Deep Cover: The Real Donnie Brasco

Reality vs. Fiction Part 4, B.T.S. of Donnie Brasco Jan 17, 2023

On this season finale of Deep Cover, Joe and Leo deep dive into your final movie questions to reveal fiction from fact. Joe shares more of Donnie Brasco’s day-to-day life, particularly from the last impactful moments with Sonny Black and Lefty Ruggiero. From the Japanese Steakhouse fight to the thwarted hit by Donnie the made man– what was a true story and what was fabricated by the brilliant Paul Attanasio? Listen to learn more and stay tuned at the end to hear what’s in store for the forthcoming season!

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Episode Notes:

[00:00] Introduction with Joe and Leo

[02:09] Movie clip: Don the Jeweler

[03:20] Joe shares how he knew so much in real life about diamonds during his first meet with Lefty Ruggiero

[06:40] Joe’s Cadillac and blending in as broke

[10:32] Movie clip: He says it’s a fugazi.

[12:00] Joe shares the seeds of the fake diamonds scene.

[15:16] Movie clip: This is Lefty’s car

[16:19] Movie clip: Donnie Brasco fights a DA at the airport to save his cover

[17:45] Joe shares the truth about the shocking encounter

[19:06] Movie clip: Lefty hates the cold

[20:57] Joe details what really happened with the air conditioner debate

[24:54] Movie clip: Donnie refuses to take off his shoes

[26:11] Joe sets the record straight about the Japanese Steakhouse fight

[28:09] Movie clip: “You think I’m a f******g rat?”

[29:56] The federal boat and dramatic licensing byway of Paul Attanasio

[33:33] Truth or false: the ending of the movie Deep Cover

[35:15] True Story: FBI agents told Sonny Black and Lefty Ruggiero that Donnie Brasco was a cop

[37:40] Next season guests: Former undercover cop and beauty agent, Lisa Lockwood, Retired NYPD Ralph Friedman, former U.S. Customs Bob Starkman

[39:54] Happy New Year– until next time!

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Jules Interview - Joe's Handler & Donnie's Rabbi Jan 10, 2023

On this special episode of Deep Cover, Joe and Leo speak to former FBI boss, Jules Bonavolonta, who was Head of Organized Crime and Narcotics in New York during the Deep Cover investigation. Jules takes us down memory lane from the Vietnam War to his self-negotiations from the Army into the coveted federal agency.

But it’s really his untold stories about life-or-death moments with Joe Pistone, Lefty, Santo Trafficante, and the bureaucracy that will make you understand the severity of the undercover operation. Just how much trust and friendship played a major role in their success? You don’t want to miss this one.

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Episode Notes:

[00:00] Introducing guest, ex-FBI agent, Jules Bonavolonta

[02:00] The Garden State Trio: Bonavolonta, Leo and Joe.

[03:10] On Anthony Imperiale, former New Jersey state senator

[05:20] On using “dramatic licensing” with the truth for movies and tv

[06:50] On the reaction of family and friends after joining the FBI

[09:00] Why Bonavolonta threatened to leave the military during the Vietnam War and made it in the FBI

[19:20] How Bonavolonta met Joe Pisone while running the organized crime division

[21:15] What’s a successful organized crime? Jules speaks on monitoring Joe in the mafia

[24:52] Joe explains to Bonavolonta what he does all day with Sunny Black and Lefty

[27:10] Jules details how much Lefty trusted Joe up until his trial testimony

[29:09] Jules and Joe relive the moment the mafia gave Joe a contract to kill Bruno Indelicato

[33:55] The infamous argument between Jules and Joe prior to his meeting with Santo Trafficante

[41:55] When the mafia found out that Donnie Brasco is Joe Pistone– an open contract

[44:04] Jules can kill you with his hands

[47:00] Outro

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Reality vs. Fiction, Part 3 Jan 03, 2023

On this episode of Deep Cover, Leo Rossi walks Joe Pistone through a few more scenes of his Hollywood blockbuster, “Donnie Brasco.” Joe shares intimate details about real-life challenges with his wife, Maggie, while undercover, reveals the subtle brilliance of a scene between Donnie and Lefty, and other insights. He also shares some unrelated stories about the Sicilian Mafioso turned informant, Luigi Ronsisvalle, and a drug deal gone bad in Pensacola, Florida. This one’s full of suspense!

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Michael Franzese - Realities of the Mob and Life Dec 13, 2022

On this special episode of Deep Cover, Leo Rossi and Joe Pistone are joined by ex-Colombo crime mobster turned motivational speaker Michael Franzese. He shares his personal testimony about the ways in which “the life” negatively impacted him and his family. Son to the notorious former underboss, Sonny Franzese, Michael was not only born into the life but contributed for nearly 20 years prior to incarceration which prompted his uncharacteristic exit.

Michael and Joe met in their separate endeavors along the way and detailed the extent of their relationship then and now. Tune in for a true tale about the Mafia life from one of their very own.

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Episode Notes:[00:47] Intro with Leo Rossi and Joe Pistone

[01:07] Introduction to Michael Franzese

[03:09] Franzese speaks on his meeting with Salvatore "Sammy the Bull" Gravano

[05:00] Joe remembers his first time meeting Michael Franzese in “the life”

[06:32] Michael Franzese breaks down how he and his family were impacted by the mob life.

[09:04] Franzese shares the story of his father, Sonny Franzese, who was imprisoned until 100 years old.

[11:36] What defines a leader?

