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    The Thomas Jefferson Hour

    The Thomas Jefferson Hour features conversations with Thomas Jefferson, the third President of the United States, as portrayed by the award-winning humanities scholar and author, Clay Jenkinson. The weekly discussion features Mr. Jefferson’s views on events of his time, contemporary issues facing America and answers to questions submitted by his many listeners. To ask President Jefferson a question, visit our website at jeffersonhour.com

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    #1540 The Jeffersonians in Power Mar 27, 2023

    This week, Clay Jenkinson has a conversation with Dr. Kevin Gutzman, Professor of History at Western Connecticut State University and author of The Jeffersonians: The Visionary Presidencies of Jefferson, Madison, and Monroe. Jefferson, James Madison, and James Monroe held the presidency between 1800 and 1824. These three close friends and Virginia neighbors pursued a common set of public holidays. They managed to extinguish the Federalist Party and by the time Monroe began his second term, a Boston newspaper called it The Era of Good Feelings. Clay and Dr. Gutzman explore the friendship and political collaboration between Jefferson and the greatest of his proteges, James Madison, and the ways in which poor Mr. Madison had to talk Jefferson off the ledge of some of his wilder ideas about America.

    Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about Clay's cultural tours and retreats at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Check out our merch.

    You can find Clay's books on our website, along with a list of his favorite books on Jefferson, Lewis and Clark, and other topics.

    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted and portrayed by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1539 The Alcoholic Republic Mar 20, 2023

    Guest host Catherine Jenkinson interviews Mr. Jefferson about addiction, alcoholism, and depression in the early American republic. Jefferson explains that there were no treatment programs in his time for either mental illness or addiction. The insane asylums of the time were unspeakably horrible. Jefferson was well aware of the problems of alcoholism, because his protege Meriwether Lewis descended into substance abuse in the aftermath of the Lewis and Clark Expedition; and Jefferson's grandson-in-law, Charles Bankhead, was a drunk who physically abused his wife Anne Cary Randolph Bankhead. Jefferson's own consumption habits open the program with his usual position that moderate consumption of wine is the right approach to life.

    Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about Clay's cultural tours and retreats at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Check out our merch.

    You can find Clay's books on our website, along with a list of his favorite books on Jefferson, Lewis and Clark, and other topics.

    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted and portrayed by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1538 Explaining the Marshall Trilogy Mar 13, 2023

    This week, former U.S. Attorney Tim Purdon joins Clay Jenkinson to explain the famous "Marshall Trilogy," the three landmark Supreme Court cases issued by Chief Justice John Marshall between 1823 and 1832. The first, Johnson v. M'Intosh (1823) incorporated the Doctrine of Discovery into American law. The second, Cherokee Nation v. Georgia (1831) declared that Native tribes represent "domestic dependent nations," more sovereign that U.S. states, but not as sovereign as, say, Canada or France. The U.S. government has a sacred trust relationship with the Native peoples of America. And the third, Worcester v. Georgia (1832), says individual states cannot intrude on the sovereignty of Native American nations--only the national government of the United States can do that. And, Tim provides an analysis of White-Indian relations on the northern plains today.

    Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about Clay's cultural tours and retreats at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Check out our merch.

    You can find Clay's books on our website, along with a list of his favorite books on Jefferson, Lewis and Clark, and other topics.

    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted and portrayed by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1537 Thinking about Statues and Monuments Mar 06, 2023

    This week, Clay Jenkinson and Dr. Lindsay Chervinsky discuss the movement to remove statues and monuments across the United States. Each of them offers a list of questions that should be asked whenever a monument is under fire, and things we should all keep in mind as we proceed. They highlight the George Mason monument at George Mason University, the Roosevelt statue group at the American Museum of Natural History, the Jefferson exhibit at the National Museum of African American History and Culture, and Stone Mountain in Georgia.

    Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about Clay's cultural tours and retreats at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Check out our merch.

    You can find Clay's books on our website, along with a list of his favorite books on Jefferson, Lewis and Clark, and other topics.

    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted and portrayed by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1536 Ten Things: Jefferson and John Marshall Feb 27, 2023

    This week Clay Jenkinson has a conversation with regular guest Lindsay Chervinsky about the first great Chief Justice of the United States John Marshall. Marshall was a Virginia Federalist, persuaded by George Washington to run for Congress and appointed Chief Justice by President John Adams in early 1801. Topics include the mutual distrust of Jefferson and his third cousin Marshall, Marshall's monumental achievement in interpreting the U.S. Constitution, Marshall and slavery, and Marshall and Native American sovereignty. Plus, Lindsay talks about her new book on how Americans have mourned their Presidents.

    Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about Clay's cultural tours and retreats at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Check out our merch.

    You can find Clay's books on our website, along with a list of his favorite books on Jefferson, Lewis and Clark, and other topics.

    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted and portrayed by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1535 Forgotten Founder Feb 21, 2023

    This week Clay Jenkinson and Joseph Ellis answer a listener question comparing the events of January 6th with the Boston Tea Party and go on to discuss an almost forgotten founding father - Henry Laurens. Laurens was a merchant, slave trader, and rice planter from South Carolina who became a political leader during the Revolutionary War. He was captured at sea by the British and imprisoned for several years in the Tower of London.

    Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about Clay's cultural tours and retreats at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Check out our merch.

    You can find Clay's books on our website, along with a list of his favorite books on Jefferson, Lewis and Clark, and other topics.

    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted and portrayed by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1534 Alexander Hamilton and the U.S. Constitution Feb 13, 2023

    A conversation with retired Lt. Colonel Hal Bidlack, a former political science professor who is one of the nation’s top Alexander Hamilton impersonators. Our focus this week is Hamilton’s role in the constitutional convention of 1787. Did he really give a six hour speech in which he called for the president to serve for life, senators for life, and governors to be appointed by the national executive? Did Hamilton call the constitution a shilly shally thing, a thing of milk and water? If so, why did he write some of the most brilliant installments of the famous Federalist Papers, which as much as anything else convinced the skeptical American people to ratify the new constitution? And how exactly did Hamilton and Jefferson come to blows over the interpretation of the Constitution?

    Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about Clay's cultural tours and retreats at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Check out our merch.

    You can find Clay's books on our website, along with a list of his favorite books on Jefferson, Lewis and Clark, and other topics.

    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted and portrayed by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1533 A Conversation with Hamilton Scholar Hal Bidlack Feb 07, 2023

    In this episode, Clay Jenkinson visits with Alexander Hamilton scholar Hal Bidlack exploring the character of Hamilton, his rags to riches story, his essential friendship with George Washington, but also his self-destructive prickliness about his honor. The wide-ranging conversation inevitably leads to the dueling grounds of Wehaukon, New Jersey, where on July 11, 1804, the sitting vice president of the United States killed the former Secretary of the Treasury? They attempt to figure out why John Adams drove Hamilton to distraction. Was Hamilton in love with his wife’s sister? Hal says no. Bidlack is a former professor of political science at the US Air Force Academy.

    Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about Clay's cultural tours and retreats at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Check out our merch.

    You can find Clay's books on our website, along with a list of his favorite books on Jefferson, Lewis and Clark, and other topics.

    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted and portrayed by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1532 The Enlightenment in 2022: A Progress Report Jan 31, 2023

    The Jefferson Hour's Enlightenment correspondent David Nicandri, author of three books and formerly the director of the Washington State Historical Society, discusses the current state of the Enlightenment with host Clay Jenkinson. The Enlightenment (1680-1826) with its faith in progress, science, reason, and the modest perfectibility of humanity, has been under assault by the academic elites for many years. Jenkinson and Nicandri begin by defining the principles of the Enlightenment and then assessing its current state in a time of worldwide disillusionment. Topics include the trail, imprisonment, and release of Brittney Griner, the January 6 Committee's report, and the innovations and discoveries of science and technology in 2022.

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    Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about Clay's cultural tours and retreats at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Check out our merch.

    You can find Clay's books on our website, along with a list of his favorite books on Jefferson, Lewis and Clark, and other topics.

    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted and portrayed by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1531 The Return Journey of Lewis and Clark Jan 25, 2023

    David Nicandri and Clay Jenkinson discuss the return journey of Lewis and Clark in 1806. Nicandri is the author of the acclaimed book, River of Promise: Lewis and Clark on the Columbia. Both scholars of the Lewis and Clark Expedition, Clay and David explore the challenges of getting the Corps of Discovery back from the Pacific coast to St. Louis. The men were not in great physical or mental condition in March 1806. The expedition had distributed all of its "Indian gifts" on the outbound journey. The expedition was thus essentially bankrupt with almost 4,000 miles to trek across the American West. Nicandri believes Captain Meriwether Lewis was having a slow motion nervous breakdown on the return journey.

