Through the Lens

Sunlight in December with Kristin Hernandez | Ep. 48 Aug 20, 2021

If God is good, why is there so much suffering in the world? If God is good, why did my babies die?

Today we're chatting all things Sunlight in December: A Mother's Story of Finding the Goodness of God in the Storm of Grief with our very own Kristin Hernandez. It's been one month since the book launch, and we're having a conversation about the entire book writing process- from the idea for the book, to challenges and discoveries made while writing it, to where Kristin hopes things will go from here.

If you, or someone you're close to, has walked through infertility, miscarriages, and/or the loss of an infant, you'll want to keep a copy of this powerful memoir about death, doubt, and hope; you'll also want to tune into today's episode to discover more about Kristin's heart for the book, and stay for a fun book-themed lightening round to close things out!

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On Counseling | Ep. 47 Jul 10, 2021

How should we approach counseling as believers? What does the Bible say about counseling and how can we find a counselor that is a good fit? In today's episode, we're sharing our personal experiences with counseling, exploring ways to find a counselor who is a good fit, and providing Biblical encouragement to consider when seeking support. Our hope is to simply encourage you by sharing our own experiences, and even more so, by sharing Biblical wisdom to consider as you assess whether counseling would be a helpful next step for you.

Moving Through Grief | Ep. 46 Jun 04, 2021

Episode 46 of Through the Lens Podcast is here and today we’re chatting all things exercise + fitness! But don’t shut this off just yet if you’re not much of a fitness enthusiast - we promise there will be some helpful tips in here that we think anyone in grief will find interesting.

In this episode on Moving Through Grief, we share the connection between fitness + grief, what types of fitness formats are recommended for the griever, and what about when you’re just not motivated?

How about you - are you using movement as a healthy outlet to support your grief journey? For many of us, starting on an exercise regimen after loss can feel uninspiring at best, daunting at worst. On today’s episode, we’re sharing our personal pre- and post-loss fitness journeys, including how our relationships to fitness have changed in light of our grief.

We also discuss the physical and mental benefits of exercise for the grieving person and share some simple, practical strategies and mindset tips for getting moving again.

Grief These Day | Ep. 45 Apr 22, 2021

We’re baaaack!!

Hey Through the Lens friends, we definitely went radio silent there for a bit but we are back on the airwaves and kicking things off with a conversation about Grief These Days. Tune in as Kristin and Holly discuss what our grief looks like these days in this pandemic season and 6 years out from the losses of our sons. Everything from counseling to books and what’s making us happy these days as we continue to lament, hope, and process our suffering through the lens of the Gospel.

In this episode we ask about your counseling experience; email us at throughthelenspodcast@gmail.com or drop us a private message over @throughthelenspodcast on IG.

Books mentioned:

Holding Onto Hope by Nancy Guthrie

Walking Through Fire by Vaneetha Risner

When God Weeps by Joni Eareckson Tada

Growing and Grieving with 12x Loss Mama Christy Miller | Ep. 44 Aug 11, 2020

12 losses. That's what mama Christy Miller has lived and learned through, and today we get to hear her story of growing and grieving, clinging to Christ, the hope of heaven, and the joy + peace on THIS side of eternity that can only be provided by way of the Holy Spirit.

Christy has 4 living children, with one on the way. She and her husband are advocates for foster + adoption, and her loss journey includes an ectopic pregnancy, blighted ovum, early and late-term miscarriages, IVF + infertility, and lots and lots of grief, joy, hope, pain, and love.

Christy is a close personal friend of mine (Holly) and is a worship leader at a local church here in Virginia Beach, VA. While I'd heard her story before, I found myself speechless + humbled all over again Christy's testimony. "Years ago I would have said, 12? No way, I'm not doing this. But-here I am, and we're on the other side, and yes-there's sadness and there's heartbreak-and there's also been a lot of healing and blessings (that don't wipe away the grief)."

Through the Lens Podcast Episode 44: Growing and Grieving with 12x Loss Mama Christy Miller is now available where podcasts are served.

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From Apathy to Empathy | Ep. 43 Jun 12, 2020

Holly here-I've had empathy on the mind lately. There's been a lot of horrible things happening in the world lately, in America right now. Between COVID and the brutal killings of Ahmaud Arbery and George Floyd in past few weeks...these are some very big events that, while I am learning, and I fear I don't know enough to effectively speak on a podcast about.

