Songs & Stories Podcast

The mosh pit of American Politics Oct 14, 2024

Kervin from the Podcast This Week Explained joins the boys to talk about music fests and how the world might end. The election, Russia, China, Ukraine, Taiwan and more! We discuss it all!

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Furnace Fest and WWWY! Sep 30, 2024

On this episode the guys talk about how Furnace Fest and When We Were Young are alike, and different, and how nostalgia is so important to music these days

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Cutting Grass is Cool? Sep 24, 2024

On this episode the guys take about how being older and being into lawn maintenance is actually cool. Also fasting makes you sad. Maybe food is just a tool to run away from the pain. Also check out Emerymusic.com for our new merch line!

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Do you Hate The People Who Are Late Sep 10, 2024

On This Episode we find out that Matt can’t be on time and is no respecter of time. Toby shows his marching band photo from 1991 and the guys are, and aren’t, worried about their kids growing up.

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All relationships are transactional Sep 02, 2024

Riding through the middle of nowhere Texas, has us thinking about relationships, proper hugging etiquette, and Matt’s Birthday!

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The Future of Music, Tech, and Politics Jul 29, 2024

Everyone wants to hear from us about what the future will look like! So we oblige! Will emo matter in the next few years? Will Donald or Kamala become emo? Is AI emo? We have all the emo answers and more!

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We Back Jul 24, 2024

Tour is an animal that brings you joy and fulfilment but also makes men in their 40s feel like men in their 40s. Whats the longest amount of time you’ve been away from home over the course of a year? Is traveling constantly something that is amazing and healthy or more like A debate between Donald Trump and Joe Biden?

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We Are Inevitable Jun 24, 2024

You ever heard of a third eye well devin has a stink eye. We get into the weeds about touring and being dads. Getting older is easy, it’s the getting colder that keeps you up at night.

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What Dove Huck Jun 03, 2024

On This show the boys talk about your mom. She’s sooooooooo awesome and we love her to death but also…..she farts a lot. Like uncomfortably a lot. They also gossip a lot about Stephen Christian and Matty Mullins. Not really but man could they.

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Devin Disappoints May 28, 2024

The boys are back from tour. Devin shows up 3 mins late and gets fired. Toby talks about pre work. Work you have to do before you do the job so that you are set up for a win. Obviously Devin doesn’t have the same work ethic. But seriously Devin amitrite?!?

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Emery’s Hits and Misses Pt 2. May 06, 2024

In the episode Matt joins the Nostalgic Emo Dads to react to their episode and set straight some of the philosophy and decision making that is the Emery way.

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Emery's Hits and Misses Pt:1 : Nostalgic Emo Dad's May 06, 2024

Matt: I recently encountered this deep dive on Emery's catalog and career from the Nostalgic Emo Dad's podcast. It was such a trip to hear real fans speaking very honestly about our life's work both positive and negative. After I heard it I hit them up and told them I wanted to do an episode reacting to theirs with them. I loved hearing it and thought the fans of this pod would like to see where they agree and disagree with these takes. This is the original episode of theirs, and to follow will be the episode with me and them together.

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It’s The Damn News! Apr 29, 2024

Gawking at genitals, AI deep fakes getting people, should homeless people go to jail in Oregon and so much more! The guys are on fire for this episode and so grab a drink and some popcorn and let’s go!

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What is music? Apr 22, 2024

On this episode Lavar Burton stops by to talk about the importance of creativity in writing hardcore songs. But you don’t have to take my word for it. Also devin talks in depth about Ukraine.

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Angry Milf’s!! Apr 17, 2024

Have you seen The Macropodine Inclusive Labefaction Festival Announcement!?!?! Emery is not on it even though we really had high hopes to play that fest and let us tell you people are angry we aren’t. We talk about those angry milfs and also give thanks for being the 4th best band ever according to most polls.

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Time for Tuna Apr 08, 2024

On this episode the guys talk about hunting tuna in the Berring Strait. Devin relives his chance encounter with Barron Trump and Matt talked about changing the bearings in his 1995 Suzuki. Also Join Emeryland!

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Aaron Gillespie joins the show! Apr 01, 2024

Is touring over? Are ours bands over? Are the guys jaded? On this episode the guys are joined by Aaron Gillespie to talk tour life, music industry realities, and why Toby is the Taylor Swift of eating donuts.

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Toby Puts The “Hustle” In “Side Hustle” PART DEUX Mar 13, 2024

The conversation continues with this sneak peak of Songs & Stories Part Deux. Head over to Emerymusic.com to join Emeryland for weekly bonus podcasts, exclusive offers, exclusive Emery performances, and a lot more!

Toby has about five new business ideas every week. This week he took a leap of faith and bought Hawthorne Height’s screen printing rig, so now what? Now that the stakes have become real his motivation is real and his self talk is moving in a positive direction.

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Toby Puts The “Hustle” In “Side Hustle” Mar 13, 2024

Toby has about five new business ideas every week. This week he took a leap of faith and bought Hawthorne Height’s screen printing rig, so now what? Now that the stakes have become real his motivation is real and his self talk is moving in a positive direction.

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Archeologists Have Discovered! Mar 04, 2024

If we told you there were 300 billion stars in the universe you would believe us, but if we told you the paint was still wet you would have to touch it to believe us. So, your mom, who is so old that when she was born the Dead Sea was still just getting sick, shouldn’t listen to this.

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World Four Three Feb 25, 2024

Is it the end? What steps do you need to take to not only survive the coming maelstrom but how to make sure you get to heaven instead of the other place. Also we talk about touring!

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What is life and other dumb sh@t Feb 19, 2024

The guys get real about what the political imbalance in the emerging nations has done to create a divided chronomonical system. Just kidding.

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Words Man! Feb 12, 2024

This week Toby says he has nothing to talk about. But that ain’t true! The boys discuss words you can and can’t say and how much language and culture influence how we see the world.

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The Damn News!! Jan 29, 2024

The guys are here to deliver the news you need and the other networks avoid. Join us for stories that will make you think and stories that will make you cry and stories that will make you join EmeryLand!

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Set list! Jan 22, 2024

Set list!

On this live episode we discuss our upcoming Songs & Stories set list. There’s a few surprise songs!

Also, we have An update about The Weak’s End merch and how much all of our old records help us continue to be a band today.

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Help! Are these t-shirt designs any good? Jan 15, 2024

This week your favorite 3 old men went live on the Facebooks and showed new merch designs we might use for The Weaks End which is 20 years old! Come join us as we pullback the curtain and send us your favorite designs!

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We’re back! Jan 08, 2024

We took a much needed break but are coming in hot for the New Year. Let’s get existential, exegesis, and extra crazy!

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Hanging with the Homies Nov 27, 2023

Matt, Toby, and Devin get real, get honest, and toasty…maybe. Being in a band, being a dad, being below average IQ isn’t all it’s cracked up to be. This is a fun episode you don’t want to miss cause we are all over the place and you will see if we can land it.

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FROM THE VAULT - Happy Thanksgiving! Nov 22, 2023

This week the guys are busy cooking turkey and rehearsing for their next tour. Please enjoy this classic episode from the vault!

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You like a strong roast? Nov 13, 2023

We give two new bands a chance to test fate and see if they can withstand a barrage of our criticisms. Join us for a laugh out loud episode and send in your music!

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The Damn News! Nov 06, 2023

This week Toby brings the heat with news you need now. From Floridians falling from the sky, to lottery heartbreak you do not want to miss this. We also talk about Mark Driscoll and how churches and pastors can turn their eyes from real issues.

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Bonus Episode! LABELED: Garrett Russell - SILENT PLANET Nov 03, 2023

Ever wonder what Matt gets up to when he’s not podcasting with the guys? Surprise! He’s podcasting with other people. Please enjoy this crossover episode of Labeled, Matt’s other podcast (it’s okay, we’re not the jealous type). On this episode Matt interviews Garrett Russell, singer of Silent Planet, about crashing their van in Wyoming, their new record “Superbloom”, and highly evolved beings called “ultra-terrestrials”.

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The Bubonic Chronic Song Draft Oct 30, 2023

On this episode we draft our favorite songs to get blitzed to. We’re talking Classic Rock, Rap, pop, and more! Join us as we go down the rabbit hole.

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Times Have Changed Oct 25, 2023

The guys reflect on the early days of Emery doing whatever it took to get signed and how that hardly even matters anymore. Devin and Toby saw a scary movie for the first time in a while and the guys throw a couple bands on the fire for a good ole roast

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Life is Supposed to Be Hard Oct 16, 2023

Matt McDonald from the Classic Crime joins the show to talk about life, fasting and doin g hard things for future you.

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Haste The Day! Oct 09, 2023

The guys are joined by Stephen and Brennen from Haste The Day. We reminisce about touring together, tour pranks, how good Furnace Fest was for them after not playing for 8 years and our upcoming huge California shows.

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Roast Away, Boys Oct 05, 2023

On this episode we roast two pretty damn good songs but also help these bands realize they will never be Emery or NickelBack. We also talk life, movies and so much more. Just play the episode and quit reading this.

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We Back! Sep 25, 2023

On this episode we talk about how we grew up with agendas within the church and how now we are worried proselytizing a pushing agendas might be in many places and not just Sunday morning. We also talk about a lot of other sh%z. So listen and subscribe!

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Part Deux - Sample Sep 13, 2023

Enjoy this bonus episode of Part Duex. If you enjoy this bonus episode and want extra content every week, head over to emerymusic.com and sign up for EmeryLand today!

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FROM THE VAULT - It's All Over Aug 29, 2023

This week please enjoy one of our classic episodes!

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The inaugural episode of It’s All Over is here! Devin, Matt, Toby, and their sad friend Lundsford talk about life, Tim Lambesis’ new wife, high thoughts and much, much more.

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FROM THE VAULT - #504 The Hard Times with Founder Matt Saincome Aug 22, 2023

FROM THE VAULT - Please enjoy this rebroadcast of one of our all-time favorite episodes this week!

As DIY musicians, we've been fans of The Hard Times for awhile now, so it was a pleasure to have Matt Saincome on to talk about his use of comedy and their non-political way of testing what material gets used or not.

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Favorite Foreign Music and The Damn News! Aug 17, 2023

After Devins trip to Mexico he can’t stop listening to Mexican music. The guys discuss their favorite foreign styles and Toby delivers some of the hardest hitting news ever.

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Spa-tacular! Aug 09, 2023

On this episode the guys talk about their recent trip to the spa, their alien sighting while at Is For Lovers Fest, and much, much more!

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The Worst Band Members Ever! Jul 25, 2023

On this episode we draft the worst band members by instrument. Who will be the worst guitarists, bassists, drummers, singers, and even the whole bands!?! Buckle up cause this gets wild.

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TOP FIVE SEX POSITIONS YOU SHOULD TRY TONIGHT Jul 17, 2023

CROSSOVER EPISODE with Toby's other podcast SEX 101!

How many positions can you try in one night? Hey, hey, hey! Just try one maybe? Either way this episode give you some great sex positions to try no matter if you’re athletic or like Toby and have an amazing Dad Bod!

Send your listener questions, that are answered anonymously each episode, to toby@marriagesupply.com or stormy@lovedeeplab.com

Also send us topics you would like to see us cover in an episode and we will do so! What do you want to learn more about? What is a question you have in the bedroom but might have been afraid to ask?

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Roast-A-Geddon! Jul 10, 2023

What brave bands sent in their songs for us to devour this week? Well you are about to find out. It’s Rock-N-Roast time

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Want New Emery Songs? Jun 27, 2023

On this live episode we show you the demos for our new record. They are rough and rowdy but we know you’re going to love them just as much as we do. So come join us and hear the new songs before they are recorded.

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Emery’s New Record! Jun 19, 2023

We play some new music, in its embarrassing demo form, but we do it! We want to share with you where we are at and where we are headed musically. So buckle up cause you probably have never heard Emery like this.

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Stories You’ve Never Heard Jun 12, 2023

On this episode we tell stories from behind the scenes of making In Shallow Seas We Sail. We break down song lyrics, song composition, where we were at mentally and emotionally and so much more. You don’t want to miss this special episode.

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Let’s Rock N Roast Jun 06, 2023

Our best friend Matt Macdonald from The Classic Crime stops by this week to discuss touring this summer, making records, and of course we have two new victims to who sent in their masterpieces for us to demolish. You’re gonna love it.

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The Damn News Battle May 29, 2023

This week Kervin from the podcast This Week Explained stops by to challenge Toby to a News battle. Kervin picked the wrong MF’er to mess with. Sit back and get ready for world news, music news, and watch the master teach the student how to deliver the info you need.

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We Destroy Two New Bands May 22, 2023

It’s Rock N Roast time again! This week we annihilate two more bands and also talk about touring and life. Remember to join EmeryLand because we do an amazing Music Draft that you don’t want to miss.

Songs And Stories is hitting the road. We'll be in:

Tuscon, AZ - May 25th

San Diego, CA - May 26th

Orange County, CA - May 27th *Matinee Show*

Los Angeles, CA - May 28th *Matinee Show*

San Fransisco, CA - June 21st

Fresno, CA - June 22nd

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Rock And Roast May 15, 2023

So many of you sent us your band’s songs and so you asked for this! On this week’s show we destroy and try to offer some help for unsigned bands songs. The drummer from the band As Cities Burn says so many mean things and so may God forgive him and maybe the bands can too. Remember to subscribe and join EmeryLand

Songs And Stories is hitting the road. We'll be in:

Tucson, AZ - May 25th

San Diego, CA - May 26th

Orange County, CA - May 27th *Matinee Show*

Los Angeles, CA - May 28th *Matinee Show*

San Francisco, CA - June 21st

Fresno - June 22nd

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Sex 101: All About Anal May 08, 2023

Songs & Stories is taking the week off so we're giving you one of Toby's favorite episodes from his new pod, Sex 101! Toby and his co-host Dr Stormy, provide you with the adult sex ed that we all need. And this episode is all about anal!

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Curious about the back door but don’t know where to start? In today’s episode Stormy and Toby give you the what, why and how of anal play.

- Facts about anal play

- Benefits of anal play

- The prep is key

- Tips and advice to make it amazingly pleasurable

The team also answers listener questions about what is “good sex”, fantasizing during self-play, how to talk to your kids about sex, and tips for public sex.

We love and welcome ALL your questions! Submit your question to be answered anonymously to ⁠toby@marriagesupply.com⁠ or ⁠stormy@lovedeeplab.com⁠. And feel free to email in with some sex ed topics and we will be sure to tackle in an episode.

To receive Dr. Stormy’s Sex drive building guide with worksheet, video and meditation just email stormy@lovedeeplab.com and she will send the guide.

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Your Mom is a Liar May 01, 2023

We all wouldn't be here without our moms but...damn do moms lie! Remember when she told you that you were special and that one day you'd make a difference in the world? Now you're on the couch watching Love is Blind and eating Totinos Pizza Rolls. This has nothing to do with the episode by man your life is going like you hoped.

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Songs and Stories is hitting the road. We'll be in:

Tucson, AZ - May 25th

San Diego, CA - May 26th

Orange County, CA - May 27th *Matinee Show*

Los Angeles, CA - May 28th *Matinee Show*

San Francisco, CA - June 21st

Fresno - June 22nd

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How To Ruin Your Band Apr 24, 2023

Toby broke down in Asheville NC while transporting all of Emery’s merchandise. He think God is smoting him because of his divorce. Also Mick Mars is suing Motley Crue and we talk about the time we went to Mick's house in Malibu and wrote some songs with him.

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Emo Gods Emery & Hawthorne Heights Apr 17, 2023

Hawthorne Heights are so stupid. They are so dumb that they started their own festival. Yes, it is a massive success. Big whoop dee doo. Emery once had Dexter from The Offspring on our bus so we’re not sweating it either. JT from Hawthorne and Ben our mutual booking agent stop by to talk about how they Jimmy Eat World and so many other bands on these festival dates and how to run a successful Fest.

Toby is taking over shipping! We're celebrating with Toby's Big Package Sale! Get 25% off a collection of merch with code BIGPACKAGE now through Sunday

We're so hyped for all the Is For Lovers Fests we'll be playing at this year! Grab your tickets now

Toby has a new podcast called Sex 101 with Dr Stormy. It's pretty great and you should listen

Dr Stormy is having a sale on her CBD Infused Lube! Use code MARRIAGESUPPLY20 to get 20% off

Our collab with Sheet Happens is out now! Grab a guitar and bass transcription for Rub Some Dirt On It

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Tiktok is the New Music Label Apr 10, 2023

Our good friend Esteban of the band Slow Joy joins us to talk about how bands get found these days, how the music industry is changing, how to go viral with music and video and can bands make money these days. Also, if you're not a member of Emeryland, join now because you don't want to miss the bonus episode of Part Duex this week.

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The Time Matt Left His Body Apr 04, 2023

On this episode we tell a crazy tour story about Matt passing out in a movie theater, Toby brings us some hot new Damn News including Boy George getting sued and we do a mini draft to decide the coolest baseball player from the 90s

Listen to the new Songs We Love EP

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Dogs Are Never Wrong Mar 27, 2023

Our new EP that includes covers of Everlong, My Future, Superstition, and more is out now for Emeryland so join now! Tickets are selling fast for Seattle show on April 2nd where we will be playing Ins Shallow Seas We Sail in its entirety. Go to EmeryMusic.com for tickets

On this episode we tell some tour stories that involve alcohol and flashlights and Sloss Furnace.

On HighThoughts this week we discuss Spotify tracking us, how much money Emery would have made if they owned all their music and got a cut of the bar at shows where they brought 700 people, and how dogs are never wrong.

Pre-save the Songs We Love release!

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Marriage Negotiations Mar 20, 2023

What's the craziest DM you've ever received? The guys share theirs, with Matt's being very awkward. They also discuss renegotiating your marriage and making expiring marriage contracts. Lastly, Lundsford admits he's been stealing money from Emery for year just by being Lundsford.

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Grim Age Mar 13, 2023

Matt Macdonald joins the show to talk about The Classic Crime's new album, Grim Age. We talk about all of us being on a "Christian" label, answer the most asked questions like where'd you get your band's name, and Part Duex gets even crazier so sign up for Emeryland! https://emerymusic.com/pages/join-emeryland

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Draft #3 - Pump It Up Songs Mar 06, 2023

The Music Draft is back! The boys take a break from the normal cutting up and are drafting Pump Up Songs. Make sure and go vote for who won start on Tuesday in the Emeryland or Labeled Facebook group.

Get your tickets for the Vancouver Songs & Stories Show on 3/30

Seattle Shallow Seas Show - TICKETS

Listen to our new cover of Billie Eilish's - My Future

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Toby has a new podcast! Sex 101 with Dr Stormy! They take listener questions about anything! You can email your questions over to tobybadchristian@gmail.com or Stormy@lovedeeplab.com LISTEN

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Furnace Fest 2023 Lineup Reactions with Chad and Johnny of FF Feb 23, 2023

Special drop here. Devin and Matt got the chance to preview the FF lineup and have Chad Johnson and Johnny Grimes join the show so we could all react to it together. No Emery is not on it, but still, we love the fest and we love Chad and Johnny and just like talking about all these bands, the history of the scene and fest and the future of it all!

Get your tickets at https://www.furnacefest.us/

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Pre-save our new cover, My Future https://ffm.to/my-future.LOR

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Toby has a new podcast! Sex 101 with Dr Stormy! They take listener questions about anything! You can email your questions over to tobybadchristian@gmail.com or Stormy@lovedeeplab.com Listen here: https://pods.to/sex-101.LOR

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The Surro-Gate Trial Feb 21, 2023

We confront Chris from Emery because apparently he has been hiding songs and using them for his own band Surrogate. He even has a new album out called Space Mountain! Like WTF! We’re Emery dude, we’re old and we need all the songs we can get. Also, Lundsford’s band is still broken up. Hahahahaha!

Listen to Surrogate!

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Toby has a new podcast! Sex 101 with Dr Stormy! They take listener questions about anything! You can email your questions over to tobybadchristian@gmail.com or Stormy@lovedeeplab.com Listen here: https://pods.to/sex-101.LOR

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Joe Biden Visits The Show! Feb 13, 2023

On this episode Joe Biden stops by to talk about Yemen, his favorite Hunter Biden stories, what is the deal with Putin, and how much of a relief it is to know Jesus is Lord. Also the guys talk about negative thought patterns that stop creativity and how Joe Rogan made fun of Toby for getting divorced.

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Our new cover of Everlong is out now! https://ffm.to/everlong-emery.LOR

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Toby has a new podcast! Sex 101 with Dr Stormy! They take listener questions about anything! You can email your questions over to tobybadchristian@gmail.com or Stormy@lovedeeplab.com Listen here: https://pods.to/sex-101.LOR

The guys want your Ask and You Shall Receive questions! You can send them to hello@emerymusic.com

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Stories from Living Room Shows Feb 06, 2023

Playing living room shows has changed how bands can tour. The guys talk about how fun and memorable the shows have been and make the experiences so different for everyone. Plus we answer some Ask and You Shall Receive questions from listeners.

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Our new cover of Everlong is out now! https://ffm.to/everlong-emery.LOR

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Toby has a new podcast! Sex 101 with Dr Stormy! They take listener questions about anything! You can email your questions over to tobybadchristian@gmail.com or Stormy@lovedeeplab.com Listen here: https://pods.to/sex-101.LOR

The guys want your Ask and You Shall Receive questions! You can send them to hello@emerymusic.com

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Chris Dudley from Underoath Jan 31, 2023

What’s your personal studio like? What is it like to write a score for a movie? Will AI make human creativity obsolete? And High Thoughts!

This is your last chance to get tickets for our Birmingham Songs & Stories show! It's a matinee that starts at 2:00 PM this Sunday. Get your tickets here

Our new cover of Everlong is out now!

Save 10% at Marriage Supply by using code ALLOVER

Toby has a new podcast! Sex 101 with Dr Stormy! They take listener questions about anything! You can email your questions over to tobybadchristian@gmail.com or Stormy@lovedeeplab.com

The guys want your Ask and You Shall Receive questions! You can send them to hello@emerymusic.com

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The Can Abyss Jan 24, 2023

This episode the guys talk about the Devil’s Lettuce. Lundsford crap shoot of getting a good high or spiraling into panic. Also we have to bleep Lundsford and do the longest CTA ever. Part Deux is even crazier.

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Feb 3 - Nashville, TN (Sold Out)
Feb 4 - Atlanta, GA (Sold Out)
Feb 5 - Birmingham, AL (Matinee)
Mar 2 - Columbus, OH
Mar 3 - Pittsburgh, PA
Mar 4 - Philadelphia, PA (Sold Out)
Mar 5 - New York City, NY (Matinee)
Mar 29 - Portland, OR
Mar 30 - Vancouver, BC

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Sleeping with Sirens and groupies Jan 16, 2023

The guys sit down with Kellen Quinn from Sleeping with Sirens and talk about being dads and not sleeping with groupies and how our music careers have changed throughout the years. Also, don’t miss Part Duex because this one is a Duexzy.

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Lundsford Puts The Anal in Root Canal Jan 09, 2023

Lundsford has lived with tooth pain for 2 years it’s finally time to face the dentist. Toby also has a scare with his eyesight. Matt is at his childhood home sneaking around going through his dads things and Devin proves he’s a better actor than Kevin Costner

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Emo's Not Dead for Matt Cutshall Jan 02, 2023

Instagram/YouTube Creator, Matt Cutshall, hangs with the fellas to talk about becoming a social media star, creating the Emo's Not Dead brand, and how amazing Emery is to the world, especially Toby.

You can check out everything Matt is up to on his WEBSITE and INSTAGRAM

Follow all of Emo's Not Dead socials:
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TWITTER
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The Emo's Not Dead Cruise was literally the best experience of our lives, you can join the pre-sale for the 2024 cruise HERE

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It’s All Over for 2022 Dec 16, 2022

We look back on the year for the last episode of 2022. Devin’s dad and brother died, Toby got divorced and Matt is now his mother-in-law’s caretaker and best friend. So much happened this year, good and bad, including the birth of It’s All Over. Thanks for taking the ride with us. Merry Christmas, ya filthy animals

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Music Biz with JT Woodruff (Hawthorne Heights) Dec 05, 2022

Our good buddy JT Woodruff joins us to talk about the business side of music. We chat about their newly successful festival Is For Lovers, how DIY mentality sustains careers and why most bands are poor.

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When Logan Attacks Nov 22, 2022

Our Hetero Lifemate Logan is back to talk about wieners only being for peeing

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It’s Not All Over For Emo…Yet Nov 17, 2022

The boys finally get their sea legs on the Emo’s Not Dead Cruise! Devin, Matt and Lunsford reflect on their many visits to the spa, while Toby talks about his naps, the buffet and not hooking up with any ladies

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The Magic Clit Nov 10, 2022

In episode 2 of Sex 101, the Sex Ed you wish you had, we dive into the magic of the clitoris, including things you likely don't know about this amazing organ. We debunk a common sex myth, and answer a slew of the questions you all wrote in including rimming, sex toys, how to do dirty talk, and more!

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It’s All Over with Tim McTague and Nate Young (Underoath and Anberlin) Nov 07, 2022

Tim from Underoath and Nate from Anberlin join us to talk about King State, their collaborative coffee and beer business that isn’t nearly as successful as our podcast. We have a helluva convo about When we were young fest, Live Nation, and our upcoming Christmas Songs and Stories at their brewery called The Brutalist.

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Toby’s starting a college Nov 01, 2022

Toby feels too far removed from college so he’s going to start his own. The guys answer some awesome ask and you shall receive questions and toby is looking for a full makeover team to help him look his best.

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It’s Actually All Over For Real with Kervin Aucoin: Intelligence Analyst Oct 25, 2022

We talk to Kervin Aucoin, our friend and Intelligence Analyst (This Week Explained podcast) about Russia and Ukraine and it ain’t lookin good. Is Nuclear war imminent? How do we prepare for an uncertain future? Will Aliens step in and stop it or is it Game Over for the simulation?!?

https://www.aucoinanalytics.com/post/protecting-yourself-and-others-from-a-nuclear-blast

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Dunzo Oct 17, 2022

Sober October is upon us, Lunsford absolutely loves and has to spend money and Toby tries to make everyone cry with a sad announcement but nobody was really listening so tell us what he said.

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It's Sex 101! Oct 14, 2022

Sex. It’s such a small word but can cause big issues. That’s why Sex 101 is here to help. Each week Dr. Stormy and Toby answer your questions about sex, intimacy, communication, kinks, toys, and so much more. This week we discuss supplemental porn, how to bring up sex toys with your partner, and phone addiction. Dr Stormy Website: www.lovedeeperlab.com Tiktok: @TouchySubjectsss IG: @lovedeeplab Get 10% off at MarriageSupply.com with code SEX101 Email your questions to us at toby@marriagesupply.com --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/songs-and-stories/support

Nothing is Real Oct 10, 2022

Old man Carter loves to eat and breathe heavily into the mic, Toby has been known to bury blunts and Dr. Stormy joins us to answer listener sex questions and also shares her 12 hour meditation experience

Do you have a sex question for Stormy? Or an Ask and You Shall Receive question for the guys? You can email them into us at hello@emerymusic.com OR if you’d like to record a message to play on the pod, go to https://anchor.fm/its-all-over/message to record and send us a voice memo!

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Draft # 1 - Tooth and Nail / Solid State Songwriters Oct 07, 2022

It’s the inaugural music draft! Matt Carter and Devin Shelton join to make their picks for a team of songwriters from the Tooth and Nail / Solid State universe. Lots of weirdness in this one, as we are friends with and have played in bands with people who are eligible to be drafted.

Voting will go up 24 hours after this episode airs in both the Labeled FB Group and the Emeryland FB Group. It's free to join the groups so hop in and cast your vote!

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Just Milk It! Oct 03, 2022

Some diseases and sicknesses you just got to milk. Toby has to show his belly to student doctors. Lundsford might owe the government a lot of money for his femur and he tells us about his time in New Orleans and Furnace Fest.

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We In The Van! w/Micah and Aaron Sep 26, 2022

Micah from Oh Sleeper, the better Aaron join us to talk about not trusting the medical world but also how good CBT Therapy has been so good. Also your stories and we sing an old Sea Shanty Devin wrote.

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Satan is Real w/Aaron Gillespie Sep 21, 2022

Matt eats salt for fun, Gillespie’s hit stories, Satan is behind conspiracies, and would we live with a fan for money.

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When It Was All Over For Emery Sep 12, 2022

The guys reminisce about how Devin quit Emery, Toby figures out he's been wrong for years about his love language, and Devin throws a rich ass house party and didn't invite Toby.