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    Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about Clay's cultural tours and retreats at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Check out our merch.

    You can find Clay's books on our website, along with a list of his favorite books on Jefferson, Lewis and Clark, and other topics.

    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted and portrayed by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1530 A Conversation with Jeffersonian Gardener Pat Brodowski Jan 17, 2023

    This week on the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Clay Jenkinson visits with Pat Brodowski, formerly the head gardener at Thomas Jefferson's Monticello. Pat explains how she found her way to Monticello, what she learned about Thomas Jefferson from working every day in his extensive garden, and how she is occupying her time now as a retiree. Plus, Pat gives tips to our listeners about how to grow something in the next year.

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    Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about Clay's cultural tours and retreats at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Check out our merch.

    You can find Clay's books on our website, along with a list of his favorite books on Jefferson, Lewis and Clark, and other topics.

    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted and portrayed by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1529 American History with Lindsay Chervinsky (Part Two) Jan 10, 2023

    This week on the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Clay Jenkinson and Lindsay Chervinsky continue their discussion prompted by a letter from a teacher in Iowa who asks what they think are the ten most important American historical events she should teach to her students.

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    Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about Clay's cultural tours and retreats at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Check out our merch.

    You can find Clay's books on our website, along with a list of his favorite books on Jefferson, Lewis and Clark, and other topics.

    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted and portrayed by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1528 American History with Lindsay Chervinsky (Part One) Jan 03, 2023

    This week on the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Clay Jenkinson and Lindsay Chervinsky respond to a letter from a teacher in Iowa who asks what they think are the ten most important American historical events she should teach to her students.

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    Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about Clay's cultural tours and retreats at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Check out our merch.

    You can find Clay's books on our website, along with a list of his favorite books on Jefferson, Lewis and Clark, and other topics.

    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted and portrayed by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1527 Year in Review Dec 27, 2022

    This week on the Thomas Jefferson Hour, we look back and listen to excerpts from some of our favorite conversations from 2022, and wish all our listeners a very happy New Year.

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    Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about Clay's cultural tours and retreats at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Check out our merch.

    You can find Clay's books on our website, along with a list of his favorite books on Jefferson, Lewis and Clark, and other topics.

    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted and portrayed by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1526 Christmas 2022 Dec 20, 2022

    This week on the Thomas Jefferson Hour, we have a virtual gathering (via Zoom) with some of our favorite friends and contributors to the Jefferson Hour. Brad Crisler debuts a new song written and gifted to the show.

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    Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about Clay's cultural tours and retreats at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Check out our merch.

    You can find Clay's books on our website, along with a list of his favorite books on Jefferson, Lewis and Clark, and other topics.

    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted and portrayed by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1525 Both Sides Now Dec 13, 2022

    Clay Jenkinson responds to listener comments and questions. He speculates on how Jefferson would have responded to social media — spoiler alert — Clay says he would have been great at it, and he guesses how Jefferson would have responded to some of the social phenomena of our time. Clay also responds to a letter from a teacher in Iowa who says it is important to teach all sides of history.

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    Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about Clay's cultural tours and retreats at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Check out our merch.

    You can find Clay's books on our website, along with a list of his favorite books on Jefferson, Lewis and Clark, and other topics.

    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted and portrayed by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1524 Past Present Future with Joseph Ellis Dec 06, 2022

    Clay Jenkinson and the historian Joseph Ellis have a wide-ranging conversation beginning with Jefferson’s failing reputation, and ending with both of them sharing their thoughts on the future. They also discuss our recent elections and the need for young and vibrant new leaders in America.

    Send us a message on our website.

    Books and articles mentioned on this episode include: "Hear what the founders are saying," an op-ed in the Los Angeles Times by Joseph Ellis, and Passionate Sage by Joseph Ellis from W. W. Norton

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    Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about Clay's cultural tours and retreats at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Check out our merch.

    You can find Clay's books on our website, along with a list of his favorite books on Jefferson, Lewis and Clark, and other topics.

    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted and portrayed by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1523 Core Principles Nov 29, 2022

    President Jefferson shares his core principles. During the out-of-character segment, Clay Jenkinson addresses some of the extreme contradictions between what Jefferson said he believed in and what he actually did.

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    Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about Clay's cultural tours and retreats at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Check out our merch.

    You can find Clay's books on our website, along with a list of his favorite books on Jefferson, Lewis and Clark, and other topics.

    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted and portrayed by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1522 Thankful Nov 22, 2022

    Clay Jenkinson and host David Swenson talk about the Thanksgiving holiday this week. They discuss the history of Thanksgiving and why Jefferson didn’t endorse it, and also take time to recognize how grateful they both are for the listeners of the Jefferson Hour.

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    Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about Clay's cultural tours and retreats at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Check out our merch.

    You can find Clay's books on our website, along with a list of his favorite books on Jefferson, Lewis and Clark, and other topics.

    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted and portrayed by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1521 The Day After the Election with Lindsay Chervinsky Nov 15, 2022

    On November 9th, the day after the midterms, Clay Jenkinson and Dr. Lindsay Chervinsky share their early impressions and insights on what occurred during the 2022 election. Most administrations lose many congressional seats in off-year elections, but it didn’t happen this year. They speculate on what message this sends to both political parties and discuss issues that affected the results.

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    Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about Clay's cultural tours and retreats at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Check out our merch.

    You can find Clay's books on our website, along with a list of his favorite books on Jefferson, Lewis and Clark, and other topics.

    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted and portrayed by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1520 History Rhymes Nov 08, 2022

    President Thomas Jefferson shares his thoughts on the proper role of government and the election of 1800. In that year, members of the Federalist Party encouraged a movement to deny Jefferson the presidency through a means of delaying the transition of power and keeping then President John Adams in office, despite the fact that Jefferson had won the Electoral College vote.

    Mentioned on this episode: Jefferson's Second Revolution: The Election Crisis of 1800 and the Triumph of Republicanism by Susan Dunn

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    Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about Clay's cultural tours and retreats at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Check out our merch.

    You can find Clay's books on our website, along with a list of his favorite books on Jefferson, Lewis and Clark, and other topics.

    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted and portrayed by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1519 The Election of 1800 with Lindsay Chervinsky Nov 01, 2022

    Lindsay Chervinsky and Clay Jenkinson discuss the election of 1800 in which Thomas Jefferson and Aaron Burr tied with 73 electoral votes each. This resulted in the vote being decided in the House of Representatives after 36 ballots. They discuss Federalist plans to delay the process and keep John Adams in office, along with threats of troops being used to contest the election.

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    Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about Clay's cultural tours and retreats at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Check out our merch.

    You can find Clay's books on our website, along with a list of his favorite books on Jefferson, Lewis and Clark, and other topics. Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1518 Back From France Oct 25, 2022

    Clay Jenkinson has returned from his cultural tour in France and speaks to us this week about Jefferson’s time there and the sites in France that were visited. Clay also shares insight on the relationships between Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin and John and Abigail Adams.

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    Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about Clay's cultural tours and retreats at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Check out our merch.

    You can find Clay's books on our website, along with a list of his favorite books on Jefferson, Lewis and Clark, and other topics. Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1517 Wall of Separation Oct 18, 2022

    This week on the Thomas Jefferson Hour, President Jefferson returns to discuss the famous letter he wrote in 1802 to the Danbury Baptists association saying it was not the duty of government to do anything that might be interpreted as the establishment of religion. In this letter, he used the famous phrase "wall of separation between church and state.” Jefferson explains that the first amendment of the Constitution states that Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion.

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    Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about Clay's cultural tours and retreats at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Check out our merch.

    You can find Clay's books on our website, along with a list of his favorite books on Jefferson, Lewis and Clark, and other topics. Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1516 Books and Responsibilities Oct 11, 2022

    This week, David speaks with President Thomas Jefferson as portrayed by humanities scholar Clay S. Jenkinson. Jefferson responds to listener questions about banning books, as well as citizens' rights and responsibilities.

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    Clay will be performing as Theodore Roosevelt in Downers Grove, IL on October 22nd.

    Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about Clay's cultural tours and retreats at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Check out our merch.

    You can find Clay's books on our website, along with a list of his favorite books on Jefferson, Lewis and Clark, and other topics. Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1515 Ten Things About Jefferson's Daughters with Lindsay Chervinsky Oct 04, 2022

    Dr. Lindsay Chervinsky and Clay Jenkinson discuss Jefferson's daughters. Thomas Jefferson was highly expectant of their behavior and let them know it through a series of letters. When he died in bankruptcy, his daughter Martha was left nearly penniless and had to deal with the aftermath of Jefferson's poor money management.