But then again, we're not here to have all the answers to be experts on anything other than sharing in our human experiences of suffering and grief and striving to keep our eyes fixed on heaven, on Jesus, the only one who can redeem and restore. So I hope that's what you'll take away from this conversation starter today-that He alone can redeem, and He has chosen us, His church, to be conduits of His grace and truth. And in order to be effective vessels for Gospel hope, especially in times of suffering and grief when hope is most needed, we must seek to grow in empathy. To move from apathy to empathy.

So here is a brief overview of how I personally have experienced growth in empathy due to my own personal trials, and how I'm pursuing continued growth in empathy as I grow in learning and love for my neighbors who are different from me. Because, as 1 Corinthians 12 says, if one part of the Body suffers, we all suffer.

Surviving Sorrow with Kim Erickson | Ep. 42 Apr 07, 2020

Today we get the honor of learning from Kim Erickson, author of Surviving Sorrow: A Mother’s Guide to Living With Loss. Kim began following Christ in 2008 after the death of her 3 year old son. She is a lawyer, she lives in Florida with her husband Devin and her son Ethan. As I (Holly) read through Kim’s book in preparation for this episode, something that really stuck out to me was in the intro—Kim speaks to the reader-to the grieving mom-and she says something really simple, yet profound. She says, “take my hand. Borrow my hope.”

In today’s interview, Kim does just that. She takes us on a journey of hope that only the restoration of the Gospel can bring. Over 10 years into her grief journey, Kim has so much to offer in sharing her story and the freedom Christ brings to us loss mamas. We chat about anger/angry prayers, the temporary nature of this life, scriptural examples of lament, and a stunning glimpse into heaven provided by her precious son Austin, which ultimately led Kim to begin following Jesus.

Tune in today. Borrow Kim’s hope, hurting mama. You’re not alone in your grief, in your anger, in your hope.

Read Surviving Sorrow

Connect with Kim

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Griefsources | Ep. 41 Mar 24, 2020

One of the things that has been the most encouraging to us in our grief has been connecting with others who "get it". People who can link their arms around us, cry with us, pray with us, point us to the truth, all while nodding their heads along with us and saying “me too”. Our grieving experiences have been greatly impacted by so many books, blogs, songs and organizations and we want to share some of our favorites with you!

In today’s episode, we're sharing some of our favorite grief-related resources...or “Griefsources” as we’re calling it. We’ve divided these resources into several categories: books, music, small business, podcasts, nonprofits, and blogs, and we're passing along some of our favorites to you, as well as some of your favorites that you’ve shared with us!

We recorded this episode a few weeks ago, before many of us realized the seriousness of COVID-19 and before a majority of our country went into social isolation. We are thankful that God remains the same even when things feel so uncertain, and we can't think of a better time to share some of our favorite resources with you!

Griefsources links:

Books:

I Will Carry You by Angie Smith

When God Doesn't Fix It by Laura Story

The Scars that have Shaped Me

Grieve, Create, Believe by Rachel George

Even Broken Can Be Beautiful by Sarah Rieke

Joy in Suffering by Rosemary Pope

Holding Tight to Permanent in a World That's Passing Away by She Reads Truth

A Grief Observed by CS Lewis

Suffering is Never for Nothing by Elisabeth Elliot

The Moon is Always Round by Jonathan Gibson (children's book)

Safe in the Arms of God: Truth from Heaven about the Death of a Child by John MacArthur

Holding On to Hope by Nancy Guthrie

Hearing Jesus Speak into your Sorrow by Nancy Guthrie

Walking with God through Pain and Suffering by Tim Keller

Elizabeth Prentiss: More Love to Thee by Sharon James

Mourning and Dancing study by She Reads Truth

Music:

Our Song in the Night by Michael Van Patter

It is Well by Bethel Music

The Rock Won't Move by Vertical Worship

It's Quiet Uptown by Hamilton

Where I Belong by Switchfoot

Podcasts:

The Joyful Mourning Podcast

The Heart Lessons Podcast

Blogs:

Scribbles and Crumbs

Rachel George

Kristin Ironside

Kristin Hernandez: Sunlight in December

Holly Colonna: Lessons from Benji

Grieve, Create, Believe: An Interview with Rachel George | Ep. 40 Jan 21, 2020

As we kick off 2020, we’re joined by our friend Rachel George to talk about clinging to God when you don’t feel His presence, the unique sorrow of loss upon loss, and processing grief through creativity. Rachel shares her story of miscarriage, losing her 1-month-old son Clive, and losing her 9-day-old daughter just 14 months later. Rachel authentically shares about the ways she wrestled with God and questioned her faith as she grieved her children. We chat about the truth we can cling to when we don’t *feel* the Holy Spirit and when God feels silent. Rachel also shares about her new book “Grieve, Create, Believe: Process Your Loss with Intention and Truth”. You definitely don’t want to miss this episode. We invite you to brew a hot pot of coffee, cozy up with a blanket and some tissues, and join us as we dive in to the new year with Rachel George.