[12:35] Franzese, Joe, and Leo discuss the relationship between crime mob and cops

[15:03] Franzese shares his relationship with Bernard “Bernie” Welsh

[16:47] Sonny Black’s girlfriend relays a message to Joe post-trial

[18:14] Franzese gives Joe his flowers

[20:09] How did Carmine “Junior” Persico run the family from prison?

[23:22] Michael Franzese’s dad agreed with the mob's decision to put a contract on his son’s life

[24:37] Nicky “Glasses” Marangello has a message for Donnie

[26:52] Leo shares a story about Carlo Gambino and the new age of mobsters

[29:47] The old neighborhoods just aren’t the same

[31:26] Michael Franzese speaks on his recent book, “Mafia Democracy”

[35:02] Franzese shares the similarities between the government and the mob

[38:04] Franzese went into business with an Armenian vineyard

[40:00] Outro

[40:26] Questions from the motion lounge

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Reality vs. Fiction Part 2, Behind the Scenes of Donnie Brasco Dec 06, 2022

Joe Pistone and Leo Rossi continue with more behind-the-scenes insight about the Blockbuster movie based on Joe’s time in the mob, “Donnie Brasco.” Accompanying clips featuring Johnny Depp, Al Pacino, and others, Pistone shares more deets about his undercover experience and offers some loving words in memory of Anne Heche, the actress who portrayed his wife Maggie Pistone on screen. He even clarifies facts from fiction regarding that infamous wife slap! More, when you tune in to Deep Cover now.

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Episode Notes:

[00:00] Intro with Joe Pistone and Leo Rossi

[01:56] Joe visited the Mob Museum in Las Vegas

[03:04] Leo Rossi and Joe Pistone’s one-man-show about Donnie Braso

[03:27] How the movie designers recreated Sonny Black, Lefty and Nicky entering a disco nightclub

[07:45] Donnie Brasco gets caught by the cops; no permit for the lion

[10:29] On one-taker scenes that require precision

[12:30] How the bribed cop let everyone down; gambling operation at the club gone wrong.

[14:50] The arrest record of Donnie Brasco

[16:10] Meet us in the Motion Lounge

[17:27] The Boss, Carmine Galante, gets whacked

[20:31] Sonny Black becomes a Capo and Lefty gets nervous

[23:21] Paul Attansio, the screenwriter, continues to write accurate emotions for each character

[25:26] How does a hit get set up? Lefty, or Al Pacino, goes off on Donnie Brasco after being “sent for.”

[28:40] The truth about the $300,000 in cash and Joe Pistone remembers Anne Heche, the actress who portrayed his wife and best friend.

[29:07] Joe admits there was a time when he couldn’t turn ‘off’ his character, Donnie Brasco, in real life.

[33:05] Through Leo’s stage play, Joe’s family finally realized just how lonely the job was for him.

[34:50] 85% is true

[35:50] Maggie and Joe’s movie-stealing scenes: “Why do you hate me when I love you so much?” and “I’m not beginning like them, Maggie, I am them.” - the back story.

[36:44] When Lefty got saved from being whacked.

[37:50] Outro

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Reality vs. Fiction Part 1, Behind the Scenes of Donnie Brasco Nov 28, 2022

Joe Pistone and Leo Rossi review and discuss the most popular clips from the motion picture, “Donnie Brasco” based on Joe’s book about his time spent undercover in the mob.Joe clarifies a few of the most important contrasts between real life and dramatization and offers some new revelations about the infamous 1981 killing of 3 capos and a boss from the Bonanno Crime Family.We learn how Johnny Depp and others, mostly unknown actors at the time, got the role of a lifetime– including a childhood friend. And he answers a question from the Motion Lounge! Tune in.

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Twitter: @deepcoverpodcastEpisode Notes:[00:00:00] Intro with Joe Pistone and Leo Rossi

[00:01:07] Behind the scenes: “Donnie Brasco” the movie

[00:02:40] Fuhgeddaboudit aka “Forget about it!”

[00:07:30] The killing of the 3 Capos in the Bonanno Crime Family ("Phil Lucky," "Sonny Red" and “Big Trin”), starting with the boss, Carmine Gallente

[00:10:17] Dramatic license: Joe clarifies that he was not physically present during the whackings.

[00:11:31] The truth about Dominick "Big Trin" Trinchera, the actor George Angelica

[00:15:15] Sonny Red, Big Trin, and Phil Lucky discuss “Where is Bruno?”

[00:17:45] The infamous murder scene in “Donnie Brasco”

[00:20:06] On Jimmy Russo and Johnny Depp’s tense dialogue in the car

[00:23:09] “The meek wanna inherit the Earth…” Joe and Leo discuss the scriptwriter, Paul Attanasio.

[00:25:02] Unfortunately, it was just “family business.” Joe shares how the mob could effectively compartmentalize after a killing.

[00:28:35] Next time: More movie clips, Joe and Lefty Ruggerio.

[00:29:13] A question from The Motion Lounge

[00:30:32] Why did the mob whack so many people in restaurants?

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Tony Conti Exit Tapes - Lefty's Goose Chase Nov 22, 2022

The Tony Conti saga comes to an end. In this episode, Leo Rossi and Joe Pistone take us through several different tapes that meticulously details the quick, but life-threatening, downfall of Tony Conti (undercover FBI agent) following an incident with the Balistrieri family.

