Verse Talks

Sofia Garcia: the birth of ARTXCODE, building relationships and the future of art Jun 13, 2025

Jamie and Leyla sit down with Sofia Garcia to explore her journey through digital art, from the early days of ARTXCODE and building lasting relationships, to navigating the 2021 hype and envisioning the future of art in the age of the internet.

1:00 - Welcome Sofia Garcia

05:25 - The birth of ARTXCODE

10:50 - Selling works at CADAF and the first mint

17:10 - Finding an organic aesthetic in the digital

18:42 - The state of the community circa 2019

23:37 - The pandemic and a move to digital curation

26:55 - The early perception and growth of NFTs

31:55 - 2021 and navigating the hype

37:40 - Taking ARTXCODE full time

40:17 - Thoughts on collecting, curation and the current digital art zeitgeist

42:55 - A fluid definition of a practice

45:14 - Artist representation

49:58 - Honest feedback and understanding collector expectations

52:00 - Building a roster and working relationships

54:25 - A support system based on shared values

01:01:02 - Thoughts on gatekeeping

01:08:01 - What does the future of art look like

01:12:20 - A holistic approach to the digital art space

01:16:30 - Sales and the realities of curating blockchain-based art

01:20:42 - What's next for ARTXCODE

01:27:09 - Sophia's dream artist to sign

01:29:09 - Artist highlights

01:37:06 - Verse rundown

Sofia Garcia: https://x.com/sofiagarcia_io

Mika Ben Amar: https://x.com/100o111

enigmatriz: https://x.com/enigmatriz

Frank Manzano: https://x.com/loved_orleer

Kevin Esherick: https://x.com/kev_esh

Mr Richi: https://x.com/richi0118

Mr Richi - It's Just JPEGs: https://x.com/richi0118/status/1931643514003111974?s=46&t=Y0qIYiBAAsy4ea-t-FfRQw

Making markets, creating value and building for the long-term Jun 06, 2025

Jay, Jamie, Ivan and Leyla sit down together and examine the markets growing optimism, gallery models, transparency and creating value and confidence for both artists and collectors.

01:00 - Jay's summer break

05:53 - Twitter toxicity and curating your social feeds

09:30 - The market's heating up

15:40 - Speculation vs desire

18:30 - The confidence speculation can inspire in a collector base

19:50 The benefits and difficulties of playing in an emergent space

22:10 - Jay and Jamies' collecting thesis

27:37 - Financial realities and looking for a return

29:20 - Advice for new entrants to the space

33:00 - Balancing business, artist and collector interests

40:45 - Making the market

44:03 - What creates confidence and value around an artist

47:00 - Building market confidence and adopting a Gagosian model

53:16 - Artifice, transparency and creating real demand

56:33 - The issues with pursuing a traditional gallery model in the web3 space

01:02:50 - How important is a program and justifying time spent

01:08:38 - A difference in approaches between the traditional and web3 spaces

01:11:33 - The importance of a diversified program

01:12:45 - Artist Highlights

01:15:03 - Evolving collector tastes

01:17:45 - "The subject matter doesn't make the piece"

01:20:03 - Has the space's aesthetic been calcified?

Skygolpe: https://x.com/skygolpe

Jack: https://x.com/franskeej

Frank Manzano: https://x.com/loved_orleer

Itsgalo: https://x.com/galoandstuff

ex_mortal_: https://x.com/ex_mortal_

canek zapata: https://x.com/canekzapata

Robinson St. George: https://x.com/rbnsnstgrg

skomra: https://x.com/skomra

neuraldivine: https://x.com/neural_divine

MCHX: https://x.com/mchx17

DJKero: https://x.com/djkero

Greg Nikshumika: https://x.com/gregnikshumika

Kyle Flemmer: https://x.com/wildmissingnos

Nicolas Sassoon: https://x.com/nicolas_sassoon

Jeres: https://x.com/heyjeres

Erik Swahn: https://x.com/erikswahn

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Lilan Yang: https://www.instagram.com/lilanyang.studio

Ciphrd & Cosimo from fx(hash): open-form, $FXH, art coins and the importance of an open platform May 30, 2025

Jamie, Ivan and Leyla sit down with Ciphrd and Cosimo from fxhash to explore their new Open-form protocol, the launch of the $FXH token and how the two platforms differ in their approaches.

00:50 - Welcome Ciphrd and Cosimo

03:17 - Digging into art coins

09:50 - Token mechanics and pricing mechanisms

12:08 - A new method of patronage

17:25 - Speculation and new market participants

21:02 - The thinking behind the model

27:26 - Open-form generative art

29:55 - Balancing speculation with long-term attention

37:40 - Creating sustainability through innovation

40:03 - How $FXH powers the ecosystem

44:20 - Large scale releases and algorithmic evolution

50:40 - The community reception

53:50 - Onboarding artists to the new system

57:45 - Amplifying artists, collections and catching momentum

01:03:20 - Shifting collector mentality around value

01:10:24 - The mental cost of a pivot and the birth of Open-form

01:13:15 - The difference in connecting with a smaller or larger series

01:21:58 - An open versus a curated platform model

01:29:31- A symbiotic platform dynamic

01:31:28 - The power of web3's means of distribution

01:34:40 - Accessibility, scale, and the network effects of attention

01:41:39 - Defining success and sustainability in a new paradigm

01:46:55 - The value proposition of a curated platform

01:51:35 - A multi-model art market

01:53:10 - A points-based allow list

01:50:01 - Creating a cultural counter point to the traditional art market

02:02:15 - A holistic approach to platforms across the space

Snowfro: democratising art, navigating success and the realities of gatekeeping May 23, 2025

Welcoming Erick Calderon aka Snowfro, to discuss all things generative, Art Blocks, Generative Goods, the difficulty of wearing multiple hats, the weight of people's expectations and dealing with competition in the space.