What Grieving People Wish You Knew at Christmas | Ep. 39 Dec 10, 2019

Twinkling lights, familiar carols, and family gatherings can make the void feel that much deeper when you're missing someone special. Christmastime can feel bittersweet and even downright painful when there is an empty stocking on the mantle or an unfilled seat at the table. For anyone who’s grieving, this can be a particularly difficult time of year. In today's episode, we're talking about grief at Christmastime and chatting about Nancy Guthrie's article "What Grieving People Wish You Knew at Christmas" (found on desiringgod.org). We hope you'll find encouragement and support here as we chat about our struggles with this season, as well as the hope we have in Jesus--our Emmanuel, God with us.

Hope in the Hospital Pt. 2 with Tanisha Garnier | Ep. 38 Nov 19, 2019

As we continue the conversation on hope in the hospital, we’re joined by our friend Tanisha Garnier of Namesake Ink. Tanisha shares her story of hope in the hospital, including the pain of infertility, the loss of her precious son Xavier at 21-weeks gestation, and the miraculous life of her daughter Ezra, who spent the first 3.5 months of her life in the hospital. Tanisha beautifully shares how the church reflects Christ in how we love one another through suffering and of the unshakable hope we have in Jesus in the midst of our deepest grief. We were so incredibly encouraged by Tanisha’s story and we hope you will be too!

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Hope in the Hospital | Ep. 37 Nov 05, 2019

The hospital is a place of new beginnings and heartbreaking endings. It is simultaneously full of the hope of birth and new life, and the sorrow of death and earthly loss. As loss mamas, memories of the hospital evoke emotional pain and even PTSD, and in other ways these memories can be quite comforting. I guess you could say our emotions surrounding the hospital are quite complicated. In today's episode, we're talking about both the joy and trauma of our own hospital experiences and how God’s grace meets us in the middle of codes and beeps, the doctor rounds and diagnoses, and the sacred tears shared with family and friends. We hope you leave this conversation reflecting on the unshakeable hope we have in God's sovereignty and Christ's victory over death. Episode 37: Hope in the Hospital is now available for download.

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Joy In Suffering with Rosemary Pope | Ep. 36 Oct 22, 2019

This month we're continuing to address loss upon loss, sorrow upon sorrow. Rather than a life of comfort, Jesus promised us that His children would face heartache in this world. Even if we never walk through two identical losses, it is likely that the trials of this life are not all behind us and will result in the loss of something--perhaps our health, a friendship, a dream. Even when the hits seem to keep coming, Jesus encourages us with the truth that He has overcome the world. As we continue this discussion, we are joined by our friend and author Rosemary Pope. In our latest episode, @rosemarypope.author shares her story of stillbirth, infant loss and miscarriage, and encourages us to trust God to carry us through the deepest valleys. Grab some tissues or a cozy blanket and join us for Episode 36: Joy in Suffering with Rosemary Pope, now available on iTunes, Stitcher and Spotify.

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Hope In Loss Upon Loss | Ep. 35 Oct 08, 2019

When we’ve walked through a traumatic event such as the loss of a child, it is easy to feel like we “paid our dues”. It seems as if we’ve had more than our fair share of suffering and things can only get better from here. But what about when things don’t seem to get better? How can we reconcile the goodness of God when the worst happens again and it feels like lightning keeps striking in the same spot? In today’s episode, we’re sharing some of our own experiences with recurrent loss, as well as the frustrations and questions we’ve wrestled with. We also take a closer look at the Biblical account of Job--a righteous man who walked through incredible suffering upon suffering. No matter what your suffering has looked like in the past, this conversation is for you. If you’re reading this and you haven’t experienced multiple losses, we want to acknowledge that one loss is profoundly painful and is one too many. We encourage you to stick with us because we think there is something in this episode for all of us, as Jesus did tell us that we would face trials in this world. Even if you never walk through a loss like a previous loss (and we pray you don’t), it is likely that we will all walk through trials--resulting in the loss of something. Our comfort, our health, a dream. Grab a cup of your favorite hot beverage and join us as we link arms with one another and discuss this difficult topic. Episode 35: Hope in Loss Upon Loss is now available wherever you listen to podcasts.

