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    Killed by Desk

    Have you ever wondered what the weirdos behind your favorite records are doing when they’re not losing money in punk rock? Whether they are pushing pencils, tending bar or running corporations, we’re having sincere yet totally stupid conversations on how they’ve managed to make a living and advance their scams into careers (or something like it) among the squares. Join us as we aim to find out how punks pay their bills and what they’ve learned along the way. New episodes every Tuesday.

    Theme song by M.O.T.O. Logo by Chuck Loose. Intro by Rev. Norb.

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    79 Arthur Shepherd Bar/Venue Owner ( Mind Over Matter - Errortype:Eleven - Primitive Weapons - Wreck Age Records) Apr 12, 2022
    Show notes

    This week’s guest dreamed of having a bar where his favorite bands could play, and he made it happen beyond anyone’s expectations. Saint Vitus in Greenpoint, Brooklyn is not only a popular neighborhood bar, it hosts bands that no other club their size would ever manage to land. In our interview, we talk about Arty's teen years as a metalhead on Long Island, seeing the world in iconic hardcore bands like Mind Over Matter, and what led him to become the proprietor of multiple venues in NYC. We’re ending this series on a high note, so enjoy this episode, and maybe we’ll see you again in the future. Thanks to all of our listeners for a great run. For Full Length Episodes And Merchandise Go To https://www.patreon.com/killedbydesk Follow: Killed By Desk Insta: @killedbydeskpodcast Twitter: @killedbydesk Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/killedbydesk LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/killedbydesk Links: St Vitus https://www.saintvitusbar.com/ Wreck Age https://wreck-age.com/pages/about-us Arty’s Discogs https://www.discogs.com/artist/966759-Arthur-Shepherd Chaminade https://www.chaminade-hs.org/ Mind Over Matter https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrlUIgipwM8 Bad Trip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrXa6t_YOH8 World’s Fastest Car https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXpzp-_9znU Silent Majority https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gz3rEJ9xIuU Double G https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hp-Umd720IQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBur04kodBI Limelight https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1Ntoy-RKdY Ironclads https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BREc1zKLyY


    78 John Sex Bomb - Tax Accountant ( Seizure ) Apr 05, 2022
    Show notes

    We discover the seedly underbelly of corporate America through everyone’s favorite punk rock accountant, John Sex Bomb! We also talk about Connecticut’s premier punk/hardcore club The Anthrax, why sales tax is so damn complicated and all that you ever wanted to know about acclaimed northeast grocery chain Stew Leonard’s. Check it out! For Full Length Episodes And Merchandise Go To https://www.patreon.com/killedbydesk Follow: Killed By Desk Insta: @killedbydeskpodcast Twitter: @killedbydesk Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/killedbydesk LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/killedbydesk Links: Seizure https://www.discogs.com/artist/85697-Seizure https://youtu.be/DGV8b06Ls6k Dumpster Dive Zine https://thumbs.worthpoint.com/zoom/images1/1/0211/28/dumpster-dive-ct-hardcore-punk-zine_1_3b110f72b41cf750402f6c8471dc8ba0.jpg Auditors https://youtu.be/S6tRjimpJe4 Brooks Brothers https://youtu.be/STC4qVm52Ew NYC Sales Tax Code https://portal.311.nyc.gov/article/?kanumber=KA-01675 American Machine and Foundry https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Machine_and_Foundry https://youtu.be/Ag6pqy0-lKs Anthrax Club https://youtu.be/ybw_ffqDfHY Wetsons https://youtu.be/nNvxNkm7avg Caldor https://youtu.be/wKXoRukX-XQ Cheetah Chrome https://youtu.be/qXQAbN_97fI Jayne County https://youtu.be/9ELPk8O28d4 Stu Leonard's https://youtu.be/xetLMdbA87I


    77 Sascha Altman DuBrul - Mental Health Coach / Social Worker / Writer ( Choking Victim ) Mar 29, 2022
    Show notes

    Links:

