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Season 2, Episode 8: Sonia De Los Santos and Auguste Renoir’s “Young Spanish Woman with a Guitar” May 31, 2022

Guitarist Sonia De Los Santos hails from Mexico, where as a child she was exposed to different musical influences. In Auguste Renoir’s “Young Spanish Woman with a Guitar,” De Los Santos sees echoes of her younger self. Her song “Sueña” is an ode to dreams.

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Image credit: Auguste Renoir, “Young Spanish Woman with a Guitar” (detail), 1898, oil on canvas, National Gallery of Art, Washington, Ailsa Mellon Bruce Collection, 1970.17.76

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Season 2, Episode 7: Maria Schneider and George Bellows’s “The Lone Tenement” May 17, 2022

Maria Schneider composed “Bulería, Soleá y Rumba” in the wake of a cancer diagnosis. Inspired by American artists such as Robert Henri and George Bellows, Schneider discusses “art for life’s sake” that tells a story of people—like the evocative figures in Bellows’s The Lone Tenement.

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Image credit: George Bellows, "The Lone Tenement," (detail) 1909, oil on canvas, National Gallery of Art, Washington, Chester Dale Collection, 1963.10.83

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Season 2: Episode 6: Delfeayo Marsalis and Hawkins Bolden’s “Untitled” May 03, 2022

This work reminds jazz trombonist Delfeayo Marsalis of the proud, hard-working generations that raised him. A history of struggle may suggest the minor key, but Marsalis ultimately chose upbeat music to celebrate those who fought and made it work.

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Image credit: Hawkins Bolden, Untitled, 1980/1987, shovel head, garden hose, and wire, National Gallery of Art, Washington, Patrons’ Permanent Fund and Gift of the Souls Grown Deep Foundation, 2020.28.10

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Season 2: Episode 5: Peter Sheppard Skærved and Hieronymus Bosch’s “Death and the Miser” Apr 19, 2022

Violinist Peter Sheppard Skærved and National Gallery director Kaywin Feldman discuss Hieronymus Bosch’s “Death and the Miser” and its symbolism of contrast: light and dark, life and death. Skærved plays a 17th-century violin sonatina that echoes similar contrasts of sensuality and fatality, beauty and mortality.

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Image credit: Hieronymus Bosch, Death and the Miser (detail), c. 1485/1490, oil on panel, National Gallery of Art, Washington, Samuel H. Kress Collection, 1952.5.33

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Season 2, Episode 4: Daniel Ho and Thomas Cole’s Voyage of Life series Apr 05, 2022

Musician Daniel Ho spent much of his childhood on the water, so he relates to Thomas Cole’s river paintings. Ho responds to Voyage of Life with an original suite. Starting with simple harmonies to represent childhood, he gradually introduces complexity.

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Image credit: Thomas Cole, The Voyage of Life: Childhood, 1842, oil on canvas, National Gallery of Art, Washington, Ailsa Mellon Bruce Fund, 1971.16.1

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Season 2, Episode 3: Sa-Roc and Margaret Burroughs’s Sleeping Boy Mar 22, 2022

Rapper Sa-Roc’s music speaks to different aspects of Black experience, including the vulnerability of many Black kids—similar to the boy in Margaret Burroughs’s linocut, who hides himself. Her song “Forever” invites listeners not to hide, but to shine and share their “inner light” with the world.

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Image credit: Margaret Burroughs, Sleeping Boy (also known as Mexican Boy) (detail), 1953, linocut, National Gallery of Art, Washington, Florian Carr Fund and Gift of the Print Research Foundation, 2008.115.28

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Season 2: Episode 2: Jenny Scheinman and El Greco’s “Laocoön” Mar 08, 2022

In “Sand Dipper,” jazz violinist Jenny Scheinman creates an abstract and overwhelming world. This music, Scheinman says, sounds how El Greco’s painting looks. And it feels like the question on Laocoön’s face as he looks up for the last time.

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Image credit: El Greco (Domenikos Theotokopoulos), Laocoön, c. 1610/1614, oil on canvas, National Gallery of Art, Washington, Samuel H. Kress Collection, 1946.18.1

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Season 2: Episode 1: Dom Flemons and Marc Chagall’s “Orphée” Feb 22, 2022

Orphée depicts many tragedies, but songwriter Dom Flemons finds the joy in it: it resolves in the beautiful scene of two lovers embracing. Flemons pairs it with the tranquil “Blue Butterfly.” The instrumental song helps the emotional weight sink in.

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Image credit: Marc Chagall, Orphée, 1969, stone and glass mosaic, National Gallery of Art, Washington, The John U. and Evelyn S. Nef Collection, 2011.60.104.1–10

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Bonus Episode: Episode 11: Celeste Headlee and James Van Der Zee’s “Couple, Harlem” Nov 23, 2021

In this photograph, journalist and musician Celeste Headlee hears “Lenox Avenue,” a suite her grandfather William Grant Still named after Harlem’s main street. This portrait captures the pride of Black Americans achieving success during the Harlem Renaissance despite systemic injustice. Find full transcripts and more information about this episode at https://www.nga.gov/music-programs/podcasts.html.