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I Just Want a Healthy Baby...? | Ep. 32 May 28, 2019

“I don’t care, as long as they’re healthy!” Chances are, you’ve heard this phrase spoken by or to a pregnant woman. You’ve likely said it yourself a few times. We’re right there with you and have uttered these words more times than we can count. It wasn’t until our firstborn sons came into the world, both with conditions deemed incredibly “unhealthy”, that we began to take a deeper look at the implications of this phrase. Where do we place our hope when our babies aren’t healthy? As we wrap up the spring season, we’re chatting about the phrase “as long as they’re healthy”. We talk about our natural longing for wholeness and health, as humans created in the image of God, and the hope we can cling to when sickness enters our lives. We discuss the value of all life, healthy or sick, and the way God’s power is made perfect in our weaknesses. Episode 32: I Just Want a Healthy Baby is now available on all your favorite podcast apps.

A Mother's Day Card | Ep. 31 May 12, 2019

While Mother’s Day is a day of celebration for many, we know it can be bittersweet for our sisters who have lost children, have lost mothers, have strained relationships with their mothers or their children, are walking through infertility, or are walking through a variety of challenges unique to their motherhood. As we come out of Mother’s Day weekend, we’ve compiled an audio Mother’s Day card containing words of encouragement and support from mamas within this community. Join Amy Balentine ( @youmadememom), Kelley Ramsey ( @waiting.in.hope), Kristen Ironside ( @k_ironside), Maci Johnson ( @macecakes11), Sarah Rieke ( @sarah_rieke), T Lopez ( @officialtlopez), Holly Colonna ( @movemoregirls), and Kristin Hernandez ( @sunlightindecember) as we each share what God has been laying on our hearts in this season. We hope you walk away from this conversation feeling loved, supported, and known--not just by your sisters, but by a loving Father who sees you, even when you feel forgotten. Happy Mother’s Day to all of the mothers. To the ones who ache with empty arms and the ones who feel as if their hands could not be more full. To the ones who have carried babies in their hearts, their wombs, or their prayers. To the ones who feel overlooked or unknown. To the ones who carry the pain of losing their own mother. To the ones who view this day with joy, the ones who approach this day with dread, and the ones who feel a complicated mixture of both. No matter what motherhood looks like for you, this one's for you. We love you.

A Fatal Diagnosis with Kristen Ironside | Ep. 30 Apr 30, 2019

In today’s episode, Holly sits down to chat with our friend Kristin Ironside about the difficult journey of carrying a baby who isn’t expected to live outside the womb. Kristin shares the grief that came with her daughter’s diagnosis, as well as the ways God has revealed Himself to her and given her strength in the midst of the heartache. She explains how people have demonstrated the love of Christ, practical ways she is preparing for her daughter’s birth, and the way this diagnosis has shaped her view of eternity and the hope we have in Jesus. This conversation is especially unique as it comes from the perspective of a mama who is currently pregnant and walking this road, anticipating the arrival and departure of her precious daughter. We are so honored that Kristin entrusted us with her story and we look forward to sharing her words with you today. Episode 30: A Fatal Diagnosis with Kristin Ironside is now available.

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Preparing For a Baby You Won't Bring Home | Ep. 29 Apr 16, 2019

Pregnancy is arguably one of the most exciting times in a mother’s life. But for some, it can also be one of the most painful and challenging seasons--especially for a mother carrying a baby with a terminal diagnosis. We often talk about the grief that follows the loss of a child, but today we’re talking about the complicated mixture of grief and expectation that comes with carrying a child who may not come home. We’re sharing our stories of prenatal diagnoses, as well as the ways we “prepared” for the unexpected and the unimaginable. We discuss baby showers and nurseries (or lack thereof), as well as the encouragement we have in Christ when we are faced with a heartbreaking prognosis. Whether you have carried or are carrying a child with a terminal diagnosis, or have walked through anything difficult (that’s all of us, because let’s be real--who hasn’t?) we invite you to join us as we talk about a topic so dear to our hearts. Episode 29: Preparing for a Baby You Won’t Bring Home is now available.