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    Clay will be performing as Theodore Roosevelt in Downers Grove, IL on October 22nd.

    Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about Clay's cultural tours and retreats at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Check out our merch.

    You can find Clay's books on our website, along with a list of his favorite books on Jefferson, Lewis and Clark, and other topics. Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1514 Cultural Tours, Jefferson's France, and Joseph Whitehouse Sep 27, 2022

    This week, we discuss Clay Jenkinson's upcoming cultural tour through Thomas Jefferson’s France stopping in Paris, to Nice along the Cote d’Azur, the French Alps to the village of Saorge and continue in Jefferson’s footsteps with stops in Orange, Pont du Gard, and finally Nimes and the Maison Carrée, which Jefferson called “the most precious morsel of antiguity.” Jefferson said every man’s first country is of course his own, but every rational man’s second country must be France.

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    Clay will be performing as Theodore Roosevelt in Downers Grove, IL on October 22nd.

    Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about Clay's cultural tours and retreats at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Check out our merch.

    You can find Clay's books on our website, along with a list of his favorite books on Jefferson, Lewis and Clark, and other topics. Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1513 Historians at the White House with Lindsay Chervinsky Sep 20, 2022

    In August, President Biden met with a group of historians at the White House who, for nearly two hours, provided historical perspectives as well as their concerns about the dangerous state of democracy in the United States and the world. Clay Jenkinson and Lindsay Chervinsky discuss this meeting and share some of the things they would have said to the President.

    Clay will be performing as Theodore Roosevelt in Downers Grove, IL on October 22nd.

    Subscribe to the Thomas Jefferson Hour on YouTube.

    Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about Clay's cultural tours and retreats at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Check out our merch.

    You can find Clay's books on our website, along with a list of his favorite books on Jefferson, Lewis and Clark, and other topics. Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1512 Remembering David McCullough with Joseph Ellis Sep 13, 2022

    We're joined by longtime contributor to the show, author Joseph Ellis. He and Clay Jenkinson discuss the passing of the noted historian David McCullough. They also discuss the Constitution and what might happen if it is ever re-written.

    Clay will be performing as Theodore Roosevelt in Downers Grove, IL on October 22nd.

    Subscribe to the Thomas Jefferson Hour on YouTube.

    Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about Clay's cultural tours and retreats at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Check out our merch.

    You can find Clay's books on our website, along with a list of his favorite books on Jefferson, Lewis and Clark, and other topics. Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1511 The Densmore Repatriation Project Sep 06, 2022

    Clay Jenkinson speaks with David Swenson about the ethnomusicologist Frances Densmore and her work with the Lakota in the Dakotas beginning in 1911. David has spent the last year working on The Densmore Repatriation Project, recataloging and restoring her wax cylinder recordings.

    Subscribe to The Densmore Repatriation Project on YouTube to hear the songs and interviews.

    At Standing Rock in 1911, Frances Densmore met with dozens of tribal elders and recorded traditional songs on wax cylinder. Densmore documented this work in her book Teton Sioux Music which became a touchstone for learning about Lakota/Dakota culture. The Densmore Repatriation Project reintroduces the songs with new recordings made by contemporary Native singers.

    Clay will be performing as Theodore Roosevelt in Downers Grove, IL on October 22nd.

    Subscribe to the Thomas Jefferson Hour on YouTube.

    Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about Clay's cultural tours and retreats at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Check out our merch.

    You can find Clay's books on our website, along with a list of his favorite books on Jefferson, Lewis and Clark, and other topics. Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1510 Ten Things About the 14th Amendment Aug 30, 2022

    Dr. Lindsay Chervinsky and Clay Jenkinson discuss the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution.

    Clay will be performing as Theodore Roosevelt in Downers Grove, IL on October 22nd.

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    Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about Clay's cultural tours and retreats at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Check out our merch.

    You can find Clay's books on our website, along with a list of his favorite books on Jefferson, Lewis and Clark, and other topics. Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1509 A Constitution for the Living with Beau Breslin Aug 23, 2022

    Clay Jenkinson speaks with Beau Breslin, author of A Constitution for the Living: Imagining How Five Generations of Americans Would Rewrite the Nation's Fundamental Law. The book examines an idea that Jefferson shared with James Madison in 1789: "What would America's Constitutions have looked like if each generation wrote its own?"

    Books mentioned on this episode.

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    Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about Clay's cultural tours and retreats at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Check out our merch.

    You can find Clay's books on our website, along with a list of his favorite books on Jefferson, Lewis and Clark, and other topics. Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1508 Inconsistencies with David Nicandri Aug 16, 2022

    Clay Jenkinson and David Nicandri discuss the Enlightenment and Jefferson's many inconsistencies.

    Nicandri is the author of River of Promise: Lewis and Clark on the Columbia and Captain Cook Rediscovered: Voyaging to the Icy Latitudes.

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    Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about Clay's cultural tours and retreats at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Check out our merch.

    You can find Clay's books on our website, along with a list of his favorite books on Jefferson, Lewis and Clark, and other topics. Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1507 Ten Things About the Bill of Rights Aug 09, 2022

    Dr. Lindsay Chervinsky and Clay Jenkinson discuss the Bill of Rights.

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    Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about Clay's cultural tours and retreats at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Check out our merch.

    You can find Clay's books on our website, along with a list of his favorite books on Jefferson, Lewis and Clark, and other topics. Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1506 Shackleton with David Nicandri Aug 02, 2022

    Clay Jenkinson welcomes back David Nicandri for a discussion about Sir Ernest Henry Shackleton, the explorer who led three British expeditions to the Antarctic. They also talk about Thomas Jefferson's influence on exploration. Nicandri is the author of River of Promise: Lewis and Clark on the Columbia and Captain Cook Rediscovered: Voyaging to the Icy Latitudes.

    Books mentioned on this episode.

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    #1505 Thad's Ten Things Jul 26, 2022

    Clay Jenkinson and Lindsay Chervinsky respond questions from a listener about the paradoxes and inconsistencies of Thomas Jefferson’s life, including his ownership of enslaved people.

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    #1504 Talking Philadelphia Jul 19, 2022

    In June, Clay Jenkinson was invited to give an endowed lecture on the humanities at the Library Company of Philadelphia, America's first successful lending library and oldest cultural institution. It was founded in 1731 by Benjamin Franklin. We discuss that lecture and Alexander von Humboldt, as well as the amazing artifacts Clay saw while in Philadelphia.

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    #1503 The Opposite of Apathy with Dr. Lindsay Chervinsky Jul 12, 2022

    Lindsay Chervinsky and Clay Jenkinson discuss current events including recent Supreme Court decisions and the Second Amendment.

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    #1502 Ten Things About the Supreme Court Jul 05, 2022

    Dr. Lindsay Chervinsky and Clay Jenkinson present ten things about the Supreme Court.

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    #1501 4th of July Jun 28, 2022

    We are joined this week by three friends and contributors to The Thomas Jefferson Hour: Brad Crisler, Lindsay Chervinsky and Joseph Ellis for a rousing conversation about Independence Day.

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    #1500 Vince from Uvalde Jun 21, 2022

    Recently the Thomas Jefferson Hour was contacted by long term listener Vince DiPiazza, the city manager of Uvalde, Texas. Vince wrote, “My community is broken, and we have to figure out now how to come together, pick up the pieces, and try to make some good come out of this terrible event.” Clay Jenkinson invited Vince to join us in conversation and speak about the character of the community of Uvalde and his thoughts about what can be done to avoid tragedies like this in the future.

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    #1499 The Enlightenment with Joseph Ellis Jun 14, 2022

    Clay Jenkinson and Joe Ellis discuss the Enlightenment, a European intellectual movement that happened between 1680 and 1840 that believed in rationality, science, the rights of man and the possibility that humans could govern themselves. Joseph Ellis says that the very basis of the Enlightenment was truth and truth seeking.

    Mentioned on this episode: PBS: The Roosevelts: An Intimate History, PBS: Ben Franklin

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    #1498 The Cost of War Jun 07, 2022

    David Swenson speaks with President Jefferson about the cost of the American Revolutionary War, the aid France provided to America, and Jefferson's position on aiding other nations in their struggles for freedom and liberty.

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    #1497 Ten Things About Theodore Roosevelt (Part Two) May 31, 2022

    In the second of two shows devoted to Theodore Roosevelt, Clay Jenkinson and Lindsay Chervinsky discuss Roosevelt’s accomplishments and his shortcomings, including his collection of White House pets, his children, and how much the press enjoyed covering his presidency.