01:02 - Welcome Snowfro

01:40 - Bringing the energy and shaping culture

03:45 - The headspace of a founder vs an artist

05:25 - Being pulled in different directions

06:38 - The core goal of Art Blocks

09:00 - Democratisation of the art

12:20 - The importance of a longterm perspective

13:35 - Thoughts on the traditional gallery model

16:50 - Not leaning into FOMO as a platform

19:58 - The responsibility that comes with success

22:09 - How to deal with the distribution of audience attention among projects

24:00 - Why the Art Blocks schedule has slowed

26:18 - The still-unexplored potential of generative unchain art

28:04 - Extend your time horizon

30:20 - AB Curated, AB Studio and moving forward

33:21 - How to think about competition

44:50 - The power of generative art and blockchain as a distribution mechanism

46:56 - Navigating the success of Squiggles

50:00 - Collecting, Selling, and financial realities of a digital art platform

52:19 - Artists and projects that are pushing things forward

55:40 - The intersection of AI and code based work

58:58 - A new solo project and the power of constraints

01:02:13 - Juggling AB, Generative Goods and an art practice

01:05:15 - The Generative Goods philosophy and connecting with a different audience

01:15:15 - Different view points, different business models and creating upside

01:22:40 - Snowfro debrief

01:24:20 - The realities of gatekeeping

01:29:00 - Orkhan's Rêveries

01:37:30 - Technical issues with the minting process

01:40:20 - The semantics of gatekeeping

01:44:55 - Artist highlights

Snowfro: https://x.com/artonblockchain

nikita diakur: https://x.com/nikitadiakur

Spencer Yan: https://x.com/spncryn

Marcela Bellini: https://x.com/studiobellini

Joain: https://x.com/0xjoain

LEGIO_X: https://x.com/legio_x_

Jesse Draxler: https://x.com/jessedraxler

Petra Cortright: https://x.com/petcortright

Beeple: 69 problems but p*nises ain't one May 16, 2025

Jay, Ivan, Leyla and Jamie sit down with Beeple to discuss the importance of authenticity, virality, the role of galleries in web3 and the responsibility of curatorial uplift in an attention economy.

00:50 - Welcome Beeple

01:33 - Avoiding burnout and connecting with an audience

04:30 - Looking back across an artistic practice

06:06 - When is a work finished and the exploratory role of an artist

08:25 - Developing a physical practice

12:09 - What role do galleries have in the space

14:32 - Beeple Studios as an alternative cultural hub

18:25 - Digital media's potential for greater inclusivity

24:20 - Curator guidance, imparting context and wall text

26:50 - Finding balance in politically charged work

32:30 - How to tell what will resonate

34:40 - The Trump phenomenon and attention economy

36:00 - What community really means in web3

39:30 - Why the imbalance between penises and vaginas

40:30 - Self-censoring, misinterpretation and deleting posts

43:26 - Where will we be in ten years?

44:00 - Post-Beeple debrief

45:06 - Meme-pyromania and community reaction as art

46:18 - The exponential curve of stimulation

49:40 - Beeple's curatorial approach and the democratisation of opportunity

51:36 - Red Chip, Blue Chip and wall text

58:39 - Node's acquisition of the Punks IP

01:04:00 - Verse rundown

01:06:26 - Artist Highlights

Beeple: https://x.com/beeple

Pipiuniversel: https://x.com/pipiuniversel

Sogaki: https://x.com/sogaki

The Galois Connection: https://x.com/thegaloiscxn

MACBETH: https://x.com/macbethai

Phantom Scribbler: are aesthetics dead, the social stickiness of NFTs, memetic value and an impulsive approach to art May 09, 2025

A conversation with legendary collector and timeline provocateur Phantom Scribbler. We dive into memes, the social impact of NFTs, the importance of concept & narrative in artworks and the death of aesthetics.

01:30 - The state of the market

05:47 - New additions and a rising floor

08:20 - Welcome Phantom Scribbler

09:15 - The effect of price action

10:40 - Phantom's introduction to NFTs

12:05 - Is the NFT trade over?

14:32 - Phantom's approach to collecting

17:00 - Autoglyphs and onchain art

18:57 - The emotional connection with an artwork

20:46 - The power of an ugly aesthetic

21:50 - Are aesthetics dead?

22:30 - Lost Robbies and the value of an origin story

24:37 - An impulsive approach to art

28:40 - Bidding on the Giraffe, and understanding memetic value

34:30 - Social stickiness around NFTs

38:00 - The responsibility collectors have to engage and build cultural narrative

50:09 - Brevity, complexity and genuine analysis

52:45 - Phantom's thoughts on physical art

58:35 - The magic formula for a successful release process

01:05:46 - What grabs Phantom's attention

01:09:00 - Artie Galerie and the importance of consistency

01:11:30 - How to onboard new collectors

01:18:57 - Phantom's favourite piece in his collection

01:19:25 - Thoughts on chains, timeframes and liquidity

01:26:28 - Phantom's biggest misses and questionable buys

Phantom Scribbler: https://x.com/phantom_scribbs

Pipi Universal: https://x.com/pipiuniversel

skomra: https://x.com/skomra

LEGIO_X: https://x.com/legio_x_

Yuri jjjj: https://x.com/yuri_jjjj

Adam Berninger: Heft, physical spaces for the digital community, institutional vs influencer gatekeeping and the culture casino May 02, 2025

Jay, Ivan, Jamie and Leyla sit down with Adam Berninger of Tender and Heft Gallery to dive into Heft's opening, the realities of opening a physical space, artist-gallery relationships, the culture casino and institutional vs influencer gatekeeping.