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Hear Me Out | Ep. 28 Apr 02, 2019

No matter how painful or broken they may seem, our stories can be used by God as an avenue for sharing the gospel and speaking truth to a hurting world. In sharing our stories--whether with groups or new friends over coffee--we create space for the gospel to be shared, to point others to the hope of heaven, and to continually preach the gospel to ourselves as we continue to work out our grief. In today’s episode, we’re chatting about the beauty that can come from sharing our stories and what God has done, and is continuing to do, in our lives. We talk about the difficulties we have faced in sharing our stories, as well as the ways speaking our stories out loud has changed over the years. Episode 28: Hear Me Out is now available and we hope you’ll join us.

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For Better or Worse | Ep. 27 Mar 19, 2019

In today's episode, Kristin is joined by her husband, Chris, to chat about marriage--specifically the challenge of marriage tested through the fire of grief and loss, loving your spouse well, even when you grieve differently, and the encouragement and admonition we can find in scripture. Chris shares the story of their firstborn son, Ethan, and talks about this painful loss from his perspective as a husband and a father. We hope you'll join us for Episode 27: For Better or Worse with Chris and Kristin Hernandez, now available on all your favorite podcast apps.

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Waiting with Sarah Showalter | Ep. 26 Mar 05, 2019

In today's episode, Holly sits down to chat with our friend Sarah Showalter about grief, loss, and seasons of waiting. Sarah shares her story of losing her 2-month old son and walking through multiple miscarriages in the season after. She talks about the hope we can cling to when nothing seems to go "right" and the way that God never puts our seasons of grief or waiting to waste. We hope you'll tune in for Episode 26: Waiting with Sarah Showalter.

Sarah's blog can be found here.

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Comparison In Grief | Ep. 25 Feb 19, 2019

We all have different stories. We come from different backgrounds. We each have different strengths. Comparison in itself isn’t a bad thing. Noticing and celebrating our different strengths, experiences, and backgrounds can be glorifying to God and can even foster unity as the body of Christ. The problem with comparison arises when we measure one another in a way that is rooted in pride, bitterness, or self-centeredness. We’ve both been tempted to fall into the trap of self-seeking comparison in our grief. We’ve found ourselves tempted by the questions: Who has it harder? Whose pain is worse? Who is grieving better? Who is having the bigger impact? Why can’t my life be more like theirs? Perhaps you’ve been there too. This week we’re talking about comparison, specifically as it applies to grief and loss. We’re talking about our personal struggles with this, the inner drive to find common ground with our peers, the temptation to measure pain against the next griever, and the example we have in Christ, who humbled Himself in the greatest way. Episode 25: Comparison in Grief is now available on your favorite podcast platforms and we hope you’ll join us.

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Pregnancy After Loss | Ep. 24 Feb 05, 2019

We’re back! To kick off the spring season, we’re talking about pregnancy after loss--coping with fears surrounding pregnancy after loss, navigating if and when to “try again”, and even the pain of secondary infertility. We recognize that pregnancy is a delicate topic. We know that talking about pregnancy can be difficult and painful, especially when you’ve experienced the loss of a child at any age or gestation or if you’re facing infertility. Regardless of whether you are in a season of waiting, currently navigating through a pregnancy after loss, or do not have plans of becoming pregnant again, there is a place for you in this conversation and we’d be honored for you to join us. Episode 24: Pregnancy After Loss is now available on your favorite podcast apps.

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Who Am I Anymore? A Conversation on Identity | Ep. 23 Dec 11, 2018

There was a moment in time when everything changed. We'd imagine so many of you can relate when we say that our lives seem to be split into two major seasons--one before the diagnoses and deaths of our firstborn children and one after. Perhaps your moment was the day the doctor delivered the devastating diagnosis or the day you said goodbye to someone or something so very dear to you. While the deaths of our children demand the most grief, we’ve mourned the secondary losses of the people we were before we walked through such deep heartache. Like many of you, we’ve both found ourselves asking, “Who even am I anymore?” In today's episode, we're talking about identity--what it is, the parts of ourselves we lost with our children, the aspects of our identity we’ve gained, and the unchangeable core of our identity we can cling in each and every season.

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How to Support a Grieving Friend with Rachel George | Ep. 22 Nov 27, 2018

Today we're joined by our dear friend Rachel George to discuss practical, yet meaningful ways to support a hurting friend. We talk about the importance of stepping into the "mess" without being so quick to clean it up, the value in a good meal, and the way God comforts us so that we may comfort one another. Whether you are deep in the valley of grief, or walking alongside someone else who is, we'd love for you to join us as we chat about this further.

Find Rachel's blog post we referenced in this episode, as well as Rachel's other blog writings, here.

