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    True Crime

    The Wedding Scammer

    Have you ever been scammed? 
    In The Ringer’s first true crime podcast, host Justin Sayles tracks a mysterious figure who once wronged him. A man with a lot of aliases, a lot of failed businesses, and a trail of victims. Justin follows him through a sham media company, a series of ruined weddings, and beyond, trying to find answers. 
    The police can’t offer any help—but maybe we can. 
    From Spotify and The Ringer, this is ‘The Wedding Scammer.’ A story in seven parts.

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    8. The Arrest Sep 02, 2025
    Show notes

    We are back with a big update: Carl Butcho has been arrested. Join Justin for one more trip down the rabbit hole as we explore how we got here and what closure looks like.

    Host: Justin Sayles

    Producers: Vikram Patel, Jade Whaley, Kaya McMullen, Devon Baroldi, Justin Sayles

    Executive Producers: Sean Fennessey, Juliet Litman, Mallory Rubin

    Copy Editing: Jack McCluskey

    Fact-checking: Dan Comer

    Sound Design, Mixing, and Mastering: Scott Somerville

    Video Production: John Richter

    Art Direction: David Shoemaker

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    7. Fool Me Twice Nov 28, 2023
    Show notes

    In the final episode, we hear from the Wedding Scammer himself. A lot.


    Host: Justin Sayles

    Producers: Jade Whaley, Mike Wargon, Bobby Wagner, Amanda Dobbins, Justin Sayles, and Vikram Patel

    Original Music: Justin Catoni of 13th Ward Social Club

    Sound Design: Bobby Wagner

    Mixing and Mastering: Scott Somerville

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    6. Undercover Cowboy Nov 21, 2023
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    Justin confronts Carl Butcho, a.k.a. Lance Miller. And he records the whole thing.


    Host: Justin Sayles

    Producers: Jade Whaley, Mike Wargon, Bobby Wagner, Amanda Dobbins, Justin Sayles, and Vikram Patel

    Original Music: Justin Catoni of 13th Ward Social Club

    Sound Design: Bobby Wagner

    Mixing and Mastering: Scott Somerville

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    5. All My Scammers Live In Texas Nov 14, 2023
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    The Wedding Scammer resurfaces. Carl Butcho is still in the wedding business, and he's got a new alias. But a few discerning Texans manage to connect the dots, and find their way to Justin.


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    Host: Justin Sayles

    Producers: Jade Whaley, Mike Wargon, Bobby Wagner, Amanda Dobbins, Justin Sayles, and Vikram Patel

    Original Music: Justin Catoni of 13th Ward Social Club

    Sound Design: Bobby Wagner

    Mixing and Mastering: Scott Somerville

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    4. Coal Country Nov 07, 2023
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    Michael, Mark, Lawrence: What is the Wedding Scammer's real name? Turns out it's none of the above. In this episode, Justin gets the answer, takes a trip, and tells you an origin story.


    Host: Justin Sayles

    Producers: Jade Whaley, Mike Wargon, Bobby Wagner, Amanda Dobbins, Justin Sayles, and Vikram Patel

    Original Music: Justin Catoni of 13th Ward Social Club

    Sound Design: Bobby Wagner

    Mixing and Mastering: Scott Somerville

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    3. The Fake Name Game Oct 31, 2023
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    The Wedding Scammer hits the road, and lands in the Bay Area. However, there’s a catch: He’s no longer going by Michael Esposito. But while he’s got a new name, some things haven’t changed. And the cost of knowing him has gone up.


    Host: Justin Sayles

    Producers: Jade Whaley, Mike Wargon, Bobby Wagner, Amanda Dobbins, Justin Sayles, and Vikram Patel

    Original Music: Justin Catoni of 13th Ward Social Club

    Sound Design: Bobby Wagner

    Mixing and Mastering: Scott Somerville

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    2. The Crooked Caterer Oct 24, 2023
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    Michael Esposito has shut down Newsaratti and moved on to a new hustle: the wedding industry. Over the next few years, a handful of couples in Los Angeles will sue him, saying he did the unthinkable: ruined their weddings and kept the money.


    Host: Justin Sayles

    Producers: Jade Whaley, Mike Wargon, Bobby Wagner, Amanda Dobbins, Justin Sayles, and Vikram Patel

    Original Music: Justin Catoni of 13th Ward Social Club

    Sound Design: Bobby Wagner

    Mixing and Mastering: Scott Somerville

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    1. The Glass Castle Oct 17, 2023
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    A drive across the country. A fresh start. An unexpected job offer. What could go wrong?

    In this episode, Justin tells the story of how he stumbled into the orbit of a con man.


    Host: Justin Sayles

    Producers: Jade Whaley, Mike Wargon, Bobby Wagner, Amanda Dobbins, Justin Sayles, and Vikram Patel

    Original Music: Justin Catoni of 13th Ward Social Club

    Sound Design: Bobby Wagner

    Mixing and Mastering: Scott Somerville

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    Introducing ‘The Wedding Scammer’ Oct 11, 2023
    Show notes

    Jump down the rabbit hole with host Justin Sayles as he tracks a scammer and tries to get some answers—for himself, and so many others.

    This is ‘The Wedding Scammer,’ The Ringer’s first true crime podcast. A story in seven parts, starting October 17.


    Video Trailer: Cory McConnell

    Original Music: Justin Catoni of 13th Ward Social Club

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