01:38 - Welcome Adam Berninger

03:50 - The relationship between Tender and Heft

07:49 - What inspired the move to a physical gallery model

12:30 - Connecting in person and object-hood

16:00 - The power of a digital community

18:55 - How digital ownership is understood from outside the space

20:40 - The financial pressures of a physical gallery

25:45 - Galvanising the New York digital art scene

27:40 - Artist-gallery relationships

37:20 - Heft's upcoming program

39:41 - Keeping a balance of blockchain-based and physical works

44:20 - Showcasing the digital art community to people outside

46:30 - The challenges of onboarding and making it sticky

48:02 - What's in Verse's pipeline, working with different galleries and voices

54:30 - Heft's site, Verse white labelling and potential opportunities

59:50 - An expanding gallery presence for digital art in New York

01:01:39 - Meeting and working with Edward Burtynsky

01:07:00 - Fx(hash) airdrop announcement

01:09:51 - Artworks being sold as coins, fractionalisation and editions

01:17:02 - Turning culture into a casino

01:22:10 - Everything is a simulacrum

01:25:41 - Reacting to market conditions and competition

01:32:20 - The bell curve meme takes on gatekeeping

01:40:10 - The issue with the lack of institutional knowledge

01:44:15 - The issue with lack of influencer knowledge

01:50:56 - Artist Highlights

01:56:31 - Verse rundown

Adam Berninger: https://x.com/adamberninger

Heft: https://x.com/heft_gallery

Skomra: https://x.com/skomra

Pipi universal: https://x.com/pipiuniversel

LEGIO_X: https://x.com/legio_x

YuriJJJJ: https://x.com/yuri_jjjj

Mika Ben Amar: https://x.com/100o111

Orkhan: https://x.com/orkhan_art

A conversation with Kenny Schachter, plus Sketchbook B, Zora's content coins and Rodeo's USD pivot Apr 25, 2025

Kenny Schachter joins Leyla, Jay, Jamie & Ivan to discuss NFT-ism, technology, criticism and all things art before diving into Sketchbook B, content coins and Rodeo's pivot to USD.

01:00 - Welcome Kenny Schachter

03:20 - Building an audience in a pre-internet world

06:30 - Embracing authenticity and integrity

09:00 - Art as a means of social expression

12:49 - Closed mindedness in the art world

15:35 - NFT-ism

19:35 - Dealing with criticism

23:03 - A new audience and the appeal of NFTs

25:40 - Rebuilding the reputation of the NFT space

32:01 - Will the art world and the NFT space ever merge?

35:15 - Presence, reputation and engaging with community

39:50 - Technology and the impact of the computer

44:07 - Surviving in the current landscape

50:12 - Institutional and critical impact vs social media

52:20 - Finding opportunity in failure

01:01:27 - William Mapan and Sketchbook B

01:05:12 - Generative art in 2025

01:09:00 - How do you help to break new artists

01:10:47 - Tinysoul, Zora and content coins

01:19:15 - The impact of monetisation on creativity

01:28:25 - A different outlook on consumption

01:32:17 - The problem with just coining it

01:41:25 - Rodeo's pivot to USD

01:48:27 - Pocobelli and crypto art

01:54:25 - Artist highlights

02:00:02 - Verse Rundown

Jack Butcher: this episode may or may not be notable Apr 18, 2025

This week Jack Butcher joins Jamie, Leyla and Jay to discuss, the power of a network, Systems art, the internet's huge creative unlock, the value of independence and whether 'Artist' is a dead word.

00:50 - Welcome Jack Butcher

03:46 - Jack's practice in his own words

05:56 - Don't over think it

07:32 - Design vs Art

10:11 - Systems art and the internet as a canvas

18:05 - In-search of resonance

23:30 - Validation and recognition

26:05 - How useful is the term 'Artist'?

31:45 - The internet's huge unlock

35:50 - Effort does not equal value

38:00 - Independence, control and externalising your thinking

39:54 - Minting on instinct

43:00 - The power of a network

45:30 - Why is the industry so male orientated?

48:10 - Thoughts on exhibiting in a physical space

54:50 - Creating understanding and the issue with working outside the box

59:55 - Power laws and growing the network

01:05:15 - Making your process visible

01:11:50 - New projects, experiments and constraints

01:14:32 - AI as part of a creative practice

01:16:35 - Where we'll be in three years?

01:25:00 - News from across the space

01:29 50 - Embracing the intensity of the space

01:32:15 - Artist highlights

Jack Butcher: https://x.com/jackbutcher

Visualize Value: https://x.com/visualizevalue

Ed Atkins: https://www.instagram.com/edatkinsdiet

Rafaël Rozendaal: https://x.com/newrafael

Heft: https://x.com/heft_gallery

Kevin Esherick: https://x.com/kev_esh

William Mapan: https://x.com/williamapan

Toxic positivity within the space, are panel discussions boring? Leyla's wallet boycott, Jack Kaido and SuperRare Apr 12, 2025

01:20 - Recap on William Mapan's SOLOS exhibition in London

05:00 - Mapan's holistic artistic approach

07:40 - Are discussion panels boring

14:20 - Embracing browser discrepancies

22:00 - The artist's intent vs breaking emerging standards

28:15 - Leyla's wallet boycott

33:10 - Jack Kaido and SuperRare

43:07 - Diving into Holly's collection

47:37 - Toxic positivity and Grace's post

54:17 - Timeframes and an opportunity to miss out

57:58 - Building out context in the digital space

01:00:30 - Botto's Liminal Thresholds

01:05:06 - Artists Rooms, formats and new focus

01:12:03 - Developing a release program and striking a balance

01:14:00 - Artist highlights

01:23:45 - Verse rundown

https://x.com/andreasgysin

https://x.com/graphicapng

https://x.com/reas

https://x.com/graceb_art

The Deviates secret revealed (SPOILERS), Chat GPT's Ghibli moment and life with personalised slop machines Apr 04, 2025

00:58 - The Deviates aftermath

02:15 - Unpacking the process

03:45 - The secret

06:40 - Driving variety and collaboration

10:50 - Battling platform censorship

13:50 - The reveal

16:45 - Great art can come from anywhere

20:20 - Self-expression and acceptance

23:15 - Deviations and community

24:18 - Permanence and provenance

27:09 - Personalised slop machines

35:40 - ChatGPT and the next wave of entrants

40:50 - Overly complex, off-putting tech

43:40 - Digital goes physical

47:30 - Deviates blue chip, red chip, purple chip?