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Healing Pt. 4 - An Interview with Brittany Allen | Ep. 21 Nov 13, 2018

As we wrap up our 4-part series on prayer and healing, we’re chatting with our friend Brittany Allen about the treasure we have in Christ, even in seasons of loss and waiting. Brittany is a mama to three babies lost through miscarriage. Her hope is to make Christ her ultimate Treasure in every circumstance and encourage other women to do the same. Brittany candidly shares her story of multiple miscarriages, and the ways she wrestled with God as she lost her babies while He seemed to be prompting her and her husband to grow their family. Regardless of what this season looks like for you, we think you’ll be encouraged by Brittany’s heart and the Truth she shares for those of us in a season of waiting. Episode 21: Healing Pt. IV: An Interview with Brittany Allen is now available.

Visit Brittany's blog

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Ask Us Anything: Pregnancy & Infant Loss Awareness | Ep. 20 Oct 30, 2018

As we wrap up Pregnancy and Infant Loss Awareness Month, we're sharing our Facebook Live "Ask us Anything" session with our friend Sarah Rieke of the Heart Lessons Podcast as a podcast episode. Join us as we answer your questions regarding baby loss, including coping with anxiety during pregnancy after loss and navigating conversations with well-meaning friends and family. Episode 20: Ask us Anything is now available for download. [...and check back here in 2 weeks as Brittany Allen joins us to wrap up our 4-part series on prayer.]

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Healing Pt. 3 - When the Healing Doesn't Come | Ep. 19 Oct 16, 2018

In the last two episodes we’ve discussed the miracles of Jesus, culminating with the ultimate miracle of his resurrection. We’ve shared scriptural examples of why we are to pray, and heard a powerful testimony from a mama friend who witnessed God’s miraculous works in her life.

But what about when the healing doesn’t come?

We serve a God who has the power to do miraculous works in our lives and invites us to boldly approach his throne with our requests--so what can we cling to when the answer is “no”? How can we reconcile God’s goodness and the power of prayer with a miracle that never comes?

We invite you to join us as we continue in our 4-part series on prayer and healing. In our latest episode, we share the ways we wrestled with the purpose of prayer after losing our children, take a closer look at what the Bible says about prayer and submission, and point one another toward the unshakeable hope we have in Christ’s faithfulness even when the answer is “no”. Episode 19: Healing Pt 3: When the healing doesn’t come is now available.

Healing Pt. 2 - An Interview with Alex Johnson | Ep. 18 Oct 02, 2018

Today we’re hearing a personal testimony from our friend, Alex Johnson, At her 18-week anatomy scan, Alex learned that her daughter was missing an essential piece of her brain and would likely fight for her life. As she began to mentally prepare for an unbearable loss, Alex cried out to God for a miracle that would astonish her daughter’s medical team. We know that many of you did not receive the miracle you asked for. We understand that many of you may feel “burned” by God, after begging on your knees for healing. We’ve been there, friend--we’ve questioned, we’ve shaken our fists at the sky, and have asked why. We’ve battled against doubt--doubt that God hears us and that He has the power to heal. Oh friend, we’re with you--and we want to take your hand today and ever-so-gently remind you that God does hear you, He loves you, and He is sovereign over sickness and death. We feel led so strongly to share Alex’s story because it shows another side of prayer and God’s power--a side that many of us may have forgotten in our grief. Alex speaks with the utmost sincerity and humility as she shares the story of God’s miraculous work in her life, while acknowledging and aching with those of you who did not receive the miracle you hoped for. No matter your questions, your doubts, or your hurts, we invite you to join us to a special interview with our friend Alex.

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Healing Pt. 1 - Praying for a Miracle | Ep. 17 Sep 18, 2018

In the months following our sons' diagnoses, we often found ourselves on our knees praying for miracle. God, in all his loving kindness, chose to heal our children in the eternal sense rather than a physical one. Perhaps you’ve found yourself there too--perhaps you’ve prayed with such faith and been handed sorrow rather than the celebration you had hoped for. Perhaps you’ve even felt burned by God and have questioned the purpose of prayer. We’ve been there. Today we’re releasing the first in a four-part series on prayer and healing. Join us as we share more of our stories, explore what the Bible says about miracles and prayer, and point one another toward the unshakeable hope we have in Christ’s faithfulness even when the answer is “no”.