    Mentioned on this episode: The Best and Worst Presidential Cabinets in U.S. History by Lindsay M. Chervinsky for The Great Courses

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    #1496 Ten Things About Theodore Roosevelt (Part One) May 24, 2022

    Clay Jenkinson and Lindsay Chervinsky discuss Theodore Roosevelt’s accomplishments and his shortcomings, including his great contributions to conservation and government reforms as well as the fact that he was considered a jingoist, an imperialist and at times a eugenicist and racist.

    Mentioned on this episode: The Roosevelt Country

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    #1495 National Bank May 17, 2022

    David speaks with President Jefferson about the "original argument" between Thomas Jefferson and Alexander Hamilton concerning whether or not the United States should have a national bank. Jefferson felt this was in a sense unconstitutional and Hamilton believed we needed a flexible constitution.

    This program originally aired in June of 2017.

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    #1494 Ten Things About John Jay May 10, 2022

    Dr. Lindsay Chervinsky and Clay Jenkinson discuss John Jay, the American statesman, patriot, diplomat, Founding Father, abolitionist, and signatory of the Treaty of Paris in 1783. Jay was a proponent of strong, centralized government, which at times put him at odds with Thomas Jefferson. Jay worked to ratify the United States Constitution in New York in 1788 and was a co-author of The Federalist Papers along with Alexander Hamilton and James Madison.

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    Mentioned on this episode: PBS: Benjamin Franklin by Ken Burns

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    #1493 Plato's Republic May 03, 2022

    David Swenson speaks with President Jefferson about Plato’s Republic and American democracy. This program originally aired in 2016.

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    Mentioned on this episode: "Democracies End When They Are Too Democratic" by Andrew Sullivan

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    #1492 Ten Things About King George III Apr 26, 2022

    Dr. Lindsay Chervinsky and Clay Jenkinson discuss King George III and his effect on the American Revolution. According to the British historian George Otto Trevelyan, the King was determined to "keep the rebels harassed, anxious, and poor, until the day when, by a natural and inevitable process, discontent and disappointment were converted into penitence and remorse."

    Mentioned on this episode: "George III by Andrew Roberts — not so mad after all" by Lindsay Chervinsky

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    #1491 American Character Apr 19, 2022

    David Swenson speaks with President Jefferson about the American character, both as citizens and as a nation. This program originally aired in May of 2017.

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    #1490 Ten Things About Benjamin Rush Apr 12, 2022

    Dr. Lindsay Chervinsky and Clay Jenkinson discuss Dr. Benjamin Rush, a Founding Father who signed the Declaration of Independence. Rush was the force behind the reconciliation correspondence between Thomas Jefferson and John Adams which began in 1812.

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    #1489 The Field of Blood with Joanne Freeman Apr 05, 2022

    Clay Jenkinson welcomes Yale Professor of History Joanne Freeman for a one on one conversation about her new book, The Field of Blood: Violence in Congress and the Road to Civil War. In the book, Freeman writes about the physical violence on the floor of the US Congress in the decades before the Civil War. Legislative sessions were often punctuated by mortal threats, canings, flipped desks, and all-out slugfests.

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    #1488 Ten Things About Benjamin Franklin Mar 29, 2022

    Dr. Lindsay Chervinsky and Clay Jenkinson discuss Benjamin Franklin. When Franklin was asked what the U.S. Constitution would provide, he answered, "A republic, if you can keep it."

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    #1487 In Pursuit of Jefferson with Derek Baxter Mar 22, 2022

    This week on the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Clay Jenkinson welcomes the author Derek Baxter to discuss Baxter’s recently published book, In Pursuit of Jefferson: Traveling through Europe with the Most Perplexing Founding Father. To write the book, Baxter spent eight years doing research and traveling to sites in Europe that Jefferson visited.

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    #1486 Ten Things About Crossing the Delaware Mar 15, 2022

    Clay Jenkinson and Lindsay Chervinsky discuss ten things about an event rather than an individual: the crossing of the Delaware River by George Washington and the Continental Army in a surprise attack on Christmas night, 1776.

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    #1485 HMS Endeavour with David Nicandri Mar 08, 2022

    David Nicandri joins us to discuss the possible discovery of the HMS Endeavour, Captain James Cook's famous research vessel. The ship was used by Cook on his first voyage of discovery to the Pacific Ocean between 1768 and 1771.

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    #1484 Ten Things About James Monroe Mar 01, 2022

    Clay Jenkinson and Lindsay Chervinsky discuss James Monroe, America’s fifth president. He is perhaps best remembered for issuing the Monroe Doctrine, a policy of opposing European colonialism in the Americas while asserting America’s dominance in the western hemisphere. Over the course of his political career, Monroe served as a U.S. Senator, Secretary of State, governor of Virginia, and ambassador to Britain and France.

    Mentioned on this episode: The Cabinet: George Washington and the Creation of an American Institution, The Last King of America: The Misunderstood Reign of George III

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    #1483 Jason Miyares: Attorney General of Virginia Feb 22, 2022

    Jason Miyares became the 48th Attorney General of Virginia on January 15, 2022. Clay Jenkinson spoke with him shortly before he took office to discuss a number of subjects including Jefferson’s philosophical importance to America, his own thoughts on public service, and the story of his mother’s immigration to America in 1965.

    Mentioned on this episode: @JasonMiyaresVA, Democracy in America by Alexis De Tocqueville

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    #1482 Dead Pool with James L. Powell Feb 15, 2022

    Clay welcomes James L. Powell, author of Dead Pool: Lake Powell, Global Warming, and the Future of Water in the West. They discuss whether there will be enough water to sustain the great desert cities of of the American Southwest, and some citizens reluctance to accept scientific facts about global warming. Powell explains his alarm about the urgent threat saying that it will come not from the rising of the seas, but from the falling of the reservoirs.

    Mentioned on this episode: Dead Pool: Lake Powell, Global Warming, and the Future of Water in the West by James L. Powell, jamespowell.org, “Down the River with Thoreau” by Edward Abbey.

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    #1481 Bet the Farm with Beth Hoffman Feb 08, 2022

    Clay Jenkinson is joined by Beth Hoffman, author of Bet the Farm: The Dollars and Sense of Growing Food in America. Hoffman and her husband left successful careers in San Francisco for a new life as farmers in Iowa.

    Mentioned on this episode: Bet the Farm: The Dollars and Sense of Growing Food in America, Beth Hoffman's blog, @BethFoodAg

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    #1480 Ten Things About Lafayette Feb 01, 2022

    Lindsay Chervinsky joins us to discuss the Marquis de Lafayette. Lafayette was only 19 years old when he arrived in America, and had no combat experience, and yet his service helped win the American Revolution. Inspired by the ideals of the American Revolution, and with the help of Jefferson, he wrote the Declaration of the Rights of Man which today remains enshrined in France’s constitution.

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    Mentioned on this episode: Revolutionary Brothers: Thomas Jefferson, the Marquis de Lafayette, and the Friendship That Helped Forge Two Nations by Tom Chaffin, Hero of Two Worlds: The Marquis de Lafayette in the Age of Revolution by Mike Duncan

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    #1479 Hamilton, Adams, Jefferson with Darren Staloff Jan 25, 2022

    Clay is joined by Darren Staloff, the author of Hamilton, Adams, Jefferson: The Politics of Enlightenment and the American Founding. In this incisive book, Staloff writes that America owes its guiding political traditions to three Founding Fathers whose lives embodied the collision of European enlightenment with the founding of America.

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    Mentioned on this episode: Hamilton, Adams, Jefferson: The Politics of Enlightenment and the American Founding by Darren Staloff

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    #1478 Patrick Henry with John Ragosta Jan 18, 2022

    Patrick Henry is often referred to as "the voice of the Revolution." He played a vital role in helping to launch the Revolution and was a leading anti-federalist, but he and Jefferson found themselves in strong disagreement. This week, Clay speaks with John Ragosta, the author of Patrick Henry: Proclaiming a Revolution.

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    Mentioned on this episode: Patrick Henry: Proclaiming a Revolution, @johnragosta

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    #1477 Ten Things About Abigail Adams Jan 11, 2022

    Lindsay Chervinsky joins Clay Jenkinson this week for the next in a series of programs titled “Ten Things”. The conversations center on historical figures from the founding era, and ten things you may or may not know about them. This week: Ten Things about Abigail Adams.

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    Mentioned on this episode: Abigail Adams: A Life by Woody Holton, Adams Family Papers, The “Remember the Ladies” Letter

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    #1476 Henry Laurens and the Tower of London Jan 04, 2022

    This week, a special conversation between the creator of the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Clay Jenkinson, and his daughter Catherine, home from England for the holidays. Among other things, they discuss Henry Laurens, an American Founding Father, a president of the Continental Congress and signatory to the Articles of Confederation who the British held prisoner in the Tower of London.