49:10 - Fall out from Ghibli-gate

51:18 - William Mapan, sales mechanics

54:50 - Artie Gallerie and Kevin Esherick

56:29 - Fakewhale and Andy Duboc

Opening the sketchbook: A conversation with William Mapan Mar 28, 2025

01:22 - A complex practice

05:30 - Reflecting on Sketchbook A

09:50 - Parenthood on creativity

12:15 - Slowing down and escaping a framework

16:00 - Building bridges and the importance of physical work

19:48 - The evolution of Sketchbook B and Etudes

26:05 - Immersed in the process

27:33 - The completion of the sketchbook

31:20 - Mark making, self-exploration and identity

34:35 - Dealing with the noise

37:35 - The current focus on AI

39:49 - Does the medium matter

43:15 - Burnout and maintaining a work-life balance

47:30 - Installing Sketchbook B and highlighting the algorithm

53:45 - Authenticity and freedom of expression

56:38 - Thinking on sales mechanics and allowlists

59:19 - Intensity, stress and prerelease thoughts

Blue chip art in a red chip world, Jeff Magid and traditional perspectives, converging towards consensus Mar 21, 2025

01:30 - Jeff Magid

08:50 - Discovering another world

16:25 - Becoming a collector

19:15 - Risks and rewards

24:35 - Breaking convention

28:40 - The future of the art world and digital art

36:19 - Value creation and a complex market

39:55 - Stagnation and exclusivity

44:27 - Welcoming new participants

48:40 - Where digital art is going wrong

57:27 - The stigma of the PFP

1:00 - An outside perspective

01:01:54 - The roundtable returns

01:03:10 - Growing the digital space

01:05:30 - Fantasy art funds

01:06:20 - Parallel worlds

01:08:20 - The physicality of digital

01:10:08 - The promise of the metaverse

01:13:40 - Interacting and living with digital art

01:21:13 - Breaking down an outsiders perspective

01:26:20 - Blue chip art in a red chip world

01:36:30 - Converging towards a consensus look

01:41:10 - Agency, exposure and the impact of social media

01:51:49 - Red or blue

01:52:25 - High-end sales and moves

01:54:08 - Artist Highlights

01:58:28 - Verse rundown

hicetnunc2000: https://x.com/hicetnunc2000

kiszkiloszki: https://x.com/kiszkiloszki

Molly Soda: https://www.instagram.com/bloatedandalone4evr1993

Casey Reas: https://x.com/reas

Shl0ms: https://x.com/shl0ms

Jeff Magid: https://www.instagram.com/magideye

Hot deals or falling knives, the pullback and its cultural impact, thinking about historical context Mar 14, 2025

01:03 - Hunting for deals

02:47 - A market slump's effect on cultural enthusiasm

06:40 - Reassessing pricing and expanding the collector base

10:10 - Buying the top and catching falling knives

14:26 - Managing liquidity

15:46 - Navigating the market as an artist

19:22 - New mediums, new metas and perspectives

24:04 - Approaching historical context as a curator

32:15 - Watching the exit

33:30 - The market and creativity

35:29 - Total abundance and the All In Podcast

42:44 - Pacing and sustainability

48:35 - Artist highlights

52:00 - Verse rundown

Obtainer: https://x.com/obtainer

Kat the Poet Engineer: https://x.com/poetengineer

bjorn calleja: https://x.com/bjorncalleja

stoopid avatar: https://x.com/stoopidavatar

Iskra Velitchkova: https://x.com/pointline

elements of air: https://x.com/pointline_/status/1897615862984589505?s=46&t=Y0qIYiBAAsy4ea-t-FfRQw

All In episode 218: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/all-in-with-chamath-jason-sacks-friedberg/id1502871393?i=1000698337313

The Giraffe, pretension vs fun, building in the space and the team's 2 ETH picks Mar 07, 2025

03:00 - The Giraffe, debate, drama and narrative

07:37 - Understanding and the value of participation

11:19 - Pretension vs fun

16:15 - Freedom of expression and new value systems

22:43 - The Funny Guys, Monk Antony and Le Random

25:48 - Historic importance

30:00 - Research, criticality and ignoring hype

32:50 - Diving into Kaloh's tweet - the team's 2 ETH picks

46:30 - The difficulty of building in the space

54:20 - The impact of markets and cycles on collecting

56:55 - Mainstream understanding and expanding the collector base

01:02:00 - Embracing and exploring both cultural sphere's

01:05:50 - Diving into Eli's tweet - the team's picks

01:09:18 - Higgs, Christie's and the last week' s releases

01:13:15 - Verse rundown

01:16:16 - Artist highlights

Computer Critters: https://x.com/beachsideufo

littlecakes: https://x.com/evrythngissoft

Canek Zapata: https://x.com/canekzapata

Peter The Roman: https://x.com/peterthe_roman

Gozo: https://x.com/uncertaingaze

Tuukzs: https://x.com/tuukzs

José Narciso: https://x.com/narcisojuse

A conversation with Alejandro Cartagena, competition and collaboration, curating AI Agents and the power of machine artists Feb 28, 2025

01:40 - Embracing Web3's rollercoaster

03:20 - Navigating the intensity and finding a balance

07:57 - Living parallel lives

10:20 - Understanding new value systems and cultural shifts

14:14 - Opportunities within a lack of bureaucracy

18:00 - What denotes importance

27:00 - Grace's Tweet, competition and platform collaboration

30:20 - AI curation, Fellowship's north star and laying paths

36:25 - The reality of targeting a wider audience

40:30 - Strength in diversity and listening to the artwork

44:35 - Marketing, engagement and impact

52:00 - Unpacking keke

56:00 - Curating and guiding an AI Agent

01:00:30 - The inherent potential of a machine artist

01:02:30 - Mixed implementation of process

01:07:55 - Collector burnout

01:15:30 - The power of a timeline

01:18:20 - The evolution of the Daily program

01:24:20 - The state of the cycle

01:27:30 - Zora and fractionalisation

01:34:27 - Artist Highlights

01:38:00 - Verse Rundown

Colour Charlie: https://x.com/colour_charlie

Skomra: https://x.com/skomra

John Gerrard: https://x.com/john__gerrard

Unpacking Geometric Fluidity, concept vs aesthetics, SuperRare's Discord closure Feb 21, 2025