In Joe’s attempt to cover for his partner’s disappearance after being pulled from the investigation, Joe as Donnie Brasco takes a necessary and calculated trip to Milwaukee in search of the supposed wannabe wise guy. With Lefty Ruggiero hot on his trail, Donnie fabricates his findings. Then, the sobering event ends with an impromptu late-night meeting between the two and mob boss, Mike Sabella.

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Episode Notes:

[00:00] Intro with Leo Rossi and Joe Pistone

[01:08] TAPE: Where is Tony Conti? Joe dictates letter about Lefty Ruggiero and Tony’s meeting for Jules Bonavolonta of the FBI (10/10/1978 at 9:30pm)

[05:37] How was Conti in real life? Did he really have a relationship with three women?

[07:42] Everybody’s Joe

[08:37] Frank Balistrieri’s girlfriend was disrespected and Mike Sabella vouches for everyone

[12:42] At the heart of it all is greed: Balistrieri to Trafficante

[13:45] Conti beats the scam; disappears in Milwaukee

[15:32] Donnie offers Lefty $500 from a “score” or bet

[18:25] Lefty calls Donnie for a mysterious late night meet

[20:24] TAPE: Donnie and Lefty discuss the search for Tony Conti’s car in Milwaukee

[24:52] Lefty talks about a $7,000 contractor for a fast food restaurant

[27:17] TAPE: Donnie tells Lefty that Conti’s car is impounded by the cops

[30:44] Lefty Ruggiero does not play about his money

[33:26] TAPE: Donnie plants the idea that Tony Conti was whacked; Lefty pushes back

[38:44] TAPE: Lefty gives Donnie final search locations for Tony; tells him to make a restaurant reservation at 12am at night

[42:11] Joe Pistone says that dinner would later become a vital part of the investigation

[43:17] TAPE: Donnie presents Lefty with the potential car tag belonging to Tony Conti

[45:45] Lefty’s never asleep

[46:23] Joe Pistone explains how answering difficult questions can be life or death; sign off until next time

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The Milwaukee Tapes Nov 15, 2022

Following last week’s focus on the casino deal between Traficante, Sonny Black, and the Bonnano family– in this episode, stakes are raised even higher as Donnie Brasco finds himself in a bit of a pickle between in Milwaukee with Tony Conti and Lefty Ruggiero.

Joe takes us through several FBI tapes detailing the ins and outs of their biggest target on the Milwaukee crime scene: Frank Balistrieri, boss of the Milwaukee, Wisconsin family.

As Joe begins to fight an internal battle between family and work, we hear how he's at risk of creating distrust from Lefty Ruggiero as he continues to keep the many stories he's crafted and his real identity a secret as he continues to help the FBI collect evidence.

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Sonny Tapes, Traficante, and the Casino Nov 08, 2022

Leo Rossi and Joe Pistone deep dive into the relationship between Donnie and Sonny Black Napolitano. At a time when Sonny was attempting to push Lefty out of the conversation, we learn about the infamous club deal Donnie helped orchestrate between Traficante, Sonny, and the Bonanno Crime Family. Plus, get the full scope of just how far and wide this FBI investigation spread across the states.

All of season three we will be listening to the tapes that Joe carried undercover and were recently found and remastered. Joe Pistone, Leo Rossi, and you are hearing some of these for the first time. If you want more tapes and videos of the show, you can sign up to become a member of The Motion Lounge HERE.

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Episode Notes:

[00:50:00] Intro

[00:01:26] Episode Recap

[00:03:07] Rusty Rustelli

[00:06:25] Donny Brasco explains stark differences between Lefty and Sonny Black

[00:08:05] The Back Story & Benny: Promised Ones

[00:10:55] Setting the grounds for the club: an FBI location

[00:14:88] Donnie’s cash money and street cred

[00:17:05] “Friendship” with Sonny versus Lefty

[00:19:16] Donnie and Lefty’s incident with the air conditioner

[00:22:23] Arm wrestling with Sonny

[00:24:42] Donnie gets around, San Diego to Milwaukee

[00:26:33] Sonny and Lefty’s family

[00:28:50] Next tape: Sonny Black starts to push Lefty out

[00:33:41] John “Boobie” Cerasani

[00:34:33] Is Sonny’s crew still alive?

[00:35:43] Joe shares more about exposing the criminal enterprise

[00:37:27] Next tape: Donnie and Sonny are Ernie Borgnine in “Marty”

[00:39:44] Sonny Black and Nicky picks up Donnie from the airport

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Conclusion - Life and Death Phone Call with Lefty and Donnie, Part 2 Nov 01, 2022

In this conclusion to our two-part episode on the Lefty Tape, you will hear how Joe Pistone, as Donnie Brasco, talks his way out of a life-or-death situation with Left Ruggerio.

Listen to find out how Joe managed to not only save his skin but also kept his business running with the mob as the FBI built their case. It all ends with a sit down to find out if Joe lives or dies.

Numerous Mafia characters are mentioned and talked about in this episode including, The Bonannos and Trafficante families, Sonny Black, Tony Mira, Ceaser Bonventre, Frank Castellano, The Zips, and Mike Sabella.

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Key Moments:

[00:00:00] - Intro with Leo Rossi

[00:00:48] - Show recap

[00:01:28] - Joe Pistone and Leo Rossi recap the backstory between Lefty Ruggiero and Sonny Black

[00:02:49] - Lefty interrogates Donnie (Joe) about Rocky: “think like me”

[00:04:57] - Joe explains why he’s trying to save Rocky’s life

[00:07:50] - The battle for Miami with Sonny, the Bonannos and Trafficante

[00:09:46] - Lefty pressures Donnie (Joe) about letting Rocky in on the deal; and there’s another Tony

[00:13:23] - “America’s Guest” Lefty talks money and being ambushed in Brooklyn

[00:16:43] - What happened to Mike Sabella?