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FTW It’s All Over Sep 06, 2022

Toby makes fun of how Lundsford spends his money, The Damn News, and we party pretty hard

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The Trinity Sep 01, 2022

Let’s face it the only reason you listen to this podcast is Me, Devin, and Carter. Lundsford is a piece of S#@t. On this episode we talk about touring, how bad music fans are at sports, and how we most certainly have CTE.

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Gillespie is Back! Aug 23, 2022

We re riding down the road in the middle of the California Desert so we decide to record a pod! We talk about ways we almost died, how Aaron has been working through some difficult weeks, and an insane bridge jumping story from an UnderOath Tour

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What makes a band a band? Aug 15, 2022

The guys find out who has the most streamed song ever and where does Memphis May Fire rank? Can Toby name all the song title off of Rub Some Dirt On It and we lead Lundsford to Christ.

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Eggs Erroneous Aug 08, 2022

Toby doesn’t think Emery is anyone’s favorite band. Southern dad’s always let you know when Biden has Covid. Matt belittles breakfast foods and Devin isn’t having it. Also we lead Lundsford to Christ.

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Emery and Hawthorne Heights are All Over Aug 02, 2022

Matt Ridenour from Hawthorne Heights hangs out! We talk about how the lyric “Hey There” is a key to writing hits, High Thoughts, clubbers send in foreign words for nether regions and we lead Ridenour to Christ.

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For Comedy Jul 26, 2022

We are the best comedians on the planet and this episode proves it. We bleep the good stuff because of Biden. Jesus is Lord.

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For Matt MacDonald Jul 18, 2022

Mac joins the show and we talk about the horrors of social media, growing up with racists, and being in the two greatest rock bands of this or any other generation. Also, Lundsford shows up out of nowhere and tries to hijack the show.

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For Aaron Gillespie Jul 12, 2022

Aaron Gillespie is the best drummer and person named Aaron that we’ve ever had on the show. It’s just great to have an awesome Aaron for a change. Like this episode really made us happy.

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#634 It’s Been A Trip So Far Jun 27, 2022

The BadChristian Podcast has been life changing. It’s connected more people than we ever thought it could and has had some really bad moments. Pun intended. Toby and Matt reminisce about BC’s history and discuss the present and future

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#633 Dopamine Nation Jun 15, 2022

Anna Lembke is a psychiatrist, author, and Chief of the Stanford Addiction Medicine Dual Diagnosis Clinic at Stanford University. Almost sadly, she is a specialist in the opioid epidemic in the United States and her books include Drug Dealer, MD, How Doctors Were Duped, Patients Got Hooked, and Why It’s So Hard to Stop. We talk a lot about her latest book Dopamine Nation.

Our new single "Daniel, I'm Not Gonna Make It. Go Ahead Without Me" is coming out now! https://emery.ffm.to/daniel

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We’re going on tour and the VIP upgrade is on sale now at LabeledUniverse.com

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#632 Big Show Jun 09, 2022

Life is hard but The Big Show is here to help give you a million laughs. On this episode we discuss the God Tom Cruise. The Damn News takes some damn turns and we continue to make fun of Lundsford.

Our new single "Daniel, I'm Not Gonna Make It. Go Ahead Without Me" is coming out THIS FRIDAY June 10th! You can pre-save it now!

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Pre-save our new album Rub Some Dirt On It now! Start streaming it June 24! https://emery.ffm.to/rsdoi

We’re going on tour and the VIP upgrade is on sale now at LabeledUniverse.com

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#631 Success. Happiness. Deep Purpose. Jun 02, 2022

Harvard Professor Arthur Brooks walked away from his extremely successful career at think tank in Washington DC because he realized he would be stuck. Stuck, unhappy, and unfulfilled. We can think that we must stay with the things that are working, but often times we are blind to the truth. There’s so much more out there if we’re willing to take a risk and live.

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#630 The Big Show Lundsford vs Logan May 27, 2022

Our old friend Logan joins the show to talk about why he hates Lundsford. Will they fight each other or will they love like our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. We also talk about how rich we never got with Emery and some old tour times.

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#629 Politics and Faith with Brian Kaylor May 19, 2022

The intersection of faith and politics has never been more divisive and decisive as it is now. Author Brian Kaylor and the guys talk about Donald Trump winning the election, what will happen if he runs and wins again and how evangelicals can swing the elections. Do Jesus and our votes actually align?

Follow Brian’s work at Wordandway.org

Listen to Brian’s podcast Dangerous Dogma Podcast

Checkout Wild Earth’s new album “Weary Hymns Along The Way” and follow them on Spotify )and on IG @wildearthmusic

Grab your tickets for Kings Kaleidoscope’s Nation Wide Tour which kicks off TOMORROW! Tickets available at kingskaleidoscope.com

Follow Kings Kaleidoscope on Spotify. They’ve already dropped some new singles and they’ll be releasing a new album later this year.

Stream our new single I Don’t Know You At All NOW!

Pre-save our new album Rub Some Dirt On It! Start streaming it June 24!

We’re going on tour and the VIP upgrade is on sale now at LabeledUniverse.com

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#628 Big Show The Lundsford Chronicles May 12, 2022

People hate Lundsford. Like our friends, hate Lundsford. But listen in while we deep dive into Lundsford’s Annulment and all that hate will be turned into just dislike. The Damn News has some pull-at-you-heartstrings zingers and new clubbers have us read their favorite Bible verses

Our new single I Don’t Know You At All is OUT NOW!: https://emery.ffm.to/idontknow

Pre-save our new album Rub Some Dirt On It now! Start streaming it June 24! https://emery.ffm.to/rsdoi

We’re going on tour and the VIP upgrade is on sale now at LabeledUniverse.com

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#627 Sex, pleasure, and stigmas with sex Coach Stormy Hill May 05, 2022

Stormy Hill of Love Deep Lab stops by the show to talk about her journey from a sexless marriage to becoming a sex coach for countless couples. We discuss how pleasure has been stigmatized and how we as sexual beings can regain what the world, church, and even our partners have tried to remove from us.

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#626 The BigShow Never Sleeps Apr 28, 2022

On this episode Toby shares thoughts and ideas from his notes. The Damn News returns as a musical and the boys discuss Elon Buying Twitter and what Johnny Depp Heard?

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#625 Bonus Pod: Sleep is Real Life Apr 26, 2022

This was a bonus pod we did for the BC Clubbers but we wanted to put it in the main feed because we have an update about What Would Jesus Sell and we had a fun conversation.

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#626 The Phenomenological Approach Apr 21, 2022

Dr. Douglas Giles is a professor and philosopher who believes deeply that we must always put our preconceptions aside and be open minded to the world or we will miss out on living a deeper human life. We discuss The Self and the boundaries of a person and how philosophy shapes the world.

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#625 Nasty Tik Tok Songs Apr 14, 2022

Data shows that people love dancing to nasty lyrics on TikTok, so Toby wrote some new music to see if the algorithm will work in his favor. We have a new segment called DadTalk about a day in the life of being a dad and the next KnuckleBreaker Challenge Announcement.

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#624 The Boy Crisis Apr 06, 2022

Dr. Warren Farrell joins the show to discuss his book The Boy Crisis. Masculinity is often considered toxic and dangerous but why? How have so many men fallen through the cracks and are now lonely, depressed, sent to prison, or even worse. Dr. Farrell provides a plethora of data and information on how we can win back masculinity and help men live more fulfilled lives.

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#623 The Big Show - Divorce Sucks But It Can Be Fun Mar 31, 2022

(We had some technical difficulties on the previous uploads of this episode. If you previously listened, please re-listen for an extended ending where Aaron and Daniel talk about their F you moments with their ex's)

This week our good friend and host of ESPNs Fantasy Show Daniel Dopp stops by to talk about divorce and if something he did was petty or cool. We also talk about Will Smith, living room shows, and even more! Hit play.

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#622 Music Critic Joel Hartse Mar 23, 2022

Joel Hartse is currently the music critic at Christianity Today but has worked for many different publications and has a new book out called Dancing About Architecture Is A Reasonable Thing To Do. We have been harsh on critics of our music for as long as we have been a band so we a great conversation about how to give and receive criticism, what qualifies a critic, and music criticism as an art like the music itself.

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Make love not War! Unless you’re a Christian. Mar 16, 2022

Micah from Oh Sleeper tells us one of the funniest stories we’ve ever heard involving a band dude looking for romance on a plane! Then private intelligence agent Kervin Aucoin joins us to talk about Russia. He participated in an OVERT anti Russian aggression campaign in Poland in 2018 and has extensive military experience and we ask him a billion questions. This episode is so good.

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#620 Carl Thomas from XXX Church Mar 10, 2022

Our old friend Carl Thomas from XXX Church stops by the show to talk about His new book When Shame Gets Real. Shame is a tool that is used abundantly these days and it’s hard to avoid the issues that stem from it. Carl says his book isn’t the only answer or way to handle shame but it’s a way to look at shame and healing

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#619 The Big Show Goes Newkular Mar 03, 2022

Matt is happy that the pandemic is winding down and nothing else bad is happening! Oh wait. We discuss the proper way to say Nuclear, what type of person would want to be the president, Toby tries to tell the guys about Amazing Jonathan and we talk about drugs and the way they make you think.

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#618 Pastors Ask Us About Church! Feb 23, 2022

The Henson’s both pastor two churches in North Carolina. They wrote to us about wanting to listen to our thoughts about church, church culture, community, and what the future holds. We thought it’d be better to have them on the show! We don’t have all the answers but this conversation is the type that’s needed more today.

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#617 Big Show: John Cooper Deconstruction Fiasco That made Jesus mad Feb 18, 2022

John Cooper from Skillet said something like “Christians who deconstruct are buttholes.” We disagree. Also, VR is dominating, Devin butchers BC Clubbers nicknames, and we have to bleep Lundsford twice

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#616 Minivan Mamas! Feb 09, 2022

The ladies from The Minivan Mama’s Podcast stop by and we have a blast. We talk about Mormonism, parenthood, being vulnerable in a public platform, and a ton more. Also, they record from their minivan so they are more DIY than us! These ladies are hilarious and you don’t want to miss this conversation.

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#615 The Big Show! Feb 03, 2022

This episode of The BigShow we talk about the Emo’s Not Dead Cruise that Emery is playing and how us being the biggest and most important band on the cruise probably helped sell it out. Also we discuss Neil Young and Spotify, Lundsford get’s edited for saying something horrific, and we play guess the top 10 most shared pieces of misinformation about the covid vaccine.

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#614 Bonus: Underoath Deep Dive EP 0: What If We Are All Wrong Jan 29, 2022

This is just a bonus drop of a new project I’ve been working on that lives in the Labeled Universe that has a pretty good crossover with BC given that Underoath is the subject. This is the setup for a 10 episode series covering their newest record.

Coming off of “Erase Me”, the band was filled with conflict over sonic direction and personal issues. Underoath found themselves at a crossroads and were forced to dig deep and reflect on their history within the DIY punk & hardcore scene and the passion they felt at the inception of the band. With that focus, the band made the bold decision to not have any outside input from producers and set off on their own creative silo.

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#613 Hanging out with Michael Gungor Jan 26, 2022

Mike stops by and man do we have fun. This is three friends who don’t know much but have a good time talking about all we don’t know! We talk about are transitions in and through Christianity, how our podcasts have taken us places we never thought or didn’t want to go and we laugh a lot. You’ll love this episode so come hangout with us.

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#612 Matt and Toby Raw Jan 22, 2022

In case you ever wondered how bozos like us put food on the table, the answer is that we have a membership model for both the band and podcast that is combined. Inside that membership there is what we call premium exclusive content. Right now Emery’s new album Rub Some Dirt On It has final pro mixed audio versions yet to be publicly released and lots of other stuff, and we make TWO additional podcast episodes weekly for members only that are more raw and real than even the main episodes are. There is a private member community as well, so please cancel your Paramount + membership and join the the new underground.

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#611 Dr. Jacqui Lewis Jan 19, 2022

Dr. Lewis is the first female and first Black Senior Minister in her church’s history. Located in the East Village, Middle Collegiate Church is a multiracial, welcoming, and inclusive congregation. Dr. Lewis has a new book called Fierce Love that tells deeply personal stories of abuse, love, overcoming prejudice and how Dr. Lewis wants to see religion as a healing force as opposed to a divisive tool.

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#610 The First BigShow Of 2022 Jan 12, 2022

On this episode we talk about death! Can you name all the famous people who died in 2021? We also talk about how this is the best time in history to bet on yourself! What do you have to lose? Lastly, talk about how we put thousands of dollars in Crypto and DAOs and Matt Macdonald from Classic Crime and a crypto genius helps explain some things that Toby definitely still doesn’t understand.

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#609 It’s The BigShow! Dec 16, 2021

Devin and Toby are back from the casino and boy does Devin have a gambling story. Also, Toby tells the story about the second time he saw Matt cry. Lundsford remembers that he sucks and the guys talk about how they used to be poor and could only buy one loaf of bread and share it for a week.

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#608 Well Managed Dysfunction Dec 09, 2021

Rock bands are groups that live somewhere between families, companies, and cults. Talking about the relational dynamics in the new Beatles new docuseries series spawned further conversation about bands balance their egos

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#607 What It’s Like To Move On with George Mekhail Dec 01, 2021

George Mekhail lost a church when he led them to be inclusive to the LGBTQ community. He started Church Clarity but then eventually knew it was time to leave. He allows his curiosity and search for truth lead him towards what’s next. This episode is great for people who have or are deconstructing their faith and purpose and are asking the question “What happens when I move on?”

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#606 Can Christians Talk about Anxiety and OCD with other Christians? Nov 25, 2021

Jon Seidl has worked with a ton of Christian leaders and influencers like Kirk Cameron and Glen Beck, but it wasn’t until he had a heartbreaking conversation with his wife that he realized he had to get some answers. Jon’s book, Finding Rest, is about how he was able to finally name his Anxiety Disorder and OCD to save his life.

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#605 Hell Yeah! God Showed Up at Toby’s House. Nov 17, 2021

This episode was supposed to be a bonus episode for the club, but it got way deeper than we planned and after recording and wanted to share it to share some personal things and what’s happening to BC. Toby had a spiritual moment this weekend which caused him to have some deep and painful self analysis and helped him realize some things must change. Matt also feels much the same way. Though this discussion is off the cuff and totally raw, we hope it resonates with you and that you too can relate to how times in our life things must change.

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#604 Scott from Zao stops by The BigShow Nov 11, 2021

Zao is one of the biggest influences on Matt & Toby. They made an amazing special and the guys talk about how different and yet nerve wracking and amazing it is to play without a crowd. The guys also talk about bad band dude personalities from tours and where the music industry is headed

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#603 The Myth of Virginity with Mary Beth and Nicolle Hodges Nov 03, 2021

Journalist, author, and sexual freedom philosopher Nicolle Hodges set out on a mission to redefine the concept of virginity as we know it - or at least what we think we know - and has paved a path of healing for herself and others in the process. In this episode, Mary Beth and Nicolle break down exactly what virginity means in our society, how it robs us all of the freedom to explore ourselves and our desires, and how we can take our power back.

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#602 Micah Kinard of Oh, Sleeper on Group Effort and Motivation Oct 28, 2021

Micah from Oh, Sleeper is a big believer in collaborative group effort. His band Oh, Sleeper is an example of a very high functioning group. The members are all hyper specialized both in the creation of the music, recording and production, business, customized light show and live production and much more, but Micah's main passion is the creation process, building abstract worlds and writing. This fuels Oh, Sleeper’s album concepts, but Micah's dreams are well beyond that and he now is looking to spread his wings beyond the band and explore the world of creative writing with the same enthusiasm that gets a rock group started. This enthusiasm for groups and the encouragement/accountability that they generate is central to Emery, BC, the whole Knuckle Breaker Universe, and particularly the Knuckle Breaker Challenge which begins this Monday.

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#601 Flowers In The Sidewalk With Ethan Thomas Oct 21, 2021

The culture he grew up in tried to crush Ethan Thomas. Being gay and growing up in a conservative family and church in the 90s made Ethan become hidden and even resentful of himself. Why couldn’t he just pray the gay away? But somehow Ethan wasn’t crushed, he found a way to make it through and now can begin to finally live as the real Ethan.

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#600 Matt & Toby Big Show with Beloved Oct 13, 2021

On this episode Dusty and Joe from Beloved stop by to talk about reuniting for Furnace Fest, not playing shows together in over 6000 days, and spooky stories that we’ve all experienced

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#599 Sexologist Dr. Emily Jamea Oct 06, 2021

On today’s episode Toby talks with Dr Emily about why our sexual relationships can get so f@#ked up when all we want to do is have a good time f@#king. Toby gets pretty vulnerable and personal and talks about penis size…or maybe not you’ll just have to listen.

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#598 Furnace Feet Sep 30, 2021

Furnace Fest: This festival was unreal but also wore us out! We talk about the good the bad and the ugly moments from this weekend and how Devin had to soak his feet when he got home.

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#597 I Quit Church: Toby's Story Sep 23, 2021

Matt interviews Toby about the path that led him to become a worship leader and heavily invested at Mars Hill Church, what he experienced and the path that led him out of it.

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#596 Walmart parking lots and Emery's new album Sep 14, 2021

We're talking about our old tour stories, playing sports with Hawthorne Heights, bad injuries, the greatest inventions ever, and Emery's new Album Rub Some Dirt On It. You can watch the visual album this Thursday!

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#595 Bonus: Emery’s Origin Story and more Sep 11, 2021

This is an interview Matt did on the Two Week Notice Podcast. In this episode, he tells the story of how the band collectively made the decision to move to Seattle to pursue their career as musicians, and lived out of Matt's dad's business partner’s race car trailer. We also talk about Furnace Fest, the legend of Weezer & Ozma, traveling abroad, and more.

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#594 Cool Runnings, Little Giants, and heroin with Tommy Swerdlow Sep 08, 2021

Tommy Swerdlow has lived through the highest highs and lowest lows. After finding success as an actor and screenwriter for many of your favorite movies, Tommy tells us how his heroin addiction finally caught up to him. Swerdlow drew inspiration for his new book, Straight Dope, from his own personal life when he was strung out on drugs while simultaneously working on films such as Cool Runnings, Little Giants and more.

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#593 Science Denial Sep 02, 2021

On this weeks episode we talk with Dr. Gale M. Sinatra and Dr. Barbara K. Hofer why people often deny science and rely on their biases. How do you change your mind or stay in the middle and avoid choosing hard sides? We also talk about our own experiences with family and our church upbringing and why often it’s hard to go against your tribe. If you haven’t gotten tickets yet for our new visual album then get those at Momenthouse. http://Momenthouse.com/emery

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#592 The Deconstruction Journey of Craig Gross Aug 25, 2021

Craig Gross was the founder of fireproof ministries and XXX Church. He ministered to people in the porn industry and did years of speaking gigs with Ron Jeremy who he became close friends with. XXX Church made porn blocking software and was the first sponsor of the BadChristian Podcast.
Since we have last heard from Craig, he and his wife Jennette have experienced a tremendous amount of personal and spiritual change. They have ventured in cannabis and then psychedelics which prompted them to begin to deal with trauma they had both been suppressing.
This conversation is them verbally processing and catching us up on their journey so far while still clearly being in the middle of it. They speak freely and unfiltered. The content of the episode may be triggering to some and includes trauma, abuse, and conspiracy theory type content, most of which goes unchallenged.
We made the decision to leave the full episode uncut and unedited and will leave it to you to decide what to take in and how to process it.

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#591 I Kissed Josh Harris Goodbye Aug 19, 2021

Did Josh Harris basically just write I Kissed Church Goodbye and try to sell it for $275? Will Delta be dealt with in schools? Is the best bathroom in America in Greenville SC? Find out that and more on this weeks Bro-Fest episode

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#590 China Dossiers and The Damn News returns. Aug 11, 2021

On this episode the guys talk about how the new MarriageSupply website is filthy but in a Christian way. The Damn News returns only to prove that China has all your records and that sign language can be very sexual. Then Toby proves that Lundsford is a creation of the Matrix.

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#589 Dave Tomlinson the original BadChristian Aug 04, 2021

About a year before we started the BC Podcast Dave Tomlinson wrote a book called How to be a Bad Christian. We finally get the opportunity sit down with him and talk about how a Vicar in England could change the way church is done and how we can save Christianity

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#588 Stoicism, Ecstatic Experiences, and Drugs with Jules Evans Jul 28, 2021

Jules Evans is an author and researcher who found Stoicism during some of the darkest times of his life. After teenage years filled with drug experimentation Jules found himself lost and filled with anxieties, depression and other mental issues. His book Philosophy For Life tells of how ancient philosophies helped save his life and helped him regain and find who he was supposed to be now. In this episode we talk about Spiritual Bypassing, LSD and Ayahuasca, our personal Ecstatic Spiritual Experiences and much more. This episode is so dope.

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#587 The Question Digital Event August 12nd Jul 21, 2021

The Question is arguably Emery’s biggest record and one of the most successful sophomore albums for a band on Tooth & Nail. The guys sit down with Zac and Lief, the director and Art director of this special, to talk about the making of The Question Digital Event, how the music of our youth influenced us all, and why small cities often don’t understand the artists who live there. We go deep on some old Christian music and bands and also talk about how film and cameras have become more accessible to the masses. What used to cost millions can no be done for thousands.

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#586 Publicist And Author Jameson Ketchum Jul 14, 2021

Cutting his teeth in the Christian music industry, Ketchum is an entertainment journalist who has helmed startup media outlets and national publications

He has done profile pieces with A-list entertainers such as Kevin Bacon, Adam Devine, Saturday Night Live cast members, best-selling authors such as Rob Bell, Matthew Quick, and Jonathan Merritt.

His new book details Ketchum’s time touring with Christian heavy metal bands and trendy non-profits. Namedropping: Seeking Creative Truth Through Trendy Altruism and Punk Rock is a fly on the wall perspective of trends in “hip” Christian culture told through the eyes of a self-doubting rock journalist begging to belong. Witnessing healings, demonic possession, and the ever-present rock star ego, Ketchum’s stories are hilarious and heartfelt.

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#585 Party hangout episode! Jul 07, 2021

The guys talk about how marijuana affects everyone differently especially on a plane at 30k feet in the air. Also, Matt talks about how using his new Oculus goggles one and a half times has changed his life forever. Lastly, Lundsford claims that everyone on earth actually enjoys littering but thanks to the Libterds we can’t have anything!

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#584 Author and Former Pastor Tiffany Bluhm Jun 30, 2021

Tiffany Bluhm is an author and former pastor. Her new book Prey Tell: Why We Silence Women Who Tell the Truth. In this book Bluhm explores the more complex dynamics of power and abuse in systems we all find ourselves in while telling stories of how women have overcome silence to expose the truth.

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#583 Podcaster, Pastor, and Author Mike Cosper Jun 24, 2021

Mike Cosper is a writer and podcaster. He’s the Director of Podcasting for Christianity Today and the host of Cultivated: A Podcast about Faith and Work as well as The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill. He's also the author of several books, including Recapturing the Wonder: Transcendent Faith in a Disenchanted World (Intervarsity Press). His other books include Faith Among The Faithless (Thomas Nelson), Rhythms of Grace and The Stories We Tell (both published by Crossway Books).
Mike also served as one of the founding pastors at Sojourn Church in Louisville, Kentucky, from which he launched Sojourn Music – a collective of musicians writing songs for the church.

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#582 Happiness & Productivity w/ Author Oliver Burkeman Jun 17, 2021

Oliver is the author of several books on happiness and productivity, including his new book, “Four Thousand Weeks”. He’s a journalist and writer that is making the case for rediscovering unfashionable old school psychoanalysis, and also writes about the discomfort surrounding creative work and relationships among other things. His new book is available for pre order now at OliverBurkeman.com

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#581 Digital Sensorium w/ Peter Berkman Jun 09, 2021

Peter Berkman is a musician, songwriter, and writer. His band Anamanaguchi is a critically acclaimed indie group, but lately Peter has been diving more into thinking about how we experience art and how its relevant to our senses in the digital world. The guys discuss the ideas of Canadian philosopher and communication theorist Marshall McLuhan, and what the future holds for artists and creators in the digital world.

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#580 Matt & Toby: Aaron Gillespie Jun 04, 2021

Singer, songwriter, drummer, and frontman Aaron Gillespie of Underoath, The Almost, and Paramore fame joins the show to talk about how nobody actually likes anything, wanting to fight other little league dads, and fending off online haters and trolls. The guys talk about the future of being in a band, going virtual, and if touring will even be fun anymore.

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#579 Pastor With All the Questions: Anthony Wirth, Toby, and MaryBeth May 26, 2021

This feels like a classic 2015 BC episode. Anthony Wirth recently quit pastoring his growing church, a part of the Acts29 Church Planting organization Mark Driscoll started. Everything was going great until Anthony did a little reading and started asking questions like, why can't women be in church leadership, does God actually send you to Hell forever to burn, and are we actually predestined for a certain afterlife? The answers to those questions are too scary for many churches to address.

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#578 Matt & Toby: Who Could Have Been a Millionaire! May 21, 2021

Aaron wants to send his daughter to space camp but his wife doesn't trust NASA to take care of her. Money is fake and Matt mansplains currency and finances to Toby and Aaron. Bill Gates might be super evil but is it a net positive? Matt slanders some of your favorite celebrities including Brad Pitt and the lovely Kate Winslet.

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#577 Astrophysicist Heino Falcke May 19, 2021

Heino Falcke is Professor of Astroparticle Physics and Radio Astronomy at the Institute for Mathematics, Astronomy, and Particle Physics (IMAPP) of the Faculty of Science at Radboud University in Nijmegen and is visiting scientist at the Max Planck Institute for Radio Astronomy in Bonn. He studies black holes and high-energy elementary particles, using the entire range of theoretical, computational, observational, and experimental astrophysics. As a speaker and author, he is engaged in communicating science to the public.

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#576 Matt & Toby: Nate Young from Anberlin May 14, 2021

Nate Young started touring full-time with Anberlin when he was just a teenager. We talk about how they could never keep a guitar player, how Chopper being in Emery made zero sense to him, and about how bad of an idea it is to hire your friends as crew members for your band.

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#575 Family and Marriage Therapist Meredith Munro May 13, 2021

In this episode, Mary Beth and the guys talk with therapist Meredith Munro about therapy during Covid, Dialectic Behavioral Therapy, and how AI might take all the counseling and therapy jobs.

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#574 Matt & Toby: Beware Joe Rogan & Elon Musk May 07, 2021

Matt loved Joe Rogan and Elon Musk and therefore is terrified by them. Toby wishes he bought more $WALLS. The guys ponder going to space and discuss the time that Aaron ran marketing and social media for 5 failing companies.

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#573 Anna Lyons & Louise Winter May 05, 2021

“We All Know How This Ends” by end-of-life doula Anna Lyons and funeral director Louise Winter opens up the conversation surrounding death and dying, something desperately needed for those of us who tread lightly around the subject, if at all. Through a collection of heartbreaking, surprising, and uplifting stories of the ordinary and extraordinary they encounter each day, Anna and Louise share the lessons they’ve learned about life, death, love and loss, and encourage us to embrace the end of our lives the same way we embrace the beginning. Uniquely compelling and thought-provoking, We all know how this ends offers real-world insight and advice and proves why is so desperately important for us to engage in open conversations about death.

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#572 Matt & Toby: Tour Partying, $WALLS, and How to Scam Your Fans Apr 30, 2021

Matt MacDonald from The Classic Crime joins the show to talk about band stuff and partying on tour and sex or lack thereof in our bands. Also, trying to introduce new things to fans is universally frustrating and usually devolves into being accused of “scamming your fans.” Aaron almost has a mental breakdown over the reaction to trying to sell his As Cities Burn book on their Facebook page.

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#571 Preacher N Sneakers Book! w/ “Tyler Jones” Apr 28, 2021

Ben Kirby became infamous for revealing how much pastors' shoes and clothing apparel actually cost. He’s now written a book about his experiences with going viral and how it’s affected his faith.

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#570 The 69x Challenge (Game Explanation and Walkthrough) Apr 22, 2021

The 69x Challenge is a discomfort management tool that we use to break out of our comfort zones and form the habits that we seek to gain and sustain. It can also be described as "a community based physical and mental challenge for misfits and fuckups"

If you are not interested in The 69X Challenge, please skip this episode. It is NOT a normal episode and you won't like it.

If you are already registered for the challenge, or are curios about it then play on!

This episode is a walk through of the rules of the game and how we will evaluate and score ourselves and a little how the teams will work. I thought the best way to do this would be to get with Devin and Caity, who often help push me through work and think through detailed things, and make sure that the rules makes sense. So this is just a conversation we were already gonna have about the rules and I thought it could be useful as many people might have the same questions and reactions as Devin and Caity.