    Sascha's Practice
    https://www.saschadubrul.com/

    IDHA Training Program
    https://www.idha-nyc.org/

    Sascha Links
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sascha_Altman_DuBrul
    https://www.mapstotheotherside.net/
    https://www.discogs.com/artist/966825-Sascha-Dubrul

    Maps to the Other Side
    https://microcosmpublishing.com/catalog/books/3648/

    Navigating brilliance and madness: Sascha Altman DuBrul at TEDxHunterCCS
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7Tep6m9wRI

    Anarchist Switchboard
    https://signs-of-life-nyc.blogspot.com/2013/02/flier-from-anarchist-switchboard-1988.html

    C Squat
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8qvcjaGsbE

    Institutionalized
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoF_a0-7xVQ

    Icarus Project
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icarus_Project

    Slug & Lettuce
    http://slugandlettuce.net/
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slug_and_Lettuce_(fanzine)

    AC Thompson
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8g3UWNmdms

    Food Not Bombs
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADbiypS9Ot4

    Fireweed Collective
    https://fireweedcollective.org/

    Hearing Voices Network
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBq2FfgHMgQ

    Lipstick Traces
    https://www.amazon.com/Lipstick-Traces-History-Twentieth-Anniversary/dp/0674034805

    Steven Banks
    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/02/magazine/steven-banks-homelessness.html

    Pete Earley
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dom_pBkgCL4
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQpdqBF1fTs

    Issa Ibrahim
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOMMHm9SKPM

    No Commercial Value
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sk2wlQsksPM

    San Loco
    https://www.sanloco.com/menu

    IFS Therapy
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdzH2YRmv6Y


    76 Steve Karp - BIM Coordinator / Draftsman ( Yuppicide / 100 Demons ) Mar 22, 2022
    Show notes

    Guest Steve Karp helps us get to the bottom of BIM (Business Information Modeling), and what exactly he does in the construction process. In addition to BIM, we talk about art and illustration, the laws and legality of tattooing in CT and NYC, interning at Marvel Comics and a whole lot more. Steve’s hilarious takes on the hardcore scene, his time in Yuppicide and making ends meet as a ‘professional’ without resorting to violence are priceless. Check it out! For Full Length Episodes And Merchandise Go To https://www.patreon.com/killedbydesk Follow: Killed By Desk Insta: @killedbydeskpodcast Twitter: @killedbydesk Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/killedbydesk LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/killedbydesk Links: Discogs https://www.discogs.com/artist/929517-Steve-Karp Yuppicide https://youtu.be/WbKEYYGAcAw?t=1018 100 Demons https://youtu.be/mKHH45uLtiU?t=226 What is Building Information Modeling? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suNadRnHy-U https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CxshQK0C5A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ULPY3B2BoQ Amish Drafting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=re-HPOYtTio SFA Live (Pratt Alums) https://youtu.be/g_dW1BXERJE?t=19 Yuppicide Shirt Example https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/A7gAAOSwrgFehdw8/s-l500.jpg Rejuvenate Art Evolution https://photos.app.goo.gl/4beJpdhjiqsVwD2T7 Squat or Rot Flyer https://nypunkandhardcore.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/squatrot3.jpg EC Comics https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pu6b5ZRAAfQ Shockley https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBkFccfsr8A SPI Games https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNDe_JDew1E Tattooing in NYC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhBtvHHmvXQ Zack Judson of Puzzlehead / Product 19 https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1572294/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1