01:45 - Unpacking Geometric Fluidity

04:28 - First steps and markers

06:52 - Community, creation and curation

09:58 - Proof of participation

12:00 - Tensions and criticism

16:25 - Building conversations

20:29 - Over indexing on complexity

24:25 - The Future of Man

26:48 - Collector interaction

29:45 - Artistic merit vs market value

40:00 - Emperor's new clothes and conceptual gymnastics

49:35 - SuperRare shutters their discord

52:15 - Marketing, community and authenticity

56:54 - The importance of a place for human interaction

01:00:00 - Artist-collector interaction and support

01:06:00 - Gallery outreach and bandwidth constraints

01:14:35 - 22 Algorithms, The Giraffe and predictions

01:16:42 - Artist highlights

koneko: https://x.com/koneko_nyao

Eddi Jones: https://x.com/eddijonesnft

Chino Amobi: https://www.instagram.com/chinoamobi

Mazin: https://x.com/endless_mazin

Artie's #2316 thread: https://x.com/punk7635/status/1891997386135773388?s=46&t=Y0qIYiBAAsy4ea-t-FfRQw

Botto post-performance, the Christie's letter, art vs slop Feb 14, 2025

01:02 - Big sales and moving beyond the bubble

02:27 - Considered acquisitions

04:15 - Botto evolution and the afterlife of the work

07:09 - Thoughts on the performance and the final 22

13:41 - Community, interaction and curation

18:15 - The open letter to Christie's

21:45 - Art vs Slop

22:40 - The reality of appropriation in a contemporary practice

24:58 - A question of degree

29:50 - Speed of development and a lack of understanding

32:19 - Verse rundown

38:40 - Artist highlights

Gozo - https://x.com/uncertaingaze

Samia Halaby - https://www.instagram.com/samiahalaby

Ahtamaraneze - https://x.com/ahtamaraneze

Is marketing the new curating, navigating the algorithm, chain dynamics Feb 07, 2025

00:40 - The market's impact

03:15 - Chain choices and complexities

12:00 - Early constraints and historic value

15:20 - Is marketing the new curating?

17:15 - Defining curation

19:16 - Communication, context and narrative

23:20 - Differences in approach between the web3 and trad art-worlds

28:06 - Personal connections and interactions

30:06 - Navigating click bait and the algorithm

35:00 - That Botto tweet

43:13 - Artist highlights

49:35 - Verse rundown

0xvalent: https://x.com/0xvalent

Canek Zapata: https://x.com/canekzapata

Nat Sarkissian: https://x.com/_natsarkissian

Pixel Symphony: https://x.com/pixel0symphony

xu0.xo: https://x.com/xo_xu0

6oryachikh: https://x.com/6oryachikh

Aleksandra Jovanic: https://x.com/alexis_o_o

Jacek Markusiewicz: https://x.com/jmarkusiewicz

Claudia Hart: https://x.com/yesclaudiahart

Simon Hudson on the future of Botto and the power of the DAO Feb 05, 2025

02:20 - p5 and the evolution of Botto

10:22 - The future of governance and Botto's agency

15:00 - Navigating the new agentic landscape

19:25 - Botto's economy

23:50 - Responsibility, conviction and longevity

25:51 - Simon's motivations

31:50 - The power of the DAO

40:20 - p5.Botto, surprises, parallels and development

48:36 - Possible futures and directions

51:08 - Present day impact

58:18 - The AI Crypto meta, noise and communication

01:05:09 - Botto's taste and the drive to create

Mario Klingemann on the evolution of Botto Jan 31, 2025

02:40 - Building and hacking systems

09:35 - The birth of Botto

14:10 - The importance of the DAO

18:30 - The evolution of Botto in the face of new AI development

20:40 - Botto's persona and longevity

25:30 - Styles, themes and periods

27:53 - The economy of Botto, rewards and incentives

37:45 - The genesis of P5.Botto

41:15 - How the p5.Botto system works

47:50 - The final 22 algorithms

56:43 - Long term goals and possible futures

57:48 - The tension and benefits between autonomy and governance

01:00:39 - How much of Botto's personality comes through

01:03:29 - How Mario sees things developing

01:07:10 - The importance of competition

AI and the art market, emerging artists, Kim Asendorf's PXL Jan 24, 2025

01:25 - Crazy season
11:25 - Kim Asendof's PXL and an upward market
21:47 - Thinking about emerging artists
26:25 - Striking a balance
31:26 - Tabor Robak's Tabcorp Labs
36:24 - Verse Rundown
39:16 - Artist Highlights
40:49 - Digital natives and gaming culture
44:22 - Artist Highlights part 2
48:40 - A chat with Jo Lawson-Tancred
50:21 - Is the art world dead?
53:00 - Scepticism around AI in art
58:15 - AI within the paradigm of digital art and its culture of collecting
01:00:08 - The advent of the art market and parallels with the digital landscape
01:03:58 - Straddling the traditional and web3 spaces
01:10:20 - AI as an artist
01:14:13 - AI and The Art Market
01:20:25 - Opacity and Transparency in the trad and web3 markets
Kim Asendorf: https://x.com/kimasendorf
Tabor Robak: https://x.com/TaborRobak
John Karrel: https://x.com/jjjjjjjjjjohn
DistCollective: https://x.com/dist_cs
Matto: https://x.com/matto__matto
Jo Lawson-Tancred: https://x.com/jolawsontancred
AI and the Art Market
https://www.lundhumphries.com/products/ai-and-the-art-market

Breaking new ground with Botto, Ivan heads up Artist Rooms, the Rodeo continues Jan 17, 2025

00:37 - Ivan heads up Artist Rooms
01:50 - The excitement of a more open schedule
03:04 - Curation and focus for Artist Rooms
07:19 - Flexibility, freedom and consistency
11:13 - Thinking about what to show
14:54 - A difference in approach
20:07 - Foundations and backgrounds
32:13 - Breaking new ground with Botto
36:55 - Rodeo forging ahead
45:25 - The success of gamification
47:30 - Implications for the mainstream
50:20 - Verse rundown
50:43 - Artist highlights
Jay's Rodeo thread: https://x.com/punk7635/status/1879324354074587191?s=46
Anna Malina: https://x.com/annaxmalina
Juanna Pedro: https://x.com/PedroJuanna
Andrea Litmus: https://x.com/andrealitmus
Shoye: https://x.com/_SHOYE_
Molly Moon: https://www.tiktok.com/@mollymoonn2?lang=en