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#569 Mary Beth & Kara Fernstrom Apr 21, 2021

MB and Kara join the podcast to talk about Kara’s Canadian origins and her experience living in an RV for a year as well as her past experience with drug addiction. Also discussed is the realization that no matter what, you end up being like your parents. Check out Kara’s podcast, The Conquest of Bliss - link below.

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#568 Matt & Toby: Cancelled Apr 16, 2021

The guys talk about how there is no better feeling in the world than a show getting cancelled. They discuss the power dynamics inside Emery, Aaron’s wife talking more than Matt, and whether or not Devin’s wife looks down upon all his friends with disgust.

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#567 God is Grey with Brenda Marie Davis Apr 14, 2021

Brenda Marie Davis was a good Christian girl. She had the purity ring, she was a faithful leader in school, and thought she was doing the Lord’s work. That was until she couldn’t hold the weight of Evangelism anymore. In this episode, we talk about the idolizing of sexual purity and how the church taught us sex equals sin.

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#566 Matt & Toby: Would You Give An Inch Of Your Dong? w/ Devin Shelton Apr 09, 2021

After discussing the size of Mega Pastor penises in the BC club episode this week, Matt poses a question to the group about donating an inch of your penis to your son. The guys talk more about the BCx69 and how this time the change is for real. Toby refuses to watch “Breaking Bad”.

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#565 Propaganda and The Demise of Higher Education w/ Professor Mark Crispin Miller Apr 07, 2021

Mark Crispin Miller, a professor of Media Studies at NYU, has taught courses on the use of propaganda in media throughout history. The guys discuss the state of higher education, whether or not Bill Gates is an evil genius and some Hitler stuff. They also dive into the controversy surrounding Mark’s potential firing from NYU.

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#564 Matt & Toby: I Just Want To Be Myself Apr 02, 2021

Devin Shelton of Emery joins the show and he is very, very confused about a man who is turning himself into a boar. The guys talk standup comedy and the future of comedians and actors in the digital age. Toby complains about all the big bouncing asses interrupting funny videos on tiktok and Matt’s wife is mad every time he makes extra money.

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#563 Grace Baldridge of Semler Apr 01, 2021

Grace Baldridge is the first openly gay artist to reach number one on the Christian Charts. She joins the show to talk about growing up as a pastor's kid, growing up mostly listening to Christian music, and the recording process for her album Preacher’s Kid.

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#562 Matt & Toby: Robert Ross of @TikStocks Mar 26, 2021

Robert Ross has a decade of “institutional” experience as a stock market analyst but this year he started using Tik Tok to teach people about stocks in a fun way. We talk about how to avoid blowing up your account, why he avoided the GameStop craze, and how he is still optimistic about the market long term. Matt and Aaron declare themselves official financial advisors.

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#561 God and Aliens with Robin Hanson Mar 24, 2021

Tenured professor and author of Elephant in the Brain and The Age of Em Robin Hanson joins the show to talk about playing the game of life, how culture and government might keep us from exploring the universe, and how aliens might not be as interesting as we think.

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#560 Matt & Toby: WTF is an NFT with Zach from Mintable.app Mar 19, 2021

Zach, the founder of Mintable.app, joins us to explain what in the world an NFT (Non-Fungible Token) is and why they matter. We talk about the recent NFT that sold for $69 million and also some of the practical applications NFT's can provide via certifying the authenticity of physical items. Aaron listed an NFT of a picture pasta that is now up for auction on mintable.app and Matt thinks his guitar pedals might be worth something.

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#559 Priest and Pastor with Father Martin Mar 17, 2021

In this episode, the guys talk about fetishes, fervent prayer, faith, finding God, and all the big F's. Also is prayer just a ritual or does it hold a more mystical application that connects us more deeply to God and each other?

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#558 Matt & Toby: The Story of Science with Will Lockett Mar 12, 2021

Will Lockett is a science explorer and a brilliant writer. He stops by the show to talk about all things in science from Elon Musk being King of Mars to deadly methane leaks in Antarctica.

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#557 Ryan Burge and The Nones Mar 10, 2021

Ryan Burge and Mary Beth join the show to talk about the data of religion, politics, and sexuality. Christianity is changing rapidly and the more real and raw information we can collect, the better we can help change it for the good.

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#556 Matt & Toby: NFT's, Bill Cosby as Satoshi Nakamoto, and The 1992 Atlanta Braves w/ Matt MacDonald Mar 05, 2021

Matt MacDonald of The Classic Crime comes on and the guys reminisce about the old tour bus. Aaron can't get his old job back, Mac teaches about NFT's, Crypto, and the coming financial apocalypse as Toby tries to figure out who the real creator of Bitcoin is. Bill Cosby and Barry Bonds are two of his strongest theories for the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto.

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#555 Finding Joy In the Midst of Despair Mar 04, 2021

Dr. Angela Gorrell joins the podcast to discuss her book "The Gravity of Joy". She talks about her experience in dealing with the despair of losing a family member, then a month later losing her father to a fatal opioid addiction, and then her twenty-two year old cousin to sudden cardiac arrest. Her mission is to communicate to the world that it is possible to find joy even through mourning the unbearable circumstances that life sometimes throws our way.

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#554 Matt & Toby: Pandemic Dating and Toby's Basketball Diaries Feb 26, 2021

Mary Beth McCauley, a long time BC Club member, joins the show to talk about internet dating during Covid-19, growing up and finding herself, and Only Fans. Toby recounts taking his daughter to her first basketball game with a team full of giants and he is very very angry at these 6th grade girls that can dribble between their legs. Be prepared for multiple references to the hit Sly Stallone film, Demolition Man.

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#553 Gun and a Hotel Bible Feb 24, 2021

Can movies with Christian themes actually be good? The creators and stars of the new movie Gun and a Hotel Bible join the show to talk about making a film on a DIY budget, how faith intersects with entertainment, and how movies will get made going forward.

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#552 Matt and Toby and Strange Negotiations Feb 19, 2021

We catch up with our good buddy and talented film maker Brandon Vedder. He directed the documentary about Dave Bazan called Strange Negotiations which you can watch on Amazon Prime now. . This episode is so fun. Brandon is on vacation after an exhausting year and Matt and Toby are partying as always. If you like music, movies, and hilarious conversation then this is the episode to put on repeat.

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#551 Ravi Zacharias was hidden in plain sight. Feb 17, 2021

Ravi Zacharias is a famed Christian apologist who used his power and influence to sexually harass, prey, and manipulate women who worked for him for years before his death. Journalist Daniel Silliman, of Christianity Today, joins the show to discuss the shocking and disgusting hidden life of a Christian leader who lived a life more like satan than Jesus.

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#550 Matt and Toby and Tour Managers Feb 12, 2021

Reva and Aaron know us better than most people because they have worked with us and seen us at our best and our worst. We talk about making music, getting sick on tour, and Reva’s brand new company Creative Media Support.

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#549 Bride of the Buddha Feb 10, 2021

How quickly will people give up their rights for safety? Would you let a chip be implanted in your body that stopped all theft and maybe crime in general?

Also, Barbara McHugh stops by to talk about her new book Bride of the Buddha. It's a fascinating story that is a mix of of fiction and non fiction that tells the story of Yasodhara who also sacrificed a lot to help the man who would become Buddha. In fact, she might have played a deeper role in women's rights and acceptance within Buddhism than we ever knew.

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#548 Dan Koch has a survey! Feb 05, 2021

On this episode Dan Koch tells us about a survey he has created to shed some light on a topic in Christianity that hasn't had much data collected or studied. Matt MacDonald from the Classic Crime also joins us and helps bring clarity to the ever changing cultural attitudes towards institutions.

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#546 Stocks and Francis Sopper Jan 27, 2021

On this episode we talk with Francis Sopper the creator of an awesome new mental makeup survey called Kairos Cognition. This survey helps you recognize that your greatest ability is to transfer and manage information. It’s the foundation for everything you do. In order to make this happen, time, attention, and energy come into alignment. We also discuss the crazy stock market. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/songs-and-stories/support

#545 MEMERY'S Jan 21, 2021

All of Emery plus Aaron Lunsford hangout and tell stories from the road and life. Some of these are embarrassing but it all has led us here to The Weak's End special which comes out next Wednesday Jan 27th.

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#546 So You're Deconstructing... w Sarey Martin and Dan Koch Jan 13, 2021

In this episode we talk with Dan Koch and Sarey Martin about their new website soyouredeconstructing.com. This site is intended to help folks who are moving away from traditional Christian fundamentalism and into more thoughtful ownership of their faith.

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#545 Lief Thomason Director of Underoath Observatory Jan 07, 2021

Leif Thomason is a film maker and director who oversaw and directed Underoath’s Observatory live specials and also directed Emery’s two new specials which air Jan 9 and Jan 27th. The UO Observatory shows were a massive success. We talk with Lief about the pressure of making these new online venues quickly for live music and pulling off audio and visuals in ways that haven't been done before.

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#544 A Conversation with Chad Johnson and the Provoke and Inspire Podcast Dec 31, 2020

We don't talk about Christianity or our specific faith as much as we used to on this podcast. Mostly this podcast has been the journey of learning to let go of things that seem very important and unlearning the behaviors and patterns that we had been programmed with by our families cultures and choices.

This episode is one in which we have a conversation with the Provoke and Inspire Podcast as they question Toby and I though the changes we have made in our life and faith publicly and over time. The end of the year seemed the perfect time to air it as we look forward to a 2021 that we hope to make pretty fuckin' crazy. See you on the other side.

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#543 Hardwired Dec 23, 2020

Dr. Robert Barrett and Dr. Louis Francescutti have written Hardwired which looks at how our deteriorating wellness is rapidly becoming a public health emergency. Our “caveman within” is evolved to hunt for any small morsels or measures of reward like sugar, fat, salt, sex, or social connection, our modern lives are overrun with daily stimuli that feed these senses to excess. https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/hardwired-robert-s-barrett/1137079845 Tooth And Nail: Hangnail Christmas EP --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/songs-and-stories/support

#542 Biblical Porn: Affect, Labor, and Pastor Mark Driscoll’s Evangelical Empire Dec 16, 2020

Dr. Jessica Johnson is a professor of religious studies at the College of William and Mary, and the author of Biblical Porn: Affect, Labor, and Pastor Mark Driscoll’s Evangelical Empire, where she chronicles the rise and fall of Mars Hill Church after spending years on the inside as a field journalist.

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#541 Why is Audio Storytelling So Compelling? With Jonathan Mitchell Dec 09, 2020

Jonathan Mitchell is the award-winning writer, director, and producer of the fiction story-based podcast The Truth. He has contributed to RadioLab, Studio 360, This American Life, All Things Considered, and many more. His unique abilities and interests provide ripe ground for creating sound experiences that augment narrative storytelling.

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#540 Walt Shelton: Is Having a Routine and Practice-Oriented Approach Essential for Meaningful Living? Dec 03, 2020

Walt Shelton and his new book, The Daily Practice of Life, really made an impression on us. Having a practice-oriented approach is essential for meaningful living, but is that realistic? Walt draws from Christianity and what Jesus's practice may have looked like, but also incorporates deep wisdom from other traditions that turn out to be quite compatible with Jesus's approach to life. This perspective is a very good fit for a deconstructed Christian looking forward.
In contrast to building walls with gates opening only to creeds matching one’s own, this book helps readers:
- create a personal routine integrating faith and practical realities - draw on past ups and downs to improve focus on now and offer hope for a brighter future
- turn life experiences into parables with wisdom for more informed choices
- open up and respectfully listen and learn within and outside our own tradition
- amplify commonalities that implement the heart of all authentic religions

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#539 Matt MacDonald in his Pre-Creativity Mode Nov 18, 2020

Matt MacDonald of The Classic Crime is closing out the Kickstarter campaign for their 7th full length album, and we spend an hour of procrastination talking about being older and what that means when you're an artist. The aging artist has lived their lyrics and still seems to be on a quest to find more.

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#536 Dead People in Corners Oct 28, 2020

BadChristian isn’t a debate podcast, but when Alex Tsakiris of the Skeptiko Podcast and author of Why Evil Matters stops by to talk about how our consciousness lives on, Matt and Alex have a great time going back and forth about studies and experiments that prove or disprove life after death and evils influence.

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#535 The Gay Pastor Oct 20, 2020

Michael Robison is a successful former pastor who tried to do everything he could to not be gay. But it didn't work! In this episode, we discuss the traditional roles of pastors and husbands and how the church can often try to suppress and hide the truth. How do you tell your wife, family, and congregation you have a secret?

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#534 Republican Jesus Oct 14, 2020

Republican Jesus is the new book by author Tony Keddie. Tony talks to the guys today about how American Christianity is a pawn in American politics and why Christians have adopted dangerous political leanings that look nothing like the teachings of Jesus.

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#533 Maintain Your Own Reality Oct 07, 2020

Toby hijacks the episode right away and becomes introspective about how his self narratives are also his own limits, but if thats true, then who is doing the limiting?

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#532 Meat and Climate Sep 30, 2020

Jim Giles is a journalist who investigates food consumption issues, food waste that is filling up landfills, and how the mass production of animal products is affecting the Earth's climate.

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#531 Justin Dean, Mars Hill PR Director Sep 23, 2020

Justin Dean was the Head of Public Relations for mega-church pastor, Mark Driscoll, from Mars Hill Church. In this episode, we talk about Justin's relationship with Driscoll, some of the issues that caused Mars Hill to implode, and the parallels between Mars Hill and our current mainstream narrative wars.

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#530 Tim McTague of Underoath Sep 16, 2020

We catch up with friend of the show, Tim McTague, on how he's been weathering the Covid storm, both as a small business owner in Florida, and as an innovative member of Underoath.

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#529 Bad Cult Members Sep 09, 2020

Dan Koch joins the show to talk about the transformation that fatherhood has caused in him. We then speculate about the role of church in our and our children's futures with how the decline of the church as a social cohesion force may be replaced or challenged with numerous organizations, religions, and cults. This thought-line prompts the "bad cult member thought experiment" in which one seeks to analyze or overcome group-think associated with the social groups they participate in.

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#528 Do What You Do For Future You Sep 04, 2020

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#527 Blurry Creatures and Blurry Tour Stories Sep 03, 2020

Is Bigfoot a physical creature that disproves science, or a mystical spirit realm being? Nate Henry and Luke Rogers started their new podcast Blurry Creatures to explore these ideas and more. But first, we catch up with our old friends and share some hazy tour stories.

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#526 LA Paul and Transformative Experiences Aug 26, 2020

As a professor of philosophy and cognitive science at Yale University, Laurie Paul's book "Transformative Experience," is an interesting bridge between religious and spiritual experiences that change the essence of who you are in a real way.

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#525 Cold's Bassist Lindsay Manfredi Aug 19, 2020

Lindsay Manfredi is living her dream of playing with her favorite band, Cold, and has recently put out a book called "Unfuckwithable: A Guide to Inspired Badassery."

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#524 The Masters of Rock Aug 13, 2020

Douglas Jerolmack is a Philadelphia professor interested in experimental geophysics. Toby was intrigued after reading a paper he did on mathematically demonstrating Plato's cube theory, and wanted to have him on to talk about his genuine interest in rock science.

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#523 The Aaron Sprinkle Music Machine Aug 08, 2020

What has Tooth & Nail legend Aaron Sprinkle been up to for the last few years? We catch up on his life over the last few years, and examine the future of music given a recent debate over a statement from Spotify's CEO Daniel Ek.

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#522 A Christian Reads the Tao te Ching Aug 06, 2020

Host of the podcast, "A Christian Reads the Tao te Ching," Corey Farr thoughtfully considers concept written in the Tao te Ching and how they integrate with his Christian faith. He also works with Syrian orphans in Lebanon, not far from a massive explosion seen on international news this week.

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#521 Covid's Affect on the American Church Jul 30, 2020

Data nerd and pastor, Ryan Burge, joins the show again to fill us in on some trends he's been seeing in how the pandemic has affected churches financially, attendance, and their relationship with government.

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#520 Four Things On My Mind Jul 23, 2020

Matt's has some things he needs to discuss: Kim Kardashian's mental health tweet, economy predictions, education crisis, and the arrival of unparalleled AI.

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#519 Revisiting Emery's Biggest Mistake with Devin Shelton Jul 15, 2020

You all know our good friend Devin Shelton, member of Emery and shipper of all BC merch. We discuss the album that changed our perspective on music creation, and why we want to update it now, 13 years later, and release it on vinyl.

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#518 Get Rich Or Die Trying Jul 11, 2020

Friend of the show, Aaron Lunsford, shares his recent successes in playing the game of life.

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#517 Buddy Nielsen of Senses Fail Jul 08, 2020

Front-man of Senses Fail, Buddy Nielsen has gone through a lot of change over the last 15 years, from coming out as bisexual, to changes in his spiritual life. We are happy to have him on and get to know him better!

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#516 Stephanie Tait and the Emerging Menlo Church Scandal Jul 03, 2020

Stephanie Tait joins to fill us in on what's going on with a current scandal at Menlo Church that is seemingly being swept under the rug by the Christian media.

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#515 Hawk Nelson's Jon Steingard No Longer Believes in God Jul 01, 2020

Coming from the Christian rock world, Jon's announcement that he no longer believes in God made national headlines. Since leaving Christianity, he's actually been thinking about God more, and was surprised by the benefits of that come with doubt.

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#514 Differently Wired with Debbie Reber Jun 25, 2020

Author and fellow podcaster, Debbie Reber, joins to talk through some neuro-divergent parenting styles, how women are often overlooked in the discussion, and why America should start addressing PDA (pathological demand avoidance).

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#513 Jemar Tisby: The Color of Compromise Jun 16, 2020

Our friend Jemar Tisby returns to the podcast . His book "The Color of Compromise," came out last year, but has found new legs in the current anti-racism movement, along with a new companion documentary of the same name.

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#512 Anti-Racism Saves Jun 16, 2020

Dan Koch joins our verbal processing about the religious elements we are noticing in the conversation around racial injustice, which might actually be a good thing?

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#511 Activist's Awakening, Maryam Nayeb Yazdi Jun 11, 2020

Maryam Nayeb Yazdi found her passion for activism after spending years literally in the closet. She is the founder of Seed Operations, and Oslo's Women's Rights Initiative, which was founded on the idea that collaboration is key to supporting universal gender equality.

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#510 Real People Talk About Race Jun 03, 2020

Members of the BC Club decided to hold a zoom call on Sunday night to talk about the weekend's events and how the club has responded. We were pretty inspired by their open conversation about race, and decided it was well worth sharing (with their permission.)

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#509 "The Church Has Hurt Us" Andy Othling May 27, 2020

We've seen our good friend Andy Othling (Lowercase Noises) go through a lot of inner turmoil in the last few years struggling with mental health and faith issues, and he's ready to talk about it and share his "testimony" if you will, for the first time.

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#508 Variolation is Sounding Better and Better May 21, 2020

Our talk with economist Robin Hanson, not very long ago at all, shaped the way we thought about the coronavirus before it was even a pandemic. Now we have a lot of updating to do, so we invited Robin back on to help us sort out the state of how things have actually played out thus far, and what could come.

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#507 Communities in the New Digital World May 14, 2020

Dan Koch is in the middle of a PHD program, dedicating his life to studying and doing therapy in the Christian/post-Christian online space. The small, off-beat, corner of the internet, and a certain generation, is emerging to be a field of study with its own experts, and is a growing and perhaps pivotal group for the unfolding future. How all of this unfolds is very critical. As people leave the religion and church practices of the past, we see more and more that the religious tendencies built within us are not so easy to mute. Moving forward, we see new norms and tribes rapidly emerging with familiar human dynamics. It will be important to engage, participate, and even contend for this space to be healthy and balanced. But is that possible, or is it a losing battle?

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#506 Ed Latimore May 07, 2020

Heavyweight boxer Ed Latimore got a degree in physicals and mathematics while boxing professionally, and is now an author. This gives him quite an unusual combination of attributes that brings a unique perspective to the concept of discipline and learning.

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#505 ESPN's Tattooed Music Scene Guy Apr 30, 2020

Daniel Dopp is a crossover guy, not only with music and sports, but also an indie to mainstream crossover guy. Daniel has been involved in putting out vinyl for acts like Chris Staples (twothirtyeight), Emery, The Classic Crime and the rest of the BC music family. He’s hosted house shows and promoted bands and their music since for years. Daniel moved into sports when he got an internship at ESPN in 2013, and is now on-air TV talent whose image is the bearded, tattooed, music guy who wears band shirts on every show. This conversation, also featuring Devin Shelton of Emery, is a very calibrating one that connects the small world that we all know all the way up to what is going on in the mainstream media in the pandemic and political era.

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#504 The Hard Times with Founder Matt Saincome Apr 23, 2020

As DIY musicians, we've been fans of The Hard Times for awhile now, so it was a pleasure to have Matt Saincome on to talk about his use of comedy and their non-political way of testing what material gets used or not.

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#503 Leaders Might Use Covid to Steal Your Rights Apr 16, 2020

Gissou Nia is a human rights lawyer who helps us compare authoritarian states like China and Iran as an example of how leaders could use the vulnerability of a global pandemic to affect our rights.

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#502 What’s The Deal with Data? with Tom Seiple Apr 09, 2020

Data science and visualization is currently the most sought after and highest paying field there is. Our society is increasingly dependent on numbers and data, which has made two particular areas increasingly complex. There is the data that we all generate ourselves that now needs to be considered, its uses, value, and privacy, and secondly, in our information age, it is becoming ever more important to be data literate and know how to consume it and what to trust.

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#501 The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly of Tour Apr 02, 2020

We're giving you all a peak at what the BC Club gets every day! This is a fun conversation reminiscing on famous people we've run into at shows before, and tour culture.

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#500 Covidiots-500 Mar 26, 2020

We made it to 500 episodes! Today's a party; we have Dan Koch, Matt MacDonald, Aaron Lunsford and Devin Shelton here to celebrate!

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#499 Philosopher Agnes Callard Mar 19, 2020

Agnes Callard teaches Philosophy in Chicago, and is an author for Point Magazine. We discuss with her a couple articles from The Point in particular: Parenting and Panic, Thoughts and Prayers, and The End is Coming.

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#498 Buy All the Alcohol You Can with Matt MacDonald Mar 11, 2020

Our first guest ever, friend of the podcast and lead singer of The Classic Crime, Matt MacDonald, joins to talk about how things have changed over the last six years since we started, and how he'll have to keep changing with the economy and virus outbreak threatening the entertainment industry. Also, Toby has some questions on #toosoon?

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#497 The Coronavirus with Robin Hanson Mar 05, 2020

Author of "Elephant in the Brain" and "The Age of Em," Robin Hanson, is one of the best brains on the planet with the most freedom to explore the things that interest him the most. In this case, that thing is the coronavirus.

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#496 The Church is a Content Creator with Scott Galloway Feb 27, 2020

Business professor and author of "The Algebra of Happiness," Scott Galloway joins our conversation on the church being a professional content creator. We also get into his book on keys for happiness and how to best pick a life partner.

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#495 Free Burma Rangers Feb 20, 2020

Director Chris Sinclair joins to share his 8-year experience creating the documentary "Free Burma Rangers" which documents the life of Dave Eubanks and his family who started a movement of humanitarian aids in Burma and beyond.

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#494 The Sexuality of the Bible with Professor Jennifer Knust Feb 13, 2020

Toby found Professor of Religious Studies at Duke University, Jennifer Knust's, work one day when googling "premarital sex in the bible" and found her take refreshing and liberating when thinking about talking to his kids about sex.

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#493 Taboos and Transparency with Aella Feb 06, 2020

Matt found Aella through the rationalist twitter community and was intrigued by her statements on radical transparency and research polls targeting things traditionally thought of as taboo.

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#492 U-Shaped Sex Toys Jan 31, 2020

Get a hint of what the BC Club gets on the daily dose episodes with a recent spicy one where Toby got a new toy for Marriage Supply.

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#491 End Times Anxiety with Dan Koch Jan 29, 2020

Friend of the show, Dan Koch, joins to share some of his findings through a series he's been doing on his podcast, You Have Permission, about how growing up with "Left Behind" and an emphasis on end times theology have effected people into their adult lives.

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#490 Beating Guns with Rex Harsin Jan 23, 2020

Documentary filmmaker Rex Harsin shares his perspective on gun control and filmmaking from his process of recreating Shane Claiborne's book titled "Beating Guns" into a feature length documentary.

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#489 The Science of Rick and Morty with Matt Brady Jan 15, 2020

The show "Rick and Morty" managed to get Toby interested in science and multiple realities to the point where he researched some of the science found in episodes and found a book Matt Brady wrote "The Science of Rick and Morty" which goes to show how pop culture can be used as a trojan horse to science.

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#488 Gazelle Transmogrify Jan 09, 2020

The changing of the decade brings on a reflective sense of meaning and purpose that Matt explains using gazelles, pain, surviving, future you, and yes, transmogrify.

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#487 Race and Church with Dr Emerson Dec 25, 2019

Merry Christmas! We have sociologist Dr Michael Emerson on today to answer some questions about racism in the American Evangelical church and how it got that way.

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#486 Why Should We Trust Science? With Dan Koch Dec 18, 2019

Friend of the show, Dan Koch, uses his new psychology studies to help us understand why there's a perceived gap between the study of science, and religion.

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#485 The Rise of the Nones Dec 12, 2019

Dr Ryan Burge is a "quant" political scientist, and a pastor. Through one of his articles on biblical literalism, Toby found a whole rabbit hole of intriguing data he's published about religion in America.

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#484 Know Any Cool New Cults? Dec 05, 2019

With the death of religion as we knew it ten years ago, comes a new birth of substitute religions in politics, cults, conspiracies, and any number of things.

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#483 Derek Webb Has a New Wife and a New Album Nov 27, 2019

We catch up with our friend Derek Webb, who had recently gotten divorced last time we talked, and now is re-married, and has a new album coming out. He's been an innovator in the music industry that we've followed the example of, so it's good to catch up and see what he's been doing lately.

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#482 BCPOD Goes Nuclear Nov 21, 2019

Nuclear expert Sean Wagner helps us clear up some myths around nuclear energy, how it works, and what the risks and levels actually are.

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#481 China is Watching You Nov 13, 2019

Hong Kong and China have had an ongoing political problem for awhile that we have no real idea of, so we asked Asia studies expert Elizabeth Economy on to help us figure out what exactly is happening over there and what it has to do with us Americans. Turns out, quite a bit.

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#480 Strange Negotiations Nov 06, 2019

Brandon Vedder is the filmmaker of the full length documentary about Dave Bazan titled "Strange Negotiations." Dave Bazan and Pedro the Lion have always been the tip of the spear in vulnerability and being critical of ourselves and of our faith and its systems. Brandon spent years following and filming Dave and was able to capture some incredible insights during the process and conveyed in the film itself.

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#479 Dr Kristin Wallace, PhD, LMHC, NCC, MFT Oct 31, 2019

Kristin Wallace has more initials after her last name than Matt or Toby have in their first and last name combined. She reached out when we got the terrible news about Jarrid Wilson and wanted to give some insight into the suicide discussion.

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#478 TikTok Toby Oct 25, 2019

We're giving you all a taste of what the BC Clubbers get four times a week with a daily dose episode from Tuesday where Toby gets his first video banned from TikTok.

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#477 Beth Moore Go Home, Says John MacArthur Oct 23, 2019

We react to John MacArthur's comments to Beth Moore to "Go home" aka stop preaching, and break down the audio clip that went viral from the conference.

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#476 Creating Rambo, with Author David Morrell Oct 16, 2019

David Morrell is the author of the book "First Blood," which became one of our favorite movies ever, Rambo. He tells us in what ways they changed the dynamics the book brought out in generational relationships and the effects of war before PTSD was a talked-about phenomenon. He's been out there doing things his own way for so many more years than us, and encouraged us way more than just talking about some books he wrote.

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#475 Dustin Kensrue Traded Church for a Podcast Oct 09, 2019

Dustin is the only guy we have these three things in common with: hardcore legends (Thrice and Emery), leaders at Mars Hill, and now, podcast hosts. Hear what he's up to now and check out his new podcast, Carry the Fire.

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#474 The Relevant Magazine Controversy with Andre Henry Oct 03, 2019

We invited former Relevant Magazine's Managing Editor, Andre Henry, on to talk through the issues and nuances of his recent Medium article on the toxic culture in his old workplace, and the difference between intention and outcome when it comes to race.

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#473 Purity Culture Sep 26, 2019

Our good friend Dan Koch did a bunch of research for his podcast You Have Permission on the history and effects of purity culture, so we asked him to share it with us.

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#472 First Hand Account of the Opioid Epidemic Sep 19, 2019

Our guest this week is Jacob Evans, a man who struggled with an opiate addiction, and now works at a recover center called Tree House Recovery.

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#471 The Big Fat Surprise Sep 11, 2019

Author and investigative journalist, Nina Teicholz, has done the hard work of sorting out the truths and myths behind our nutritional guidelines and how a low-carb diet could change the state of America's health.

