/p/CL4juJ-F3nK/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRS
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
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After tackling topics like cultural moray, the role of women in the LDS faith, and why Utah is rife with MLM's in part one, Ryan and I dive into "Big Pyramid", Mitt Romney's connections to MLM, the affinity fraud of Tahitian Noni Juice, the obsession of outrageous health claims and essential oils from a religious standpoint, and where your tithing really goes. This is Part 2.
Show Notes:
Truth and Transparency - https://www.truthandtransparency.org/
How much do top Mormon leaders make? Leaked pay stubs may surprise you. - https://archive.sltrib.com/article.php?id=4800350&itype=cmsid
New website plans to showcase leaked Mormon documents - https://archive.sltrib.com/article.php?id=4725913&itype=CMSID
MormonLeaks Reddit post about leaked payments - https://www.reddit.com/r/exmormon/comments/5mysp0/leaked_q15_and_1q70_pay_information/
Morinda aka Tahitian Noni Juice - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morinda,_Inc.
Get-Rich-Quick Profiteers Love Mitt Romney, and He Loves Them Back - https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/05/mitt-romney-nu-skin-multilevel-marketing-schemes/
The Dream Podcast - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-dream/id1435743296
DSHEA: Sen. Orrin Hatchโs Legacy to Direct Selling - https://www.directsellingnews.com/dshea-sen-orrin-hatchs-legacy-to-direct-selling/
The Case (for and) against Multi-level Marketing By Jon M. Taylor, MBA, Ph.D. - https://www.ftc.gov/sites/default/files/documents/public_comments/trade-regulation-rule-disclosure-requirements-and-prohibitions-concerning-business-opportunities-ftc.r511993-00017%C2%A0/00017-57317.pdf
Consecrating Oil - https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/priesthood-ordinances-and-blessings/consecrating-oil?lang=eng
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRS
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As the founder of Truth and Transparency, and a former member of the Church of Jesus Christ and the Latter Day Saints, Ryan McKnight has a unique perspective into the culture and atmosphere of the Mormon faith. Paired with his understanding of Multi Level Marketing and the scam it perpetuates, Ryan and I have an in depth discussion into some of the reasons why many LDS members fall victims to these cons, including cultural moray, gender roles within the church, "Magic Underwear", why MLM chose Utah and affinity fraud. This is part one.
Show Notes
Ryan's website, Truth and Transparency, a non-profit newsroom dedicated to religious accountability - https://www.truthandtransparency.org/
Follow the profit: How Mormon culture made Utah a hotbed for multi-level marketers - https://kutv.com/news/local/follow-the-profit-how-mormon-culture-made-utah-a-hotbed-for-multi-level-marketers
10 reasons Mormons dominate multi-level marketing companies - https://religionnews.com/2017/06/20/10-reasons-mormons-dominate-multi-level-marketing-companies/
Coffeezilla and Fake Gurus - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFQMnBA3CS502aghlcr0_aw
Womanhood : The Highest Place of Honor by: James E Faust - https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/2000/04/womanhood-the-highest-place-of-honor?lang=eng
Meet The Mormons - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iS6PZh6tCC0
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRS
How can you help?
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The final part of Cat Dean's story comes to a close as we chat about the scary financial side of navigating an MLM, what to do when it's tax time, how to get yourself out a the hole you dug, and ways to start rebuilding your credit and savings. While Cat is not a professional financial advisor, she does offer a lot of good basic info that most MLM's conveniently leave out of the equation. Take what she has to say and apply it if it works for you!
Show Notes:
Follow Cat on IG! https://www.instagram.com/debtfreewithcattitude/
Connect with Cat! https://go.oncehub.com/CatherineDean
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRS
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
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I am beyond excited to share this bonus episode with you, because not only do I get to chat with my friend and fellow Anti-MLM warrior, but we're talking about my current obsession, Ponzinomics : The Untold Story of Multi-Level Marketing. And who better to discuss this with, other than Savy Leiser, our gay aunt from the 80's, Small Business Babe and creator of Savy Writes Books on YouTube! After finishing Robert's book, I knew there was only one person (besides him) that could do this review justice and I am so thankful she agreed! I can't wait to have her back!