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    #1475 Happy New Year Dec 28, 2021

    We take a look back at the many conversations we had during this past year. We hear from President Jefferson on a number of subjects, including the events surrounding January 6th, President Jefferson's inauguration, Shays' Rebellion, and hear from Jefferson Hour contributors Lindsay Chervinsky, Pat Brodowski, Beau Wright, Brad Crisler and Joseph Ellis.

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    #1474 Ten Things About Alexander Hamilton Dec 17, 2021

    Lindsay Chervinsky joins Clay Jenkinson this week for the first of a series of programs titled "Ten Things." The conversations center on historical figures from the founding era, and ten things you may or may not know about them.

    You can order Clay's new book at Amazon, Target, Barnes and Noble, or by contacting your independent bookstore. The Language of Cottonwoods is out now through Koehler Books.

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    #1473 Our First Civil War with H.W. Brands Dec 14, 2021

    We present a special conversation between Clay Jenkinson and best-selling author, historian and Pulitzer Prize finalist H. W. Brands. They discuss Brand’s new book, Our First Civil War: Patriots and Loyalists in the American Revolution.

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    Mentioned on this episode: Our First Civil War: Patriots and Loyalists in the American Revolution

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    #1472 November Losses with Joseph Ellis Dec 07, 2021

    This show was recorded on November 22, 2021 with special guest, author Joseph Ellis. We speak about the significance of the date. Then, we answer listener questions about why the British didn’t finish off the Continental Army at the beginning of the American Revolution, and King George’s legacy through British eyes.

    Rest in Peace, Phoebe.

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    #1471 Inn at Meander Nov 30, 2021

    In the spirit of the Thanksgiving holiday, we are joined by three favorite friends of the Jefferson Hour this week: Beau Wright, Pat Brodowski and Brad Crisler.

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    Mentioned on this episode: James Madison: America's First Politician by Jay Cost

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    #1470 James Madison with Jay Cost Nov 23, 2021

    Jay Cost, author of the new book James Madison: America's First Politician, joins Clay Jenkinson this week to discuss the book and share insights on the politics of Madison and Jefferson's time.

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    Mentioned on this episode: James Madison: America's First Politician by Jay Cost

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    #1469 Locked Down Nov 16, 2021

    We speak with President Jefferson about how the Articles of Confederation led to the creation of our Constitution. Jefferson also answers questions from listeners about how money and credit worked during his time, and what the pursuit of happiness meant to him. Later in the show we hear from Lindsay Chervinsky and former ND Senator Heidi Heitkamp.

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    Mentioned on this episode: New York Times: Constitutional Change Will Be Here Sooner Than We Think, Jim Fuglie’s Prairie Blog

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    #1468 Triumph and Tragedy with Joseph Ellis Nov 09, 2021

    Professor Joseph Ellis joins us this week for further discussion about his new book, The Cause: The American Revolution and Its Discontents. For more than two centuries, historians have debated the history of the American Revolution, disputing its roots, its provenance, and above all, its meaning. The Cause is the product of Ellis' lifetime of writing about America’s founding era. The book enlightens and challenges the story of the founding of our nation.

    You can order Clay's new book at Amazon, Target, Barnes and Noble, or by contacting your independent bookstore. The Language of Cottonwoods is out now through Koehler Books.

    Mentioned on this episode: The Cause: The American Revolution and Its Discontents.

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    #1467 Majority Rule with Lindsay Chervinsky Nov 02, 2021

    We welcome back Dr. Lindsay M. Chervinsky to discuss her recent post "How Did the Senate End Up With Supermajority Gridlock?" She and Clay talk about the filibuster and congressional gridlock which they both feel is the product of decades of legislative machinations and not what the Constitution, nor the framers, intended.

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    Mentioned on this episode: "How Did the Senate End Up With Supermajority Gridlock?"

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    #1466 Tread on Me Oct 26, 2021

    President Jefferson answers questions submitted by listeners on a wide range of topics including Monticello, West Point and the military, the three fifths clause, separation of church and state, and James Monroe.

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    #1465 The True Story with Russ Eagle Oct 19, 2021

    The creator of The Thomas Jefferson Hour, Clay Jenkinson, is joined this week by his good friend Russ Eagle. Russ shares the true story of Clay’s recent climb of Mount Whitney and also discusses the works of John Steinbeck. Both Clay and Russ comment on what Thomas Jefferson might have thought of Steinbeck’s work.

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    Mentioned on this episode: Undaunted Courage by Stephen Ambrose

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    #1464 Jouett's Ride Oct 12, 2021

    We spend this week answering listener questions, including one asking us to discuss Jack Jouett. On June 3, 1781, Jouett made a 40-mile "midnight ride" on horseback to Charlottesville, Virginia and gave advance warning to Thomas Jefferson and Virginia legislators that the British were coming. Jouett’s extraordinary ride that night enabled them to escape to safety.

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    Mentioned on this episode: Short Nights of the Shadow Catcher: The Epic Life and Immortal Photographs of Edward Curtis by Timothy Egan

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    #1463 Petrification with David Nicandri Oct 05, 2021

    Clay Jenkinson and David Nicandri discuss Thomas Jefferson’s fascination with the mammoth, and his hope that Lewis and Clark would find living specimens. As it turns out, Nicandri and Jenkinson have an equal fascination. Also discussed is the changing influence written history has on us.

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    Mentioned on this episode: NPR: "Scientists Say They Could Bring Back Woolly Mammoths. But Maybe They Shouldn't," How to Clone a Mammoth by Beth Shapiro, The Ministry for the Future by Kim Stanley Robinson

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    #1462 The Cause with Joseph Ellis Sep 28, 2021

    This week, an in-depth and revealing conversation with Joseph Ellis about his new book, The Cause: The American Revolution and its Discontents, 1773-1783.

    You can order Clay's new book at Amazon, Target, Barnes and Noble, or by contacting your independent bookstore. The Language of Cottonwoods is out now through Koehler Books.

    Mentioned on this episode: Joseph J. Ellis: The Cause: The American Revolution and its Discontents, 1773-1783

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    #1461 Circular to the Heads of Departments Sep 21, 2021

    We speak with President Jefferson about his "Circular to the Heads of Departments," a memo he wrote dated November 6, 1801 which provides insight into Jefferson's governing style. He refers to his cabinet as one of the most harmonious in history, and he closes his letter by writing, "If I had the Universe to choose from, I could not change one of my associates to my better satisfaction."

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    Mentioned on this episode: “Circular to the Heads of Departments”, Jeffersonians in Power: The Rhetoric of Opposition Meets the Realities of Governing

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    #1460 The Enlightenment with Lindsay Chervinsky Sep 14, 2021

    The noted author and historian Dr. Lindsay Chervinsky joins Clay Jenkinson this week for a discussion about the Enlightenment. Together they try to answer the question whether or not it is a self correcting mechanism that will lead us into greater human rights and progress, or is it now in jeopardy in the midst of the explosion of human knowledge.

    You can order Clay's new book at Amazon, Target, Barnes and Noble, or by contacting your independent bookstore. The Language of Cottonwoods is out now through Koehler Books.

    Mentioned on this episode: Lindsay Chervinsky: Why “The Framers Never Intended” is Garbage, lindsaychervinsky.com

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    #1459 Madison's Journals Sep 07, 2021

    When reading Thomas Jefferson’s correspondence, one often sees examples of his belief that the less government, the better. In this week's episode, President Thomas Jefferson discusses the writing of the Constitution and comments on The Journal of the Federal Convention by James Madison. Jefferson wrote, "it may be proved that no society can make a perpetual constitution, or even a perpetual law. The earth belongs always to the living generation."

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    Mentioned on this episode: Lindsay Chervinsky: Why “The Framers Never Intended” is Garbage, 1787: The Grand Convention by Clinton Rossiter, Decision in Philadelphia: The Constitutional Convention of 1787 by Christopher Collier, Miracle at Philadelphia: The Story of the Constitutional Convention, May to September 1787 by Catherine Drinker Bowen, Wikipedia: Notes of Debates in the Federal Convention of 1787

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    #1458 Voting Rights Aug 31, 2021

    Clay Jenkinson is once again joined by the author and historian Joseph Ellis for a program of answering listener questions, including one on Jefferson’s fascination with the wooly mammoth. The primary discussion centers on voting rights during Jefferson’s time and ours.

    You can order Clay's new book at Amazon, Target, Barnes and Noble, or by contacting your independent bookstore. The Language of Cottonwoods is out now through Koehler Books.