    75 John Woods - Movie Theater Programming Director ( Hell No - Hot Poop Zine ) Mar 15, 2022
    Show notes

    You may know this week’s guest from his band, Hell No, but even if you aren’t a hardcore punk rock fan, you may know him from his legendary video store Reel Life Video, which existed on Bedford Avenue in Williamsburg well before the boutiques and luxury apartments. John later went on to co-found Nitehawk Cinema, where he still works as director of programming and acquisitions. In our conversation we dork out about music, movies and dive into the intricacies of making his dream of a movie theater that serves high-quality food and drinks a reality. It’s more complicated than you think, but John’s approach and attitude helped make for one of the coolest theaters in the world. Check it out! For Full Length Episodes And Merchandise Go To https://www.patreon.com/killedbydesk Follow: Killed By Desk Insta: @killedbydeskpodcast Twitter: @killedbydesk Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/killedbydesk LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/killedbydesk Links: Nitehawk Cinema https://nitehawkcinema.com/williamsburg/about/ https://nitehawkcinema.com/ Hell No https://www.discogs.com/artist/395630-Hell-No https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEn-mVMg19o https://youtu.be/C7G7U0_p_jQ?t=1942 Matthew Viragh https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_Lk4DDkB-I Bruce Goldstein https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mU85gkFXGw 80 Blocks From Tiffany’s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71yLEfRpsKo Rich Trash https://youtu.be/5SoPWqSEe_c?t=22 Unsane https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rW5VAwn3vI Kims Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMv4v3xvqIg It’s Gonna Blow https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--FTU73CoUk&list=PLPcW9BedSKxmKulAgllDwcIq7gcY7ID1F Spencer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lagauhb5GyY Cocksucker Blues https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Op_TR2mdzhw Video Music Box https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xiz8sixXNLo Crispin Glover Movie Trailer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhtaI7SCvq0 Ultimate Revenge https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5jLEyiotec Cannibal Holocaust https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_o8VKf8WsMk Raw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFlXVX2af_Y New Breed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TN1QHb_OQ0 What Awaits Us https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEHTJk6USGI Rye Coalition https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWc7c3xyoOA Velvet Goldmine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRY9K78uDRs


    74 Alice Bag and Greg Velasquez - Retirees ( The Bags / L.A. Punk Scene ) Mar 08, 2022
    Show notes

    n addition to being integral parts of the early Los Angeles punk rock scene, Alice and Greg also had successful careers - Alice as a school teacher and writer and Greg as a hospitality executive and photographer. But our area of focus in this episode is what happened when they decided to retire, and realized they didn’t have the money to do it in California. Not only did they decide to move to Mexico City, they also made the decision to document the process for all to see. We talk about the challenges, exciting developments, lifehacks learned from punk rock and how they’ve used social media to share it all. For Full Length Episodes And Merchandise Go To https://www.patreon.com/killedbydesk Follow: Killed By Desk Insta: @killedbydeskpodcast Twitter: @killedbydesk Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/killedbydesk LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/killedbydesk Links: Alice and Greg Youtube Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQWPMxahEhAFq8jN3k_O_Zw https://www.instagram.com/aliceandgregmx/ Alice Discogs https://www.discogs.com/artist/629400-Alice-Bag Greg Discogs https://www.discogs.com/artist/6161796-Greg-Velasquez-2?type=Credits&subtype=Visual&filter_anv=0 https://muckrack.com/luxehotelier ALICE BAG - AVIÉNTATE YA (New Single) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrJ7JtyhQdw Alice Bag - Se Cree Joven (Official Music Video) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rHUXT6vyck La VERDADERA Casa De Las Brujas/No Vengas, Mira Esto... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKjaZgQkyPU Fanny - Right to Rock https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zspd9hFRtkw Subele, by Alice Bag, her Punk band and feat. Belinda Carlisle at a secret show in Mexico city https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72dsTG49te0 Pastry War https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u06pvB4vBkk Mallomars https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xpfi0f1KXqw Drew Sands of Trap Girl https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atATtW4-ej0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPiGq0-waZo Lucille Norman https://www.kcet.org/shows/artbound/the-women-of-regeneracion-an-incredible-history-of-organizing-defying-and-empowering