Rodeo takes off, defining importance and "the" list Jan 11, 2025

01:38 - Breaking down the list
03:40 - Context matters
07:06 - Liquidity and rarity
10:37 - How to define importance
16:10 - The problem with 'the' list
21:08 - Trickle-down economics and potential positives
27:34 - A split in the space, ChrisF's prescience
34:24 - Rodeo takes off
37:06 - Gamification and social interaction
39:37 - Ease of use and pace of consumption
42:22 - Thoughts as a collector
45:55 - Potential impact on an artist's body of work
47:11 - Onboarding and growth
54:50- Verse rundown
57:37 - Artist Highlights
John Provencher - https://x.com/hahajohnx/status/1876065942637359452?s=46&t=Y0qIYiBAAsy4ea-t-FfRQw
Marcela Bellini - https://x.com/studiobellini https://rodeo.club/@marcelaart
Sabato - https://x.com/sabatobox https://rodeo.club/@sabato
Scorpion Dagger - https://x.com/scorpdag https://rodeo.club/@scorpiondagger

Predictions, collecting and curating in 2025 Jan 03, 2025

06:49 - Trends and predictions for 2025
07:20 - AI agents and their continued impact
18:51 - The decline of metas
26:24 - Expanding the definition of art
28:56 - An increased tokenisation of art
30:57 - Barriers to entry for the space
36:58 - Complexity and exclusion
44:43 - WIPs and social engagement
46:07 - Growth in mixed media works
46:56 - Collecting in 2025
56:32 - Relationship with works
01:04:32 - Approaches to curating in 2025
01:17:28 - Verse rundown

Team picks and highlights of 2024 Dec 31, 2024

01:38 - Highlights and Lowlights
22:23 - Collector of the year
30:44 - Influencer of the year
40:25 - Blockchain of the year
46:10 - Controversy of the year
59:15 - Most though provoking piece of the year
01:01:46 - Series of the year
01:05:37 - Artwork of the year
01:08:21 - Favourite pieces collected this year
01:18:22 - Favourite new discovery this year
01:21:03 - Artist of the year
01:25:35 - Parting thoughts on 2024
Collector of the year:
Studio137: https://gallery.so/studio137
ClownVamp: https://x.com/ClownVamp
Artie Handz: https://x.com/punk7635
Graceb: https://x.com/graceb_art
ikijima: https://x.com/iki_jima
Influencer of the year:
DeeZe: https://x.com/deeze
redbeard: https://x.com/redbeardnft
Sonso: https://x.com/saintsonso
Shillr: https://x.com/shillrxyz
Le Random: https://x.com/lerandomart
Greekdx: https://x.com/greekdx
CSA2D7: https://x.com/csa2d7
Blockbird: https://x.com/_blockbird
sssluke: https://x.com/sssluke1
Most Thought Provoking Works:
Holly Herndon & Mat Dryhurst - The Call https://www.serpentinegalleries.org/whats-on/holly-herndon-mat-dryhurst-the-call/
Shl0ms: https://www.shl0ms.com
0xfff - World Computer Sculpture Garden https://worldcomputersculpture.garden
Favourite Series:
Erik Swahn - Autoscope https://verse.works/series/autoscope-by-erik-swahn
Petra Cortright - Burnt Umber Broken Silver American Spirit https://verse.works/series/burnt-umber-broken-silver-american-spirit-by-petra-cortright
tinysoul: Level 1 https://verse.works/series/level-1-by-tiny-soul
Joe Pease - everything vs nothing: https://www.everythingvsnothing.com

Travess Smalley – Crawl https://feralfile.com/explore/series/82dcf3d9-56ba-40bf-b57d-3a631bbdb7d5?viewMode=Grid

0xfff - You Are Here https://youarehere.0xfff.love

Rutherford Chang - CENTS https://rutherfordchang.com/cents
PERFECTLOOP - Trails https://verse.works/series/trails-by-perfect-l00p
Yoshi Sodeoka - The Flood https://verse.works/series/the-flood-orchestrated-by-yoshi-sodeoka
Jacek Markusiewicz - Barbarians https://verse.works/series/barbarians-by-jacek-markusiewicz
Roope Rainisto - Vacation https://verse.works/series/vacation-by-roope-rainisto
Tabor Robak - Broken Printer

Looking back on 2024, systems art vs object fetishism, platform tokens Dec 20, 2024

01:23 - Signs for the year ahead
04:52 - Looking back on 2024
10:11 - Buying, selling and thinking about a collection from a market perspective
13:21 - Reflecting on the last year at Verse
17:10 - Institutional and populist approaches towards culture
20:50 - ChrisF's systems art vs object fetishism thesis
27:49 - fxhash, OpenSea and platform tokens
42:42 - Lonli's highlight
44:16 - Verse rundown
47:59 - Artist Highlights
ChrisF's tweet - https://x.com/chrisf_0x/status/1867663900256481763?s=46&t=Y0qIYiBAAsy4ea-t-FfRQw
Riiiis: bully - https://verse.works/series/bully-by-riiiis
Jacek Markusiewicz: Barbarians - https://verse.works/series/barbarians-by-jacek-markusiewicz
Erik Swahn: Autoscope - https://verse.works/series/autoscope-by-erik-swahn
Datura - https://x.com/daturascore
Yehwan Song - https://x.com/yehwanyensong
Yehwan Song - Seeingless Seeing - https://verse.works/artworks/5dd8d947-ae87-4283-b526-35b1083c9e17/1
gozo - https://x.com/uncertaingaze
ex_mortal - https://x.com/ex_mortal_
ex_mortal: infinity_systems_one - https://verse.works/series/infinity_systems_one-by-ex-mortal

Inside TABCORP LABS: a conversation with Tabor Robak Dec 16, 2024

01:14 - An overview of Tabor's career to date
04:19 - The common threads
07:25 - Physical vs digital
12:39 - Scepticism from the traditional space
15:41 - Working at a web3 pace
18:44 - Conservatism in contemporary art
25:30 - Broken Printer's Recycled Program
29:53 - The process of creating a Recycled piece
34:23 - The genesis of Broken Printer
40:22 - The birth of TABCORP LABS
43:08 - What is TABCORP LABS
47:46 - The artist, collector dynamic
51:05 - The Materializer and the mechanics of TABCORP LABS
53:53 - New traits and how they impact the work
58:03 - Tabor's Favourite Broken Printer
01:02:20 - When will collectors receive their pieces