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#470 Jacob Marshall at the BadChristian Conference Sep 04, 2019

Founding member of the band Mae, and psychedelic neuroscientist, Jacob Marshall, had one of the most talked-about conversations of this year's conference. I'm sure you can imagine why!

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#469 Anger is a Gift Aug 29, 2019

Toby realizes that anger might actually be beneficial in that it frees up the barrier you usually have which allows you to freely express how you think or feel in a pointed way.

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#468 Is AI an Attempt to be God? Aug 22, 2019

We have AI Engineer, Tom Grek, on to explain to us how AI actually works, where it is, and where it's going.

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#467 I Can't Stop Getting Proof for How Shitty Evangelicalism Is Aug 17, 2019

Toby deleted Facebook, which is giving him a new excitement for Twitter. He just can't get away from seeing how terrible the evangelical church and pastors are, this time it's an article about the Evangelicals mobilizing to get more people to vote #trump2020.

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#466 "I'd Take on Five Lindsay Lohans to One Mega-Church Pastor" Aug 15, 2019

Crisis Management Public Relations Consultant, Hunter Frederick, helps manage the public's perception of both celebrities and mega-pastors alike. On the surface, it sounds like a job we're obviously opposed to, but by the end of the interview, you'll see who's asking who for a job opening.

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#465 Is it Possible to Find Truth in Journalism? with Lou Jacobson Aug 08, 2019

Louis Jacobson is one of PolitiFact's Sr Correspondents, working on sifting through the clickbait in the news to see what is true verses what is a lie in the media today.

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#464 Activist Jaclyn Friedman Says Voting Can Improve Sex Ed Aug 01, 2019

Last time we had our friend Jaclyn Friedman, author of "Yes Means Yes" and host of "Unscrewed," on the show, she helped us update our thinking on sex and purity culture. This time she gives Matt a run for his money on the topic of voting when we get into sex ed and concentration camp border patrols.

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#463 Brandan Robertson at the BadChristian Conference Jul 25, 2019

We've started the process of planning next year's conference now, so here's a taste of what this year's conference had to offer with our friend Brandan Robertson. Brandan is a pastor and LGBTQ activist bridging the gap between the evangelical world and freedom in sexuality.

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#462 Unintended Truth-Telling with Brian Zahnd Jul 18, 2019

Coming from the Jesus Movement, full-time pastor and occasional author Brian Zahnd joins to talk about the religion of Americanism and the unintended truth-telling of the American church.

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#461 Stick with Mapquest or Be a Hybrid Human Jul 13, 2019

Joey’s uncle wanted old-school directions to his house, even though he had an iPhone to easily type in the address like a normal human. According to him though, Joey was the dummy for relying on that dumb MAPS app. Matt gets excited about these implications. A simple choice the future generations will be faced with. Accept & cooperate with hybrid humans, reverse aging, and 300-year lifespans, or go build your villages to die early. 99.9% of us will chose the former.

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#460 Pick It Up! with Leanor Ortega Till and Jason Zeimet Jul 10, 2019

This week's guests are Pick It Up! Ska in the 90s film producers Leanor Ortega Till of Five Iron Frenzy, and Jason Zeimet of Unoriginal Vinyl. We dive into the history of ska music, the inspiration for the documentary, as well as some in-depth reflections on Five Iron Frenzy, and their involvement in the Ska scene over the last 25 years.

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#459 Michael Gungor Jul 04, 2019

Michael Gungor has had a rough past couple of years, which has come with a lot of change, including being given a new name as a spiritual practice of dissolving the ego and stories we have for who we are. He joins to explain some of this to us, which leads to his new book "This: Becoming Free."

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#458 Tom Farley Remembers His Brother Chris Jun 20, 2019

Chris Farley was one of the all-time great comedians and actors. We had the privilege of talking with his brother Tom about his life, career, the impact he had on the world, and implications of the dark side of being the funny guy.

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#457 Judge Not, Lest Ye Be Judged Jun 20, 2019

Matt, Toby, and Joey discuss how some of the moralism and purity problematic religious behaviors and image management, that we’ve seen for years in evangelicalism is now appearing in other subcultures and the mainstream.

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#456 Ted Bond of Craig's Brother Jun 15, 2019

Singer of one of Joey's favorite old school Tooth & Nail bands, Craig's Brother, gets vulnerable about some of the reality behind what was going on during some tumultuous times in their earlier years, and what they're up to now.

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#455 The Guy Behind Preachers N Sneakers Jun 05, 2019

A fan of the sneaker culture, founder of Preachers N Sneakers started noticing rare and expensive shoes on some of the celebrity pastors and worship pastors, made note of it on Instagram, just putting the info out there, and people from all different groups have resonated with it and made it mean whatever they want.

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#454 Failed Comedian Aaron Lunsford May 29, 2019

Aaron Lunsford, from the band As Cities Burn, hangs out at Toby's house, makes some jokes, and Joey asks awkward questions.

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#453 There's No Crying in Basketball May 24, 2019

Joey shows up in a big way on the basketball court where he hosts the neighbor kids. Unfortunately, it leads to some marital problems when he elbows a kid in the face.

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#452 JT of Hawthorne Heights May 22, 2019

Our good friend JT from the band Hawthorne Heights joins to reminisce on our first tour with them as we gear up for an Emery and Hawthorne Heights co-headline run this summer.

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#451 Sex Experiment Results May 17, 2019

A few weeks ago, Toby and Joey proposed a thought turned real-life experiment of whether it would be beneficial or not for married couples to have sex every day for a week. We actually got quite a few responses from people who tried it out, so invited a couple on to share what they learned!

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#450 Everything is F*cked, with Mark Manson May 15, 2019

New York Times best selling author of "The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck", Mark Manson, joins to talk about his new book about hope. Turns out he actually grew up Christian, like a lot of us, and we explore the ideas of faith of certainty, faith of doubt, and what you resist will persist.

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#449 Emeryland May 10, 2019

We reflect on the career and life of Rachel Held Evans, and update everyone on what we've been up to over in Emeryland.

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#448 Pete Holmes: Comedy Sex God May 08, 2019

In his new book, Comedy Sex God, Pete Holmes encourages people to unfold the way they're unfolding, and that changing your faith is the best thing you can do. Matt and Toby get the opportunity to confess some pretty hilarious things to him, and talk psychedelics.

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#447 Christian Cannabis May 02, 2019

During the hardest year of Craig Gross's life, he and his wife Jeanette found cannabis to not only help them cope, but to find a new way of life and a new way of thinking. Now they're out to break the taboo of cannabis use within the church to give other people the freedom to try something that might actually help them too.

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#446 Toby Fakes Easter and Still Finds God Apr 26, 2019

Here's a sneak peek at a daily dose episode! We get a bit more raw and personal on these episodes. This week, Toby faked Easter and came away feeling convicted of a few things and feeling closer to God, even though he didn't listen to a word the pastor said.

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#445 I'm a Fallen Mega-Pastor Apr 24, 2019

Ex-pastor of megachurch The Journey in St Louis, Missouri, Darrin Patrick, sits down with Joey at a pastor's conference to discuss his pastoral failures that resulted in his termination. Three years removed, Darrin tells the whole story, including where he's at now.

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#444 Chad of Kings Kaleidoscope Wants to Bring Zeal Back to Christianity Apr 16, 2019

Chad Gardner, front man of Kings Kaleidoscope, wanted to send a message with his new album "Zeal" to all the naysayers like us to stop being so negative and bring some joy and faith back to Christianity again.

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#443 Legendary Tooth & Nail Band's Struggle with Heroin Apr 11, 2019

Russell Holbrook of Joe Christmas, one of Joey's favorite Tooth & Nail bands of all time, shares his experience with heroin and other addictions. Escapism is so easy through drugs, alcohol, and even social media, that being present is the hardest thing to do. Check out Russell's new book "Heroin is the Answer: A Memoir of What I Can Remember."

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#442 How Nonprofits Work Apr 10, 2019

President of Renew the Arts, Justus Stout, sits down with us backstage at the BC Con to catch up on the documentary they're helping to fund us making called What Would Jesus Sell, and talk a bit about the world of nonprofits.

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#441 Richard Rohr Apr 02, 2019

There's only a few interviews we've done that leave us with a feel of awe and inspiration. This was definitely one of them! We had the privilege of talking to Richard Rohr about his upbringing, what Universalism is all about, and where Evangelicals are getting it wrong.

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#440 Pastors, Politicians, and Power Mar 26, 2019

Matt's back! We talk about his new baby until that gets out of hand, then move on to discussion of the different mechanisms by which politicians and pastors acquire power.

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#439 Can it Really be This Good? with Brian McLaren Mar 19, 2019

Brian McLaren, author of "The Great Spiritual Migration: How the World's Largest Religion is Seeking a Better Way to be Christian," has had a massive impact on Joey's belief updates, so he was very excited to talk to him today and even call him a mentor. Something about Universalism just seems a little too good to be true for Toby to jump on board, so at the end of the episode, he sets it straight again.

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#438 Bonnie Lewis at the BCxCon Mar 14, 2019

Author of the new Timshel Bible translation and pastor, Bonnie Lewis, was one of our favorite guests at this year's conference, so we wanted to share her interview with Dan Koch with you all. We also have a sex challenge for all you couples out there.

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#437 Confessions of a Funeral Director Mar 12, 2019

Funeral director and author, Caleb Wilde, gives his up close and personal account of living surrounded by death and how American's detachment from the reality of death isn't helping anyone.

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#436 JD Hall of Pulpit and Pen Discusses the Clayton Jennings Fiasco Mar 06, 2019

Prominent celebrity pastor Clayton Jennings had a meltdown on social media this weekend because of some accusations that have come out against him by JD Hall of Pulpit and Pen. Hall joins to explain where these accusations are coming from, and the history of his relationship with Jennings.

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#435 Tommy Green Ran Across Utah Feb 26, 2019

This episode's about second chances. Sleeping Giant's Tommy Green opens up about his affair as a young adult that left him with unreal guilt, but gives him a unique perspective on issues like Tim Lambesis. He's also passionate about helping women leaving the sex trade, and started a non-profit called Run Against Traffic, and even ran across the entire state of Utah for the cause.

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#434 System Update: Aaron Gillespie Feb 21, 2019

Aaron Gillespie of Underoath couldn't make the BC Conference, so Matt caught up with him to get a "System Update" on how his faith, mind, and outlook on life has changed and updated over time.

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#433 Goodbye to Free Sex Feb 12, 2019

Candice and Katie from the Free Sex Podcast join for one last hurrah to recap their experience doing the podcast, and what led them to ultimately move on.

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#432 Andy Mineo vs Christianity Status Quo Feb 06, 2019

Andy Mineo is not satisfied with the typical Christianity status quo. Luckily for hip-hop fans, he's pushing to break some barriers in that space, and shares the philosophy behind some clever lines on his new album.

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#431 Weekend Special Feb 03, 2019

We thought we'd hit you with an extra episode this week! Matt and Toby give you an update on a new business venture, we kick you a club-exclusive episode, and have a clubber on for another interview.

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#430 Three Ingredients for Mass Manipulation Jan 29, 2019

Matt likes everything Jordan Peterson says; which leads him to the conclusion he needs to stop listening to him. Joey brings a earth-shattering hypothesis that the band Mineral is on par with the restaurant Applebee's.

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#429 Ryan Rado, Tourette’s, Weed, and Authenticity Jan 22, 2019

Ryan Rado has been a big part of the Christian punk/hardcore scene for the last two decades through managing and getting several Tooth and Nail bands signed. He is also a visual and musical artist himself. Ryan also has Tourette's Syndrome and one of the most fun personalities out there. He came by Toby's house the other day with Aaron Lunsford, and we discussed all this, weed, his new album called "Make It Perfect" and possibly got drunk.

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#428 You Have Permission, But You Don't Need It Jan 15, 2019

Dan Koch joins to discuss the subtle difference between having permission, versus not needing permission, to change your mind, and where that permission comes from.

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#427 Joey Thinks Toby Saw a Ghost Jan 08, 2019

Over Christmas break, Toby saw something he can't explain. Joey's convinced it was a ghost, but Toby thinks there's a 100% chance it wasn't. We're also stoked to announce that Mae will be headlining this year's BC Con Show, supported by Emery, Aaron Gillespie of Underoath, and Matt MacDonald of The Classic Crime!

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#426 Joey says this Book has been More Important than the Bible Dec 18, 2018

"The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck" has been extremely beneficial to Joey's mental health. We're seeing the pressure to believe something even if you don't actually believe it move its way into mainstream culture's true seekers. Can't we all just stop giving a fuck, and be honest with others and ourselves about what we actually think about ourselves and the world? We're the ones who live in our reality anyway, so might as well enjoy what we've created for ourselves.

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#425 Christians Want to Put Lauren Daigle on That Weird Asteroid That Passed Earth Dec 12, 2018

Christians are having a fit after Lauren Daigle went on the Ellen Degeneres show. Matt brings a science segment about a weird asteroid that seems to be outterstellar, and who knows, maybe even a piece of an alien spaceship.

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#424 Kaleb Graves, Friend of Killed Missionary John Chau Dec 05, 2018

Kaleb reached out to us wanting to spread the word about what he believes to be a belief in bad theology that lead to his friend being killed while sneaking onto a protected tribal island to do mission work.

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#423 Matt's Not Taking His Kids to Church Anymore Nov 28, 2018

Back from the BC Roadshow, we do a quick tour recap, and Matt explains why he doesn't want his kids going to church anymore.

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#422 Politics and Giving with Dr Jenny Dyer Nov 20, 2018

How much does the American Christian give to other countries? Before we get to that, Matt explains his copy theory.

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#421 John Cooper of Skillet Nov 13, 2018

Skillet's John Cooper talks about switching from a "Jesus, Jesus" ministry to a broader style of evangelism, and starting his new band Fight the Fury. Joey found a kindred spirit in John and they broke out in song reminiscing some old school tunes.

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#420 The Church Has a Domestic Abuse Problem (with Autumn Miles) Nov 06, 2018

We've all heard churches say you can't get divorced no matter what. Well what about in the case of abuse? Autumn Miles shares her heartbreaking story of domestic abuse, and the church not helping her. Through that, she's made it her mission to help equip both churches and victims with the knowledge and resources needed to actually help.

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#419 Pete Enns at the 2018 BC Conference Nov 01, 2018

It's here! Early Bird tickets are now available for the 2019 BadChristian Conference in Dallas, TX. To celebrate, we're sharing a great talk by Pete Enns from our first conference addressing doubt, belief diversity, and reasons why people change what they believe.

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#418 Don't Vote Oct 30, 2018

After being proven wrong about the fate of lottery winners, Matt lays claim to why you shouldn't vote. During taping, Toby can't get over how much Joey's phone keeps going off, but turns out there was good reason for it!

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#417 The Modern Church May Be Fundamentally Corrupt Oct 23, 2018

Is it possible that we are interpreting the plot of our own movie wrong? We often see our modern institution as the underdog fighting against evil, but is it possible that we're really watching a tragedy unfold?

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#416 Kurt Andersen, Author of Fantasyland Oct 16, 2018

Matt and Joey recently talked about a book they read called Fantasyland, and we have the pleasure of having the author himself, Kurt Andersen, on to talk more in depth about the ideas in his book and particularly how they relate to the american evangelical church and conspiracy theories.

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#415 The Re-Awakening of Oh, Sleeper Oct 09, 2018

Micah Kinard expresses how hard Oh, Sleeper's ambiguous break up was for him, especially singing on stage again with bandmate Shane Blay's new band Wovenwar, which led to their reuniting. Shane and Micah hang on the bus with us to share the story from both of their perspectives for the first time publicly.

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#414 Nudity Can't Be Art, It Causes People to Lust You Pervert! Oct 02, 2018

With all the backlash for Emery's new album "Eve" having a naked woman on the cover, we're dedicating an episode to our thought process when we first saw the artwork. Matt gives a bit of history of how his thoughts about women have changed throughout his life.

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#413 When Emotions Become Too Much to Handle Sep 27, 2018

Emery's new song "Safe" is so emotional, Matt can't talk about it. Also get a taste of how the BC Club episodes roll with a taste of it here.

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#412 Emery Song Premiere Sep 25, 2018

The song "2007 Clarksville High Volleyball State Champs Gay is OK" was written about Toby's realization, after having a conversation with a man in a hospital, that what we believe from the things we've been told in church about homosexuality, might actually be stealing a person's one chance at true love from them.

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#411 Racial Divide in the American Church with Jemar Tisby Sep 18, 2018

Author of "The Color of Compromise," Jemar Tisby, sheds some light on the state of American church's cultural divide among races and how it got that way.

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#409 Bill Hybels is the Bill Clinton of Christianity Sep 03, 2018

We often equate pastors and politicians, but this one is hard to overlook. As scandals continue to come out into the open, Bill Hybels was one of the most upsetting to the Christian world. Also listen to the first half hour for an exciting BC announcement!

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#408 God Can't Heal Unilaterally, So Stop Wasting Your Time Praying, with Mark Karris Aug 28, 2018

Theologian, therapist, and ordained pastor, Mark Karris, explores intercessory prayer, and God’s uncontrolling nature, and other themes found in his new book Divine Echoes: Reconciling Prayer with the Uncontrolling Love of God.

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#407 America is a Fantasyland Aug 21, 2018

With a country built by dreamers, fantasy is deeply embedded in the DNA of America. This fantasy mindset has largely increased over time with the rise of individualism, as Kurt Anderson's book "Fantasyland" explains, which got Matt and Joey thinking about how it relates to religion.

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#406 Why Sacred Words Are Vanishing with Jonathan Merritt Aug 14, 2018

The vapid use of Christianese has turned people off from spiritual words. Jonathan Merritt explains this phenomenon and is working on reimagining sacred words as an active use of language.

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#405 Trayvon Martin Changed Christian Rap with Derek Minor Aug 07, 2018

Rapper and Producer Derek Minor breaks down why Trayvon Martin's death had a uniquely profound effect on the black Christian community.

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#404 Live from Joshua Fest Aug 02, 2018

Science Mike and Matt MacDonald are on the same side; except when they fight on twitter. MacDonald joins Matt and Toby at Joshua Fest and explains why the heck he tweeted what he did.

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#403 The Voice Revolution Jul 31, 2018

Audible communication is about to overtake text-based communication, but that pisses Toby's brother Mike off. On a good note, it could mean a rise in blue-collar intellectuals, and a close of the literacy knowledge gap.

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#402 Hot or Not Jul 24, 2018

Does who you're attracted to reveal hidden biases? We break down the nature of attraction and where we get our preferences. You don't know what you like until you give it a try.

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#401 Men are on the Sideline, with Kenny Luck Jul 19, 2018

Founder of Every Man Ministries, Kenny Luck had a big part in revolutionizing men's ministry against porn. In hindsight, some say that type of ministry has had a negative effect on women, and even contributed to toxic masculinity. Zao's Scott Mellinger gets grilled by Joey, and we answer some odd questions from the BC Club.

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#400 Episodes, Can You Believe It? Jul 17, 2018

We (and you) made it to episode #400! We talk about the system one and system two brain theory, and Matt and Joey have a failed conversation about teachers in the education system.

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#399 Sex Toys with Katy Zvolerin Jul 12, 2018

Bedroom activities are a traditionally taboo thing to talk about, especially in the southern Christian culture, which is why our guest today, sex expert Katy Zvolerin, is here to answer our uncomfortable and awkward questions about sex toys. But first, our college buddy White Carl joins to give us his review of the movie "God's Not Dead."

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#398 Do You Have a Soul? Jul 09, 2018

If so, what does it contain, how do we know, and where is it? We get deep about dualism in this episode, and discuss whether or not we're the author of our thoughts and desires.

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#397 Beer and Baptists with Tripp Fuller Jul 05, 2018

Tripp Fuller from the Homebrewed Christianity podcast talks about how his family were bad Southern Baptists, how he sees trends changing in the south, and his upcoming movie. Joey loves to teach about good old prayer, and Toby talks with Taylor and David about RYFO. What the heck is RYFO?

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#396 Matt Saves the Planet Jul 02, 2018

Matt gives a science segment that could save the planet. Climate change and global warming is just one of the human-guilt issues discussed in this episode, and BC Club Manager, Taylor Adkins, joins for an update.

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#395 Benny Hinn's Nephew Tells All Jun 29, 2018

What's the worst thing you've thought about Benny Hinn? Costi Hinn, Benny's nephew, spills all the uncomfortable details of his time in the ministry. Aaron Diello of Joshua Fest gets grilled by Joey, and of course, The Damn News brings more truth than ever.

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#394 Christian Swingers Jun 26, 2018

Jesus isn't the only dude in the middle of this couple. Guests Adam and Eve say that marital swinging doesn't break the rules or laws of the Bible. In fact, they say it's good for their marriage and more godly than you'd think. Joey decides to try and counsel Toby's brother Mike, who's a new Christian, and the Damn News is back!

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#393 Nerds Are Dangerous Jun 23, 2018

We heard the horrific news of the singer of a band we've shared a stage with being the leader of an alleged sex cult. This #metoo movement is definitely shining a light on the dark side of entertainment, but we still need to get more clarity with what consent actually is. Also Joey's leading a new segment this week called "Twisted Scripture."

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#392 Christian Movies Have a Long Way to Go (with Ben Davies) Jun 18, 2018

Matt says marriage expectations are a lie and no marriage has ever exceeded what you were told. Then, actor Ben Davies joins who has acted in many overtly Christian movies. He discusses his balance between the tension of art and moral boundaries within his acting career. We also discuss whether racial discrimination is an issue in Hollywood and why Christian movies don't deliver the same punch as mainstream film.

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#391 Rejecting Knowledge from Authority Jun 14, 2018

Matt brings a science segment with an explanation of what good reasoning is and why we should reject knowledge from authority. This relates to everything from Joey learning how to use new recording equipment to our understanding of God. Also Toby is annoyed with people thanking God for stopping worse things from happening after something terrible happened, and Joey apparently shat himself during the recording of this episode.

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#390 Vegan Bros Jun 11, 2018

Authors of "Vodka is Vegan," Phil and Matt Letten drop in to discuss their journey to becoming vegans, their unique approach to veganism, and answer pointed questions about Biblical references to eating meat.

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#389 The God of Technology Jun 08, 2018

Right wingers say God doesn't change. But we do. We have more information and ways to learn about God than we ever have. Maybe the Holy Spirit is moving through tech.

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#388 Propaganda (Jason Petty) Reacts to Recent Episodes Jun 05, 2018

Good friend Propaganda comes on to discuss some of his issues with the recent Owen Benjamin and Andrew Klavan episodes. We're fortunate he was able to come on to fill in the gaps of the black experience Jason found them to be completely unaware of.

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#387 Civilization is Two Steps from Pure Evil May 31, 2018

Toby found that there's no hope for humanity if anything happens as simple as the water supply going out. Everyone will resort to pure evil. He does bring back the damn news for this episode with a couple articles about Biblical laws, and smelly prison guards.

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#386 Brian McLaren Drops in to Drop Truth (or Heretical) Bombs May 28, 2018

Author, Speaker, Activist, and former Pastor, Brian McLaren talks about the changing theological culture of American Christianity. Religious leaders have less control now that their followers have unlimited access to other thought-leaders online, muddying the waters of religion. This episode covers a lot of deconstructive territory, from traditional dualistic lenses, to what Christians believe about LGBTQ, and trying to convert people from other religions.

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#385 Matt Has Feelings Now May 24, 2018

Matt's getting oddly sentimental feelings towards people and experiences that he doesn't know what to do with, but Joey loves it! Also turns out we're still Christians, even though Fundamentalists would call us Satanists.

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#384 The Low Point in Joey's Marriage May 21, 2018

Joey's the happiest he can remember being his whole life, and shares some vulnerable moments about his marriage and how bad it really had gotten. We've heard a lot lately about the rising use of adderall, so we thought it'd be interesting to have our guests today on to talk about their all-natural supplement with similar effects to adderall.

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#383 Former Leader and Participant of Ex-Gay Program, Tim Rymel May 17, 2018

Tim Rymel is an author, educator, and rethinker. He grew up conservative and was even a leader at an ex-gay program, after joining to convert out of his same-sex attraction. Now he's a social justice writer and advocate for giving a voice to the dissonant questions that reside in all of us. Matt recaps his trip to NYC with his daughter and Toby has an update on the new Emery album.

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#382 Commentator and Writer Andrew Klavan May 14, 2018

Today's guest is host of "The Andrew Klavan Show" on The Daily Wire, and author of multiple books turned movies, such as "True Crime" and "Don't Say a Word." Our discussion mostly revolves around topics discussed on his show: political satire, cultural commentary, and mockery of modern absurdities.

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#381 Austen Lionheart: Transgender Christian May 10, 2018

Austen Hartke, author of "Transforming: The Bible and the Lives of Transgender Christians" joins us to tell his story and humors our ignorant questions. With a Masters of Arts in Old Testament Studies, Austen seeks to understand and share parts of the Bible that relate to gender identity and the lives of transgender individuals.

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#380 Comedian Owen Benjamin May 07, 2018

If you haven't heard of Owen Benjamin before, he's the comedian who got permanently suspended from using twitter. We talk with him about jokes, how they work, and why humor is important.

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#379 Celebrity Pastors Gone Wild May 03, 2018

Joey recently heard some whopper of stories about famous pastors that seem to indicate them as entitled spoiled brats. Toby thinks Joey may be a bit too hard on them and believes it's crazy that we can't just say their names on air. What's a celebrity pastor anyway and are these stories incriminating no matter how you slice them? Oh, yeah, and YouTube takes over Matt's daughter and household.

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#378 Underoath's Aaron and Tim Couldn't Give Two F***s About Your Opinion Apr 30, 2018

Today we're just hanging out with Tim McTague and Aaron Gillespie of Underoath for an hour, talking about backlash they've gotten from their new album, and who among them has lost their faith.

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#377 You Only Live Once (w/ Matt and Kristie MacDonald of Vocal Few) Apr 26, 2018

The status quo is something we all define our lives by. Some seek to find it while others reject it in favor of a different life. Kristie and Matt MacDonald have chosen the latter. From moving their family to another country to touring the US with their three kids, these two have taken an alternative path, and it seems to be working. Check out their summer tour and new EP coming soon! Also, Matt's outraged about recycling.

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#376 11-Year-Old Pentecostal Pastor to Rabbinical Student to UCC Preacher, Jon Propper Apr 23, 2018

Jon Propper might be the best example of a full deconstruction and reconstruction of faith that we've heard from. As a pastor's kid, he grew up and even started preaching himself at 11 years old. He walks us through his journey of converting to Judaism, and then rounding back to Christianity in a bit different form. We also propose that it might be best to legalize prostitution for the sake of regulation.

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#375 Ray Harkins of Taken Apr 20, 2018

Ray Harkins is a good friend of the show, he hosts the 100 Words or Less Podcast, and is the lead singer of the band Taken, who came out of the melodic hardcore scene in the early 2000's. After helping his wife battle cancer, Ray decided to write about something real and vulnerable on Taken's new EP "With Regard To." Also, why are people stoked on Justin Bieber's worship set at a festival, and yet Underoath gets scorned for swearing on an album?

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#374 Matt's a Liar About the Enneagram Test Apr 16, 2018

Matt appeared on a podcast that despite Matt's "enneagram skepticism," pegged his number. Social media has us convinced that we are more liked and cared for than we really are. Lastly, the Damn News is back and the latest mass shooter is apparently a hero to many.

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#373 Joey's Sexist Premarital Counseling Approach Apr 12, 2018

Joey found some of his old premarital counseling notes. Now his chauvinistic approach to counseling couples only four years ago leaves him embarrassed. Bill Hybels, lead pastor of Willow Creek Church, steps down and it doesn't look good for him. According to Francis Chan, we should probably not talk about it.

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#372 The Worst Missionary Jamie Wright Wrote a Book Apr 09, 2018

Returning guest, Jamie Wright wrote a memoir on her journey of falling in and out of love with evangelicalism only falling in and out of love with missionary work right afterwards. "The Very Worst Missionary: A Memoir or Whatever" is a very honest look at her personal growth, personal flaws and the role that "church" and faith played throughout her journey.

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#371 No One Trusts the Church Apr 05, 2018

Authors Jonathan Bock and Phil Cooke discuss the premise of their new book, "The Way Back: How Christians Blew Our Credibility and How We Get It Back." Just how did the church lose credibility? Toby went to church on Easter and said "shit" when he spilled Jesus' blood and let's make fun of a Men's Conference.

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#370 Alice Connor: Badass Women of the Bible Aren't Talked About Apr 02, 2018

Why don't we hear stories about Deborah, the only female Judge in the Bible, in Sunday School? Alice Connor is the author of "Fierce: Women of the Bible and Their Stories of Violence, Mercy, Bravery, Wisdom, Sex, and Salvation." She joins us on this episode to discuss some of the biblical women overlooked and misconstrued in modern Christianity.