    73 Milo Aukerman - Research Scientist / Musician ( Descendents ) Mar 01, 2022
    Show notes

    This week we’re excited to share the professional story of one of punk rock’s most famous working stiffs, Milo Aukerman! From the moment he went to college to his subsequent career and the reformation of Descendents in the 90s, punks around the world have known that Milo left music to pursue a career as a scientist, but not much else. In this episode, we dive into his career as a molecular biologist, his areas of specialty, what drew him to science and his recent retirement to focus on music. Lots of laughs as we discuss finally becoming a ‘professional’ musician in your fifties, studying dirt vs. corn, and why science themes didn’t figure more prominently in Descendents songs. So break out the bonus cup and enjoy! For Full Length Episodes And Merchandise Go To https://www.patreon.com/killedbydesk Follow: Killed By Desk Insta: @killedbydeskpodcast Twitter: @killedbydesk Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/killedbydesk LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/killedbydesk Links: Milo’s Research https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=milo+aukerman+research&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart https://www.asbmb.org/asbmb-today/people/090114/a-champion-of-the-nerds Descendants Live - Making it look effortless https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeRX9NfpooA Norman Bourlang https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lg9-HTtgFOk Fritz Haber - The Bill Cosby of Agriculture https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdEE5uvFhOM https://www.bbc.com/news/world-13015210 Neo-Malthusianism https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAkW_i0bDpQ CRISPR https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YKFw2KZA5o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaSvN6WZSjc Daniel “Bug” Snow - Roadie of Roadies https://www.flickr.com/photos/34958432@N05/6116272687 Bananas (not the band) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhPEErJnErU Lysenko https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvt2Zo6WIkk EO Wilson https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cSgSOm7WTg Wilson Vs Lewontin https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF00127089 Put a penny in it https://youtu.be/0a2lv4IwZFY?t=157 https://youtu.be/oIUtq0GZ1Z8?t=120 9th and Walnut https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0dF2ikZbgQ


    72 Michael Lucas & Marie Davenport - Beer Distributors ( Phantom Surfers / The Bananas ) Feb 22, 2022
    Show notes

    Links:

    Lime Ventures

    https://www.lvbev.com/

    Marie

    https://www.discogs.com/artist/4155517-Marie-Davenport

    Mike

    https://www.discogs.com/artist/923777-Mike-Lucas-2?type=Credits&filter_anv=0

    The Bananas

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHCfJ07Hi_0

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4FEW8mSZrM

    Phantom Surfers

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Da7Y9KQOP2M

    Knights of the New Crusade

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boBWwthGEjA

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiqGcxGFRhU&t=615s

    Hiroshi Hasegawa's Poontang Wranglers

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ML5IXi4N5fI

    Blood Orgy of the Leather Girls

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvgYnJ3EUBI

    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0131978/reference

    https://www.discogs.com/release/2743628-Various-Blood-Orgy-Of-The-Leather-Girls

    Street Trash Trailer and Short

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ryg9KYXXq0U

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_u2fnh7lgQ

    More Fatty Arbuckle

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZwC7vzO5Zg

    Rudos and Rubes Publishing

    http://rudosandrubes.com/

    Devil Born Without Horns - Novel

    https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/2202431

    Rock Stardom for Dumb Shits

    https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/7100262-rock-stardom-for-dumbshits?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=LgttCBEYjS&rank=1

    Hank Rank and Crime

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FW2bQNVdVaI

    Gore Gazette

    https://www.j4hi.com/page15/Best%20of%20GORE-GAZETTE-page1.html

    https://thebedlamfiles.com/commentary/remembering-rick-sullivan-and-the-gore-gazette/

    Montreal Smoked Bagels

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHluEdv71no

    Maple Syrup Heist

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puPbZ3VDnh0

    Virtual SOD

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuNLtqxDGUI

    Trappist Bar - Chuck from Gangreen

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35oMwHRSdps

    Dee Dee Ramone’s Grave Ducks

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhnU4UNKqNg

    Titus Oates Popish Plot

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AGlS68CQn0

    Neat Neat Neat

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--erJSsmraY

    John Wesley Hart

    https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/john-wesley-hardin-is-pardoned#:~:text=Infamous%20gunslinger%20John%20Wesley%20Hardin,year%20stretch%20beginning%20in%201868.