Art Basel & shl0ms recap, 'drops' vs ongoing releases, do curators need to be collectors Dec 13, 2024

00:38 - Art Basel Recap
04:12 - Online vs irl connections
07:40 - Reflections on Security
19:59 - Release mechanics and artist growth
32:15 - The value of network effects
38:48 - Do curators need to be collectors
45:25 - Basel Recap pt 2
51:00 - Verse rundown
59:07 - Artist highlights
Dev Harlan - https://x.com/devharlan
Nicolas Sassoon - https://x.com/nicolas_sassoon
Tabor Robak - https://x.com/taborrobak
Tù.úk’z - https://x.com/tuukzs
Dadabots - https://x.com/dadabots

Release Dynamics, PFPs and community, discipline to collecting, Shl0ms is God Dec 06, 2024

00:48 - Are we back?
04:25 - Collector confidence
11:14 - New entrants to the space
13:17 - RTFKT closure
17:20 - PFPs, identity and community
29:33 - Meme coins and risk
34:07 - Dynamics of fractionalisation
44:45 - Network effects and OEs
51:22 - Shl0ms is God
55:44 - Discipline to collecting
01:04:44 - Verse rundown
01:07:22 - Artist highlights
Eko33 - https://x.com/eko33
Panaviscope - https://x.com/panaviscope
Ex Mortal - https://x.com/ex_mortal_

Reflecting on the Banana, memes and virality, gearing up for Miami, the final act of Shl0ms' Security Nov 29, 2024

01:08 - Jay's experience as an artist
10:00 - "Anyone can art?"
16:59 - Reflecting on the banana and its impact
21:12 - Memes and virality
27:11 - Brain Rot and the speed of culture
36:31 - Traditional conceptual art and NFTs
40:00 - Bullposting and energy online
47:51 - Responsibility towards artists
51:43 - Paintboxed Miami
53:47 - The final act of Shl0ms' Security
54:40 - The Tornado Cash ruling
57:51 - Verse Rundown
01:01:14 - Artist Highlights
Auriea Harvey - https://x.com/auriea
Mazin - https://x.com/endless_mazin
Mark Webster - https://x.com/motiondesign
Yoshi Sodeoka - https://x.com/yoshi_sodeoka
Perfectloop - https://x.com/perfectl00p
Elna Frederick - https://x.com/elna_frederick
Yurijjjj - https://x.com/yuri_jjjj
Matt DesLauries - Bitframes: https://bitframes.io

AI agents, meme coins, Marfa recap Nov 22, 2024

01:18 - Marfa recap
16:45 - Artists, meme coins and marketing
23:04 - Financial nihilism and Sterling Crispin's post
26:54 - AI agents and their cultural impact
31:05 - The importance of human connection
34:46 - Framing agent developments, aesthetics and process
39:05 - Potential for growth in the space
42:39 - Unbound by human limits
46:15 - How should Verse navigate the art-agent axis
01:01:41 - Verse Rundown
01:10:38 - Artist Highlights
qubibi - https://x.com/qubibi
quibibi Awakened - https://highlight.xyz/mint/shape:0xF3851e1b7824BD920350E6Fe9B890bb76d01C9f7
noper - https://x.com/bagdelete
Maya Man - https://x.com/mayaonthenet
Ann Hirsch - https://x.com/nnhirsch
Ugly Bitches: https://verse.works/series/ugly-bitches-by-maya-man
pale kirill - https://x.com/palekirill
Canek Zapata - https://x.com/canekzapata

Virality in art, shared cultural realities, navigating the market Nov 15, 2024

01:09 - Sentiment check
03:01 - Navigating the market
09:07 - Platforms prepping for the bull
15:45 - Twitter discourse
17:54 - Art and virality
22:18 - The impact of virality on a creative practice
30:15 - Cultural parallels from the mainstream
33:39 - The bleeding edge
35:43 - tinysoul
38:04 - Memes, video games and shared cultural realities
41:15 - Verse Rundown
46:09 - Artist Highlights
Michelle Tompson: https://x.com/mich_tom
Andreas Gysin: https://x.com/andreasgysin
Jan Robert Leegte: https://x.com/janrobertleegte
Paul Prudence: https://x.com/mrprudence
Paul Prudence - ISO/IEC 10646: https://verse.works/series/iso-iec-10646-by-paul-prudence?itemId=41065b8e-42d9-4e9f-9336-4999516378ae
Iskra Velitchkova: https://x.com/pointline_
Iskra Velitchkova - Ink: https://www.artblocks.io/curated/collections/ink-(fragrances)-by-iskra-velitchkova

Investment funds involvement with institutions, ethics in the space, $BAN fall out and Paris Photo Nov 08, 2024

00:31 - Sentiment in the space
03:10 - Paris Photo
11:44 - $BAN and Michael Bouhanna
17:20 - The responsibility of leaders in the space and public perception
25:04 - The most significant work of the 21st Century
28:18 - Mechanics of museum administration
31:11 - Investment funds involvement with institutions
41:05 - Verse Rundown
58:02 - Artist Highlights
Luluxxx - https://x.com/luluixixix
Rafaël Rozendaal - https://x.com/newrafael
qubibi - https://x.com/qubibien
Disrupted Star - https://x.com/tidallyd
Legio X - https://x.com/legio_x_
Shaun Keenan - https://x.com/ktheorphan
World Computer Sculpture Garden: https://x.com/0xshiroi/status/1853775794264236338?s=46&t=Y0qIYiBAAsy4ea-t-FfRQw

AI season, Botto's evolution, artist meme coins, ArtBlocks partners with OpenSea Nov 01, 2024