[00:17:40] - “Do you have anything hidden, Donnie?”

[00:19:05] - Leo’s Resume

[00:20:36] - Lefty’s Mysterious Man

[00:22:18] - The Demise of Cesare Bonventre

[00:25:07] - Frank DeCicco sets up Frank Castellano

[00:25:41] - Sonny Black’s crew

[00:27:24] - “I’m treating you like a friend.” Lefty blows up on Donnie Brasco

[00:30:07] - Who is The Gimp (Moe The Gimp)?

[00:31:31] - Tony Mirrar frustrates Lefty

[00:33:17] - Lefty almost gets whacked

[00:36:36] - Sonny’s Deal Gone Bad

[00:38:20] - The Hole in Mirrar’s Case

[00:40:10] - It Ends with a Sit-Down

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Life and Death Phone Call with Lefty Ruggerio and Donnie, Part 1 Oct 25, 2022

In this episode, you will hear the real life conversation between Lefty and Joe as Donnie faced a life-and-death situation as he dealt with accusations of theft from fellow mobster Tony Mirra.

Join co-hosts Leo Rossi and Joe Pistone as they dive into the first tape from Joe’s collection of undercover conversations. Hear from Lefty Ruggiero’s wife, as she urgently tries to contact Joe for Lefty, and then from Lefty himself as he questions Joe to find out the truth behind the accusations.

It’s high drama on this episode of Deep Cover: The Real Donnie Brasco! If you have questions about this episode or past episodes, you can ask them here by joining the Motion Lounge, where you can also listen to the full tape used in this episode.

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[00:01:30] - Introduction to Joe’s defense for his life

[00:02:18] - Louise Ruggiero’s (Lefty’s wife) concerned call to Joe about Lefty’s meeting; quick brief on Tony Mirra

[00:04:34] - Lefty’s call to Joe about Lefty’s meeting with Tony Mirra

[00:05:37] - Who is Rocky?

[00:06:52] - $250,000 accusation

[00:07:46] - Lefty probing for information

[00:09:36] - Joe explains the story he’s trying to sell

[00:11:45] - Junk money, Zips

[00:19:37] - Lefty continues to probe/explain, compares Tony Mirra’s and Donnie’s situation

[00:24:59] - Sally - head of the Bonanno family

[00:29:27] - Federal “Stool Pigeon”

[00:35:29] - Lefty and Tony Mirra’s bad blood

[00:39:00] - Lefty and Joe (Donnie) are in pinch, how will this play out in the next episode?

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Donnie's Tapes Oct 18, 2022

Leo Rossi and Joe Pistone are back with the third season! This season is called “Donnie’s Tapes." All season, Joe and Leo will be going over the actual tapes that Joe carried while undercover for six years with the mafia as Donnie Brasco.

The tapes were recently found by Joe and then remastered by Jam Street Media. In this episode, Joe talks about how he did the actual recordings, the technology then versus today, and how others were not as lucky as him with their undercover recordings over the years.

In this first episode of the season, you will hear a few of the tapes played "before and after" style to appreciate how much better they sound now. Buckle up, 'cause this season it’s all about the tapes on Deep Cover: The Real Donnie Brasco.

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Episode notes and links:

[00:00:00] - Season 3 introduction; I am Leo Rossi[00:01:40] - Leo and Joe Pistone are back!

[00:03:16] - Joe found additional tapes from his Mafia days

[00:04:44] - Old school ways agents secretly recorded conversations

[00:08:40] - Introduction to Jules, Joe’s sounding board

[00:10:20] - Speaks on the validity of two Donnie Brasco movie scenes

[00:11:35] - What you will hear and subscribers will see in the forthcoming season

[00:12:47] - Leo speaks on meeting Joe for the first time 25 years ago with a $500,000 hit on his life

[00:13:55] - What’s coming next? Meet Quinn, the next 2 episodes and a fun game.

[00:15:25] - Before and after #1 -- original tape audio vs remastered audio; "a great clean-up job"

[00:16:30] - Re-introducing Lefty Ruggiero

[00:18:10] - Do mob wives know who is in “the life”?

[00:18:39] - The backstory on Lefty and Joe’s heated conversation; re-introducing Tony Mirra (re-listen to "Donnie Brasco vs. Tony Mirra" from season 1 ) ; Michael Francis Interview with Joe

[00:20:20] - Before and after #2

[00:21:50] - Joe explains “the boat” and how Lefty identified it belonging to the FBI; Abscam

[00:25:42] - Before and after #3

[00:26:30] - Explanation of audio; Lefty at the club questioning Joe on details

[00:28:40] - The difference between Sonny Black and Lefty

[00:29:10] - Joe compares Al Pacino as Lefty compared to real-life Lefty

[00:30:30] - Join The Motion Lounge to go deeper!

[00:31:40] - Season 3 overview

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Season 3 Trailer Sep 30, 2022

Season 3 of Deep Cover will focus on the tapes Joseph D. Pistone recorded undercover as Donnie Brasco. Hear the voices of notorious mobsters, learn how "wiseguys" throw the English language around, and find out the stories behind the tapes that led to over 100 convictions of some of New Yorks most notorious families of crime.

