In Episode 194, Ben and Scott dive into the recent announcement of the GA of Microsoft Lists in Microsoft Teams.
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- Welcome to episode 194 of the Microsoft cloud It pro podcast, recorded live September 4th, 2020. This, is a show about Microsoft 365 and Azure, from the perspective of IT Pros and end users, where we discuss recent news or topics, and how it relates to you. In this episode, Ben and Scott dive more into Microsoft list, now that they've been recently GAID, both from the Microsoft list point of view, as well as from the app and Microsoft Teams. So, let's dive in and talk. Microsoft lists.
- Yeah.
- Hit the button.
- All right, all of the buttons have been hit.
- Excellent, I'm glad we figured that out once again.
- And hopefully our video recording this time will put us back side by side, instead of flipping back and forth like last week.
- I'ma yell at my producer.
- You should, he's using a new camera too, `cause the camera wiggling on his desk annoyed him. But I don't know that I liked this view, I feel like it kind of looking at my nose.
- Well, I mean, you're a vlogger now, right?
- And that was a vlog point
- I'm a vlogger. . What is that thing?
- It's the Sony Z...
- The Sony ZV1, ZV, ZV?
- Yeah, ZV, Sony ZV1.
- Yes, see you are a blogger now, that's vlogger camera.
- I'm a vlogger.
- Yes, we've actually been doing a lot on YouTube. I have another friend of mine that's been doing some YouTube videos too on my channel, and, he, it's interesting, `cause he comes with a different perspective. So he's in a completely different industry than us, but uses Microsoft 365. So he's been doing light more end-user type videos, that we've been putting on the Intelligenk YouTube channel, So if you're looking for like some Word, Excel, and you still a bit of a technology guy too, so he's been playing around with Power apps, but, doing a little bit more beginner videos, I've been doing a bunch more Teams' videos, but, we've been putting like two or three videos up a week on YouTube lately.
- You need to get a--
- So... custom channels slug, it's what you need to do there.
- I do, I have it already. It's slash Intelligenk. So it's YouTube slash Intelligenk.
- You don't get it navigating just through the YouTube directory, that's an--
- You know what, yeah, and I don't know why, `cause if I go into all my settings, it is set to be my custom URL. But going through the directory doesn't get it. I, maybe if I undo it and redo it, I don't know, I blame YouTube. But yes, as a result.
- As you should.
- I got tired of using webcams, and for a while I was using my itune camera, my iPhone, for video, and I finally splurged and bought the Sony ZV1, and I figured I'd try it for today too. I have a bit of a goofy setup, `cause I'm actually, naturally they released their webcam software for it, for windows, but not for Mac, so I have to go out of the HDMI out, and I have one of the Blackmagic ATEM Mini HDMI switches, So it goes, HDMIO into the Blackmagic ATEM Mini, and then it shows up like that device shows up, as a webcam, so I can pick any one of my four HDMI inputs as my webcam, and my camera's one of them. So, that is what I'm doing. But then it's always like, where do you position the camera, right? `Cause I could put it over there, or I could try to put it up here, but if it's yeah...
- Well, the next step is, you get the mount, that can come right over your monitor, and then come down right dead center in the monitor, so it's actually gonna be sitting in front of content on your screen, but you would be looking directly into it, like into the souls of your audience.
- Right, I mean, it's small enough, I could probably get away with that, or I could just like set this tripod up, so that, `cause I have a little mini desk tripod, that I could set up, so it's right in front of the monitor, that would work too. But then I couldn't see
- Your beautiful face on my monitor Scott.
- Oh sure you could. You could find a way to make that happen.
- Although I'm not looking at my monitor right now, I'm looking at the camera. That's the weirdest thing with all the webcams and everything, is always like not looking at everybody else, but trying to keep looking at the camera.
- Yeah. I keep trying to adjust my set up, like, can I pull mine over further or move the camera, over, you know, what that looks like, and where it comes out in the middle, but-- or we just--
- The struggle is real.
- Yeah, or we just need to use Teams for everything, go get ourselves some surface devices, and use the eye fixing feature.
- Yeah?
- That we could
- Is that what's next? The Surface Duo?
- No, not the Duo. Didn't we talk about this last week? Well, I didn't know if, I didn't know if you had broke down an order one yeah.