    Mentioned on this episode: The Cause: The American Revolution and its Discontents, 1773-1783 by Joseph J. Ellis, Repairing Jefferson's America by Clay S Jenkinson, Fears of a Setting Sun: The Disillusionment of America's Founders by Dennis C. Rasmussen

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    #1457 A Poem from the Garden Aug 24, 2021

    Clay answers listener questions and discusses the photographer Edward Curtis, and David shares a bit of a poem sent to us by Jack Preston, a 94-year-old gardener.

    You can order Clay's new book at Amazon, Target, Barnes and Noble, or by contacting your independent bookstore. The Language of Cottonwoods is out now through Koehler Books.

    Mentioned on this episode: The North American Indian by Edward S. Curtis, Short Nights of the Shadow Catcher: The Epic Life and Immortal Photographs of Edward Curtis by Timothy Egan, A live performance with WGN Radio's John Williams (more details to come), Repairing Jefferson's America, 2021 TR Symposium, Karl Bodmer, Scattered Corn

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    #1456 Written in Your Heart Aug 17, 2021

    Jefferson answers listener questions about his classification systems, and Monticello's gardens and water supply. Jefferson offers advice to a young woman who is trying to be a "good student of liberty." He tells her that "liberty is written in your heart."

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    Mentioned on this episode: Virgil Online Course and Lewis and Clark Tours, books by Thomas Paine, including Common Sense, The American Crisis, The Age of Reason, and The Rights of Man, The Federalist Papers by Alexander Hamilton, John Jay, and James Madison, Jefferson and His Time by Dumas Malone, Second Treatise of Government by John Locke, The Aeneid (Robert Fagles Translation) by Virgil, The Odes of Horace, Histories by Tacitus, History of Rome by Livy, History of the Peloponnesian War by Thucydides, Histories by Herodotus, The Iliad by Homer, The Odyssey by Homer, Voltaire, Bolingbroke, David Hume,

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    #1455 Thomas Paine with Lindsay Chervinsky Aug 10, 2021

    Thomas Paine wrote a bestselling pamphlet, became derided by Americans for his alleged atheism, and was almost killed during the French Revolution. Lindsay Chervinsky joins us to discuss Paine's fascinating life.

    You can order Clay's new book at Amazon, Target, Barnes and Noble, or by contacting your independent bookstore. The Language of Cottonwoods is out now through Koehler Books.

    Mentioned on this episode: Thomas Paine and the Promise of America by Harvey Kaye; books by Thomas Paine, including Common Sense, The American Crisis, The Age of Reason, and The Rights of Man; David's audio book of Common Sense; The Federalist Papers by Alexander Hamilton, John Jay, and James Madison; and lindsaychervinsky.com

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    #1454 Peaceful Transition Aug 03, 2021

    This week, we're replaying a conversation from January 2018 about the peaceful transition of power in our American system of government. In this episode, Jefferson says that it's important to acknowledge that government power originates with the people, and not from any individual or party.

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    Find this episode, along with recommended reading, on the blog. Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about Clay's cultural tours and retreats at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Check out our new merch. You can find Clay's publications on our website, along with a list of his favorite books on Jefferson, Lewis and Clark, and other topics. Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1453 Fourth of July Questions Jul 27, 2021

    We welcome back the noted author and historian Joseph Ellis this week to join with Clay Jenkinson and respond to the many questions we received from listeners generated by our annual Independence Day show.

    You can order Clay's new book at Amazon, Target, Barnes and Noble, or by contacting your independent bookstore. The Language of Cottonwoods is out now through Koehler Books.

    Mentioned on this episode: Joseph Ellis: The Cause: The American Revolution and its Discontents, 1773-1783; Joseph Ellis: After the Revolution: Profiles of Early American Culture

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    #1452 Lewis and Clark Extras Jul 20, 2021

    Clay Jenkinson recently lead a conference for the Smithsonian that introduced attendees to the Lewis and Clark expedition. The lecture was brimming with questions, so many that there was not enough time to answer all of them. This week, we try to finish that task and answer those extra questions about Lewis and Clark.

    You can order Clay's new book at Amazon, Target, Barnes and Noble, or by contacting your independent bookstore. The Language of Cottonwoods is out now through Koehler Books.

    Mentioned on this episode: Undaunted Courage by Stephen E. Ambrose, The Lewis and Clark Expedition Day by Day by Gary Moulton, A Vast and Open Plain: The Writings of the Lewis and Clark Expedition in North Dakota, 1804-1806 edited by Clay Jenkinson, The Character of Meriwether Lewis: Explorer in the Wilderness by Clay Jenkinson

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    #1451 Presidential Tech Jul 13, 2021

    We welcome back the scholar and author Lindsay Chervinsky to discuss her recent piece about Presidents and their technology. The conversation covers the use of social media now and then, and she and Clay Jenkinson rate which one the early founding fathers might have been good follows on Twitter.

    You can order Clay's new book at Amazon, Target, Barnes and Noble, or by contacting your independent bookstore. The Language of Cottonwoods is out now through Koehler Books.

    Mentioned on this episode: Dust Bowl Diary by Ann Marie Low, My Antonia by Willa Cather, The Bones of Plenty by Lois Phillips Hudson, Giants in the Earth by O. E. Rølvaag

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    #1450 In the Garden Jul 06, 2021

    Prompted by a listener request, we speak with President Jefferson about gardening and his love of plants. Thomas Jefferson once said, "No occupation is so delightful to me as the culture of the earth, no culture comparable to that of the garden ... But though an old man, I am but a young gardener."

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    Mentioned on this episode: Dust Bowl Diary by Ann Marie Low, My Antonia by Willa Cather, The Bones of Plenty by Lois Phillips Hudson, Giants in the Earth by O. E. Rølvaag

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    #1449 Second and Fourth Jun 29, 2021

    This week the annual Thomas Jefferson Hour Independence Day show with Clay Jenkinson and Joseph Ellis. Ellis makes the case that John Adams was right in his belief that Independence Day should be celebrated on July 2nd, the day congress voted on the matter, but both agree that due to the simultaneous deaths of Adams and Jefferson on July 4th, that date will forever stand. They also discuss parts of the Declaration of Independence which were removed and the great dangers accepted by the signers of the document.

    You can order Clay's new book at Amazon, Target, Barnes and Noble, or by contacting your independent bookstore. The Language of Cottonwoods is out now through Koehler Books.

    Find this episode, along with recommended reading, on the blog. Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about Clay's cultural tours and retreats at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Check out our new merch. You can find Clay's publications on our website, along with a list of his favorite books on Jefferson, Lewis and Clark, and other topics. Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1448 American Narrative Jun 22, 2021

    This week, a discussion with President Thomas Jefferson about the American narrative. The conversation was prompted by an article in the Atlantic magazine by George Packer titled "How America Fractured into Four Parts." Jefferson shares his optimism about America's future and explains the fractured American narrative during his own time.

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    #1447 The History of D.C. with Lindsay Chervinsky Jun 15, 2021

    We're pleased to welcome back the noted author and historian Lindsay M. Chervinsky. She and Clay discuss how Washington, D.C. became a constitutionally created "federal reserve" and the nation’s capital city, and also the ongoing efforts to make it our 51st state.

    You can pre-order Clay's new book at Amazon, Target, Barnes and Noble, or by contacting your independent bookstore. The Language of Cottonwoods is out on June 22, 2021 through Koehler Books.

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    #1446 The Signers Jun 08, 2021

    Clay Jenkinson is once again joined by the author and historian Joseph Ellis for a program answering listener questions, including inquiries about the 56 men who signed the Declaration of Independence, Jefferson's marriage, Jefferson's relationship with Napoleon, and the Louisiana Purchase.

    You can pre-order Clay's new book at Amazon, Target, Barnes and Noble, or by contacting your independent bookstore. The Language of Cottonwoods is out on June 22, 2021 through Koehler Books.

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    #1445 No Enlightenment, No America Jun 01, 2021

    President Jefferson answers listener questions including comments about American views of British monarchy, Jefferson's thoughts on the work of Edmund Burke, and the importance of Enlightenment thinking in the formation of America. In the last segment of this week's episode, Clay and David are joined by Michael Khandelwal of The Muse Writers Center.

    You can pre-order Clay's new book at Amazon, Target, Barnes and Noble, or by contacting your independent bookstore. The Language of Cottonwoods is out on June 22, 2021 through Koehler Books.

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    #1444 The Language of Cottonwoods May 25, 2021

    This week, an interview with Clay S. Jenkinson about his new book, The Language of Cottonwoods.

    You can pre-order Clay's new book at Amazon, Target, Barnes and Noble, or by contacting your independent bookstore. The Language of Cottonwoods is out on June 22, 2021 through Koehler Books.