Season three airs on October 18th, 2022. Follow to never miss an episode.

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Season 2 Finale: More Listener Questions! Jul 28, 2021

In the season 2 finale, producer Matty joins Joe and Leo to ask another round of questions submitted by you, the listeners! Thank you for listening to Deep Cover: The Real Donnie Brasco and be sure to follow us on social media for updates on season 3!

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00:00:00 - Intro 00:06:52 - Fan Questions

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The French (Canadian) Connection ft. Eric from Canada Jul 21, 2021

This week we’re getting a visit from Joe’s friend from the north, Eric from Montreal Canada. As a former detective with the Montreal Police Department, Eric has a resume as long as the rap sheets of some of the criminals he put away. The two former colleagues share with Leo about the cases they worked together, and about the connection the mafia had between the states and our neighbors from the north. Thank you to our sponsor Sunday! Get 20% off at checkout when you visit GetSunday.com/Deepcover20. Thank you to our sponsor Hunt a Killer! Visit huntakiller.com/deep for $10 off.

00:00:00 - Intro 00:01:51 - Interview with Eric from Canada

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Examining The Criminal Mind with Dr. Frank Jul 14, 2021

Go inside the mind of a criminal. This week Joe and Leo are joined by criminal psychiatrist and Joe’s old colleague, Dr. Frank, to take a deep dive into how the mind of a killer works. Listen as they talk about the differences between the mentality of a mafioso and a serial killer, as well as Dr. Frank’s history working with Joe in the FBI.

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00:00:00 - Intro 00:02:54 - Dr. Frank

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Joe Pistone Returns to the FBI Jun 30, 2021

Just when we thought Joe was done with the FBI he decides to give it another shot. But before he can be reinstated he must go through what all rookies go through- training at the FBI Academy. He talks with Leo about his decision to go back to the bureau and the training process that he had to go through to once again become Special Agent Joe Pistone. Thank you to our sponsor Hunt a Killer! Visit huntakiller.com/deep for $10 off. 00:00:00 - Intro 00:09:32 - Joe is reinstated Follow us on social media: Deep Cover (@twitter) (@instagram) (@facebook) Jam Street Media (@twitter) (@instagram) (@facebook) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Breaking Down a Lost ‘Lefty’ Tape Jun 23, 2021

Never before heard tapes! The year is 1978 as we listen to original recorded conversations between Joe “Donnie Brasco” Pistone, infamous Lefty “Two Guns” Ruggiero and another undercover agent known on the street as “Tony Conte”. Leo and Joe break down what they hear and analyze what is really being said all those years ago.

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Joe Pistone Quits the FBI - Part 2 Jun 16, 2021

After years of unwarranted harassment from his superior, Joe finally had enough. He tells Leo about the incident that finally pushed him over the edge. In one final confrontation with his special agent in charge, Joe quit the FBI just a few years short of his 20-year mark. 00:00:00 - Intro 00:06:48 - Joe Quits the FBI Follow us on social media: Deep Cover (@twitter) (@instagram) (@facebook) Jam Street Media (@twitter) (@instagram) (@facebook)

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Joe Pistone Quits the FBI Part 1 Jun 09, 2021

This week Joe begins to shut the door on his career with the FBI. He walks Leo through the years of harassment and unnecessary heat he faced at his assigned field office from his Special Agent in Charge. From calling his wife to check on his whereabouts to attempting to interrupt his time to testify in the Commission trial, the constant, insufferable behavior that Joe faced finally pushed him over the edge. We also get a look at some of his undercover work with never-before-heard tapes of a conversation he had with Sonny Black. 00:00:00 - Intro 00:22:20 - Sonny Black Tapes Follow us on social media: Deep Cover (@twitter) (@instagram) (@facebook) Jam Street Media (@twitter) (@instagram) (@facebook)

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Joe and Leo Go to the Movies Jun 02, 2021

This week Leo and Joe dive into the Hollywood scene. The two give behind the scenes insight on the set of Leo’s new hit show, Graves End. We also hear stories from Joe’s time with some of the “Hollywood Elite,” including the times he met Dice Clay and Sid Rosenberg. Plus, Joe drops a bombshell change of heart regarding the notorious gangster Sammy “The Bull” Gravano. 00:00:00 - Intro 00:30:22 - A Million Dollar Question Follow us on social media: Deep Cover (@twitter) (@instagram) (@facebook) Jam Street Media (@twitter) (@instagram) (@facebook)

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Joe and Leo sit down with Michael Franzese May 26, 2021

This week Leo and Joe are joined by former member of the Colombo Crime Family, Michael Franzese. Being a gangster is one hell of a life to live. Michael, Joe and Leo discuss the ugly truth about what being a made guy can do to your life, and how for some getting out is a hard thing to do. Michael tells the guys some stories about life after prison, The Mafia and about his last couple sit-downs with Sammy “The Bull” Gravano. Ad - Get started with EveryPlate for just $1.99 per meal plus an additional 20% off another 2 weeks by going to EveryPlate.com and entering code DEEPCOVER199. 00:00:00 - Intro 00:03:48 - Interview with Michael Franzese Follow us on social media: Deep Cover (@twitter) (@instagram) (@facebook) Jam Street Media (@twitter) (@instagram) (@facebook)

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The Italian Mafia’s Ruthless Ways May 19, 2021