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Let's Catch Up | Ep. 16 Sep 04, 2018

We're back! In today's episode, we simply chat about the things God has been teaching us over the break and share more about Kristin's 10-week hospital stay prior to the birth of her son, Andrew. We get really real about our personal struggles with prayer after losing a child, our fears surrounding pregnancy after loss, the tension of having a healthy child after losing a sick baby, and the ways God is sufficient through every question, heartache, and valley. No matter what this season of life looks like for you now, we hope you'll be encouraged by our conversation and ultimately the hope we have in Christ.

Visit Kristin's blog for cute Andrew pictures and to read things she's shared about her time in the hospital with Andrew.

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Caroline Maclaga | Ep. 15 May 18, 2018

Our friend Caroline Maclaga joins us today to share her story of loss and the important role scripture played following the unexpected stillbirth of her firstborn daughter, Emma, and throughout her pregnancy with her second daughter, Nora. Caroline discusses the ways the Bible makes room for lament and sorrow, while drawing us toward the hope and joy we have in Christ. We hope you’ll be encouraged by Caroline’s story and the hope she has in Jesus.

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Daily Bread + An Announcement | Ep. 14 May 04, 2018

This episode takes on a different format as Holly announces the birth of Kristin's baby Andrew and recaps Kristin's 10 week journey on hospital bed rest to where she is now, in the NICU with baby Andrew, born at 32 weeks gestation. Holly shares about how she and Kristin have both been leaning into the concept of God's daily bread, and how "just enough" is also "abundantly enough."

For more of Kristin's current circumstances, visit her blog.

Holly's blog as referenced in this episode can be found here.

Vaneetha Risner's book The Scars That Have Shaped Me.

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The Grave | Ep. 13 Apr 20, 2018

Burying a child is perhaps one of the most painful and unnatural experiences a person could face. We expect our children to bury us, not the other way around. Yet when we look at the grave through the lens of the gospel, the grave truly has no merit from an eternal standpoint for those who are in Christ. Thanks to Christ--His death and resurrection--the grave has no power over those who know Him.

Join us as we candidly discuss our own experiences with the devastating process of burying a child, and explore the promises we have in scripture regarding the implications of Christ’s resurrection, our new bodies, and the gift of eternal life.

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Vaneetha Risner | Ep. 12 Apr 06, 2018

In this week’s episode, Vaneetha Risner joins us to share her story of suffering and sanctification, and the comfort we have in Christ. Vaneetha has been a sort of spiritual mentor to us from afar through her writings, and we cannot wait for you to hear her story. When faced with unimaginable suffering, Vaneetha cried out to God to spare her. In the depth of her pain, Vaneetha found God’s sustaining grace. We think you’ll be encouraged by Vaneetha’s words, just as we have been.

Check out Vaneetha's book, The Scars that have Shaped Me, available for purchase or free download.

Visit Vaneetha's website and browse the blog posts she's written for Desiring God and other organizations.

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Surrender | Ep. 11 Mar 23, 2018

We don't know about you, but we like to be in control.

While our hearts yearn to live a life of full surrender to God, this hasn't always been easy. Time and time again we find ourselves desperately clinging to certain areas of our lives, rather than wholly entrusting every detail to an all-powerful God. Yet even in this struggle, we are gently called us to lay everything down at His feet--the big things and the small things. We see this call over and over again in the gospels, as Jesus calls his followers to lay themselves down--or in other words, to surrender--and to follow him.

Episode 11: Surrender is now available on iTunes and Stitcher. Come join us as we discuss what it means to surrender, why God calls us to surrender, and also discuss why it has been so frustratingly difficult for us to do.

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#Blessed | Ep. 10 Mar 09, 2018

The hashtag pops up frequently as we scroll through our social media feeds. It’s often found tagged on photos of smiling families, cozy homes, new cars, and exciting life events. #Blessed.

The posters behind these photos are indeed blessed. All of those earthly gifts--friendships, comfort, success, provision--are unmerited gifts from God that we don’t deserve and could never earn on our own. Each of these gifts certainly warrant gratitude and giving Him all the glory. But this is only part of the picture.

You lose your house. The cancer returns. Your child becomes ill. Your friends turn their back on you. Your baby dies. We’d rarely feel inclined to add a #blessed to those posts, but the truth remains. In our suffering and in our pain, He is still good and we are still blessed.

Episode 10: #Blessed is now available. We hope you’ll join us as we candidly share ways the phrase “so blessed” has stung since losing our sons, dig deeper into the definition of a “blessing”, and talk about the greatest blessing of all.

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The Gift of Community | Ep. 09 Feb 06, 2018

We've found such encouragement through the communities around us--our small groups, our churches, our families, and even in online communities just like this. Being in community is arguably the main way that we show Christ’s love to others--in loving others and serving others, people both inside and outside the Kingdom will know that we belong to God.