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#369 Just Get with the Changing Times Already Mar 29, 2018

Regardless of whether the future is scary or unnerving, do yourself a favor: grit your teeth and go with it. Our bodies are also falling apart, Matt thinks rock music is dead and maybe money can make you happy after all.

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#368 Jen Matthews and Her Famous Football Family Mar 26, 2018

Jen Matthews' family lives and breathes football - including her Super Bowl Champ brother, Clay Matthews, of the Green Bay Packers. Hear what it's like being a woman in this family of football studs and why Jen left a promising NFL broadcasting career to have an integral part in extending the efforts of pray.com, an interactive app that uses technology to unite people in prayer. Lastly, it took Joey years to realize he was inconsiderate in making sport of his wife being sexually violated in her college years.

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#367 The 19% of Evangelical Non-Trump Voters with Depolarizers Dan and Ellen Mar 22, 2018

Hosts of Depolarize! Podcast, Dan and Ellen, come in studio to hang out and give us an update on this masterpiece of a podcast. Season two brings in new co-host, Ellen Mauro, as they track down and interview Trump supporters and non-supporters from all walks of life, depolarizing the world one person at a time.

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#366 Toby Hears God's Voice and Matt Can't Imagine Existence After Life Mar 19, 2018

We all know Joey doesn't believe in hell, but with all the death Matt has experienced in the last few years, he has a hard time imagining that there is a heaven or a hell. Also Toby shares a specific encounter he had with God that he cannot ignore.

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#365 Unspoken Prayers and Joey’s Holistic Mental Health Method Mar 15, 2018

Fish oils, exercise, less sugar, SSRIs, and dropping more ingrained religion is given Joey hope in 2018, but even as this new approach seems to be working, there’s still fear that it shouldn’t be this good. Also what do you do when someone asks you to pray for an unspoken? Does it even matter?

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#364 Reva Hansen: What it's like in the Emery and BadChristian Workplace Mar 12, 2018

Employee of ours for four years, Reva talks about what it's like to be the only female on the tour bus, and to work with Matt, Toby, and Joey on a daily basis. How much should a group of guys adjust their behavior to accommodate for gender equality in a rough environment like a rock band tour?

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#363 Tommy Green (Sleeping Giant) Tells Personal Story of the Devastations of Human Trafficking Mar 08, 2018

Tommy and his wife's lives were deeply impacted and changed by the great loss of a sweet teenage girl named Anna. Hear how they have decided to use her life and death to bring hope to others. Tommy also chimes in on what Jesus's love should mean in today's polarizing, hate-filled culture that even many Christians have been caught up in. Maybe Jesus was serious about the whole "loving others" thing after all?

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#362 25 Shows in 24 Hours with Switchfoot's Jon Foreman Mar 05, 2018

Ever have a crazy (but good) idea and never had the guts to go for it? Jon Foreman of Switchfoot decided to go for his crazy dream of playing 25 shows in 24 hours, all in different locations of San Diego. From a hospital that saved his daughter's life years prior, to his old high school with the marching band, Jon and his friends gave and received the true gift of community, musical expression, adventure, and a deeper sense of what life is all about.

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#361 Burning Down the Shack! Mar 02, 2018

James DeYoung tells us why Paul Young, author of The Shack, might be leading us all to hell.

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#360 Pro Life, Pro Choice, or “Whole Life Ethic” with Ellen Mauro Feb 26, 2018

Ellen Mauro is the new co-host of the Depolarize Podcast, which has a new season coming soon. She is an advocate for both women and the unborn. The topic of abortion seems to largely be discussed on a group or national level, but the realities of individuals and their circumstances are always more complex than the big picture and the self righteous on both sides want to acknowledge. Links & Sponsors:

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#359 Kevin Max of DC Talk Feb 23, 2018

Kevin Max showed interest right away in our documentary "What Would Jesus Sell," so we got him on to talk about why that piqued his interest, and how he's seen the Christian music industry change throughout his career. We also reflect on the death of "America's Pastor" Billy Graham.

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#358 Juanita Broaddrick (Bill Clinton Rape Accuser) Feb 19, 2018

Juanita Broaddrick alleges that she was forcibly raped by bill Clinton in 1978. She shares with us the details surround the event itself, and what has happened since.

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#357 Do You Want to Live in a Zoo? Feb 15, 2018

Matt goes on a rant about how the work of the future will center around creativity and meaning. As technology and artificial intelligence increase, it will be up to us to invent and define meaningful work. Alternatively, those who aren't able to do so will find their life akin to that of a zoo animal.

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#356 Thought Experiment: Could Churches be a Net Negative? Feb 12, 2018

Systems, institutions, and organizations tend to grow and change some along the way, but they rarely reverse course entirely or realize when they have become ineffective or even counterproductive. That's partly because the participants don't like to challenge their own system and outsiders criticism is easily dismissed.

We know people outside our churches have criticism, and we are aware of the tendency inside to continually give the benefit of the doubt. Seems like this is a bad recipe and begs the question, "How would we know if any or all particular church expressions were doing more harm than good tot he overall body?"

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#355 Mars Hill Church Women Speak Feb 08, 2018

Something they weren't allowed to do at Mars Hill Church (Seattle, WA), Jen Smidt, Melanie Studley, and Candice Clem articulate how they were "indoctrinated" into this church culture that masked sexism with a vision to see men lead at home, church, and in the community. Hear this panel of women at our BC Con describe details that will have your head shaking in disbelief. How was it so easy for these women and their husbands to be deceived into being a part of such an unhealthy culture. Matt, Toby, and Joey discuss the epidemic of deconstructing vocational church employees who are becoming increasingly uncomfortable in their roles, due to their changing beliefs.

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#354 Connecting Kids to Their Incarcerated Parents (with Cyril Prabhu) Feb 07, 2018

In order to stop the ugly generational cycle of incarceration, Cyril serves families by trying to help restore relationships between kids and their incarcerated parents. He's making quite an impact and you may need to grab quite a few tissues for this one. Matt, Toby, and Joey reflect on the conference and what it means to BadChristian. Joey and Toby reflect on how their decade old plans of potentially starting a church. Turns out it's a lot different than what they had imagined.

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#353 TJ from As Cities Burn plus a Panel from BadChristian Con Feb 02, 2018

The BadChristian Conference this past weekend was a great success! We're sharing one of the panels from the weekend with you all called "The Gospel, Victimhood, and the Marginalized" with Jonathan Merritt, Derek Minor, Candice from Free Sex, and her awesome friend Nicole. To preface, TJ from As Cities Burn hopped on to take Joey's spot as a break from the current Emery and ACB tour.

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#352 God Didn't Need Jesus to Die in Order to Forgive Sins (Says Baptist Pastor, Chuck Queen) Jan 30, 2018

He may look and sound like a Baptist preacher, but Pastor Queen isn't convinced in Jesus' divinity, doesn't believe Jesus "had to" die in order for man to be saved, thinks there's other ways of finding God (outside of Jesus) and yet is a Baptist minister. We also talk discipleship in the context of this post-modern Christian culture that is rapidly growing.

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#351 Bad Days and How God's Word isn't Helping Jan 25, 2018

Matt and Toby are having a bad day and due to their "made up professions," don't feel like grownups yet. Joey is reading Rob Bell heresy and in this current time of immense rethinking among Matt, Toby, and Joey, a passage in Bell's newest book sparks a conversation on what the hell we are supposed to be doing with the Bible.

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#350 Jaclyn Friedman, Sexual Liberation Activist Jan 22, 2018

Jaclyn in zealous to see everyone liberated from sexual limitations; orgies, open marriages, anything goes as long as it includes mutual respect. She's insightful and subversive to America's common approach towards sexual morals. Matt and Jaclyn disagree about the premise of the Aziz Ansari allegations and how they should be treated. Is the tide changing on how we view sex?

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#349 Fundamentalists Are No Fun Jan 18, 2018

When we started this podcast, we knew we'd get some things right and some things wrong and at some point Fundamental Christians would try to shut us down. Turns out we were right about the fundamentalist part. Now we're out here trying to push against fundamentalism from wherever it comes from.

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#348 Podcasting as an Exercise in Thinking Jan 15, 2018

On this episode, among many other things, Joey talks about an older man he knows using weed (illegally) to cope with pain instead of his prescribed drugs, and feeling guilty about it. We're having a blast doing this podcast; it really is a privilege to be able to hang with our friends and process out loud. It's a bonus to know we've helped other people a find like-minded group although on the internet. It's kind of a win-win, so thanks to all you listeners for putting up with our dumb asses.

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#347 Author of "The Shack," Paul Young Jan 11, 2018

William Paul Young had a fundamental, evangelical upbringing that included many false beliefs about God. That led to many questions the church isn’t typically good at entertaining or even allowing, but he couldn’t stop asking. After coming clean about a marital affair to his wife, a new process of learning began in which false notions of God were discarded, and he wrote The Shack to share his new revelation of God with his friends and family. Hear about Young’s love for God as well as his rejection of many doctrines that most evangelical churches would deem essential.

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#346 Sad Day When We Can't Laugh at What We Find Hilarious Jan 08, 2018

Dave Chapelle gave us a gift in a couple of holiday specials, we were treated to lots of joyous laughs. Isn't that just outright good? Some people are still upset for him not being politically correct or sensitive enough. We're going to start regulating laughter? We're getting back on track with our diet but that all ends at the BadChristianCon.com. Lastly, Matt has a whopper, something along the lines of kids never having to be thankful for their parents?

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#345 Toby Might Stop Believing in God Because of BadChristian Hecklers Jan 04, 2018

We are constantly changing in our faith, persistently holding on to personal experiences we've had, but many times, we come at potentially scary crossroads of doubt. Joey is scared of religion scarring his kids, and Matt thinks it's crazy when parents marvel at how different their kids' personalities are.

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#344 Stephen Baldwin "God Wanted Trump to be President" Dec 19, 2017

Actor Stephen Baldwin from the films The Usual Suspects, BioDome, and a new TV show Great American Pilgrimage explains how he became the "Jesus Freak of Hollywood," and tells us why God ordained Trump to be President.

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#343 Chad Johnson: Taking Risks at Ego's Cost Dec 15, 2017

Our friend Chad Johnson came on today to talk about his new book One Thousand Risks, and they talk death after his dad passed away this weekend. Before that, Matt gets on a rant about how we're messing up our kids' lives by putting them online: i.e. the bullied kid whose video went viral this past week when his mom posted it to the public.

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#342 Greg Surratt: Founding Pastor of Seacoast Church and Joey's Boss Dec 12, 2017

Greg Surratt leads one of the largest churches in the world that influences churches worldwide. The question still stands, why does he let Joey do The BadChristian Podcast? We talk about this and bring to the table the many complaints we've articulated on this podcast about pastors, moral failures, and mega-church culture.

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#341 Greg Boyd: Moving from Calvinism to Open Theism Dec 08, 2017

Author of "The Myth of a Christian Nation" and founder of ReKnew.org answers some of Matt and Toby's questions about what Open Theism's believes about God differently from Calvinism and Arminianism. We talk a lot about the omniscience of God and predestination. He also helps explain the problem with the Calvinistic view of Christians as The Elect.

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#340 BadChristian Con Broke Twitter This Weekend Dec 05, 2017

There was an ugly and embarrassing thread on Twitter this weekend. Many of you observed it, and many participated in it. It was primarily in regards to the inclusion of Preston Sprinkle at BadChristian Con. Some feel that he is a bigot and his views are tantamount to violence and that BC is implicated by giving him the stage. I (Matt) think it's a tragic look and insight into the negative side of a text-based, hyper-connected platform like twitter. In order to try to rectify that, we have invited people from both sides of the argument to see if the vitriol is real, or just something that happens when we are behind our keyboards. The guests today are BC Club members Adrian and Tierney, who were defending BC and also Stacey Midge who was a vocal opponent to BC's platform.

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#339 Zombie Pastors and BadChristian Con Dec 01, 2017

Jake Meador, author of the article "Ecclesiology and the Zombie Pastors Problem," joins to discuss issues with pastors like Mark Driscoll (among others) coming back to ministry after being disqualified. Jake points out that the process of reconciliation between pastors and ministry is either to short and easy, or non-existent. We also announce the first BadChristian Conference, with featured guests Pete Enns, Jonathan Merritt, and other speakers, music by Emery, Kings Kaleidoscope, As Cities Burn, and more, and parities, semi-formal winter ball, panels, learning sessions, and lots of fun.

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#338 Lecrae: Too Black for White Evangelicals Nov 28, 2017

After months of self-discovery, Lecrae wrote his best and most honest album to date. White Evangelicals couldn't handle it though, and want him to stay in the safe lane they're comfortable with. #lecrae@yourchurch

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#337 Death, Gender, "Gay Stuff" Nov 23, 2017

We've got a lot to talk about on this one. The bible isn't clearly against multiple sex partners, or at least not clear enough, laments Joey. Matt, Toby, and Joey lose a college friend way too early. Is sexual identity an overblown concept? How does society act as a software that keeps humanity in check?

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#336 Do Churches Intentionally Keep Their Flock in Need? Nov 21, 2017

Toby's thoughts on psychics and their manipulation tactics ruffles Joey's feathers when he tried to extent the criticism to pastors. Matt makes a case for needing colorful characters in the world through an example of a keyed up hockey coach.

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#335 Who Cares What You Think About Transgender People Nov 16, 2017

It seems that these days everyone expects a consensus view from everyone else. That is nonsense. We suggest a nice dose of taking yourself and everyone else less seriously. Take a deep breath and try to enjoy YOUR life and worry a bit less about other people's lives.

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#334 Where are the Instructions for How to Read the Bible? Nov 14, 2017

Today we (Matt, Toby, and Joey) find ourselves in a conversation about the Biblical cannon, and if it is forever closed, and why we think it is or isnt. If we're honest, it can't be as simple as, "God said it, I believe it, and that settles it."

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#333 Chris Stroop Says #EmptyThePews Nov 10, 2017

Many Atheists, Agnostics, and Christians, despite their stark differences, have the common ingredient of being “Ex-Evangelical.” Within the faith of Christianity, the scales have been tipped (credit the November 2016 Presidential Election) to cause a large sect of Christianity to bow out of evangelicalism. How important is it for this movement to grow? Self-identified nerd and Ph.D. in Russian history (Stanford), Christopher Stroop is an Ex-Evangelical and started the movement #EmptyThePews. He is a compelling voice for evangelicalism to pack its bag and go the hell back to where it came from. Matt’s eccentric personality is reflected in his parenting as he shares a story on his refusal to allow his daughter to comply.

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#332 Perry Noble is a Bad Christian and So Are We Nov 06, 2017

NewSpring Church, according to Toby's Damn News, has declining attendance and income due to its parting with founding Pastor Perry Noble, who is now getting a divorce. Is Perry a "bad guy?" Is he a victim? Either way, we wish him well, and truly feel bad for what he is going through. Toby can't stop eating Halloween candy, but wonders if Halloween traditions will go away soon.

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#331 Jonathan Martin: Banned For Life From Liberty University Nov 03, 2017

Cops escorted Pastor and author Jonathan Martin off the Liberty University campus during a JOHNNYSWIM show while he was hanging with his friends in the greenroom. He was banned for life from Liberty University for planning a prayer meeting and opposing Trump and Jerry Falwell Jr. What’s the condition of the church when opposing points of view aren’t even welcomed? What role does authoritarianism play in the church? Before any of this conversation starts, Matt and Toby dissect Joey’s current depressive state.

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#330 If the Bible Were a Film, It Would Be Rated NC-17 (w/ Spencer Folmar) Oct 31, 2017

Movie director, Spencer T. Folmar, wants to use film to present the hope he’s found in Jesus. Many Christians aren’t buying his intentions however given the colorful language, including the monstrous “F word,” that’s replete through his films. We talk “constructive nudity,” “senseless violence,” “The Passion of Christ” and the potential of Christians making REAL movies.

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#329 Why After Talking To Atheists for 10 Years, I’m Still a Christian (w/ Justin Brierley) Oct 26, 2017

Author and host of radio show and podcast “Unbelievable?” talks faith, atheism, and how the two groups misunderstand one another. He’s maintained an open mind to learn, and has had his faith stretched by some of these brilliant atheists, but still maintains his Christian faith. Justin, along with Matt, Toby, and Joey talk significantly about moral relativism. Toby realizes just how much he believes in Jesus; and oil leaks are always bad. . . unless it’s a bible.

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#328 Church Clarity with George Mekhail Oct 24, 2017

Making what you believe clear is something that you'd think all churches would like, but apparently George Mekhail's "Church Clarity" project has stirred up some unrest among churches since they score a church's transparency on where they stand with LGBTQ issues. Joey claims the hashtag #thatsnotme after coming out as no longer Evangelical.

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#327 “Girls & Sex” Best-Selling Author and TEDTalks Speaker, Peggy Orenstein Oct 19, 2017

Shame, pain, and humiliation shouldn’t be words commonly used by women to describe sexual encounters. Teen girls shouldn’t feel obligated to return the favor by sexually fulfilling boys who take them out on a fun date. Labiaplasties (surgery of trimming the labia) shouldn’t be on the rise, but even that sex education class in middle school discusses “ejaculation and orgasms” for guys, but “risk and danger” for the ladies. Young girls are being cultured to forfeit pleasure, freedom, and confidence in the bedroom. Peggy Orenstein is trying to change these cultural attitudes towards, practices and expectations for women and sex.

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#326 Did Matt Have a Spiritual Experience at a Christian Concert? Oct 17, 2017

Matt’s logical brain was discombobulated by a synergistic experience he had this weekend at a Kings Kaleidoscope show which made him realize there might be more to this human experience than can be emulated by AI despite having tried VR for the first time just two days prior. Toby takes Matt’s explanation of reality farther than most would, but reveals the inevitable generational gap where “back in the day” will mean when physical vacations and relationships were primary over VR and pod life.

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#325 Holy and Queer are Synonymous with Pastor Brandan Robertson Oct 12, 2017

Despite his conservative upbringing, Brandan Robertson’s first book deal was canceled due to him being vocal about affirming LGBTQ after studying the topic intensively for two years. He eventually came out as bisexual himself, and has become an influential writer for TIME Magazine, Huffington Post, NBC, as well as the author of multiple books on sexuality. Also on this episode, we talk Harvey Weinstein, sexual favors for gain, and Matt’s theory on a future “celebrity death boom.”

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#324 Masculinity and Femininity Needs to be Re-framed Oct 10, 2017

Toxic masculinity, good and healthy masculinity, men and women's ministries; do we pigeonhole folks to a certain brand of masculinity and femininity? Can this be harmful? One thing is for sure, thinking through all of this is much more complex than we give it credit for. Toby ends things with a “things that make me mad list,” including his laments on not being able to let out “sad farts."

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#323 How Faith and Science Work Together with Jim Stump Oct 06, 2017

There's no need to go to the Bible for an explanation on fossil records or insight on cancer research. It's equally pointless turning to science for data on how to solve your moral dilemmas. Jim Stump, Senior Editor at Biologos and author of "Science and Christianity: An Introduction to the Issues," invites the church to see the harmony between science and biblical faith as he and his organization present an evolutionary understanding of God’s creation. Matt, Toby, and Joey discuss Cam Newton’s (QB, Carolina Panthers) sexist remarks to a female reporter, and Matt explains his unique theory on the real problem behind mass shootings; and it has nothing to do with guns.

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#322 Las Vegas Tragedy Makes Us Miss Obama Oct 03, 2017

With the shooting in Las Vegas, it seemed weird to be “business as usual,” advertising products, laughing, cutting jokes, but isn’t laughing good for the soul? We share some jokes in which we’ve taken things too far, talk about Matt Chandler’s decision to only pastor one church with one location, reflect on Trump’s presidency in times like these and brag on (once again) Seacoast Church.

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#321 I Guess We're Post Christian? Sep 29, 2017

There’s a lot of movement in Christianity and it's not always movement away from belief in Jesus, but rather the extraneous practices, beliefs and approaches to life that over time have become synonymous with Christianity. Maybe those Christians who stand up and say "Not anymore! We won’t be known for this!" are post-Christians? We also discover the apple not falling far from the tree in the Svendsen household: Joey’s son has a penis marveling moment, and his daughter feels unreal guilt. Plus The Damn News is back with a story about a generous hero of ours and MALE sex robots.

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#320 Chris Date: Eternal Conscious Torment is Not Necessary Sep 26, 2017

Chris Date of the Rethinking Hell Podcast is a very conservative Christian who's a masterful debater and theologian making such a convincing case against the traditional view of hell (in which people are eternally and consciously tormented) that even Joey's starting to believe him. As a biblical inerrantist, he claims the bible teaches annihilationism. In other talk, Matt, Toby, and Joey discuss the senselessness of all the NFL kneeling, non-kneeling, stay in the locker room, link arms hoop-lah.

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#319 How to Spot a Christian Scam & What's "the Anointing?" Sep 22, 2017

There’s a bible secreting oil, which you can access for free to receive healing, and Joey was offered some. Do some people have an anointing or are they just good at what they do? On tour last week, Toby, Matt, and the rest of the Emery clan took a stab at stand-up comedy, and Toby objectified women in Buc-ee's on his way to the True Man Experience, where he talks to men about masculinity.

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#318 Special Guest Ryan Rado Sees His Tourettes Disorder as a Super Power Sep 18, 2017

As Cities Burn and Jonezetta's artist manager Ryan Rado gets real about Tourette's. It may have been awkward for him to uncontrollably shout "God Damn!" to an audience at a Christian music festival; and flipping people off uncontrollably does indeed put some one in a certain box, but Ryan, who still struggles with this disorder, has come out on top. Hear about his relationship with Jesus, his assessment on logic and self-analysis being equally important as compassion and empathy, and his newly found passion for painting.

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#317 God is Limited in Power and Doesn't Know the Future with Tom Oord Sep 14, 2017

God’s omniscience and omnipotence are such common doctrines, we forget there are sincere Christians who don't believe in either. Open theology teaches that true human freewill and God’s foreknowledge of the future is incompatible. Thomas Oord, leading theologian in this doctrine, explains the peace he has knowing that evil exists because God can’t stop it. We also listen to and dissect Joel Osteen's response to the whole "our doors were closed until you asked us to open them" fiasco.

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#316 Most Churches Are Only Suited for a Certain Type of Christian (Tragic) Sep 11, 2017

Do Christians have “senseless faith,” holding on to beliefs that are not only insignificant but also illogical? Churches position themselves not for Christians but only for a certain type of Christian. This is tragic when true believing skeptics can’t have a community to fellowship with. Toby brings some sad news on Chuck E. Cheese and Joey admits to paying $600 for a pet cat.

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#315 Christians Love the Enneagram with expert Chris Heuertz Sep 07, 2017

We talk to Chris Heuertz, best-selling author of "The Sacred Enneagram: Finding Your Unique Path to Spiritual Growth" partially just to find out if this enneagram stuff is legit or not. We discuss whether it was created by humans as a tool for understanding, or is innate to a deeper spiritual truth of how we're created. Matt shares some BC Music news, and Joey witnesses the potential animalistic tendencies of humans when he waited in line for sandbags in preparing for the approaching hurricane.

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#314 Joel Osteen, Church Tax Exemptions, and Conspiracies with Nate from Sherwood Sep 04, 2017

Joel Osteen, wealthy pastor in Houston, drags his feet on serving others, but is there more to the story? Should he be given the benefit of the doubt? Speaking of pastors and churches, it’s uncanny, the tax benefits received by their likes. Should Pastor Joey feel a bit guilty? Lastly, Nate Henry and Sherwood are going on tour and Nate finds common ground with Joey’s gravitation towards conspiracies including moon landing, 911, JFK assassination, and Big Foot.

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#313 A Group of Prolific Pastors Say "Peace Out" to Gay Community Aug 31, 2017

It's called the Nashville Statement. It's when church leaders’ desire to make a public stance on human sexuality comes to a head and many pastors sign a statement to make sure every one knows exactly where they stand on others' sexuality. But many are asking, why the focus on gay people? Why the need to draw a line? All this makes us wonder what Jesus would do in today's church culture, and why these folks didn't repent on behalf of the church’s mistreatment of the LGBTQ community.

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#312 The Straightedge Movement (w/ Ray Harkins) Aug 28, 2017

Ray Harkins, host of 100 Words or Less podcast, talks about being straightedge with Matt, Toby, and Joey, and its parallel with Christianity having in-group out-group dynamics. What does Toby’s parody worship song teach us about the church and Christianity? Lastly, it’s Matt's 38th birthday and A-I will write pop songs in roughly 14 years.

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#311 Mark Salomon of Stavesacre and Toby's Worship Song Hits the Charts Aug 24, 2017

Mark Salomon from Stavesacre is someone who has paved the way for bands like Emery, Underoath, and Norma Jean. They have a new album coming out, so he joined us today and we talk about the album and working for NASCAR. A few episodes back, Toby was tasked with writing a hit worship song, and the task is officially completed with today's release of the fully produced single "Forever Rain" that's steadily climbing the charts on iTunes!

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#310 Perry Noble is Founding New Church!? Aug 21, 2017

Fallen pastors seem to want to reclaim the stage as quickly as possible. Could it be that being a Mega Church Pastor is the primary catalyst for pastors’ “moral failures?” What is it that motivates pastors like Perry Noble to start a new church? Is it an addiction? It’s also back to school time so all the Christian kids are back on the mission field to keep classmates out of hell, and lastly, we had a guest whose husband went 7 years without masturbating and some of our listeners were utterly pissed.

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#309 Jory Micah: Feminist and Egalitarian who Celebrates Gender Differences Aug 17, 2017

Influential blogger and writer, Jory Micah was fired from her college teaching job for as a result of her controversial feminist views. She is angered by the church’s discrimination against female leadership and how that prevents many from being who God has made them to be. She also doesn’t believe in a marital submission that is unique to wives. Potentially even more interesting is her celebration of gender uniqueness. Men and women both have strengths and weaknesses that are typically common for their gender. This feminist may just piss off the feminists. Matt introduces an invention that could save the lives of many kids, and Toby brings a news story that supports Matt’s assessment of McDonalds.

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#308 Anti-Christian Biases in Media and Hollywood (with Billy Hallowell) Aug 14, 2017

Christians withdrawing from "the world" of media and culture has partly caused a natural bias against Christians from having a lack of influence there. Billy Hallowell helps us untangle this, being culture-focused writer. They also discuss responses to the recent Charlottesville protests by white nationalists.

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#307 Ex-Porn Star on Women's Responsibility to Modesty Aug 11, 2017

Ex-porn star, Brittni De La Mora, speaks about women's responsibility through modesty to help men not stumble, and Candice from the Free Sex expresses how evangelical culture made her ashamed of her body.

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#306 Is Suicide a Cowardly Act? (with Levi the Poet and Matt MacDonald) Aug 09, 2017

After the untimely death and suicide of Chester Bennington, people’s hearts were grieved, but added to their sadness, came anger and accusations of cowardice. Matt MacDonald (The Classic Crime, Vocal Few) was in this camp, and took heat for some cold comments made on social media. Him and Levi the Poet, who lost his dad to suicide, talk all this through as we delve into the devastating act of suicide. Before that, Matt shares the benefits of what could be called “butt-dial therapy,” and Toby is taking his True Man Experience to Texas!

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#305 What if Jesus Was a Liar? Aug 08, 2017

You’ve all heard “Liar, Lunatic, or Lord,” but why isn’t it plausible for Jesus to be a “liar” or “lunatic?” 2000 years after the apparent resurrection, couldn’t Christians be off or mislead in how we interpret history? All the same, we still believe, and feel strongly that Christians can learn a lot from atheists. At the same time, before atheists write off Christianity, it may be helpful for some to truly understand what we believe in the first place. Lastly, Toby and Matt discuss the huge perks of playing in a worship band.

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#304 John Mark McMillan’s Crisis of Faith Aug 04, 2017

John Mark McMillan joins to discuss his new album “Mercury & Lightning,” which he wrote while processing a faith crisis, replete with anxiety and doubt, leaving him with honest songs depicting his struggles with God. He takes a risk with the departure from his usual worship style, as it follows his process of rethinking and then reconstructing his faith. Before he comes on, Matt expresses his anger towards “Brangelina” and Toby discovers that “alone time” may actually be good for him every once in awhile.