00:29 - Sentiment in the space
02:31 - Art Basel report and movement in the wider art world
07:18 - Cattelan's banana and artist meme coins
15:50 - Sh0ms' Nothing
17:37 - AI season
19:54 - Botto turns to code based generative art
24:14 - The importance of growth in any practice
26:33 - ArtBlock partners with OpenSea
35:39 - Verse Rundown
41:02 - Artist highlights
Cherry: https://x.com/aletiune
ClownVamp - The Junk Machine: https://x.com/clownvamp/status/1851624131160064011?s=46&t=Y0qIYiBAAsy4ea-t-FfRQw
Artie Handz - the deviates: https://highlight.xyz/mint/shape:0xD4dd46226Db9c0c7af2D6925ffAC3af193422649

Artie Handz news, ArtBlocks Curated returns, Foundation's Pivot Oct 26, 2024

00:33 - Artie Handz news
05:03 - The realities of running a platform in the space
10:07 - Has being platform side shifted Jay's perspective
11:53 - What's next, new Artie Galerie shows and Jay's own series
15:01 - The two sides of the space and where they intersect
29:14 - Exploring the ArtBlocks premium
34:18 - Unpacking mpkoz's Bokeh and AB Curated's return
44:11 - Foundations' instagram wipe
54:15 - Mazin's Phantasmagoria
57:47 - Zuka Kipiani upcoming on Artie Galerie
01:01:45 - Push, pull and different perspectives
01:09:16 - Verse Rundown
01:15:33 - Artist highlights
RJ - Crash: https://verse.works/series/crash-by-rj16848519
Auriea Harvey - Me And My Ghost: https://objkt.com/collections/KT1ERJwCZGPNwarxhxVmXBjh96pchnTMpHNi

Lillian Schwartz: http://lillian.com/
Nice Aunties: https://x.com/niceaunties/status/1848285696932655230?s=46&t=Y0qIYiBAAsy4ea-t-FfRQw
Iskra Velitchkova: http://iskraovelitchkova.com
Mika Rottenberg: https://www.hauserwirth.com/artists/23390-mika-rottenberg/

Frieze rundown, are fairs still relevant, the bleeding edge, emotion versus technicality in art Oct 18, 2024

1:52 Sentiment check
10:45 Shl0ms, energy and the market
15:05 Frieze rundown, are art fairs still relevant?
20:48 Combining a digital and physical approach
23:40 Confidence in marketing work
25:20 The importance of a physical space
30:54 The bleeding edge
32:57 Familiarity, perception and context
36:23 Trends, top tens and the mainstream
39:48 Emotion versus technicality
46:33 Highlighting our pioneers
50:33 Artist highlights
Ex Mortal: https://x.com/ex_mortal_
Etienne Jacob: https://x.com/etiennejcb
Beesandbombs: https://x.com/beesandbombs
Cedar Plank: https://x.com/hasdrubalwaffle
Jon Wubbushi: https://x.com/wubbushi
The Rapture: https://verse.works/series/the-rapture-by-wubbushi

Artist sustainability, posturing and authenticity, collector mentality, Shl0ms' Security Oct 11, 2024

12:00 - Posturing and authenticity
21:03 - Collectors selling
24:50 - Reflecting on price extremes
30:44 - 2021 fallout and the price of participation
35:33 - Risk and opportunity
53:17 - Market moving
57:48 - Forming relationships in the space
1:01:40 - Pseudonymity vs openness
1:07:18 - Verse rundown and Shl0ms' Security
1:17:35 - Artist highlights
Bank: https://x.com/blankspac_e
0009: https://verse.works/0009
Jon Cates: http://joncates.com/
Jon Cates - Gitch Western Cowboy: https://objkt.com/tokens/KT1XDBxZxcyKh2NhAAiCvELu57LvvjQBTfWU/111
Riiiis: https://riiiis.xyz
SPACEFILLER: https://x.com/spacefillerart
Arsiliath: https://x.com/arsiliath

BURNT UMBER BROKEN SILVER AMERICAN SPIRIT, a conversation with Petra Cortright Oct 07, 2024

https://www.petracortright.com/
https://solos.gallery/artists/petra-cortright
https://verse.works/petra-cortright

Shape goes live, private sales vs the ethos of the space, is crypto hurting us, Verse's new secondary market and SOLOS fall programme Oct 04, 2024

00:56 - Shape goes live
05:20 - Private sales vs accessibility
17:20 - Should PFPs show up in an art platform’s secondary market? Where’s the line?
25:40 - Is association with crypto and gambling holding the digital art movement back?
39:40 - Mert's tweet
43:50 - Verse rundown & SOLOS fall programme
56:03 - Artist highlights
William Mapan: https://verse.works/william-mapan
Momo: https://deadlyyucca.com
RJ: https://rj16848519.com/about
Jeres - Repetition and Noise: https://highlight.xyz/mint/base:0x8718d8f356FCDcbe6BD359A157A63dB898dC3f53
Yuri_jjjj: https://objkt.com/@yurijjjj
Mert's tweet: https://x.com/0xmert_/status/1840765813021626501?s=46&t=Y0qIYiBAAsy4ea-t-FfRQw

Silk Road run down, competition in the space, Mat Dryhurst's post, is conceptual art a scam? Sep 27, 2024

3:30 - Silk Road run down
7:33 - Collaboration in the space
13:58 - Competing or complementary
23:54 - The issue with a lack of risk
31:02 - The growth of a global scene
38:40 - is conceptual art a scam
49:40 - Verse run down and artist highlights
The Water Museum - Arctic Eggs: https://store.steampowered.com/app/2763670/Arctic_Eggs/
Chia Amisola: https://chia.design/
Ganbrood - Daemonica Syntheticum: https://verse.works/series/daemonica-syntheticum

Bad taste in the space? What is good art? Verse product updates Sep 20, 2024

01:35 - Personal Journeys
17:00 - Bad Taste in the space?
26:00 - Defining good art
33:00 - What is bad art
37:50 - Artist wallets and provenance
42:45 - Verse run down
50:10 - Verse Collect
51:49 - Artist highlights
Tù.úk’z - Escapes: https://verse.works/series/escapes-tuukz
PerfectLoop - https://objkt.com/@perfectloop
Jess MacCormak: https://daily.xyz/artist/jess-mac