Show Notes
Meet Savy! http://www.savyleiser.com/
Savy Writes Books : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9WShNx2HsXRGjj9F593HzA
Furever Home Friends : https://fureverhomefriends.com/
VOTE for Savy and FHF! : https://smallbusinessgrant.fedex.com/entry/W2vFJVklVT
Savy's Ponzinomics Review with The Anti Bot
Part 1 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTsFCxP3aNc
Part 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAhFCAgkTCo
Uncle Rico sells NuPont Fiber Woven Bowls : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsKRlVwXThU
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRS
How can you help?
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After wanting to take responsibility for her finances, and become financially literate, Cat Dean realized her MLM was hemorrhaging her cash flow. Armed with this new knowledge, she decided to learn how to manage debt, become "financially free" without the cult of MLM, and help others leaving these businesses with their long term money goals as well. Stay tuned for Part 2!
Show Notes:
Follow Cat on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/debtfreewithcattitude/
Follow Cat on TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@lifewithcattitude
Book Cat's Services - https://go.oncehub.com/CatherineDean
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRS
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
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In our very first bonus episode, we talk with Haley O'Bryan, a therapist with a masters in counseling, a wide range of interest in social justic topics, and who did her masters theis on "Counseling Considerations for Clients with Experience in Multi-Level Marketing Companies and Similar Groups". Haley offers valuable insight into the harmful culture of MLM, the issues that come along with joining them and the importance of finding supportive treatment when leaving these cults.
Show Notes!
Follow Haley on Instagram! - https://www.instagram.com/counselorhaley/
Haley's Masters Thesis; "Counseling Considerations for Clients with Experience in Multi-Level Marketing Companies and Similar Groups" - https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XT93C53xxhwJLQelMezcVfa-7bPjSMLU/view
Josie Naikoi "Not The Good Girl" - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4DMThX0F-h6F1nzCbp6shw
Psychology Today - https://www.psychologytoday.com/us
Free Therapy Resources - https://www.purewow.com/wellness/free-therapy-resources
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRS
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
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In our 4th episode of Life After MLM, we finish Katie's story about her time in LuLaRoe. She walks us though her refund process, the 100% buyback drama, the deep feelings of guilt she experienced when leaving MLM and the resulting mental health journey she had to take to find herself again. In Katie's speaking out, she finds the cathartic release and the resulting validation when people begin to respond to her shared experience.
Show Notes:
Check out our Instagram feed @lifeaftermlmpodcast for Katie's Show Notes post to see all the pictures and things we talk about!
Mark Stidham, owner of LuLaRoe addressing upset consultants, telling them the "suck it up" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZp8dEYLko0
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRS
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
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In the 3rd episode of Life After MLM, I talk to Katie Kastner, a special educator and freelance writer from the Midwest. Katie was in LuLaRoe at the same time I was, experienced eerily similar things, but saw "the rot" way before I could. Katie decided to leave LuLaRoe and speak out in print media, writing a scathing personal expose about her time in the cult.
My conversation with Katie ran the gamete from relatable moldy leggings experiences, to her difficult mental health journey processing how MLM affected her and the aftermath of LuLaRoe and the Anti-MLM movement.
This is part one.
Show Notes
Check out Katie's life after MLM here : https://www.katiekastner.com/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRS
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
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In our second episode, I chat with Jessica Underwood-James, a professional aesthetician and makeup artist from the Mississippi Gulf Coast. After being in 3 different MLM's, she realized that this industry was much darker than it appeared from the outside. Now an Anti-MLM Advocate, Jess helps educate people on the dangers associated with Multi-Level Marketing.
Don't forget to listen to her new Anti_MLM podcast at https://anchor.fm/jessmua
Follow her on her social media channels at linktr.ee/JessMUA
Check out all the photos we mention on our SHOW NOTES post on our IG @lifeaftermlmpodcast
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRS
How can you help?
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In our very first episode of Life After MLM, I share my own story in Multi Level Marketing, the rise and fall of LuLaRoe from an inside perspective, and what's next for the Anti-MLM Movement.
Show Notes
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRS
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
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