In this episode, we dive deeper into the concept of community--why it's important, the challenges that come with it, and how to be more intentional about creating community in each of our own lives, especially in the wake of trials and suffering. Regardless of whether you've lost a child or not, we think this one will be relatable to most of us! (Because we've all experienced suffering to some level, am I right?)

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Here is Holly's blog post mentioned in the episode.

Parenting After Loss | Ep. 08 Jan 23, 2018

Loss mama--You are seen. You still matter. You are loved.

As we think about our friends, our sisters, our own mothers, and the women in our communities, it is clear that motherhood is beautifully unique for each person. It isn't limited to having living children on earth, or even having carried a baby in your womb. In this beautiful fabric of unique circumstances, there is so much we can learn from one another as we all strive toward living well and glorifying God with the lives we’ve been given--even when our lives look messy and complicated.

Loss is definitely messy and complicated. Perhaps it has caused you to question your identity as a mother. Perhaps it has raised new challenges in explaining death, heaven, and Jesus to your living children. Perhaps it has transformed the innocent question of "How many children do you have?" into a complicated minefield.

Whether you are chasing after little ones at home or mothering with empty arms, join us for Episode 8: Parenting After Loss now available on iTunes and Stitcher.

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Sarah Rieke | Ep. 07 Jan 09, 2018

This week's episode features an interview with Sarah Rieke. Sarah is mama to 5 with 2 in heaven. We know you'll be moved by Sarah's testimony of Christ's sustenance throughout her life and journey of loss. Sarah's writings have been featured on many platforms including Still Standing and Mothering Beyond Expectations. She also has a podcast, the Heart Lessons podcast, which is definitely worth checking out.

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Why Did God Let My Baby Die? | Ep. 06 Dec 26, 2017

We're tackling one of the most difficult questions we've been faced with. If God is truly sovereign and loving, why do bad things happen? Particularly, where was God when our babies died?

We have both been prayerfully planning for this episode for weeks. We know this topic is sensitive and may stir up a wide spectrum of emotions. We also do not expect to completely or perfectly answer this question in an hour. Our hope is simply to start the conversation and point one another toward the truth we have in scripture. Our prayer is that this dialogue serves as a launch pad for continued conversations with others in our day-to-day lives--our friends, our small groups, our pastors.

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Hope When the Holidays Hurt | Ep. 05 Dec 12, 2017

We discuss the ways Christmas has changed for us since losing our sons, share what we struggle with and what brings us joy this time of year, and share listener ideas of practical ways to include the memory of our lost loved ones into our holiday traditions. Whether this time of year fills your heart with excitement, sorrow, or perhaps a little bit of both, we invite you to join us as we navigate this often bittersweet season.

http://www.sunlightindecember.com/2015/12/wake-me-up-when-december-ends.html

https://lessonsfrombenji.wordpress.com/2015/12/24/how-im-really-doing-this-christmas/

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Savoring the Season You Didn't Choose | Ep. 04 Nov 28, 2017

Life doesn’t often go according to our well-laid plans. How can we find joy and contentment when our lives don’t look how we want them to? In this episode, we discuss ways to find joy and contentment when the Lord calls us into seasons of life that we wouldn't have necessarily chosen.

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People Say the Darnedest Things | Ep. 03 Nov 14, 2017

People say the darndest things, especially when you’re grieving.

In this episode, we talk about the hurtful things well-intentioned people say to the heartbroken and ways to gently educate and lift one another up through our responses. Whether you are hurting or walking alongside someone who is, we invite you to join us as we navigate a minefield of awkward (yet well-intentioned) phrases.

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Our Stories | Ep.02 Nov 02, 2017

In this episode, we, Holly & Kristin, share our stories of suffering, including infertility, miscarriage, and child-loss. We talk about how our view of the Gospel has been shaped and changed as a result of our suffering, and we invite you to join us on social media to share your stories with us. Don't forget to leave us a rating and review to help spread the word to others who would benefit from this show!

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Introductions | Ep. 01 Oct 31, 2017

Welcome to the Through the Lens Podcast: Gospel-driven conversations on hope in the heartache, where two child-loss mamas discuss suffering and sanctification. No matter what shape your suffering takes, we invite you to join us in authentic conversation as we navigate through the trials of this life, keeping our eyes fixed on the hope of heaven. Tune in to hear how the show came about and what you can expect from future episodes.

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