This week Joe and Leo discuss The Maxi Trial in Palermo, Sicily. The case was against the Sicilian Mafia, and, boy, were those some mean, cold-hearted gangsters. The Sicilians had their own murderous ways of doing things, and unlike their American counterparts, nobody’s life was off-limits. The New York Mafia was also no stranger to taking action against those that crossed them, actions like putting a contract out on Joe’s life. 00:00:00 - Intro 00:02:07 - How the Wise Guys Get Their Nickname 00:07:06 - The Maxi Trial 00:13:30 - The Contract Follow us on social media: Deep Cover (@twitter) (@instagram) (@facebook) Jam Street Media (@twitter) (@instagram) (@facebook)

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Never Cross a Mob Boss May 12, 2021

If there’s one thing you never want to do it’s cross a mob boss. Joe talks to us about what happened to the acting boss of the Bonanno Crime Family, Carmine Galante, when he decided to defy The Commission. Leo learns a lesson of his own when Joe let’s him in on what makes a good deep cover agent, and why he probably wouldn't make the cut. What happens when two FBI agents walk into a Russian dacha? The answer might surprise you. 00:00:00 - Intro 00:02:07 - Deep Cover Debrief 00:06:38 - Art of Deep Cover 00:07:51 - The Russian Dacha 00:17:02 - Don’t Cross a Boss Follow us on social media: Deep Cover (@twitter) (@instagram) (@facebook) Jam Street Media (@twitter) (@instagram) (@facebook)

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The Fall of the Mafia May 05, 2021

The case is finally closed and it’s time for Joe Pistone, a.k.a the real Donnie Brasco to face The Mafia in court. For six years, he rubbed elbows with some of the scariest gangsters alive and now he’s working with the then U.S. Attorney Rudy Giuliani to bring them to justice. Joe’s testimony was crucial in The Pizza Connection Trial and The Commission Trial, which was the most expensive trial in New York City history. Usually, the mafia doesn’t deal in the business of drugs. But at the end of the day when the money’s rolling in, it’s easy to turn and look the other way. 00:00:00 - Intro 00:01:54 - The RICO Act 00:07:03 - The Lawyers 00:09:37 - The Pizza Connection Trial Follow us on social media: Deep Cover (@twitter) (@instagram) (@facebook) Jam Street Media (@twitter) (@instagram) (@facebook)

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Donnie Brasco is Back Apr 28, 2021

Leo Rossi and Joe Pistone are back and diving even further into the Donnie Brasco story. This week is all about mafia business and the cash-raking hustle of hijacking. From Sonny Black to John Gotti, these wise guys worked some of the most successful (and dangerous) car-jacking rings in the country. So much so it worked them up the family hierarchy. But what happens when the mighty inevitably fall? Do they fall back into a life of crime or try and go straight? 00:00:00 - Intro 00:02:56 - Mindset of The Mafia Man 00:11:48 - Business of Hijacking Follow us on social media: Deep Cover (@twitter) (@instagram) (@facebook) Jam Street Media (@twitter) (@instagram) (@facebook)

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Deep Cover: The Real Donnie Brasco Season 2 Apr 22, 2021

Leo and Joe are back with even more jaw-dropping stories that will have you inching toward the edge of your seat. After spending six years undercover, it was time for Joe to take the stand against the mafia men that he spent nearly every day with. You’ll hear stories about The Pizza Connection Trial, The Commission Trial and about some of the other operations that took him around the globe. Throughout this season, you’ll hear secret recordings of conversations Joe had with the members of the Bonanno Crime Family, and learn the real reason as to why Joe finally left the FBI. Follow us on social media Facebook Instagram Twitter

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A Donnie Brasco Christmas, Part 2 Dec 21, 2020

Happy Holidays! We have a gift for all of the listeners that have made this year special. It’s a two part holiday special with Leo Rossi and Joe Pistone, the real Donnie Brasco. Joe tells us what it was like spending so many holiday seasons with the mafia. From stolen Christmas gifts to Charlie Brown Christmas trees, they discuss it all.

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A Donnie Brasco Christmas, Part 1 Dec 16, 2020

Happy Holidays! We have a gift for all of the listeners that have made this year special. It’s a two part holiday special with Leo Rossi and Joe Pistone, the real Donnie Brasco. Joe tells us what it was like spending so many holiday seasons with the mafia. From stolen Christmas gifts to Charlie Brown Christmas trees, they discuss it all. Thank you to our sponsor Manscaped! Get 20% Off + Free Shipping, with the code DEEPCOVER at Manscaped.com

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Life as a Prison Warden with Joseph Woodring Nov 18, 2020

We're back with another bonus episode! This time, with Joe and Leo's first interview where THEY ask the questions. Their guest, the interviewee, is Joseph Woodring, a retired prison warden and associate warden who oversaw murderers, high level drug dealers, maximum security facilities, worked for the department of justice, and the state department. He shares his experiences, and even discusses what it was like working closely with some of the world's most dangerous inmates, including ones who were in the Mafia.

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Joe Pistone and Leo Rossi Interviewed by Matty Staudt Oct 28, 2020

While we're waiting for Season 2... the president and founder of our favorite show's production company, Matty Staudt, is taking this opportunity to get to know Leo and Joe's story better. From Leo's days in radio to Joe's peccadillos, we get to be flies on the wall to this humorous and revealing discussion between three Italians who have more in common than they realized.