    Asses in the bible

    https://bible.knowing-jesus.com/words/Ass~s


    71 Deniz Tek - Doctor / Flight Surgeon / Coffee Farmer ( Radio Birdman / New Race / The Visitors ) Feb 15, 2022
    Show notes

    In the pantheon of badassery in punk rock, no one has a lead on Deniz Tek. In addition to helping to bring Detroit-style rock ‘n roll to Australia and then to the world with Radio Birdman and playing with some of those Detroit legends in New Race, Deniz became an emergency room surgeon, then a navy pilot and flight surgeon and finally a Kona coffee farmer in Hawaii. We talk about it all, from his early years working at an auto plant in Michigan to his current music with James Williamson of the Stooges, an upcoming reissue of the New Race LP and how he’s still learning new things and taking on new challenges. Yeah hup! For Full Length Episodes And Merchandise Go To https://www.patreon.com/killedbydesk Follow: Killed By Desk Insta: @killedbydeskpodcast Twitter: @killedbydesk Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/killedbydesk LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/killedbydesk Links: Deniz’s website https://www.deniztek.com/ TEKONA Coffee https://www.tekonacoffee.com/ Deniz Discogs https://www.discogs.com/artist/258125-Deniz-Tek https://www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2016/feb/23/cult-heroes-deniz-tek-radio-birdman-punk-rock-australia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Birdman Bill’s disaster at sea reading list https://www.goodreads.com/review/list/862342-bill-florio?ref=nav_mybooks&shelf=disaster-at-sea Kona Coffee https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kona_coffee https://www.bizjournals.com/pacific/stories/1999/01/04/story1.html Pepsi Kona https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOM5i1amTKg Olive Oil Police https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFSaj9RRzGE Easybeats https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnqxbdnzlhw Michael Banzai Ramos https://www.reviewjournal.com/uncategorized/pilot-lands-home/attachment/commercial-pilot-michael-banzai-ramos-calls-mira-villa-a-luxury-condominium-community-in-summerlin-home-he-purchased-the-cielo-floor-plan-one-of-the-few-top-floor-units-not-price/ Mort Stevens https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s499hbtwUEs&list=PLDkPmVsDCFndWsJKC024MsUxf2RZhmD3L Aloha Steve https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkKiZ9VSD6U


    70 Ben Blackwell - Record Label Stooge / Music Archivist ( Dirtbombs ) Feb 08, 2022
    Show notes

    You’ve pretty much got it made when part of your day job involves comparing the sound of different pressings of Stooges records, and we talk to Ben Blackwell about how he came to co-found Third Man Records with Jack White, become the official archivist for all of the music / ephemera of the White Stripes and help expand the label into record stores, a pressing plant and a global brand. We cover it all, from his teen years getting into music to his years playing with the Dirtbombs and his move to Nashville, starting a family and balancing the rock ‘n roll with more responsibility than you’d think. For Full Length Episodes And Merchandise Go To https://www.patreon.com/killedbydesk Follow: Killed By Desk Insta: @killedbydeskpodcast Twitter: @killedbydesk Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/killedbydesk LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/killedbydesk Links: Third Man https://thirdmanrecords.com/ Ben Discogs https://www.discogs.com/artist/868312-Ben-Blackwell The Third Man https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9yyDEDGlr0 Dirtys https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Id99U9TZ8dw Teengenerate - Not Reunion https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ca9Gy3z0G0I Christopher Lowell https://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/the-christopher-lowell-show/2861367 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoElmgljXZw United Records https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rx7VEkf1xfQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8nzLCW7xRw Emperors of Chocolate https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/71619 Porkys Prime Cuts https://www.soundandvision.com/content/porkys-prime-cuts Steven Colbert https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmKVIDMMYDA


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