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#303 Insecure Egotistical Douche Bag Dudes think They’re Masculine (Jordan Harbinger Part II) Aug 01, 2017

The most successful people have coaches or mentors and recognize the great need for guidance. Not so with Douche Bag Dudes. Jordan Harbinger (host of Art of Charm Podcast) talks about what Art of Charm boot camp can offer people, discusses the power of humility and the stagnancy caused by ego. How do we appreciate masculinity in a politically correct way and what’s wrong with our stereotyping of masculinity in the first place? Lastly, should overweight people pay for more than one seat in a plane, pyramid schemes, and the Damn News bring you some crazy information on DNA and sex. Oh yeah, and Matt thinks we are all made of menstruation.

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#302 Artificial Intelligence is God Jul 27, 2017

Maybe it’s God or if not, maybe his plan of redemption? Either way, Christians are going to be so pissed when they found out the truth. In other topics, McDonalds vs. Church, are people going to stop having kids, and those damn midwesterners. And in the Damn News, man falls in love with his sex doll. His wife was upset at first, but she’s fine now.

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#301 Michael and Lisa Gungor on Having the Plug Pulled on Their Show Jul 24, 2017

Michael and Lisa Gungor join to tell the story of their recent show getting shut down during a Q&A. During an acoustic show at a Methodist Church, an atheist audience member prompted a strong reaction.

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#300 Journalist Jonathan Merritt on His Eugene Peterson Article Jul 21, 2017

Matt and Toby open the episode talking about news they just received of Linkin Park's Chester Bennington's suicide. Later Jonathan Merritt joins, the well-known journalist who wrote the article on Eugene Peterson. He dishes on what actually happened during the interview, and what it was like working with Peterson's publicists throughout the day, before and after Peterson retracted his statement. Churches will soon treat the LGBTQ community like they treat divorcees in the church. Also, congrats to us for hitting 300 episodes of The BadChristian Podcast!

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#299 Comedy vs. Racism Jul 19, 2017

We've come a long way from "Something About Mary," but have we lost the ability to communicate clearly in an overly PC culture? As society works hard to gain more ground in this area, it's on the shoulders of modern comedians to speak to deeper truths underlaying our country's history of and existing racism.

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#298 Mature Christians Should Be Able to Graduate from Church Jul 17, 2017

Why are we surprised when seasoned Christians are disinterested in “going to church?” Is it a fair statement to say that their faith in God may be too deep for it? Joey wonders how a non-conformist like Matt fit into the Mars Hill Church culture for so long. We also speculate why Eugene Peterson retracted his statement we discussed last week.

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#297 Eugene Peterson Supports Gay People, Then Doesn't, Then Yells at the Clouds Jul 14, 2017

Matt, Toby, and Joey discuss the Christian response to Eugene Peterson (author of The Message) coming out as gay affirming, only to find out after recording the episode that the old man changed his mind?

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#296 Complementarianism from a Woman’s Perspective (Martha Davenport) Jul 13, 2017

Can you be a progressive female, and also hold fast to complementarian views of headship and submission in the church and home? BC Club member Martha Davenport explores biblical complementarianism that is closer to egalitarianism than what the evangelical church might have you believe. Also, Toby’s having coyote problems that may put his kids on house arrest.

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#295 Alisa Childers Explains the Danger of Progressive Christian Thought Jul 11, 2017

Author of the article, “5 Signs Your Church Might Be Heading Toward Progressive Christianity” joins the show for a head-to-head discussion on why progressive christian thought is a danger to our children. Can Christians agree to disagree on matters of sexuality? Is there less "black and white" in the bible than what we were brought up to believe? Are there essentials of the Christian faith that are merely tradition and need to go? Or is Alisa's article spot on and we're all in trouble?

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#294 Going Mainstream Christian and Aaron Lunsford’s Day From Hell (Live at AudioFeed Festival) Jul 06, 2017

Traveling around and talking to podcast listeners, we’ve found that The BadChristian Podcast is listened to by pastors, volunteers, and attendees of mainstream churches. Most of them just don’t admit to it. Aaron Lunsford tells his story of starting a BBQ business, having his new rig break down, and seeing his actual business go up in literal flames. All in one day. Lastly, BC Club boy proposes to BC Club girl on the show.

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#293 Can You Love and “Quit Church” at the Same Time? Jul 04, 2017

Matt and Toby wrote an album about this and Joey, who may be going a bit overboard, thinks it’s lyrically revolutionary and has great implications for the church. Also, after performing at AudioFeed festival, Matt, Toby and Joey discuss the unfairness of strangers introducing themselves, only afterwards depending on them completely to carry the conversation from there. Lastly can humor be found in any situation? Toby tells a tragic story in the Damn News that may be hard not to laugh at.

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#292 Wait, How Did We Become Progressives?! Jun 29, 2017

The guys are agitated by an article entitled, “Progressive Christianity is as much of a threat to your kids faith as atheism” the article echoes a popular evangelical sentiment that claims their specific way of reading and interpreting the bible is the only one that is even reasonable. Matt, Toby and Joey explore the notion that just a few years ago they would have felt the same way and wrote off people like Rob Bell.

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#291 How “Being Relevant” Backfired on the Church (w/ Skye Jethani) Jun 27, 2017

Co-host of the Phil Vischer (VeggieTales creator) Podcast and author of multiple books including newest, “What's Wrong With Religion: 9 Things No One Told You About Faith,” Skye Jethani talks the ABC’s of mega-church culture (attendance, buildings, and cash), and how “being relevant” isn’t bidding well for this brand of Christianity. He also recounts some fun stories including blasting a bunch of pastors at a conference he was asked to speak. In BadChristian world, Toby is overly concerned and inquisitive about ticks and Joey shares anxiety that he experiences during BadChristian interviews.

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#290 Former Elevation Church Member Jun 22, 2017

Given the numerous times mega-church Elevation (Charlotte, NC) has made headlines in recent years, this church and its gifted celebrity pastor, Steven Furtick, has often been a topic of conversation on this podcast. On this episode, we brought on a former super-volunteer and intern from the church and discussed some of the oddities behind the scenes there. Matt is also worried about the current state of our country and world, Toby made a video to his future hit worship song (Hillsong, beware), and a Packer fan takes his wife’s last name because her last name is “Packer.”

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#289 The Implications of Dave Bazan Opening for John Mark McMillan at Christian Festival (AudioFeed) Jun 19, 2017

Luke Welchel, co-founder of AudioFeed Festival joins to discuss the mixed lineup. As he says, “If we want non-Christians to come to the festival, why wouldn’t we let them play it?” Joey’s senile grandma is stealing from other nursing home residents, and Toby wants to rename female genitalia.

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#288 The Alt-Right is Evil plus Jordan Harbinger (The Art of Charm) Jun 16, 2017

Jordan Harbinger, host of The Art of Charm podcast, which has 3 million monthly listeners, joins to discuss the alt-right and how we should think about and treat internet trolls like toddlers. Matt, Toby, and Joey praise the Southern Baptist Convention for officially condemning the alt-right movement. Plus, Joey has an embarrassing parenting moment, and Toby brings some new truth to an old story.

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#287 Potential Benefits of Nudity & Replay of Joey's Epic Penis Confession Jun 13, 2017

Sex is either treated as overly-sacred or overly-vile. This influences how parents manage nudity in their household amongst family members and how “private parts” are treated and discussed. Would society benefit from everyone just chilling out a bit? If nudity wasn’t so taboo, would people’s sexuality benefit? In other topics, is it weird that God would just beat the hell out of someone for not listening to Him and Muslim salvation tracks vs. Christian salvation tracks. Don’t forget the Damn News! Is it fair for a transgender male athlete to label himself female and compete in females athletic events?

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#286 Abortion and Hell. Our Actions Don't Match Our Beliefs. Jun 08, 2017

Which may mean we don't believe what we think? Matt doesn’t think he really believes a lot of what he intellectually accepts as true. Oh, and he doesn’t think you do either...about abortion, hell and gay people. Matt also makes some bold statements concerning parents of LGBTQ people. Joey and Toby are present too, don’t worry. Lastly, Emery has the “bus blues.” Are we witnessing the end of Emery?

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#285 What’s The Chances We Divorce Our Wives? Jun 06, 2017

Does Joey have too lofty of expectations with his marriage? Especially given he’s been depressed lately. I mean, how long can his wife survive that sad stuff? Toby cried himself to sleep a few times lately due to struggles in his marriage and Matt claims most guys wouldn’t have stayed married to his wife as long as he has but also calls his wife a treasure. Lastly, Joey teaches his mom that that “Prayer of Jabez Book” is a fraud.

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#284 Christians Should Chop Kathy Griffin’s Head Off Jun 01, 2017

As a society, we have serious problems with being too serious. We disagree with people but we want to destroy them as well? It’s crazy. It’s getting out of hand when one person’s life and legacy can be defined by 140 characters. Also, Joey steals from a restaurant.

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#283 Bradley Hathaway, the Illusion of Christian Morality and Epic Failure of Worship Music May 30, 2017

Toby thinks worship music deals too often with pain and struggle, especially when the song-writer lives in a first world country, plays the music with expensive instruments and state of the art equipment. I mean, how bad can things be, right? Joey sheds some different light on this observation. In addition, Matt, Toby and Joey discuss patriotism, constipation and "Things that Make Toby Angry." Lastly, our guest Bradley Hathaway discusses his new album "Flesh Eater" and its unorthodox, risky and potentially seen as risque' expression of sexuality.

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#282 Is Pastor Judah Smith Gay Affirming? Is BadChristian Podcast? May 26, 2017

George Mekhail, gay affirming Pastor, wrote a letter to mega church Pastor Judah Smith, (City Church, Seattle) asking for clarification on his ambiguous statement about church inclusion during a sermon. "Is City Church gay-affirming" George writes Judah Smith. "Will City Church affirm, baptize and marry gay people?" No answer after a few months. During this episode, George Mekhail highlights the importance of churches being clear on where they stand with gay inclusion, while Matt, Toby and Joey take this episode to try and practice that same level of clarity.

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#281 Every Deconstruction Needs a Reconstruction May 23, 2017

During this episode, you get a snapshot as to why BadChristian exists, how much money is made through this operation, where that money goes and why Matt, Toby and Joey spend a lot of time on things that make no money at all. The headliners of this episode however, are the hosts of BadChristian.com's newest podcast, "Reconstruct: The Collective Reconstruction of Our Faith." Join Dan Koch and John Raines on Reconstruct Podcast as they provide resources and community for people who are rethinking and reconstructing a faith in God.

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#280 Do Rachel Held Evans and Jen Hatmaker Need to Stay Quiet Unless They Have Church Accountability? May 20, 2017

On this episode we discuss a recent article from Christianity Today in which Anglican Priest, Tish Harrison Warren, claims that there is a "crisis of authority." She feels that bloggers like Jen Hatmaker and Rachel Held Evans don't have, but need formal accountability to be qualified as "teachers."

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#279 Toby Deals Harshly With a Heckler from Stage May 16, 2017

While Matt and Toby are on the road to perform new music from the upcoming Matt and Toby album, they have been rethinking what qualifies as appropriate interaction with females. Reva, an employee and friend of BadChristian, shares the tour bus with six other guys and it's surfaced a lot of interesting thoughts and reflection. For example, can it be disrespectful to make such an effort to be respectful of "THE GIRL that's present?" At one of the shows, Toby goes on a verbal tirade towards a young lady that heckles him during the Matt and Toby set. Lastly, Matt doesn't take showers and Joey ends this podcast with the saddest bomb of a low note one could ever imagine.

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#278 Scottie Henry (Norma Jean) still in the Dark About Josh Scoggin's Departure From the Band. May 12, 2017

What do you do when bad stuff happens in your personal life? Joey describes his warped strategy which entails thinking of the absolute worst thing that could ever happen in this life. That way, he can take comfort in his current circumstances "not being so bad." And the main event? Scottie Henry from that heavy band, Norma Jean, opens up about his confusion on why former band mate, Josh Scoggin quit the band; they never even talked about it. Scottie also talks about life after Norma Jean, what it's like having a job outside of music and catches us up to speed on his new band, Holy+Gold.

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#277 Robbie and Matt (The Classic Crime) and the Piranha Baptismal May 09, 2017

Robbie and Matt from The Classic Crime sit down on the tour bus with Matt and Toby to discuss some controversy around their new album.

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#276 Mega Churches: Is Their Expiration Date Approaching Soon? May 05, 2017

Steven Furtick and Elevation Church is at it again, raising some eye brows with something fishy. Maybe it's nothing but just in general, why are celebrities and politicians fair game for scrutiny amongst Christians but Pastors are off limits? Lastly, is the BadChristian Podcast and similar forms of media/entertainment becoming more legitimized as sources of information in the church? Because a Christian journalism outfit took information from Matt's podcast (Break it Down) and didn't even name him as a source! Maybe he deserves this though, considering on this episode he teaches us all how to steal from airlines during check-in.

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#275 The Nephilim Conspiracy (w/ Gary Wayne) and The Talent of Steven Furtick May 02, 2017

Joey just got back from a pastors conference where he got to witness the uncanny, unmatched talent of Steven Furtick (Elevation Church). And by the way, do we always need to attach "anointing" to pure, raw talent? For the majority of this episode, Gary Wayne, author of Genesis Six Conspiracy, comes on to talk Nephilim and demonic conspiracy against humanity.

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#274 Mike Herrera of MxPx and MxPx Beer Apr 27, 2017

Mike Herrera of MxPx joins Matt and Toby in studio while Toby is in Seattle for a Matt & Toby show. They talk about sound guys, tour managers, and getting kicked off shows for smoking. Did you know MxPx used to get frustrated on the road with Christian ska band, O.C. Supertones, for preaching so much on stage, MxPx has their own beer, and Mike wasn't confident enough in Pokinatcha (MxPx's first album) to share news of its release with his high school peers? How did that MxPx punk mascot come about and is it true that a Satanist helped with Life in General's album artwork?

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#273 Getting Jesus Wrong and is "the left" the New Legalism? (w/ Matt Johnson) Apr 24, 2017

Our friend Matt Johnson helped write Joey's book, was a part of the Tooth and Nail early days, and was an integral part of Mars Hill in Seattle. He just wrote a book, "Getting Jesus Wrong," that reflects on how far off track the church has gotten from Jesus' teachings. Matt, Toby and Matt Johnson discuss the real power that Facebook gives to chumps, how the left is similar to fundamentalism and Toby actually longs for the apocalypse. And while Joey's away, the three spend some time "Joey bashing."

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#272 Come&Live! (w/ Chad Johnson) vs. BadChristian Apr 17, 2017

Iron sharpens iron? You'll have to be the judge. Chad Johnson, an old time friend of Matt and Toby's and founder of ComeandLive.com and TakeHold Records, joins us with David Pierce, Ben Pierce (Steiger.org), all three bringing a different angle of what it means to be a Christian. Should Toby and Matt be more evangelical at Emery shows? Why did Aaron Gillespie, due to using some choice words, get the boot from speaking at a Steiger event? How vital to the gospel is the message of sanctification? Do we pick and choose what qualifies as sanctification and overlook possibly more important examples? Lastly, Joey admits to a stark example of him being a sexist in the workplace.

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#271 Reese Roper, Five Iron Frenzy Apr 17, 2017

Singer of long-time Christian ska band Five Iron Frenzy, Reece joins us to reflect on the early days of touring and their Kickstarter success, discusses how the ska band Less than Jake acted more Christ-like than most Christian bands, and goes a bit into how the church is warped politically. Toby will start going to church again only if it's a church he started, his family views his podcasting and music career as great jokes and Joey's son thinks theirs a penis in his dad's mouth. And in the Damn News, evangelizing in strip clubs.

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#270 Andy Othling (Lowercase Noises), Sexual Repression and Guitar Pedals Apr 11, 2017

Andy Othling, mastermind behind Lowercase Noises (LowerCaseNoises.com) BC Music's newest artist, discusses his unique musical craft and gives us a peak into his life, inspiration, his successful music career, what his faith (or lack of) in God currently looks like and why people admire his pedalboard more than his music. The fellas also discuss why marriage counseling is effective only when couples want it to be, how culture's approach to sex potentially stunts a woman's ability to be free, and the advantages of having a penis.

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#269 Demon Hunter (Ryan Clark and Jon Dunn) Reminisces and Shares Secrets Apr 10, 2017

Demon Hunter blasted the Metalcore scene in 2002 and in this episode discusses how years before, other bands paved the way for their success. Fox News and MSNBC wanted some answers that we got on this episode about the possibility of Bin Laden getting shot by a soldier who was wearing a Demon Hunter sticker and potentially listening to their music. Lastly, hear how Emery helped pioneer skinny jeans by wearing girl jeans, Joey shares a racially charged story that makes everyone uncomfortable and Matt, inspired by Oral Roberts, is going to start a new college, named Anal Roberts.

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#268 Chad Gardner (Kings Kaleidoscope) and Zach Bolen (Citizens and Saints) Apr 08, 2017

You get some in studio performances from these two brilliant musicians and we talk a bit about “worship music,” how these guys make a living on their music, the infamous “f-word gospel song,” and how both have changed since being worship leaders at Mars Hill Church.

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#267 Dallas Taylor’s (Maylene and the Sons of Disaster, Underoath) Near Death Experience Apr 05, 2017

Four wheeler accident on 8/2/16 broke him up physically but changed his life for the better, Dallas Taylor talks about it all for the first time. Now he loves deeper, appreciates more and is currently persevering through intense pain and physical limitations. In lesser important matters, what’s the deal with blocking people on twitter, Toby struggles with guilt for being negative towards the church and in the Damn News, man shoots a trespassing stranger who was trying to steal a quick, hot shower.
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#266 Male Headship, Respecting Women vs. Sexism, and The Billy Graham Rule Apr 01, 2017

Pastor Tim Kellers’ convictions on male headship cost him recently but he took it like a champ.Matt, Toby and Joey have changed a lot on their perspective of male headship and women pastors, have you? Vice President Mike Pence swears he’ll never dine alone with a woman; (i.e. the Billy Graham Rule) is this respect or sexism? Toby’s dog needs knee surgery and Pastor Joey definitely is against paying money to help animals. Also, we hear how a big time mega church pastor talks about wealth and it’s apparent that he seems to forget just how wealthy he is himself!

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#265 Pushback from Matt’s Favorite Pastor, Mike Wilkerson Mar 30, 2017

The BadChristian trio get some constructive criticism about their podcast from a Pastor that readily admits he can only ingest the podcast in small doses. Toby accepts the challenge to write a hit worship song. He performs three worship songs that were written in a few hours. You make the call; are they hits? Toby wonders why he needs to call transgenders by their new gender and Joey managed to piss off Michael Jackson’s daughter (true story). Sponsors and Links: Blue Apron - http://blueapron.com/BADCHRISTIAN Texture - http://texture.com/BADCHRISTIAN Stamps.com - http://stamps.com/ - promo code "BADCHRISTIAN" Join the BC Club - http://thebcclub.com/ --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/songs-and-stories/support

#264 Pastors, Show Your Tax Records. Mar 25, 2017

Is this out of line? Joey’s a Pastor. Isn’t there a verse about being above reproach? You’ll also hear about Toby’s upcoming hit Worship song, why PC police are out of line for trying to take the word “girl” out of our vocabulary and why Matt thinks Third Eye Blind was ahead of their time.

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#263 John Mark McMillan and Compromises Made in the Music Industry Mar 23, 2017

John Mark McMillan talks his resistance to pigeon-holing himself in the CCM music scene, shares compromises that are useful and needed in this particular market, reflects on some changes in his faith, and walks us through how a worship song writer goes about composing worship songs for Jesus while being okay with maintaining a motivation to make more money. Joey’s suffering from compassion fatigue. What the hell is that? And in the damn news, a boy tries to impress a girl by swimming in alligator-infested waters.

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#262 Lisa Gungor. Ditched by the Church? Mar 19, 2017

Currently writing a book on these experiences, Lisa Gungor (Gungor Music and The Liturgists Podcast) reflects on the rejection and abandonment from supposedly their Christian community after her and her husband were “found out” to have some unorthodox biblical views. What does parenting look like given her major faith changes? How do her parents process their daughter’s newfound freedom? This and more from Lisa Gungor. Toby and Matt take you a bit behind the scenes of what it looks like to still be doing Emery as 40 year-old men and Joey admits to his buddies, having to re-evaluate their friendships. Sponsors and Links: Winc - http://trywinc.com/BADCHRISTIAN Zip Recruiter - http://ziprecruiter.com/FIRST Trackr - http://tracker.com/ - promo code “BADCHRISTIAN” Emery on Tour! - http://emerymusic.com/ Join the BC Club! - http://thebcclub.com/ --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/songs-and-stories/support

#261 Christian Men Porn Pity Partying and the legendary Pigeon John stops in for a Chat Mar 15, 2017

Have you ever heard of porn pity party syndrome? It effects most Christians males after they look at porn and Toby/Joey reflect on this months mess-ups. Matt pleads the 5th. Toby’s edifies us all by sharing things that he hates and Pigeon John takes us to school on his life journey’s of an authentic hip hop creator trying to resist the silly parameters of Christian Contemporary Music Marketing. Sponsors and Links: DSTLD Jeans - http://dstld.com/BADCHRISTIAN Naturebox - http://naturebox.com/BADCHRISTIAN Seat Geek - http://seatgeek.com/ - promo code “BADCHRISTIAN” Emery on Tour - http://emerymusic.com/ Join the BC Club! - http://thebcclub.com/ --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/songs-and-stories/support

#260 Mars Hill Church Speaks with Jenn Smidt Mar 12, 2017

Mark Driscoll isn’t the only one that should be speaking for the once flourishing church community Mars Hill in Seattle, Washington. So let’s start with Jen Smidt, who alongside her husband invested their time, energy, and hearts into former Mars Hill Church, once led by Pastor Mark Driscoll. They actually brought the first Mars Hill baby into the world and maintained significant roles in curriculum writing, counseling, general Mars Hill media and were in high levels of leadership. Jen tells the story of rich community they found and helped establish at Mars Hill, her and her husband’s relationship and interactions with the Driscoll family, and the eventual heartbreak and unhealthy manner of it all ending. Toby, Joey and Matt reflect a bit on how jacked up and hypocritical church structures are, but you don’t want to miss the laughs, tears, and stories told in this episode. Sponsors and Links: Blue Apron - http://blueapron.com/badchristian Zip Recruiter - http://ziprecruiter.com/first Stamps.com - http://stamps.com/ - promo code BADCHRISTIAN Emery on Tour - http://emerymusic.com/ Join the BC Club! - http://thebcclub.com/ --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/songs-and-stories/support

#259 Jason Stellman, Zealous Mega Church Evangelical to Catholic Drunk Ex-Pastor Mar 09, 2017

Jason Stellman (host of Drunk Ex-Pastor Podcast) comes on to talk about the church, his newly found Catholicism, and his book “Misfit Faith: Confessions of a Drunk Ex-Pastor.” Tullian Tchividjian texts Matt during the show and the word “secular” is played out. And in The Damn News, we can't save our own environment, maybe we can help Mars with theirs. Sponsors and Links: Texture - http://texture.com/badchristian Zeel - http://zeel.com - promo code "BADCHRISTIAN" Indochino - http://indochino.com - promo code "BADCHRISTIAN" Emery on Tour - http://emerymusic.com Join the BC Club - http://thebcclub.com --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/songs-and-stories/support

#258 Microdosing LSD with Author Ayelet Waldman Mar 04, 2017

LSD immediately made a positive impact on Ayelet, an author and mother of four. She wrote the book “A Really Good Day: How Microdosing Made a Mega Difference in My Mood, My Marriage, and My Life. Hear her story. Toby appears on one of the leading NPR podcasts and almost gets destroyed by a tornado on the same day. Also, Joey and Toby’s friend passes away from a motorcycle accident. RIP Bronson Rash. Sponsors and Links: Harry's Razors - http://harrys.com - use code "BCPOD" at checkout Legacybox - http://legacybox.com/BADCHRISTIAN Demon Hunter - http://solidstate.merchnow.com/ Emery on Tour - http://emerymusic.com/ Join the BC Club - http://thebcclub.com/ --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/songs-and-stories/support

#257 Matt Now Values Relationships? New Solar System Discovered? Jesus Remains The Same. Mar 02, 2017

Matt is back and from his “mom died vacation” and has some serious gratitude to express. So there’s a new solar system eh? Doesn’t matter if we can never get to it. Or can we? Matt has some numbers and theories that will leave your head shaking. And in the Damn News, white woman claims to identify as a black woman: It’s called “trans-black.”

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#256 Parenthood, Death and Loss with Devin Shelton Feb 25, 2017

Having lost his mother in October, our best friend Devin Shelton adds profound insight to our reflections on last weeks untimely loss of his Matt’s mother. Death really makes you think deeply about life and draws out appreciation for things we normally take for granted. Joey doesn’t know when to stop his stupid jokes and parenting is full of literal shit. And in the Damn News, an old lady literally molds to her chair. And we ask if it is disrespectful, dishonoring or even evil to pay top dollar for the phone that Hitler used to sentence millions of Jews to death?

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#255 Melanie and Seth Studley, Our Friends From Stronger Marriages Feb 22, 2017

Co-hosts of the brand new marriage podcast, Stronger Marriages, Seth and Melanie stop by and drop some bombs of details on how horrific their marriage was early on. Suicidal thoughts, spousal assault, hiding guns?! And they stayed together?! Hear why they stuck it out and get more insight on possibly the most important, “need to be heard" marriage podcasts out there. And on The Damn News, some whiny teen laments about her unfortunate turn of events when she won the lottery. And lastly, but certainly not least, every one pays a little tribute to Jenny Carter, Matt’s mother who passed away a week ago. Sponsors and Links: Trackr - http://thetracker.com/ - promo code BADCHRISTIAN Blue Apron - http://blueapron.com/BADCHRISTIAN DSTLD Jeans - http://dstld.com/BADCHRISTIAN Emery on Tour - http://emerymusic.com Join the BC Club - http://thebcclub.com/ --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/songs-and-stories/support

#254 What Would You Do If Aliens Came and Disproved Everything You Believed? Feb 18, 2017

Joey’s daughter Gwenny stops in for a bit to talk with her dad’s two buddies. Then, Toby and Matt get on their simulation theory kick. But seriously, if an alien disproved everything, would you think he or she was the antichrist? Lastly, in the Damn News, Florida man tries to steal 7 billion dollars. His motivation? Jesus. Yeah, that’s right.

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#253 Jason Romano from ESPN Feb 15, 2017

Jason Romano, ESPN employee of 17 years, explains his transition out of the sports network behemoth to focus on ministry and tells of a hilarious encounter with Snoop Dogg. Joey shares a story he had originally decided to conceal about his depressing Christmas. Matt explains the start-up process of a brand new podcast, Stronger Marriages. And, the fellas discuss how Valentine’s Day plays with them and their wives. You may be surprised.

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#252 As Cities Burn’s Drummer and Internet Troll Aaron Lunsford Feb 11, 2017

Aaron (As Cities Burn) comes on to discuss how he’s become the most unlikeable personality on the internet to date. He, along side the BC crew, discuss political correctness, why “girl” is a bad word, how Joey thought “Chinese” was a bad word and why Aaron doesn’t believe he’d enjoy time with one of our former female guests.

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#251 The Perry Noble Mega-Church Clown Show Feb 08, 2017

Why the hell is Perry Noble preaching again? Why does Steven Furtick get to call the shot on this one? We love Pastor Perry Noble, a Pastor who was recently removed as a result of some struggles including alcohol addiction. These issues were revealed not even a year ago and Pastor Steven Furtick, this past Sunday, had him as a guest preacher at Elevation Church. This makes for a podcast episode full of questions, yelling, frustrations, Toby rants, introspection, cutting up, inappropriate jokes, anger, and sympathy for Perry Noble. In other words what else is new? But seriously, why would people push him back to the very thing that caused his problems?Why does the church need heroes? Is this all a joke? Are we as Christians in mega-church American church culture, a bunch of clowns? Sponsors and Links: Casper - http://casper.com/BCPOD - use promo code BCPOD at checkout Lyft - http://lyft.com/ - use promo code “BADCHRISTIAN” at checkout Indochino - http://indochino.com/ - use promo code “BADCHRISTIAN” at checkout Join the BC Club - http://thebcclub.com/ Emery on Tour - http://emerymusic.com/ Fundamentalist Pastor Book on Kindle - https://www.amazon.com/Fundamentalist-Mentally-Obsessive-Compulsive-Legalistic-ebook/dp/B01N7W8PUP/ --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/songs-and-stories/support

#250 Do we have an obligation to the refugees? Feb 04, 2017

Matt Willingham from the non-profit Preemptive Love joins us live from Iraq! We discuss the refugee immigration crisis, the effect on America and Muslims, and how we can help refugees from war-torn countries. Also, Toby's brother Mike stops by to discuss President Donnie's policies, and as always The Damn News you need.