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Donnie Brasco Goes To Hollywood Sep 16, 2020

In this Season 1 finale of Deep Cover, Leo Rossi and Joe Pistone reminisce on tales of Hollywood related to the production of the movie, Donnie Brasco, and more. They’ve known each other for years and have many stories to share to prove it. Joe may have been deep undercover with the mafia, but according to him, Hollywood executives are the ones not to be trusted. Coming soon, Deep Cover Season 2, will continue where Joe left off, sharing more stories of his time deep undercover in not just America, but overseas as well.

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Johnny Depp is Donnie Brasco Sep 09, 2020

Leo Rossi and Joe Pistone get into the showbiz of Donnie Brasco, the movie. Revealing stories of what it was like to work with an A-list actor like Johnny Depp, especially the relationship of respect established between Depp and Joe. Joe Pistone also reveals what parts of the movie were true to his actual experience undercover, and which were fictionalized for the big screen.

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Close Calls and Untold Stories, Part 2 Sep 02, 2020

In this two-part episode, Leo and Joe continue to reveal close calls and other untold stories from Joe’s time deep undercover, as Donnie Brasco. From the dangers of wearing a wire, to meeting a doctor that wanted to sell drugs to the mob, and other curious occurrences that will have you wondering how he did it all and made it out unscathed. What was it really like working with Lefty Ruggiero? Joe Pistone, aka Donnie Brasco, will tell you.

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Close Calls and Untold Stories, Part 1 Aug 26, 2020

In this two-part episode, Leo and Joe reveal close calls and other untold stories from Joe’s time deep undercover, as Donnie Brasco. From the dangers of wearing a wire, to meeting a doctor that wanted to sell drugs to the mob, and other curious occurrences that will have you wondering how he did it all and made it out unscathed. What was it like to share an apartment with Sonny Black, a caporegime in the Bonanno crime family? Joe Pistone, aka Donnie Brasco, will tell you.

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Three Capos Murder Aug 19, 2020

Leo Rossi and Joe Pistone dive deeper into the three capos murder that took place towards the end of the Donnie Brasco operation. A big war was going on in the Bonanno family that led to the ultimate murder of Philip Giaccone, Al Indelicato and Dominick Trinchera. Joe has special insight into this event, because he was still undercover when Sonny Black placed the hit to prevent the further planning by the three capos, to overthrow the Bonanno boss.

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Q&A with Leo and Joe, Part 2 Aug 12, 2020

Joe Pistone and Leo Rossi sit down to answer more of the listener’s questions. This time, Joe talks about his family, the impact his work has had on the world of deep cover operations, and even Leo gets to answer a few questions! All of these questions, and more, are answered in this two-part Q&A.

00:45 – Was there anything Joe enjoyed about working for the mafia?

01:52 – Would Joe have done anything different?

02:45 – What other criminal profession would Joe have liked to have learned?

04:54 – Which crime family dealt in white collar crime?

05:30 – Does Joe feel proud of the impact his work as Donnie Brasco had?

07:04 – How did Joe’s family cope with his time deep undercover?

08:53 – What was Leo’s favorite part of Joe’s story?

09:50 – Does Leo think he would’ve been able to have done what Joe did?

11:00 – How did Leo and Joe meet?

12:15 – Was Joe satisfied with the results of the operation?

15:40 – What is Joe’s favorite mafia film besides Donnie Brasco?

19:50 - Does Joe still look over his shoulder?

24:00 – Bonus question.

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Q & A with Leo and Joe, Part 1 Aug 05, 2020

Joe Pistone and Leo Rossi sit down to answer some of the listener’s questions. Now that we know the story of how Donnie Brasco came to be, we’re going to dive even deeper into the finer details of the operation. What happened after the operation? What did Lefty Ruggiero do when he got out? What was the most difficult part of being Donnie Brasco? All of these questions, and more, are answered in this two-part Q&A.

01:25 – What happened when the operation ended?

03:24 – Sonny’s culture

04:10 – No mercy for Sonny Black?

05:05 – How did Joe Pistone find out Sonny was dead?

06:50 – What did Lefty do when he got out?

07:55 – $500k contract on Joe

09:15 – Was it difficult jumping in and out of he Donnie Brasco persona?

12:23 – Did anyone try to contact Joe?

15:08 – Would Joe have regretted killing Bruno?

16:48 – How many people were killed?

18:10 – What was the most difficult part about working deep cover?

20:09 – Did anyone from the mob ever come over to Joe’s apartment?

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The End of Donnie Brasco? Jul 29, 2020

The FBI now knows there’s a lot of bad blood and enemies turning the mafia inside out and placing Joe Pistone’s life in danger. He’s set to become a made guy, but the FBI wants to close the operation and start convicting with the evidence they’ve collected thus far. The likes of Sonny Black and Lefty Ruggiero wrestle with the realization that Donnie Brasco has been an undercover agent the entire time, but the true is undeniable as Joe (aka Donnie Brasco) begins to testify before the jury in the coming years.

02:25 – Sonny Black resolves Bonanno internal conflict

03:21 – Joe Pistone aka Donnie Brasco is assigned a hit

07:47 – FBI wants to close operation

11:35 – Donnie Brasco is no more

14:43 – Sonny Black’s end

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Donnie Brasco vs. Tony Mirra Jul 22, 2020

Tensions are at an all-time high within the Bonanno family, as there’s a struggle for power amongst the caporegime. Anthony “Tony” Mirra returns from prison to reclaim Joe from Lefty Ruggiero, but with no leverage or right to it, he resorts to throwing baseless claims of theft and insubordination Joe’s (aka Donnie Brasco’s) way. This ultimately leads to a sit down with Sonny Black that could either go in Joe’s favor or cut his time deep undercover within the mafia, short.