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Season 1: Episode 2: Daniel Bernard Roumain and "American Gothic" Oct 27, 2021

Composer Daniel Bernard Roumain sees pain, legacy, and enduring hope in this famous photograph of Ella Watson, one of many by Gordon Parks. Performance poet Lady Caress describes it as “the physical form of stolen expectations.” Together, they respond to the iconic photograph with a combination of music and poetry. In the ebb and flow of his composition, DBR hopes to capture the rhythm of Watson’s life—an elegy for someone he longs to have known.

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Season 1: Episode 1: Lara Downes and "Tomorrow I May Be Far Away" Oct 27, 2021

Art meets us where we are. For classical pianist and activist Lara Downes, Romare Bearden’s collage parallels her own life and family story: a puzzle full of questions and unfinished business. On her journey inside Bearden’s work, Downes travels backward to explore Black memory. In response to the collage, she brings together different musical sources, overlaying sounds that sit together comfortably at times and create tension at others, giving them the freedom to coexist.

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Season 1: "Sound Thoughts on Art" trailer Oct 27, 2021

The arts can engage all our senses, but it’s in the crossover between them that things really get interesting. When we listen to music, what do we see in our mind’s eye? When we look at a work of art, what do we hear? Sound Thoughts on Art, a new podcast from the National Gallery of Art, explores the intersection of sight and sound.

Hosted by musician and journalist Celeste Headlee, each episode focuses on a work of art in the National Gallery’s collection. Learn about the work and its context and hear a musician respond to that work through sound, creating a dialogue between visual art and music. Sound Thoughts on Art tells the stories of how we experience art and how it connects us.

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Season 1: Episode 7: Vijay Iyer and I.M. Pei’s “National Gallery of Art, East Building” Oct 27, 2021

Composer-pianist Vijay Iyer describes the East Building as a work of art that does what music does: invites you in—to inhabit, explore, and be among others. He responds with pieces that balance pattern and structure with leaving room to wander.

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Season 1: Episode 3: Bora Yoon and "Ommah" Oct 27, 2021

Nam June Paik used Ommah, Korean for “mother,” as the title of his final video sculpture. For composer and multi-instrumentalist Bora Yoon, this evokes the mother tongue and the motherland. Through the concept of cultural blood memory, Yoon explores whether we carry the sounds and memories of our people within us. She responds to Paik’s work by bringing together traditional Korean instruments and her own eclectic electronic music.

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Season 1: Episode 5: Kamala Sankaram and Mark Rothko’s “Untitled” Oct 27, 2021

When her sister was dying, composer Kamala Sankaram was drawn to Mark Rothko’s painting: it both captured her grief and calmed her. That experience influenced Sankaram’s approach to creating a musical score, which she shares in this episode.

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Season 1: Episode 4: Jasiri X and Kerry James Marshall’s “Untitled (Man)” Oct 27, 2021

Hip-hop artist Jasiri X looks at Kerry James Marshall’s woodcut almost like he’s looking into a mirror. It captures the experience of a Black man: resilient but restrained from being his authentic self. Jasiri responds to the work through two songs that reflect on his internal struggle.

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Season 1: Episode 6: Emily Wells and David Wojnarowicz’s “Untitled (Falling Buffalos)” Oct 27, 2021

Composer/producer Emily Wells sees us as the buffalo: frozen before downfall, but still alive—which is why she includes so much breath in her song. Wells, whose work deals with the climate crisis, looks to David Wojnarowicz’s AIDS activism for lessons.

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Season 1: Episode 8: Rafiq Bhatia and James Turrell’s “New Light” Oct 27, 2021

Musician Rafiq Bhatia feels compelled to capture his improvisations—fleeting moments of sound—in recordings. Like sound, light is transient. But James Turrell’s works, which inspired Bhatia’s composition, contain and present light, allowing us to forge a deeper relationship with an ephemeral substance.

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Season 1: Episode 9: Nathalie Joachim and Carrie Mae Weems’s “May Flowers” Oct 27, 2021

Composer Nathalie Joachim sees her childhood memories in May Flowers. The photograph also evokes the uniquely spiritual experience of recording a church choir in her family’s Haitian village. Joachim has lovingly woven their song into her composition.

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Season 1: Episode 10: Christian McBride and Roy DeCarava’s “David” Oct 27, 2021

In an improvised musical conversation, jazz bassist Christian McBride introduces himself to David. Connecting over McBride’s walking bass line, they meet David’s friends, splash by the fire hydrant, play stickball. Through David, McBride recalls his own childlike innocence.

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