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#249 Chairman of the Libertarian Party Nicholas Sarwark Feb 01, 2017

We’re joined by the Chairman of the Libertarian Party, Nicholas Sarwark to talk about government responsibility and the current state of our country. Also in today’s episode, we try to get to the bottom of why Matt hasn’t been sick since 2008. It has something to do with not conceding anything to the enemy. We bring back the science segment with pigs growing human organs. And in The Damn News a surgeon falls in love with a woman while performing a colonoscopy on her. Sponsors and Links: DSTLD - http://dstld.com/badchristian Naturebox - http://naturebox.com/badchristian Zip Recruiter - http://ziprecruiter.com/first Join the BC Club - http://thebcclub.com/ Emery on Tour - http://emerymusic.com/ --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/songs-and-stories/support

#248 Barnabas Piper and His Recent Divorce Jan 28, 2017

Author Barnabas Piper navigates and processes the benefits and potential harm of different transparency levels of conversations concerning his recent divorce. Is institutional church wrapping up in a few? Toby and Matt tread lightly due to the depression Joey brings with him and an 11 year old gets all of his classmates high on some specially laced treats.

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#247 Destroying the Patriarchy with Stephanie Drury Jan 25, 2017

We’re joined by Stephanie Drury of Stuff Christian Culture Likes. She’s a southern preacher's kid turned advocate for survivors of spiritual abuse. On this episode, she shares the family tragedy that started her quest to address dysfunction in the church. She also explains the patriarchy and tells about her social media experiment that exposes culturally conditioned misogyny. It looks like we’re all affected, folks! Stephanie seems really harsh and aggressive on Twitter, but MAN is she nice! Hint, hint. This is part of her experiment. We also listen back and comment on Joey's crazy radio interview with a republican, ultra conservative Trump supporting evangelical man that obviously wasn't listening to a damn word Joey said. And in the news, porn and statutes of limitations. Sponsors and Links: MVMT - http://mvmtwatches.com/bcpod Texture - http://texture.com/badchristian Blue Apron - http://blueapron.com/badchristian Emery on Tour! - http://emerymusic.com/ Join the BC Club! - http://thebcclub.com/ --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/songs-and-stories/support

#246 Conservatives, Patriotism, and the Liberal Dan Koch Jan 22, 2017

Why do conservatives seem to have more patriotism and what in the hell does it mean when Christians day “I was ruined after reading that,” “God wrecked me.” Dan Koch, the Seattle liberal puts the southern Bad Christian boys on the hot seat and lastly but certainly not least, your daily dose of the Damn News.

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#245 No Jokes Are Off Limits? (with Propaganda) Jan 18, 2017

In the right context, are all subjects fair game to joke around about? Rape? Molestation? The death of a spouse or child? Propaganda stops by and actually gives Trump a 50% of being a decent President and Toby weeps over his son after a sensitive parental moment involving Ike (his son) breaking his arm.

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#244 Everyone is Doing It. Is Divorce Really All That Bad? Jan 14, 2017

Does the church have a good outlook on divorce? Gracious enough? Resolute enough? Matt also proposes the need for interchurch small groups and shares some helpful information on how to gamble affectively on sporting events. Oh yeah, and those asshole are still talking about the Clemson Tigers.

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#243 Is it Pathetic if Clemson Winning is Best Day of Our Lives? Jan 11, 2017

The guys are on an emotional high after Clemson wins the NCAA Football National Championship. It’s actually pretty unhealthy. I mean, you have to hear the text messages these three sent to one another during the game. Toby proposes going to church seasonally and treats us to another rant towards church pastors. It was long overdue folks.

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#242 Man Spends Million on Cell Phone Game (true story) Jan 07, 2017

It’s the Damn News, people! A man steals millions and spends one million of it on a “free” smart phone game. A would-be groom is paralyzed during his combined bachelor and bachelorette party. We also reveal some sexiest things ladies have said to men. Sponsors and Links: Naturebox - http://naturebox.com/BADCHRISTIAN Zip Recruiter - http://ziprecruiter.com/FIRST Tooth & Nail - Civilian - http://bandsintown.com/Civilian Join the BC Club - http://thebcclub.com/ --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/songs-and-stories/support

#241 Best of 2016 Jan 05, 2017

It’s the most wonderful time of the year! No, not Christmas. It’s our annual re-cap of some of our favorite moments from the Bad Christian podcast in 2016. Enjoy! Sponsors and Links: Harry’s Razors - http://harrys.com/ - use code “BCPOD” at checkout Texture - http://texture.com/BADCHRISTIAN Casper - http://casper.com/BCPOD and use promo code “BCPOD” at checkout Join the BC Club! - http://thebcclub.com/ --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/songs-and-stories/support

#240 Demon Attacks Matt, God Tells Joey Super Bowl WInner Dec 28, 2016

Toby's kids are already complaining about gifts they got for Christmas. Matt and Joey share about some spiritual experiences they have had. In the process, Toby is reminded of his vision of an angel with a battle axe! And in the news, RC Sproul Jr. (yes JUNIOR) gets a DUI and resigns. Also, 2016 is so terrible that it's killed Prince, Bowie, George Michael and Carrie Fisher, and even a stewardess who survived a 30,000-foot plane crash in the 70's. Happy New Year, everybody! Sponsors and Links: Seeso - http://seeso.com/ - promo code "BADCHRISTIAN" Blue Apron - http://blueapron.com/badchristian Tooth & Nail - http://solidstate.merchnow.com/ Join the BC Club! - http://thebcclub.com/ BC Supply - http://bc.supply Emery Acoustic - http://emeryacoustic.com/ --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/songs-and-stories/support

#239 Women are Crock Pots, Men are Microwaves! Dec 21, 2016

We dig in with Katie and Candice from the Free Sex Podcast about sex and marriage and it gets heated! How much sex is enough? What should men be doing? What should women be doing? Do statistics matter or are they harmful? Sponsors and Links: Lyft - http://lyft.com/ - promo code “BADCHRISTIAN" Solid State - http://solidstate.merchnow.com/ Free Sex Podcast - http://freesexpod.com/ Fundamentalist Book - http://fundamentalistpastor.com/ Join The BC Club! - http://thebcclub.com/ --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/songs-and-stories/support

#238 Live from the BC Christmas Party! Dec 17, 2016

Join us live from the Bad Christian Christmas Party as Matt, Toby and Joey look back on the beginnings of everything. Also, a quick news story from Toby about creepy ass glitches in The Matrix. Sponsors and Links: Hint Water - http://drinkhint.com/badchristian Soothe - http://soothedot.com/ - promo code “BADCHRISTIAN” Shari’s Berries - http://berries.com/ - click on the mic (top right corner) and use promo code “BADCHRISTIAN” Join the BC Club! http://thebcclub.com/ --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/songs-and-stories/support

#237 A Bad Christmas Party Dec 14, 2016

Matt, Toby and Joey are all in studio at Bad Christian World Headquarters in Seattle, Washington for the Bad Christmas virtual Christmas party. Tales will be told, songs will be sung. Merry Christmas from all of us to all of you! Sponsors and Links: Blue Apron - http://blueapron.com/badchristian Shari’s Berries - http://berries.com/ - click on the mic (top right corner) and use promo code “BADCHRISTIAN” Global Christmas Party & Live Album - http://badchristianmedia.com/global-christmas Join the BC Club! - http://thebcclub.com/ --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/songs-and-stories/support

#236 The Damn News - Tallywackers, Toot Toots and Nut Busters Dec 10, 2016

This week in The Damn News...a kidney stone apocalypse, fake Facebook account almost lands guy in jail and we also discover that literally anybody can be president...or can they! Also, a whole lot of names for cocks! Sponsors and Links: Zip Recruiter - http://ziprecruiter.com/first to post jobs FREE MVMT Watches - http://mvmt.com/bcpod for 15% off Zebit - http://zebit.com/bc for ZERO fees, ZERO interest, ZERO credit checks Shari's Berries - http://berries.com/ - Click on the microphone and use code "badchristian" Visit www.facebook.com/badchristians to enter for a FREE $50 gift code to Shari's Berries! Join the BC Club! - http://thebcclub.com/ --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/songs-and-stories/support

#235 Jake Luhrs and Joey's Embarrassing New Book Dec 07, 2016

Joey’s book, Fundamentalist: Stories of a Mentally Ill, Obsessive Compulsive, Legalistic Youth Group Kid Turned Pastor, came out today so we bring Jake Luhrs (August Burns Red) founder of Heart Support, to discuss mental illness, transparency, forgiveness and Jesus.

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#234 The Damn News - The Future Will Be Simulated! Dec 03, 2016

Is this all just a computer simulation? Are we all just in God’s mind? Is all reality just something Toby created? Is Movember just a pissing contest between bros? Also, we talk about a Thanksgiving feast that kills. So many questions. Lucky for you we will answer them with The Truth™! Sponsors and Links: Harry’s - http://harrys.com/ - promo code “BCPOD” for $5 off Casper - http://casper.com/BCPOD - and use promo code “BCPOD” at checkout for 15% off order MVMT - http://mvmtwatches.com/BCPOD - 15% off your order Join the BC Club! - http://thebcclub.com/ BC Supply - http://bc.supply --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/songs-and-stories/support

#233 Jeremy Hiebert of Comeback Kid Nov 30, 2016

We’re joined by Comeback Kid guitarist Jeremy Hiebert. We get into Jeremy’s mennonite upbringing, how he discovered heavy music, Figure Four and the roots of Comeback Kid, and where he is at with his faith today. Also on the program, we talk about cynicism versus skepticism. Sponsors and Links: Harry’s - http://harrys.com/ - promo code “BCPOD” Lyft - http://lyft.com/ - promo code “BADCHRISTIAN" Zip Recruiter - http://ziprecruiter.com/first Join the BC Club! - http://thebcclub.com/ BC Supply - http://bc.supply --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/songs-and-stories/support

#232 The Damn News - Standing Against Racism or Erasing Needed History Nov 27, 2016

Matt, Toby and Joey’s alma mater Winthrop University makes the Damn News. Students there protested the name of Winthrop’s main building Tillman, as it was named after a racist that supported lynch mobs. Is this type of “erasing history” disadvantageous? Does it encourage people to forget the real atrocities that happened to minorities in America? Mistreatment and humiliation of a nursing mother or not? Catch your spouse cheating? Film the cheating and post online. This guy did. The Damn News folks! Sponsors and Links: Framebridge - http://framebridge.com (promo code BCPOD to save 15%) Zebit - http://zebit.com/bc (zero interest, zero fees, zero credit checks) Wolves At The Gate - solidstate.merchnow.com Join the BC Club! - thebcclub.com/ --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/songs-and-stories/support

#231 Thanksgiving, Stay at Home Moms + Vocal Few LIVE Nov 23, 2016

Vocal Few (Kristie and Matt MacDonald) play a song from their new Christmas EP. Kristie fields some questions about riding on the coat tails of her husbands success, being a stay at home mom and living month to month not really knowing how much the paycheck is going to be. And it’s working! The fellas talk about their Thanksgiving plans and Toby’s daughter is already a schemer, concocting a plan to get people’s pity and money

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#230 Devin Shelton Quits the Church Nov 17, 2016

Emery's Devin Shelton joins the crew for an update on his new solo album, career plans, and an awesome announcement about a new clothing line called BC Supply! Then in The Damn News we talk about PC culture and take the Myers Briggs personality test together.

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#229 The Damn News Nov 12, 2016

This week on The Damn News…tax exemptions for Churches, sexless marriages, virtual reality, sex with robots…and mops…and watermelons. Also, are you p-phubbing too much? Sponsors and Links: Zebit - http://zebit.com/BC - zero interest, zero fees, zero credit checks Join the BC Club! - http://thebcclub.com/ --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/songs-and-stories/support

#228 Election Day Nov 10, 2016

We’re joined by Toby’s brother Mike, Tyson Motsenbocker, Scott Mellinger (Zao), Seth & Melanie Studley (Stronger Marriages) and Mark Salomon (Never Was, Stavesacre) on this special Election Day show! Sponsors and Links: Lyft - http://lyft.com/ - 3 free rides up to $10 each using promo code “BADCHRISTIAN” Zip Recruiter - http://ziprecruiter.com/first - post jobs for free Wolves At The Gate - http://solidstate.merchnow.com/ Join the BC Club! - http://thebcclub.com/ --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/songs-and-stories/support

#227 I've Been Pretending To Be A Christian My Whole Life Nov 02, 2016

Matt’s babysitter and friend Kayla has been in church her whole life but no longer considers herself a Christian. We talk about being adopted, her conservative upbringing and times at Hillsong college. We also talk about acting a fool when there’s open bar. We discover why Toby was crying cow tears while cutting the grass. And we're pretty sure if anybody from our show stops being a Christian, it will be pastor Joey. And in the news, farts and lasers prove to be a deadly combination. Sponsors and Links: Harry’s Razors - http://harrys.com/ - Enter code BCPOD at checkout DSTLD - http://dstld.com/badchristian Hint Water - http://drinkhint.com/badchristian Join the BC Club! - http://thebcclub.com/ --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/songs-and-stories/support

#226 BC Club Bonus Hour Oct 29, 2016

Toby talks about the creative freedom and mental energy he now has in his post church career. Joey rambles on about something or another and the guys wonder why it feels so good for fluids to leave your body.

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#225 Derek Minor and Southern Racist Families Oct 26, 2016

We're joined this week by hip-hop artist Derek Minor. We chat about different facets of systematic racism and bias as well as dealing with haters. Toby sings for us a highly inappropriate lullaby. Joey's grandma is dealing with new feelings in her 90's. And in the news, the real roots of the drug war. Sponsors and Links: Blue Apron - http://blueapron.com/badchristian Seeso - http://seeso.com/ - promo code “BADCHRISTIAN” Civilian - http://civiliansounds.com/ Tooth & Nail YouTube Channel - http://youtube.com/toothandnail Join the BC Club! - http://thebcclub.com/ --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/songs-and-stories/support

#224 The Beer Can Professor, Paul Roof Oct 19, 2016

We're joined by "the beer can professor", Paul Roof, who was fired from his job at Charleston Southern University for one of the dumbest reasons ever. And forget about open caskets, Toby plans on appearing at his funeral in a chair, drinking a beer! In the news, a hero saves his dog from a fire...or does he?! Also, a very special appearance from Matt’s Dad, Buddy Carter! Sponsors and Links: MVMT - http://mvmtwatches.com/bcpod Zip Recruiter - http://ziprecruiter.com/first Join the BC Club! - http://thebcclub.com/ --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/songs-and-stories/support

#223 Daddy Issues Oct 12, 2016

Toby is upset about his fathers inability to show love. Matt is dealing with demotion issues related to second child fatherhood and situations where he has no control. Joey is giving Devin strange advice in the wake of the loss of his mother while trying not to run over dogs. We’ve got issues! And in the news, jilted Moms sending nudes to sons, scientists teleporting photons and disturbing vibrator mishaps. Sponsors and Links: Blue Apron - http://blueapron.com/badchristian DSTLD - http://dstld.com/badchristian Civilian on Tooth & Nail - http://www.toothandnail.com/artists/346/Civilian/ Join the BC Club! - http://thebcclub.com/ --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/songs-and-stories/support

BONUS EPISODE: Presidential Debate Companion Oct 10, 2016

The extended BadChristian family comes together for a bonus episode to get their reactions of this year's second presidential debate. Post-debate commentary is brought to you by Matt MacDonald and Nate Henry of Don't Feed The Trolls, Toby Morrell of Unstoppable Badass, and Dan Koch of the new podcast Depolarize!

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#222 Andy Stanley makes The Wolf List Oct 05, 2016

A hurricane is headed for Charleston, but Joey is just calmly broadcasting from bed with his big gulp and funyons. Toby is disappointed that our show did not make “The Wolf List.” Mega church pastor Andy Stanley is willing to let go of inerrancy to reach millennials which got us thinking about what we’ve let go of on our faith journeys. And in the news...bald is sexy and Denzel Washington strangles Aretha Franklin. Sponsors and Links: Casper - http://casper.com/ - promo code “BCPOD" Harry’s - http://harrys.com/bcpod - promo code “BCPOD” Join the BC Club! - http://thebcclub.com/ --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/songs-and-stories/support

#221 Why Men Hate Going to Church with author David Murrow Sep 28, 2016

We’re joined by David Murrow, author of the book “Why Men Hate Going To Church” and we have a great discussion challenging the modern validity of the “sermon and singing” Church format, what we can learn from peeing in buckets and other topics. Also, a chat with BC Clubber and new BC Music artist Andy Othling of Lowercase Noises. And in the news, babies with DNA from 3 people! Sponsors and Links: Fit For A King - http://fitforakingband.com/ Church for Men - http://churchformen.com/ Join the BC Club! - http://thebcclub.com/ Lowercase Noises Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/lowercasenoises/ Break It Down - http://www.breakitdownpodcast.net/ Fundamentalist Book - http://fundamentalistpastor.com/ Unstoppable Badass - https://soundcloud.com/theunstoppablebadass --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/songs-and-stories/support

#220 Sex, Longevity and Faith with Science Mike McHargue Sep 21, 2016

We’re joined by Science Mike McHarge to talk sex, longevity, time travel, atheism and more. We also chat a bit about his new book “Finding God in the Waves: How I Lost My Faith and Found It Again Through Science.” Also, Matt gets ready for the arrival of his 2nd child by enjoying 45 minute toilet time at Home Depot. Toby is doing Yoga and saying no to “quickies.” And Joey just sounds terrible. Maybe he should stop eating stuff off the ground! And in the news we shatter the “5 second rule” and Toby reveals his crush on Brad Pitt.
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#219 Aaron Gillespie talks Divorce and Underoath Sep 15, 2016

Our old pal Aaron Gillespie (Underoath, The Almost, Paramore) returns to talk about his divorce, where he is at in regard to "Christian music," the future of Underoath and more! Also, Matt shares with us some graphic design troubles he's been having. Toby made the mistake of trying to talk politics with his father. Joey ponders the benefits of intervening in a football game fan dispute. And in the news, tip shaming and insensitive Wal-Mart murder aftermath Facebook videos. Sponsors and Links:
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#218 Nobody Understands Our Art plus Jarrid Wilson Sep 07, 2016

Joey's relatives don't understand why Matt is slandering him in e-mails. Matt's family thinks he's blaming them for the deaths of relatives. People are questioning Toby's sexuality because of his funny videos. Nobody understands our art! We're also joined by Jarrid Wilson who talks about a ton of stuff including a new book he's writing called "Love is Oxygen", leaving the Church and his non-profit Anthem of Hope. Also a visit from BC Club member John Richards. Sponsors and Links: Blue Apron - http://blueapron.com/badchristian Harry's - http://harrys.com/ - promo code "BCPOD" Jarrid Wilson - http://jarridwilson.com/ Anthem of Hope - http://anthemofhope.org/ Fundamentalist Book Pre-Order - http://fundamentalistpastor.com/ Emery Acoustic - http://emeryacoustic.com/ Join the BC Club! - http://thebcclub.com/ --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/songs-and-stories/support

#217 Genetically Modified Metabolisms and Creepy Clowns Aug 31, 2016

Matt's last living grandparent has passed away and he's making plans now that he's in charge of the family. Joey has a plan to jump out of an airplane with a faulty parachute. Toby visits a Church that's fully inclusive and he finds it surprisingly beautiful. We get back to more talk about all the CRISPR possibilities in this weeks science segment. And in the news, creepy clowns and plastic people. Finally, a visit from long time BC clubber and online stalker Twitch Collins. Sponsors and Links: Ring - http://ring.com/badchristian Indochino - http://indochino.com/ - use code "BADCHRISTIAN" at checkout Norma Jean Pre-Order - http://solidstate.merchnow.com/ and http://normajean.merchdirect.com/ Join the BC Club! - http://thebcclub.com/ The Unstoppable Badass - https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-unstoppable-badass/id1144980898 Fundamentalist Book Pre-Order - http://badchristianmedia.com/fundamentalist-preorder --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/songs-and-stories/support

#216 Church is for Women + Preston Sprinkle Aug 24, 2016

Toby observes that church seems to be engineered towards women as consumers, but he wishes they were the leaders. Matt gives the full scoop on how CRISPR works to do genetic editing. Plus an update on Toby's rash.

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#215 Antinomian Shell Games - Live! Aug 17, 2016

Toby is covered in a full body rash. Matt fell off a stool at the last Emery acoustic show and feels bad for Joey after reading his book. The reformed crowd is questioning our salvation in a dangerous antinomian shell game. A listener sends Joey a pizza, but how did he get the address?! In science, we learn about CRISPR. And in the news, a tale of 2 obituaries plus a guy in Oklahoma gets in trouble for hanging nooses in his yard. Finally, we learn that Joey is "costume tolerant." Sponsors and Links: Blue Apron - http://blueapron.com/badchristian Citizens & Saints - http://gospelsong.merchnow.com/ Emery Acoustic - http://emeryacoustic.com/ Join the BC Club! - http://thebcclub.com/ --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/songs-and-stories/support

#214 Church Shopping Vs Car Shopping Aug 10, 2016

Joey gets himself in trouble for being a key fob cheapskate. Toby finds himself back in Church despite his vow to “take a break” and he can’t believe how walking into the parking lot is just like buying a car. Matt predicts a major resurgence in horse drawn carriages. Also, a 10 year old e-mail regarding kicking Joel out of Emery. And in the news…vinyl records are making a huge comeback and a Swedish cop does takedown in a bikini. Plus, strategies for confronting homeless thieves! Sponsors and Links: Ring - http://ring.com/badchristian Aaron Gillespie “Out Of The Badlands" - http://toothandnailrecords.merchnow.com/ Join the BC Club! - http://thebcclub.com Emery Acoustic - http://emeryacoustic.com --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/songs-and-stories/support

#213 Matt Hoopes and Matt Thiessen of Relient K - Live! Aug 03, 2016

We're joined live this week by Matt Hoopes and Matt Thiessen of Relient K. We re-live some old tour stories and find out about the current status of the band and more. Also, Matt got some new shoes, Toby inherited an old grill from Bunda and Joey is missing as he celebrates his anniversary. And in the news, it's brain eating Amoebas! Sponsors and Links: Help Dave's Powell's Family and daughter Eisley! - http://mealbaby.com/viewregistry/21935725 Blue Apron - http://blueapron.com/badchristian Harry's - http://harrys.com/ - Promo Code "BCPOD" Emery Acoustic - http://emeryacoustic.com/ Join the BC Club! - http://thebcclub.com/ --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/songs-and-stories/support

#212 Trey Pearson of Everyday Sunday - Live! Jul 27, 2016

We’re joined live this week by Trey Pearson of Everyday Sunday who recently caused waves by coming out of the closet. We talk about the ramifications to his personal life, marriage and music career. Also, Matt shares an embarrassing story about an unfortunate incident that happened to him at a recent Sherwood show in Seattle. And in the news...terrorism, discord at the DNC and cosplay careers.

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#211 Ben Sledge of Heart Support Jul 23, 2016

Our guest is veteran, Purple Heart and Bronze Star recipient and Heart Support Director of Operations, Ben Sledge. We talk about his experiences in the military, including what questions to not ask vets and the best response of the Church. Also, Toby is mean to Joey about his depression but it’s the right thing, Joey binges on cantelope and we get more BBQ science from Matt. In the news, Pokemon GO leads to robberies, soliders fighting ISIS and dead bodies! Sponsors and Links: Join the BC Club! - http://badchristian.com/contribute Emery Acoustic - http://emeryacoustic.com/ --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/songs-and-stories/support

#210 Blue Laws, Satanic Yoga and Keto Cancer Cures - Live! Jul 20, 2016

We’re back with another Facebook live broadcast! Toby is the only guy in his yoga class and it’s making him uncomfortable. Matt tells a story involving horrible tasting cocktails. Joey attempts to list all 10 commandments. We have a post-Audiofeed update from Taylor on the BC Club and another unfortunate visit from Toby’s brother Mike. And in the news, Keto cancer cures and cheating spouses with bad cover stories.

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#209 Jesse Smith Jul 16, 2016

Our guest this week is Jesse Smith (Zao, Jesse Smith & The Holy Ghost). We let Joey do this one all on his own and we think he killed it. Also, this episode marks Toby and Joey’s last time together in Charleston recording together. And in the news, we all take bets on how many wieners we can eat.

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#208 Black Lives Matter & Perry Noble Got Fired - Live! Jul 13, 2016

Check out our Facebook live streamed episode from July 13th where we talk about #blacklivesmatter, the firing of pastor Perry Noble and more! Matt gives you the permission to not join the club and Toby introduces us to the concept of term limits for pastors. And in the news - busty mermaids! Sponsor and Links: Blue Apron - http://blueapron.com/badchristian Solid State Records - http://solidstate.merchnow.com/ Emery Acoustic - http://emeryacoustic.com/ Join The BC Club! - http://badchristian.com/contribute --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/songs-and-stories/support

#207 Don’t Feed The Trolls Sherwood Album Preview! Jul 09, 2016

Today we have a special preview of the new Sherwood album "Some Things Never Leave You" from the Don’t Feed The Trolls podcast with Nate Henry (Sherwood) and Matt MacDonald (Classic Crime)! They sample the tunes, discuss song meanings and talk about all the trolls that had to be starved to make the record. Also, a special science episode on BBQ and heat!

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#206 BCPOD Live at Audiofeed Festival 2016 Jul 06, 2016

Enjoy this live performance as a BC Clubber introduces the podcast that Matt, Toby and Joey perform live in front of hundreds of Christian festival goers in between Emery sets. Joey fails to honor the crowd and control his language, and Matt suggests that Christianity need to police their own in the same way that we would hope Islam would.