00:55 – Telephone Conversation between Lefty and Joe

15:26 – The Outcome of the Sit Down with Sonny Black and Tony Mirra

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Joe Meets Santo Trafficante Jul 15, 2020

If last time wasn’t risky enough, Joe finds himself assisting another fellow undercover FBI operation. Except this time, it’s a gambling scene based out of Florida. Joe has to find a way to get the caporegime of the Bonanno crime family, Dominick Napolitano aka Sonny Black, to agree to getting involved with the crime family controlling Florida, the Trafficante family. In this episode, Joe takes us behind the scenes of a rigged gambling operation, that runs into some trouble along the way.

01:35 – Joe goes to Florida, to help the FBI again

08:10 – Brining in Sonny Black and Santo Trafficante

10:50 – Big Casino Night in Florida

13:12 – Joe and the crew get arrested

17:17 – Internal war within the Bonanno family

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Meeting with the Balistrieri Family Jul 08, 2020

Now that Joe Pistone (aka Donnie Brasco) has been helping Lefty Ruggerio do the bookkeeping and movement of stolen property for Nicholas Marangello, the underboss of the Bonanno crime family, for some time, he’s got a favor to ask. The FBI needs Joe’s help with a new operation in Milwaukee to try and get the Balistrieri family for extortion. But one family cannot conduct illegal business in the territory of another’s. Joe has to ask Michael Sabella, a caporegime in the Bonanno crime family for assistance in getting his fellow undercover agent, Tony, a sit down with Frank Balistrieri, a Milwaukee Mafia boss. What could go wrong?

01:40 – Joe’s and Lefty Ruggerio’s work together

03:05 – Mafia family borders

05:03 – FBI’s Milwaukee Vending Machine Operation

07:11 – Joe gets the Bonanno family involved

12:07 – The Balistrieri and the Bonanno family go into business together

17:22 – Trouble with Tony

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Joe Meets the Bonanno Family Jul 01, 2020

So, Joe has left the Colombo family, he’s a free mobster… where to next? The Bonannno family. Utilizing his acquaintance with Anthony “Tony” Mirra, an American mobster, soldier and later caporegime for the Bonanno crime family, Joe gets introduced to various contacts in the Bonnano family. He’s even introduced to the likes of Carmine Persico, the long-time boss of the Colombo crime family. Throughout this episode, Joe and Leo discuss the cold-blooded and graphic nature of the mafia’s kills, the mental strength someone in Joe’s position needed to have, and how Joe came to meet the person who would be known as his mentor in the Bonnano family: Lefty Ruggerio.

01:08 – Anthony “Tony” Mirra

07:22 – Mafia Murders: are they serial killers?

11:34 – Joe Pistone’s Mental Strength

13.39 – More on Anthony “Tony” Mirra: getting introduced to the Bonanno Family

17:12 – Lefty Ruggerio

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A Fight With a Colombo Jun 24, 2020

What can you do when a pistol is placed in front of you, and you’re given an ultimatum to prove yourself, or be killed? Well, Joe chose to go on the offensive with a made man of the mafia to maintain his respect and credibility. In this episode, Joe walks us through his brief time with the Colombo’s at Jilly’s social club. He reveals how he avoided getting too involved in criminal activities with help from the FBI. And how he selectively picked a fight to avoid further suspicion.

Episode Outline (17:46)

Jilly’s Social Club – 01:55

Working with the Colombos – 04:59

How long Joe was affiliated with the Colombos – 07:07

Introduction of Franky and Patsy

The line Joe couldn’t cross – 09:09

Joe’s legitimacy questioned – 11:00

Joe has made enemies in Colombo family – 14:21

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Joe Becomes Donnie Brasco Jun 17, 2020

When the head writer of the Sopranos and creator of Boardwalk Empire, Terence Winter, sees death in your eyes, you know you’re convincing enough for the mafia. From the Lucchese to the Colombo family, Joe walks us through how he made first contact. Following the rules of the mafia to stay alive, Joe Pistone aka Donnie Brasco, shows the mafia that he’s a legitimate street guy with intentions to join their illegal dealings, as a jewel thief. How hard could it be? Well, in this episode, we learn the importance of knowing your enemy.

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Who is the real Donnie Brasco? Jun 09, 2020

Rather than be attracted to the lifestyle of a gangster, Joe Pistone found himself drawn to a career in law enforcement. So how did a freshly recruited FBI agent go from routine undercover cases, to going deep undercover as a jewel thief, for the Italian mafia? In this first episode with the help of our host, Leo Rossi, we find out how the most decorated undercover agent in the FBI, Joe Pistone, aka Donnie Brasco, got his start. From crimes against the government to making back alley deals on the street, we hear it all. This is the first of many great conversations between Joe and actor Leo Rossi.

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Deep Cover: The Real Donnie Brasco May 27, 2020

Did you see the movie “Donnie Brasco” starring Johny Depp and Al Pacino and wonder if all of that really happened? The true story is even more interesting than the movie. The real Donnie Brasco is Joe Pistone, and he spent 5 years undercover with Bonano and Columbo crime families and 17 years as an FBI agent. In the new podcast “Deep Cover-The Real Donnie Brasco” he tells his true stories of his time with The Mob to his friend, and our host, actor Leo Rossi. Real stories from the real Donnie Brasco on the first season of Deep Cover. First Episode launches June 10th. Subscribe and be the first to hear it!

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