    Find this episode, along with recommended reading, on the blog. Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about Clay's cultural tours and retreats at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Check out our new merch. You can find Clay's publications on our website, along with a list of his favorite books on Jefferson, Lewis and Clark, and other topics. Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1443 Washington and Jefferson May 18, 2021

    We are joined this week by the noted author and historian Lindsay M. Chervinsky. She and Clay S. Jenkinson have a lively and insightful discussion about the often strained relations between George Washington and Thomas Jefferson.

    You can find Dr. Chervinsky's website and newsletter here: https://www.lindsaychervinsky.com/

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    #1442 Questions and Books May 11, 2021

    Clay answers listener questions, including inquiries about Jefferson and infrastructure, and about books mentioned on the show.

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    #1441 On Citizenship May 04, 2021

    In this episode we speak with President Jefferson about American immigration policy during his time and ours, as well as the requirements to gain citizenship. Jefferson describes the discriminatory policies of his time, and then agrees to answer some of the 100 test questions immigrants must correctly answer to gain citizenship in 2021.

    Find this episode, along with recommended reading, on the blog. Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about Clay's cultural tours and retreats at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Check out our new merch. You can find Clay's publications on our website, along with a list of his favorite books on Jefferson, Lewis and Clark, and other topics. Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1440 Enslavement Apr 27, 2021

    We are joined this week by the author and historian Professor Joseph Ellis. He and Clay have an in-depth discussion about the Founding Fathers and their willing participation in the enslavement of people.

    Read about Clay's upcoming online courses here: https://jeffersonhour.com/onlinecourse

    Find this episode, along with recommended reading, on the blog. Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about Clay's cultural tours and retreats at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Check out our new merch. You can find Clay's publications on our website, along with a list of his favorite books on Jefferson, Lewis and Clark, and other topics. Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1439 Mutual Strength and Advantage Apr 20, 2021

    This week we talk with President Jefferson about the British point of view of rebellion in America which eventually led to the Revolutionary War. The conversation begins and ends with Jefferson's thoughts on Benjamin Franklin, who had been an anglophile hoping for peace between the two nations, but ended up as a leading voice for American independence.

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    #1438 The Gun Men Apr 13, 2021

    Clay Jenkinson is joined this week by author Joseph Ellis for a lively discussion about popular American conspiracy theories and gun rights in America. In 1785, Thomas Jefferson wrote to his fifteen-year-old nephew, Peter Carr, about what he considered the best form of exercise, "I advise the gun. While this gives a moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise, and independence to the mind." Jefferson also advocated for some gun regulation, barring "pistoling" from the University of Virginia campus.

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    #1437 Jefferson's Birthday Apr 06, 2021

    We wish President Thomas Jefferson a happy 278th birthday this week and discuss possible gifts for him: books and wine. Jefferson also speaks about his vision for America.

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    #1436 Appointments and Disappointments Mar 30, 2021

    We speak with President Thomas Jefferson this week about his cabinet, particularly about his Secretary of the Treasury, Albert Gallatin. President Jefferson, as portrayed by humanities scholar Clay S. Jenkinson, gives credit to Mr. Gallatin for retiring the national debt during his administration, for running the federal government while Jefferson and Madison were away, and for keeping government spending in check.

    In the What Would Jefferson Do segment, Jefferson recommends reading: Thomas Paine, Common Sense; Tacitus, The Histories; Montesquieu, Spirit of the Laws; The letters and orations of Cicero; John Locke, Second Treatise on Government; and The Federalist Papers.

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    #1435 Rebellion Revisited Mar 23, 2021

    This week Clay responds to listener mail, including many comments regarding a previous show about Shays' Rebellion, and what Jefferson's reaction would be to the insurrection that occurred on January 6, 2021.

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    #1434 Joe Mail Mar 16, 2021

    This week Clay Jenkinson, the creator of the Thomas Jefferson Hour, and the author Joseph Ellis answer questions from listeners about the make up of the Senate, British loyalists during the Revolution, and how Jefferson would fare on a citizenship test, to which Ellis says that, “The Constitution isn’t a collection of truths, it’s a framework in which we can argue about what the truths are.”

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    #1433 Sedition Act Mar 09, 2021

    We speak with President Thomas Jefferson this week about the Sedition Act of 1798. Jefferson points out the importance of free speech and says that "its value comes in times of crisis. We don’t need to protect what is comfortable, responsible and harmonious. If we’re a free society, we need to protect speech that is critical, offensive, obnoxious, that which challenges the status quo, and that which will be seen by the government in power as horrific. That’s why we need the 1st Amendment."

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    #1432 Leadership and Character Mar 02, 2021

    For this Thomas Jefferson Hour Zoom Town Hall, we're discussing presidential leadership and character. We take questions directly from attendees, including queries about presidents who can sing the song of America, as well as divisive and consequential presidents, and the fear that our elections may never be normal again.

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    #1431 A Little Rebellion Feb 23, 2021

    We speak with President Jefferson about an armed uprising that occurred in Massachusetts in 1787 known as Shays' Rebellion. We ask Jefferson about an often quoted letter from January of that same year in which he wrote, "I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing, and as necessary in the political world as storms in the physical," and that, "It is a medicine necessary for the sound health of government."


    #1430 Argument Is the Answer Feb 16, 2021

    We are joined this week on the Thomas Jefferson Hour by the respected author Joseph Ellis in a robust discussion about the Constitution, beginning with an agreement that it is time to retire the electoral college. Ellis says that, “Argument is the answer, and the willingness to recognize the legitimacy of different sides in an argument is the crucial fuel that makes the American republic go forward.”

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    #1429 I Have Some Questions Feb 09, 2021

    Clay S. Jenkinson answers listener questions and speaks about the Wall Street Journal's erroneous reporting of Jefferson’s impeachment (he was not impeached), and also talks about Jefferson’s literary tastes and writing. Questions presented include a request for a good biography on Abigail Adams, Jefferson’s daily cold water foot baths and reliable resources for Jefferson quotations.

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    #1428 A Few Plain Duties Feb 02, 2021

    President Jefferson speaks about the challenges he encountered during his first term as president, and offers his guiding principle that he views government as "a few plain duties" performed by a few honest men. He also offers some private advice to our new president on division and building consensus.

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    #1427 Jefferson's First Cabinet Jan 26, 2021

    President Thomas Jefferson joins us this week to discuss the formation of his first cabinet. He had a great deal of experience having attended nearly 60 cabinet meetings serving as Secretary of State during the Washington administration. Jefferson chose his cabinet carefully, wanting to avoid the conflict he experienced in the Washington administration.

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    #1426 Jefferson's First Inauguration Jan 19, 2021

    President Thomas Jefferson was sworn in as our third President on March 4, 1801. He was dressed simply, wearing nothing that would distinguish him from the crowd gathered at noon as he entered the Capitol and then the Senate Gallery to give his speech. The theme of his speech was reconciliation after his bitterly partisan election. This week, Mister Jefferson joins us and recites that speech.

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    #1425 The Transition Jan 12, 2021

    The events at the U.S. Capitol on January 6, 2021 dominated the thoughts of most citizens last week. Clay Jenkinson offers his own thoughts and historical perspective along with comments from Jefferson Hour contributors Beau Wright, David Nicandri and Joseph Ellis.

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    #1424 The Bill of Rights Jan 05, 2021

    This week, we present an edited audio version of a Zoom town hall meeting recorded on December 15, 2020, the 229th anniversary of the ratification of the Bill of Rights. Humanities scholar and author Clay S. Jenkinson provides context and answers questions from the attendees.

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    #1423 New Years 2020 Dec 29, 2020

    This week, we take a look back at the many conversations we had during this past year. We hear from President Jefferson on a number of subjects, including whether or not representatives should follow their conscience or the wishes of the their constituents, his distaste for the royals, and the place of protest in American society. We also share thoughts on the pandemic, and hear from listeners who tell us how it is affecting them and their communities.

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    #1422 Christmas 2020 Dec 22, 2020

    In spite of the fact that President Jefferson didn’t really celebrate Christmas, this week we present our annual Thomas Jefferson Hour Christmas show. The program features conversations with Clay’s daughter Catherine, who will be spending the holiday in Great Britain, Beau Wright and Brad Crisler. Clay, by request, shares a special family-favorite Christmas reading.

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    #1421 The Two Jeffersons Dec 15, 2020

    On the one hand, Jefferson wrote perhaps the most important American directive: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal," but he also believed that America could never become a truly bi-racial republic, and during his lifetime he owned over 200 enslaved people. This week, Clay Jenkinson and Joseph Ellis discuss this uncomfortable twin legacy of Thomas Jefferson that we still wrestle with today.

