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Fathoms Feature: Being More than Your Type with Sandra C. Smith Jan 16, 2025

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In this episode, we talk to Sandra C. Smith, an Enneagram teacher, about her new book, The Enneagram Map to Your Deeper Self: Living Beyond Your Type.

[2:44] Getting to know Sandra through summer-themed questions

[8:26] Sandra’s personal journey with the Enneagram

[12:19] Sandra’s teachers, their influences on her and how they show up in her book

[17:16] Defining type and why is understanding that you’re more than and not just your type is important for your growth

[25:37] How Sandra’s strengths show up as she wrote her book

[29:19] The dualities of the types

[41:39] This yearning to open ourselves to more of what we are

[47:21] Prompt for each type to help them reframe and move beyond their own limited perspective

[52:24] Why we should buy Sandra’s book and where they can buy it

Follow Sandra’s work: Alchemy Works // @sandrasmithalchemyworks // Heart of the Enneagram Podcast // “The Enneagram Map to Your Deeper Self: Living Beyond Your Type”

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The Enneagram & Leadership - S6 E6 Apr 20, 2021

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Sandra and Chris reflect on the wisdom gleaned from leaders in Season 6 and offer an overview of the gifts and sensibilities of each Enneagram type as it relates to leadership.

The Enneagram & Leadership - S6 E5 Apr 13, 2021

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Join Sandra and Chris as they talk with Vance Brown, who leads with Enneagram type Three. Vance shares the ways in which his type shows up in his leadership role as a high-tech CEO.

The Enneagram & Leadership - S6 E4 Apr 06, 2021

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Learn about the gifts and challenges of a type Eight leader as Chris and Sandra talk with non-profit co-director and NC Senator Julie Mayfield.

The Enneagram & Leadership - S6 E3 Mar 30, 2021

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Listen as Chris and Sandra talk with Bill Toth who leads with Enneagram type Six. Bill shares how his Enneagram type has influenced the ways in which he leads in his diverse professional background in global security.

The Enneagram & Leadership - S6 E2 Mar 23, 2021

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How do a type One and type Three co-lead a team? Find out as Chris and Sandra talk with Elizabeth Sawin & Drew Jones, Co-founders of Climate Interactive. Beth and Drew share the insights they have gleaned from years of co-leading and how their leadership styles relate to their Enneagram Types.

The Enneagram & Leadership - S6 E1 Mar 16, 2021

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Micky ScottBey Jones, a womanist, faith-rooted contemplative activist, movement chaplain, nonviolence practitioner, and justice doula, shares how her leadership is informed and impacted by her Enneagram Type 1.

Elder Wisdom Season Finale - S5 E7 Sep 22, 2020

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Sandra and Chris reflect on the wisdom gleaned from elders in Season 5 and ask each other what they would say to their 25 year old self.

Elder Wisdom with Sandra Maitri - S5 E6 Sep 15, 2020

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Sandra Maitri shares her wisdom of eastern and western spiritualities and her journey learning the Enneagram in the 1970s from Claudio Naranjo and leading with type Two.

Elder Wisdom with Jeanette Stokes - S5 E5 Sep 08, 2020

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Jeanette Stokes shares how the Enneagram has influenced her understanding of her vocational journey resourcing women in ministry.

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