- No, I have not. It's interesting to see the feedback on it. It has gotten some good feedback, because, like you said, I drastically... Misunderstood--
- who's had good feedback from? `Cause it's had one of the weirdest roll outs, that I've seen in a while. There's a dual embargo, so, the people who received
- Oh calf.
- You know those kids for like the first 50 devices--
- But they couldn't turn them on?
- Yeah, well they could, they're just not allowed to talk about it. Which is hilarious, because if you're willing to brave Best Buy, at whatever store, the demo units are up with the software on, so you could totally go into a Best Buy or something like that, and just play with the shelf unit, with its demo mode.
- Interesting. So, maybe not good reviews it hasn't been terrible, like everybody talks about the price, but they didn't, I personally didn't realize how, in line that pricing actually was with all the other foldables. Because there was another one--
- So the pricing is in line with the form factor, but if you consider other foldables, it is still not up to spec, for a bunch of different things, right?
- It's a hardware, it's all apps, use hardware. Yeah, so, SOC Ram camera, all those things are behind, and even the battery is pretty small, because it's such a thin device, I think you're looking at something, it's on the order of like 35, 3,600 milli amp hours, in that battery, versus going to, you know, like something that's a larger, thicker device, like the Fold2 user things that have come out recently.
- True, I was pressed by the size of the... Like some of the reviewer said, it looks super wide, like, I look like I'd have to stretch my fingers out, to actually hold it because of the width.
- Yeah, not you, you'd be like a one-hander, but--
- You know, like normal people, yeah, two hands.
- It was about the same height as the iPhone 11 Max, but it was definitely wider than the iPhone 11 Max.
- Yes, yeah.
- So.
- Different devices for different things, but, we'll see.
- Yes.
- Again, I am probably not the target market for that, because I have no plans in buying, that or frankly, any foldable for that matter. Because I don't have a use for it. If I need something bigger, I'm gonna take my iPad. And if I want something small, yeah. And I won't have to fiddle with that. Or like, if you want to take a picture, having to take it out, like flip it all the way around to, take a forward facing picture of my kids, instead of a selfie, it's not gonna happen.
- But again, that's unique to the surface, the Surface Duo, that was a design decision they made, only to have that camera on the inside, things like the Galaxy Z Flip, or the Galaxy Fold, they do not have that issue, because they have cameras on both the front and back.
- Yes, although, like you said, I think those are actually, which one came out, they announced this week, it had a starting price of like $2,000.
- That's the Fold2. Yeah It's a Galaxy Z Fold2, yeah.
- Anyways, should we actually get into stuff we haven't talked about before, as we rehash stuff we already talked about?
- Yeah, what do you wanna talk about?
- What do you wanna--
- Physio, AKS...
- Lists.
- Lists.
- That have GAID now in Teams.
- You know, yes. So, Lists, I think it was announced just yesterday, so today is what? Today is November...
- November?
- November.
- Wow.
- I don't even have slug...
- You're so way off in the future--
- Yeah--
- September, let go back a couple months back--
- Maybe, I'm like projecting, I'm wishing it was already in November and it's almost over, yeah.
- But then you would have missed Ignite. Okay, we'll talk about that later.
- I don't know, I could've gone back and watched on video.
- That's okay, it's September 4.
- Yeah, so on September 3rd, they announced, that all this stuff was GAing. So, Lists are GAing inside of Teams, and the interesting thing here, the part that I thought was really cool, when you think about like parody between, between the different clouds that are out there, like commercial clouds and sovereign clouds, like GCC, things like that, they actually announced--
- Yup.
- That it's coming to both commercial cloud, and GCC at the same time. So awesome job, you know, congratulations lists, and Teams team, they're getting it done, but, the funnier thing is, you still might be in a tenant, that doesn't have Lists, `cause it hasn't finished its global rollout yet.
- Right, `cause now it's GA well, yeah. `Cause it's GA, both Lists are GAID, and the List app and Teams is GAID. But, both of them are going through, like you said, that global rollout, so technically, you can have it in Teams, and not in SharePoint, which means it wouldn't work in Teams, or you could have it in SharePoint, but you don't have the app in Teams. I have it in both places. I was surprised how long it took me, like, I'm on the preview beta first release of everything, and, some of the stuff around lists, I didn't actually get in my preview environment, until it GAID.
- Yes, yeah.
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