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#205 Chad Gardner of Kings Kaleidoscope Jul 02, 2016

Matt gets together with Chad Gardner of Kings Kaleidoscope. They debut 3 tracks from the new record “Beyond Control”, “In This Ocean Pt I & II” and a live performance of “Lost?” by Chad. They discuss the concept behind the album, what they did different this time around and more! Sponsors and Links: Harry’s - http://harrys.com/ - PROMO CODE “BCPOD” House Of Heroes - http://thehouseofheroes.com/ Emery Acoustic - http://emeryacoustic.com/ Join the BC Club! - http://badchristian.com/contribute --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/songs-and-stories/support

#204 Chris Simpson of Mineral Jun 29, 2016

Our guest is Chris Simpson from the bands Mineral, The Gloria Record, Pop Unknown and more recently, Zookeeper. We are honored to have Chris on the show and we explore later the idea of influence and if music can really save your life. Also, Joey can’t stop playing with his toes. Toby doesn’t understand why his body is growing hair without his consent. He also realizes it is too “emotionally expensive” for him to have empathy for everybody. And in the news, a dog eats gorilla glue. Sponsors and Links: SeatGeek - https://seatgeek.com/ - Promo Code “BADCHRISTIAN” Solid State Records - http://www.solidstaterecords.com/ Emery Acoustic - http://www.emerymusic.com/ Join the BC Club! - http://badchristianmedia.com/contribute --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/songs-and-stories/support

#203 The Second Coming of Lebron James Jun 25, 2016

Matt kicks things off with the NBA and Old Testament law. Toby has an incident involving fish and chips. We introduce you to an awesome new diet called "The How You Feel 40 Minutes After You Eat Diet.” Matt also has some reflections on his recent appearance on Moody Radio’s “Up For Debate” show. And in The Damn News, a man exposes himself to customers at Waffle House and we learn that Joey would pay at least $1,000 for a lock of Jesus hair. Sponsors and Links: Ring - http://ring.com/badchristian Weebly - http://weebly.com/badchristian Emery Acoustic - http://emeryacoustic.com/ AudioFeed - http://badchristianday.com/ Join the BC Club! - http://badchristian.com/contribute --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/songs-and-stories/support

#202 Reba Riley, Author Jun 22, 2016

We are joined Reba Riley, author of the book “Post-Traumatic Church Syndrome.” Also, Toby confesses his cell phone addiction, Matt argues that everybody falls into 3 categories of “sheep, sleazy or scared” and Joey gets some bad news via text message. We also introduce the latest marginalized group…mutants! Sponsors and Links: SpareMin - http://sparemin.com/ SeatGeek - http://seatgeek.com/ AudioFeed - http://badchristianday.com/ Emery Acoustic - http://emeryacoustic.com/ Join the BC Club! - http://badchristian.com/contribute/ --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/songs-and-stories/support

#201 Ich nein defelder kunst, Bad Christian! Jun 18, 2016

While we continue our celebration of McDonald’s appreciation month, Toby has some huge news that is not the damn news! Matt actually had a good time on his Disneyland vacation and might have experienced love for the first time. Is there any truth to the rumor that Joey has started his own cult and is referring to himself as "The Prophet Joseph Svendson?! The truth is, dare we say, life changing! We also get an update from Taylor on the BC Club! Sponsors and Links: SeatGeek - http://seatgeek.com/ Weebly - http://weebly.com/badchristian Join The BC Club - http://badchristian.com/contribute Emery Acoustic - http://emeryacoustic.com/ --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/songs-and-stories/support

#200 Keith Repult Jun 15, 2016

Our guest is Keith Repult who has a crazy and amazing testimony of how he went from a pornography kingpin to becoming the owner of a yogurt shop. His journey from loss and addiction to redemption is an incredible story that you have to hear! Also, Toby’s favorite wedding ever and in the news...babies with pubic hair who can kick your ass. Sponsors and Links: Blue Apron - http://blueapron.com/badchristian AudioFeed - http://badchristianday.com/ Emery Acoustic - http://emeryacoustic.com/ --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/songs-and-stories/support

#199 Life Is Hard And Then You Die Jun 11, 2016

In this episode we explore the dangers of dubious awards for kids honoring concepts like kindness and how the idea of “legacy” sets us all up for unnecessary feelings of failure. We finally get to the bottom of just how long Joey’s "really long sermon" was. And in the news, look out, it’s KILLER BEES! Sponsors and Links: NatureBox - http://naturebox.com/badchristian SeatGeek - http://seatgeek.com/ - PROMO CODE “BADCHRISTIAN” AudioFeed Festival - http://badchristianday.com/ Emery Acoustic - http://emeryacoustic.com/ --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/songs-and-stories/support

#198 Brad & Drew Harper Jun 08, 2016

We’re joined today by Brad & Drew Harper who have co-authored a book that explores whether they can overcome their differences in belief titled, “Space at the Table: Conversations Between an Evangelical Theologian and His Gay Son.” We also have an unfortunate visit from Toby’s brother Mike. Sponsors and Links: SpareMin - http://sparemin.com/ Texture - http://texture.com/badchristian Space at the Table by Brad & Drew Harper - http://amzn.com/0997066903 Emery Acoustic - http://emeryacoustic.com/ --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/songs-and-stories/support

#197 Edumacation and Food Morals Jun 04, 2016

In this jam packed episode, Matt doubts the science behind resurrections and questions food morals. Joey doesn’t think people poop in heaven. Toby isn’t sure about anonymous giving or the specialness of birthdays. Matt also kicks off McDonalds Appreciation Month and introduces us to the charming expression “vagina smasher.” And in the damn news...have you ever wanted to get high and lift weights? All your dreams may be coming true! Sponsors and Links: Silent Planet - http://solidstate.merchnow.com/ Weebly - http://weebly.com/badchristian AudioFeed - http://badchristianday.com/ Emery Acoustic - http://emeryacoustic.com/ --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/songs-and-stories/support

#196 Pastor Greg Locke Jun 01, 2016

We talk to Greg about his becoming a YouTube phenomenon, the transgender bathroom debate and his unique communication style. Despite his likability, we challenge his approach in calling unbelievers out for their sin, his belief in the need for America to be Christianized and his brashness at the risk of sounding unloving. Toby also may finally be on board with Joey’s belief that lying can often be a good thing. Sponsor and Links: Casper - http://casper.com/bcpod - use promo code “BCPOD” at checkout Harry’s - http://harrys.com/ - use promo code “BCPOD” at checkout Emery Acoustic - http://emeryacoustic.com/ AudioFeed - http://badchristianday.com/ --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/songs-and-stories/support

#195 Dan and Nate from Sherwood May 28, 2016

We talk about holy roller internet trolls and Toby’s befuddlement with Christians praying with their arms extended. Also, is there such thing as a stupid prayer request? What about praying for the dead and the ridiculous “unspoken request?” More importantly, we catch up with Dan and Nate from Sherwood to discuss their new record and tour as well as debut a new track from the album. Sponsors and Links: Sherwood Pre-Order and Tour - http://sherwoodmusic.net/ SpareMin - http://sparemin.com/ Solid State Records - http://merchnow.com/catalogs/solid-state Weebly - http://weebly.com/badchristian AudioFeed Festival - http://badchristianday.com/ --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/songs-and-stories/support

#194 CookBook from L.A. Symphony May 25, 2016

Jason Soto (Cookbook) of the critically acclaimed hip-hop outfit, L.A. Symphony joins the podcast to talk hip-hop, the deconstruction of his former evangelical faith, the ensuing treatment he received from the church, his conviction of authenticity and where he’s at now in his music career. Joey also saw a cat trying to commit suicide and another pastor makes an unnecessary awkward joke to find common ground. Check out Cookbook’s music and hire him to be a coach. Find him @CookBookthePR. Sponsors and Links: Blue Apron - http://blueapron.com/badchristian SpareMin - http://sparemin.com/ - @BadChristian for BC Bonus Question segment AudioFeed Festival - http://badchristianday.com/ Classic Crime Kickstarter - http://kck.st/23WCzLB Sherwood Pre-Order - http://sherwoodmusic.net/ House Of Heroes Pre-Order - http://thehouseofheroes.com/ Zach Bolen Pre-Order - http://www.zachbolen.com/ Emery Acoustic - http://emeryacoustic.com/ --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/songs-and-stories/support

#193 Jay Newman of AudioFeed Festival May 21, 2016

Jay Newman from AudioFeed Festival joins us to chat about the upcoming festivities this summer (June 30-July 3 2016) and the vision of this newer faith and music festival. Jay talks about the origins of the fest and what he thinks makes it special (Hint - running water and air conditioning!). Matt and Toby also promise to play The Question from “front to back” with Devin! Get your asses to BadChristian day on July 3^rd! Also, in the news, is that an angel or a porn doll? These are confusing times! Sponsors and Links: ScoreBig - http://scorebig.com/ - Promo Code: BADCHRISTIAN TrackR - http://thetracker.com/ - Promo Code: BADCHRISTIAN AudioFeed Festival - http://badchristianday.com/ Sherwood Pre-Order - http://sherwoodmusic.net/ Emery Acoustic - http://emeryacoustic.com/ --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/songs-and-stories/support

#192 Friendly Atheist, Hemant Mehta May 18, 2016

We talk divorce, abortion, open marriages, and Christianity with this blogger and podcaster. Is atheism a cause? How did he become “The Friendly Atheist?” Are there any similarities between making money off atheism and making it from ministry? What are the dangers of religion? Sponsors and Links: NatureBox - http://naturebox.com/badchristian Texture - http://texture.com/badchristian AudioFeed Festival - http://badchristianday.com/ Sherwood Pre-Order - http://sherwoodmusic.net/ Emery Music - http://emeryacoustic.com/ --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/songs-and-stories/support

#191 It May Be a Sin Not to Cuss May 14, 2016

Is it wrong to alter one's natural flow of artistic creation in an attempt to not ruffle feathers? We talk about Emery’s early church touring days and how, according to Toby, the Holy Spirit put a quick halt to playing any more church venues. We talk about Aaron Gillespie using certain words on our podcast and how it cost him some concert dates. He lost money but did he do the right thing? We have some audio troubles and also, Matt runs out of time and has to leave. Sponsors and Links: Weebly - http://weebly.com/badchristian Silent Planet “Panic Room” - http://solidstate.merchnow.com/ Sherwood Pre-Order - http://sherwoodmusic.net/ Audiofeed Festival - http://badchristianday.com/ Emery Acoustic - http://emeryacoustic.com/ --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/songs-and-stories/support

#190 Senior Citizen Party Bus May 11, 2016

Matt and Toby are fresh off their Emery acoustic show in Seattle and Joey is feeling and sounding like a new man back from sabbatical. The three discuss the pointlessness of thank you cards, what gender of massage therapist Joey prefers, a new way of looking at “human resources” and another mega-church pastor biting the dust. Also, they agree that if they live to be 90 or older they will spend their final days partying it up and not worrying about what medications might damage their livers. Sponsors and Links: Blue Apron - http://blueapron.com/badchristian Audiofeed Festival - http://badchristianday.com/ Emery Acoustic - http://emeryacoustic.com/ --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/songs-and-stories/support

#189 Peter Enns - Biblical Scholar, Theologian and Author May 07, 2016

We hang out with a listener favorite, author and speaker Peter Enns. He’s written popular books such as "The Bible Tells Me So”, "The Evolution of Adam” and his most recent "The Sin of Certainty.” We talk to him about the future of the church, origins of humanity, whether Adam and Eve were real, the changing meaning of “evangelical" and how people should approach their bible reading. Sponsors and Links: ScoreBig - https://www.scorebig.com/ - Use promo code “BADCHRISTIAN” for $20 off your first ticket purchase. TrackR - https://www.thetracker.com/ - Use promo code “BADCHRISTIAN” for 30% off your entire order. AudioFeed Festival - http://badchristianday.com/ Peter Enns - http://peteenns.com/ Emery Acoustic - http://emeryacoustic.com/ --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/songs-and-stories/support

#188 Edibles & Pastor Lounges plus a BC Club update with Taylor May 04, 2016

Matt’s biggest side effect from pot edibles was normal every day anxiety. Joey’s having a hard time being himself while trying to record masturbation podcasts at the retreat center pastor’s lounge. And Toby’s fill in role as campus pastor is finally taking a toll in the form of dark clouds and horrible diarrhea. Also, we’ll be joined by Taylor for an update on the BC club! Sponsors and Links: Weebly - http://weebly.com/badchristian Harry’s Razors - http://harrys.com/ - USE PROMO CODE “BCPOD” Audiofeed Festival - http://badchristianday.com/ Emery Acoustic - http://www.emerymusic.com/ House of Heroes Pre-Order - http://thehouseofheroes.com/ --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/songs-and-stories/support

#187 Babies Aren’t Miracles Apr 30, 2016

Toby got a speeding ticket, Joey is mesmerized by worship leaders' dance moves at big conferences and Matt has a baby announcement. The three reflect on Matt’s unique emotional response to his miscarriage a year ago and the grand finale? Matt sets out to prove that the “miracle of life” is a myth. Also, we discover that Toby would like to be stranded on a deserted island. And a lot of talk about the feelings and thoughts of carrots.

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#186 Hungover in the Matrix with Guest Host Matt MacDonald Apr 27, 2016

While Toby’s away, Matt and Joey play with guest host Matt MacDonald (Classic Crime) who’s still riding high from his 3.5 hour, $30k new album crowd fund! Also celebrity death over-sharing, pet shops and prostitutes, Facebook algorithm’s, nostalgia and a science segment on Simulation Hypothesis. This show is as real as it gets, or is it? Sponsors and Links: Blue Apron - http://blueapron.com/badchristian Texture - http://texture.com/badchristian Audiofeed Festival - http://badchristianday.com/ Emery Acoustic - http://emeryacoustic.com/register --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/songs-and-stories/support

#185 Live with Matt & Toby! Apr 23, 2016

Joey’s still on sabbatical, so Matt and Toby broadcasted the show LIVE and took some questions from the audience and this is the result! Sponsors and Links: TrackR - http://thetracker.com/ USE PROMO CODE “BADCHRISTIAN”. Emery Live - http://emerylive.com/register/ House Of Heroes - http://thehouseofheroes.com/ Audiofeed Festival - http://badchristianday.com/ --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/songs-and-stories/support

#184 Tim from House Of Heroes Apr 20, 2016

Tim, the singer of the newest addition to the BC Music roster, House of Heroes, drops by to chat with Matt and Toby about their new album, Colors, and talk about what it is like to be labeled a "Christian" band. Also in the show, if cussing isn’t a sin, do we want our kids cussing in K-5? Matt, Toby and Joey discuss their different approaches in parenting when it comes to the “bad words.” Joey also does month of pre-marital counseling with a couple, does their wedding and gets zero. Stiffed. Matt wants a ticket for peeing in public and Toby is now a one-man-wedding service provider. Sponsors and Links: Tooth & Nail - Silent Planet http://www.toothandnail.com Audiofeed Festival - http://badchristianday.com/ House Of Heroes - http://thehouseofheroes.com/ Emery Acoustic - http://emeryacoustic.com/register --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/songs-and-stories/support

#183 Tullian Tchividjian and the Benefit of the Doubt Apr 15, 2016

Church infrastructure is failing pastors. Why are they given the benefit of the doubt when it comes to extra-marital affairs? Was it a misdirected zeal for the sake of the gospel when Tchividjian’s elders tried to keep his affair hidden? Why are narcissists attracted to the Pastoral profession? Also, Joey kicks alligators, Matt has a theory about Stockholm Syndrome in pets and we have a short interview with BC clubber Silas George.

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#182 Perry Noble Apr 13, 2016

Pastor and author Perry Noble comes on to talk about numbers, transparency, twitter, pastor's salaries, and Mark Driscoll. Also, Toby is filling in as campus pastor for Joey while he’s on sabbatical and accidentally found himself preaching. And Matt uses his dishwasher as the ultimate example of religious superstitious behavior. Sponsors and Links: Blue Apron - http://blueapron.com/badchristian/ NatureBox - http://naturebox.com/badchristian/ Perry Noble - http://perrynoble.com/ Audiofeed Festival - http://badchristianday.com/ House Of Heroes - http://thehouseofheroes.com/ Emery Acoustic - http://emeryacoustic.com/ --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/songs-and-stories/support

#181 Zach Bolen Apr 09, 2016

How long can you look at a breast and not lust? Well, lots of variables are involved in that one my friend. Time to dissect this with some laughs. Exciting future music releases from BC Music including one new announcement fresh off the presses. The fellas use weird scriptures to encourage one another and Joey doesn’t care about how he looks because life is short, his body is going to die and heaven is forever?! Also a special interview and live in studio performance from Zach Bolen! Sponsors and Links: TrackR - http://thetracker.com/ - use promo code “BADCHRISTIAN” Weebly - http://weebly.com/badchristian Zach Bolen - http://zachbolen.com/ House Of Heroes - http://thehouseofheroes.com/ Emery Acoustic - http://emeryacoustic.com/ --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/songs-and-stories/support

#180 Toby Hurts Joey and Hand-Jobs From Robots Apr 06, 2016

Toby is an active Campus Pastor of their church during Joey’s one-month sabbatical. Joey is depressed and Toby’s doesn’t choose his words wisely. Know what that means? Recipe for disaster. The two apologize after their bickering takes up the majority of the podcast, leaving enough time to discuss potential impact Robots can have on the prostitution/porn industry and to marriages.

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#179 Mike Sares, weed and another talk about the gays Apr 02, 2016

Mike Sares, Pastor of Scum of the Earth Church: For the pastor in Denver, we had to talk marijuana. Also discussed his approach to women leadership and how he became friends with the Five Iron Frenzy guys, who are integrally involved at his church.

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#178 Matt Doesn’t Have a Love Language + Aaron Lunsford Mar 30, 2016

That Five Love Languages Book is full of shit according to Matt. Toby gives the secret to making Matt cry, Joey needs words of affirmation and Matt thinks friendships are based on the usefulness of people. Musician and author Aaron Lunsford also joins the show. In the Damn News, would you trust the clergy with your child and are all jokes funny?

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#177 Scott Mellinger of Zao returns! Another Cheating Pastor and Toby Loses It. Mar 26, 2016

Is physically cheating on your wife with another woman worse than looking at porn?When should a Pastor lose his job and what sort of benefits should he get? Yeah, that’s right, we’re the experts. Matt is the King of BadChristian expansion. There’s so much going on that Joey and Toby find out about new projects via social media. Also we get back into it with Scott Mellinger about what it means to be an atheist and Joey asks a bunch of stupid questions. Sponsors and Links: TrackR - http://thetrackr.com AudioFeed Festival 2016 - http://badchristianday.com --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/songs-and-stories/support

#176 Mike McCann, Matt’s Grandma’s Passing and Christian Movies Mar 23, 2016

Emo-less Matt processes the passing of his favorite Grandparent and Toby calls BS on a Holy Spirit encounter Joey apparently had while watching a Christian movie. This episode was recorded way past every one’s bedtime but hey, you got to do what you got to do. We’re also joined by author and friend Mike McCann. Sponsors and Links: NatureBox - http://naturebox.com/badchristian

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#175 40 Years for Toby, Fuller House and the Failing Education System Mar 19, 2016

That’s right, Toby hits the big 4-0! And, oh yeah, no girls allowed at his birthday party. Also, why are Christians so dogmatic in their stances on art and entertainment? And Matt goes off on the education system because he knows everything about everything. This episode is a real tearjerker!

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#174 Derek Minor - Hip Hop Artist Mar 16, 2016

Why Toby thinks a family vacation to NY is a horrible idea, what the future has in store for digital/robot sex, some possible intern openings at BadChristian, the Damn News and more.

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#173 Overcoming Corn Addition + Preston Sprinkle Mar 12, 2016

We check back in with author, teacher and speaker Preston Sprinkle. Also, have the terms “Emo” and “Evangelical” come to mean something totally different than when they started? What can we do to claim victory over our addition to Corn?! Has Toby uncovered what might be the worst thing yet to ever be addicted to? Tune in and find out!

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#172 Mikee Bridges Mar 09, 2016

Our guest this week Mikee Bridges (Game Church, TOM Fest, Sometime Sunday) has some regrets about his background in Christian music, bands, festivals and the like. In the news - what's the deal with leap year birthdays? Also, prepare yourself for a toxic shock!
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#171 What is Toby doing with his Life?! Mar 06, 2016

Toby wonders what the hell he’s doing with his life, Joey’s has major doubts, Everything is falling apart. Seems to be a toilsome time in Joey and Toby’s brains. Matt makes some observations and seems to have some clear assessments to what’s wrong. Personal, intimate and scary conversations made public.

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#170 Tyson Motsenbocker Mar 02, 2016

We are joined today by Tyson Motsenbocker whose grieving process after the loss of his mother involved walking from San Diego to San Francisco. He will tell us how that worked out and he’ll also perform a track from his new album live in studio! Speaking of grieving, Joey’s son is very upset about the death of Abraham Lincoln. We also explore whether or not Jesus can be your personal Lord and trainer.

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#169 Joey's Guilt and Our College Buddy Dumpy Feb 27, 2016

Listen up as Joey and our guest Dumpy thrill you with stories from their glory days in college. You know, the ones about bad breakups and joining fraternities for the girls? No? How about the one where Joey gets out of the car at a stoplight for no reason? Also, can Joey’s new diet work to cure his depression even if he eats an entire box of Tic Tac’s and chunks of pineapple? And Joey finally gets a taste of his own medicine when Toby interrupts one of his stories.
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#168 Jeff Bettger, questionable Christian art, inside scoop on Mark Driscoll Feb 24, 2016

Join us and our guest Jeff Bettger (DRYBNZ, Artist Reformation) as we discuss what might have gone wrong with Pastor Mark Driscoll and Mars Hill Church in Seattle. Also, can Matt successfully navigate a business meeting with a hand full of dog shit? When a pastor implodes a Church is the congregation ultimately to blame? Answers to this and more on this episode of Bad Christian!

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#167 Mike Lewis, Joey's New Diet, and Crazy Stuff from the Pulpit Feb 20, 2016

Our guest this week is Mike Lewis from Go Big Win and the Giving Is Believing podcast. He tells us about touring with Rage Against The Machine back in the day and why Christians shouldn’t drive Porche’s. Also, a special visit from Ike and thank God Joey is finally going on a diet!

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#166 Death Of The Sermon II - Nick Bogardus Feb 17, 2016

We are joined this episode by pastor and former band manager Nick Bogardus as we dig further into the shelf life of sermons. Also, is there a tiny woman named Siri living in your iPhone? Should throwing a small alligator through a drive thru window be considered assault with a deadly weapon? We answer the big questions!
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#165 Matt Sucks at Marriage but Joey Believes in Giants Feb 13, 2016

Joey believes in giants! Toby is taking angry notes during his workouts. Matt is trying to be less attractive to keep his marriage happy. Also an interview with a BC Clubber.

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#164 The Very Worst Missionary, Jamie Wright Feb 10, 2016

Today we are joined by blogger Jamie Wright who is the self-proclaimed "Very Worst Missionary." Also, is Joey the laziest broadcaster on earth? Should you be eating chicken tenders coated in pork rinds to lose weight? We also give some help for you ladies on how to interpret text messages.
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#163 New BC Ventures + Don't Feed the Trolls Feb 07, 2016

Some exciting new projects in the BC universe. Joey talks about his new book examining his mental illness, and the new podcast from Matt MacDonald and Nate Henrey of The Classic Crime and Sherwood.

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#162 Dave Runyon - Art of Neighboring Feb 03, 2016

Join us with guest Dave Runyon, co-author of the book "The Art of Neighboring: Building Genuine Relationships Right Outside Your Door." We're going to talk about the classic Christian "bait and switch", the importance of not being weird and what a "heart-on" is. Also, Matt runs down the list of things he doesn't use and Toby tries to convince us that life without God would be just like becoming somebody's prison bitch.

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#161 Can you be a worship leader who is not a people person? Jan 30, 2016

Is that opening refrain of Amazing Grace there to bring in the Holy Spirt or just to butter you up? Is Devin Shelton more of a ladies man than we ever imagined? Is it possible to be a worship leader who is not a people person? Also, can somebody buy Toby a Yeti tumbler and a working car ASAP! We are part of The Jabberjaw Podcast Network. Sponsors and Links MileIQ - Text BadChristian to 31996 Anchor & Braille - http://toothandnail.merchline.com/ Shop on Amazon --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/songs-and-stories/support

#160 John Burke Author of Imagine Heaven Jan 27, 2016

New York Times best-selling author John Burke joins us to talk about his new book "Imagine Heaven" which is about near-death experiences. Also...did Joey see a ghost mowing a lawn? Did Matt just admit "sometimes I do kinda like sin, though." And in the Damn News, has Church discipline gone too far?

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#159 Matt MacDonald and James Wightman plus a Virginity Update Jan 23, 2016

Matt tries to once again re-define virginity and Joey questions Toby about "Holy Spirit ninja moves." Matt MacDonald (The Vocal Few) also comes on to give some thoughts on narcissism and the personal politics of giving birthday gifts. Wait a second, did Joey just take off his shirt?!

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#158 Godless from Metal Sucks Podcast Jan 20, 2016

Science segments about low carb diets! News segments about Obama! Firefighters with diabetes! We even introduce a new game show called “What Would The American Christian Say?” Join the Bad Christian crew with special guests Hayne Griffin and Godless as we try to go here, there and everywhere in this jam packed episode.

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#157 Jake Luhrs of August Burns Red Returns Jan 16, 2016

Jake joins us to discuss August Burns Red's recent Grammy nomination and Heart Support's new program called Restore. He also discusses his recent divorce and how people have reacted to the news. Jake even offers up some thought on Mark Driscoll as well.

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#156 The Death of the Sermon Jan 13, 2016

Does the current model of the Church need to be scrapped? Should we kill the sermon or is it already dead? Is my small group just a way for me to feel like am doing something without really doing anything? Should Church look more like the TonightShow with guests and a band? These are just some of the topics Toby, Matt and Joey get into this week. Hold on to your Bibles, it’s about to get real!

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#155 Andrew Schwab of Project 86 Jan 09, 2016

Schwab joins today and walks us through some the ups and downs of Project 86 and a look into what it was like going from indie to mainstream with a big major label and back to indie to truly independent.

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#154 Anxiety, Insecurity and Jealousy Aren't So Bad Jan 06, 2016

Toby is losing weight, Matt is gaining weight, and there is a possibility that all three guys may soon all meet at just over 200 pounds. Todays discussion includes fat shaming, political correctness and then gives way to discussing how anxiety, defensiveness, and jealousy would be perhaps favorable qualities in a more primitive or post apocalyptic society.

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#153 Conspiracy Theories with Jared Svendsen + ESPN's Daniel Dopp Jan 02, 2016

Joey's brother Jared joins to discuss stuff like conspiracy theories and ESPN podcast producer and BC Music vinyl manager Daniel Dopp calls in to chat about his jobs.

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#152 Seth and David Taylor Dec 30, 2015

Compelling interview from Seth and David Taylor, twin brothers and authors who have written about what it mean to actually use faith as opposed to employing "practical strategies" like Everyman's Battle to end porn addiction and other spiritual problems.

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#151 3 Blabbermouths + Andy From We Are The City Calls In. Dec 26, 2015

Matt asks how to discipline a 2 year old and Toby claims that modern day sermons seems to keep people down and focused on their suffering. Also, Andy from We Are The City calls in to say hey.

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#150 Social/ Church Taboos + Logan Cael Dec 23, 2015

Matt's marriage insurance idea was finally claimed and instituted , the R word, and why that pastor on Joey's show wanted to disguise his voice, plus Logan Cael calls in.

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#149 Devin Shelton Plus a Special Announcement Dec 19, 2015

What is Devin gonna be up to in 2016? Listen to the episode to find out.

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#148 Christmas and Stuff plus Billy Power Dec 16, 2015

Toby improvises two Christmas songs plus Billy Power of the Urban Achiever Podcast,who has been editing this show recently, joins for a bit to talk.

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#147 Dave Bazan Dec 12, 2015

During Matt's trip to Charleston, Dave Bazan stopped by to have lunch and talk with Toby Joey and Matt in person. This conversation was a blast. Toby or course says some incredibly obnoxious things and has Dave cracking up and we get to discuss some stuff about dave personally that we've never heard before.

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#146 Gun Control, Mark Salomon and Mark LaFay Dec 09, 2015

Mark Salomon is the singer of Stavesacre and other bands and Mark LaFay is the Manager of Haste the Day and other bands. They join us on the second half of the show to discuss gun control.

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#145 Mega Church Pastors and The NFL Commissioner Deserve More Money Dec 05, 2015

Matt leads worship, and the guys discuss Perry Noble's and Steven Furtick's salary and why the deserve more money.

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#144 Aaron Weiss of Mewithoutyou Dec 02, 2015

Aaron Weiss is the enigmatic vocalist of mewithoutYou. We finally tracked him down and went over some of the urban legends surrounding him and the band and an update on his "faith journey"

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#143 Toby Says the F Word 15 Times On Stage Nov 28, 2015

Toby said the F word 15 times on stage at a Christian venue in an epic rant about Jesus, and Matt wishes that great Christian thinkers and communicators could sometimes talk about something other than the Gospel and also illustrates what he believes to be the parallels between politicians and pastors.

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#142 Chad Hennings 3 Time Super Bowl Champion Nov 25, 2015

Chad Hennings is a three time Super Bowl winning offensive lineman with the Dallas Cowboys in the '90s and flew the A-10 in the Airforce. He has a new book called Forces of Character.

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#141 Whack Stuff in the Church. Nov 21, 2015

Not revealing your pastoral salary because you say it's "unbiblical" and prophetic pastors that operate similar to psychics, you have to admit these sorts of things make the church look really weird.

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#140 Justin Wren MMA Fighter Nov 18, 2015

Justin Wren is an MMA fighter. After discovering his faith following a six-year struggle with addiction and depression in his early career, Wren stepped away from MMA and founded the Fight for the Forgotten, a non profit to help and serve the Mbuti Pygmy people deep in the jungles of the Congo. Since 2011, Justin and Fight for the Forgotten have provided nearly 3,000 acres of land and 25 water wells to the Pygmies. In 2015 Wren returned to MMA fighting to raise awareness for his cause.

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#139 The Depressed Pastor Nov 14, 2015

Joey is in a particularly goofball mood after what he describes as a really dark Sunday. He opens up about about specific thoughts and feelings he has about himself and family during such times.

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#138 Preston Sprinkle Author Nov 11, 2015

Preston Sprinkle is the vice president of Eternity Bible College's Boise extension. He blogs at Theology in the Raw and co authored Erasing Hell with Francis Chan. He has a new book out Dec 8th called A People to be Loved, Why Homosexuality Isn't Just an Issue.

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#137 Joey's Epic Penis Confession Nov 07, 2015

Joey has another whopper of a story involving his penis. Matt is speechless and Toby can't get a hold of himself. Matt further explains that he is skeptical of our Satanist Halloween guest, and Matt's dad calls in for an appearance.

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#136 Mattie Montgomery of For Today Nov 04, 2015

Mattie is the the singer for the band ForToday. Known for preaching on and off stage, when Mattie joined the band, he had two conditions: First, the band must have a Bible study together every day. Second, Montgomery wanted the band to use their time on stage performing to minister to the audience.

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#135 Zachary King former Satanist Oct 31, 2015

Happy Halloween!! Zachary King began practicing magic at 10 years old, joined a satanic coven at 13years old. From his teen years to adulthood he worked his way up to High Wizard in the coven and actively pushed satan’s agenda including ritualistic abortions and breaking up churches. But then in January 2008, while working at a jewelry kiosk, Zachary had an encounter with Our Blessed Mother which changed his life.

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#134 Sammy Rhodes Oct 28, 2015

Sammy Rhodes is the RUF campus minister at the University of South Carolina. He gained tremendous popularity on twitter and was known for his humor. He was accused of stealing jokes and drew the ire of many including Patton Oswalt. Sammy then took a hiatus from twitter and has since returned and has a book coming out next year call Embracing Awkward.

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