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    #1420 HannaLore Hein Dec 08, 2020

    We present a fascinating conversation with HannaLore Hein, who in 2019 became Idaho’s first woman state historian. Clay Jenkinson and Hein discuss her duties as a state historian and talk about an author from Idaho, Vardis Fisher. His first novel, Mountain Men, was used as the basis for the 1972 film Jeremiah Johnson. His book, Suicide or Murder: The Strange Death of Meriwether Lewis, published in 1962, is regarded as starting the longstanding controversy over the death of Meriwether Lewis.

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    #1419 Our Weariness Dec 01, 2020

    We begin this week with a discussion about Clay Jenkinson’s online public humanities course, The Future of Constitutional Democracy, and spend time responding to listener questions, including one on representation in the Senate. Clay also responds to many letters about the recent election and acknowledges how weary we all are with both the pandemic, and the divisive nature of today’s politics.

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    #1418 Captain Cook Nov 24, 2020

    Clay Jenkinson interviews the author David L. Nicandri about his new book, Captain Cook Rediscovered: Voyaging to the Icy Latitudes. Nicandri speaks about the immense influence and popularity Cook had during Jefferson’s time, and says that Jefferson borrowed heavily from Cook when he wrote instructions for the Lewis and Clark expedition. Nicandri also shares his view that Captain Cook was the first true polar ice scientist.

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    #1417 After the Election with Joseph Ellis Nov 17, 2020

    Recorded on November 6, 2020, three days after the election, Clay Jenkinson and Joseph Ellis share their thoughts on the recent presidential election and predictions about what’s to come in the next presidency. The two scholars also offer historical context between the elections of Jefferson’s time and this election of 2020.

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    #1416 What Just Happened? Nov 10, 2020

    On November 4, 2020, the day after the election, The Thomas Jefferson Hour held a Zoom "Town Hall" to hear our listeners share their thoughts on the Presidential election. For two hours we heard from supporters of both candidates, along with insight and analysis from Clay Jenkinson, the creator of the Jefferson Hour. This week's show presents an edited version of that conversation, including comments from 17 participants.

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    #1415 Opinions and Principles Nov 03, 2020

    This week on the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Jefferson speaks about his election to the Presidency and the delays in certification as the 3rd President, along with his feelings of the need to unite a divided electorate. On March 4, 1801 in his inaugural address he famously stated, "But every difference of opinion is not a difference of principle. We have called by different names brethren of the same principle. We are all republicans. We are all federalists."

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    #1414 A Nation Divided Oct 27, 2020

    This week on the Thomas Jefferson Hour, along with some listener questions, we present a discussion with Clay Jenkinson and Joe Ellis about the upcoming presidential election and the strong divisions in our nation between the two major political parties.

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    #1413 Jefferson the Lawyer Oct 20, 2020

    Thomas Jefferson practiced law from 1767 until early 1774. Much of his work involved land disputes, however one case in April of 1770 found him acting pro bono defending Samuel Howell, a mixed-race man being held as an indentured servant because his grandmother was white and his grandfather black. He lost the case, but argued that “under the law of nature, all men are born free.” This week Jefferson (as portrayed by humanities scholar Clay S. Jenkinson) answers questions submitted to him by an incarcerated person.

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    #1412 His Excellency Oct 13, 2020

    We're joined by author Joseph Ellis to discuss his work chronicling the Founding Fathers. This week, we're focusing on his 2004 biography, His Excellency: George Washington. The historian Gordon Wood reviewed the book writing that “Ellis's portrait of Washington thus humanizes the man without knocking him off the pedestal where his contemporaries placed him. This Washington is all the greater because he is a real human being with both passions and principles.”

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    #1411 Supreme Court Oct 06, 2020

    This week we speak with President Thomas Jefferson (as portrayed by humanities scholar Clay S. Jenkinson) about the Supreme Court. Jefferson tells us that the Constitution in Article Three contemplates a court system, but that it is quite vague and general, so the first Congress passed the Judiciary Act of 1789 which was intended to create the infrastructure of the Judicial system. George Washington then filled every available seat through appointment.

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    #1410 Monticello Overtime Sep 29, 2020

    Clay recently joined Monticello Senior Historian Ann Lucas for "Getting Noticed on the Lewis and Clark Trail," a public Zoom conference during which Clay answered questions from attendees. Time did not allow for all the questions to be answered, and this week we remedy that. Additionally, we are joined by Joe Ellis who helps to answer questions.

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    #1409 American Sphinx with Joseph Ellis Sep 22, 2020

    Joseph Ellis joins us this week in the first of a series of conversations discussing his work as a historian chronicling the Founding Fathers. We begin by discussing his book, American Sphinx: The Character of Thomas Jefferson, published in 1996 and winner of The National Book Award. In the conversation, Ellis calls the Founders the “greatest generation in American political history in terms of creativity [but] if you want to come to terms with the real historical forces moving American history, perfection is not in the cards.”

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    #1408 Aaron Burr Sep 15, 2020

    This week our guest Laura Gordon of Seattle, Washington speaks with Thomas Jefferson about Aaron Burr, who served as Jefferson’s Vice President from March 4, 1801 to March 4, 1805. Laura asks President Jefferson about Burr’s involvement in the election of 1800, his duel with Alexander Hamilton and his treason trial in 1807.

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    #1407 Our Perilous Contest Sep 08, 2020

    We speak with Thomas Jefferson about a letter he wrote to John Adams in October of 1813 in which Jefferson argues against Adam’s support of aristocracy, writing, "It is probable that our difference of opinion may in some measure be produced by a difference of character in those among whom we live." Adams believed that aristocracy was inevitable, while Jefferson argued that it was merely a remnant of the "old world," and one which should be excluded from our new nation.

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    #1406 Election of 1800 Sep 01, 2020

    This week on the Thomas Jefferson Hour Clay Jenkinson and Professor Joseph Ellis discuss what Ellis calls the “dirtiest election in American history; the presidential race between Jefferson and Adams in 1800. The election, sometimes referred to as the "Revolution of 1800”, was the fourth presidential election held. Voting lasted from April to October, with the final outcome decided on December 3, 1800.

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    #1405 Monuments Response Aug 25, 2020

    In an earlier program, the Thomas Jefferson Hour presented a discussion between Clay Jenkinson and Professor Joseph Ellis about monuments and the potential removal of some, and how we as citizens can come to better understand this issue. This week we present thoughts on this subject received from our listeners.

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    #1404 Humor Me Aug 18, 2020

    Thomas Jefferson Hour creator Clay S. Jenkinson has returned from his annual Lewis and Clark tour, and gives us a report on the trip along with updates on his other projects. Also discussed is the poor state of humor and jokes during Jefferson’s time and a discussion about whether or not Jefferson had a sense of humor.

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    #1403 Power and Dissent Aug 11, 2020

    We speak with President Thomas Jefferson (as portrayed by humanities scholar Clay S. Jenkinson) this week about public dissent and the powers of the presidency. Jefferson has a great deal to say about the right to dissent and to protest. He is famous for saying, "I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing, and as necessary in the political world as storms in the physical." In 1785, in his Notes of the State of Virginia, Jefferson wrote, "The time to guard against corruption and tyranny, is before they shall have gotten hold of us. It is better to keep the wolf out of the fold, than to trust to drawing his teeth and talons after he shall have entered."

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    #1402 Monuments Aug 04, 2020

    This week, as Clay Jenkinson puts it, “a really difficult conversation about an essential subject.” Jenkinson and Professor Joseph Ellis discuss their thoughts about which memorials, statues, place names, etc., should be taken down, which should be kept and, hopefully, how we can come to better understand this issue.

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    #1401 Match Recap with Joseph Ellis Jul 28, 2020

    Joseph Ellis and Clay Jenkinson revisit their debate about who the "Indispensable Man" of the American Revolution truly was. We share listener comments about the debate and answer additional questions sent in, including a request for discussion about the history of the women’s rights movement, Jefferson’s subpoena during the Burr trial and how slavery affected the economy of the southern states.

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    #1400 Prairie Woods Jul 21, 2020

    We enjoy three conversations this week with friends of the Jefferson Hour: luthier Kevin Muiderman, who announces a special guitar auction for the benefit of the Jefferson Hour, Virginia General Assembly member Jason S. Miyares, on the House Joint Resolution 663 recognizing Clay Jenkinson, and songwriter/artist Brad Crisler from Nashville who ends the program with some very insightful observances on the times we now live in.

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    #1399 The Cabinet with Lindsay M. Chervinsky Jul 14, 2020

    This week author and White House historian Lindsay M. Chervinsky discusses her new book, The Cabinet: George Washington and the Creation of an American Institution. The US Constitution never established a presidential cabinet—the delegates to the Constitutional Convention explicitly rejected the idea. The book explores why George Washington created one. Author Jon Meacham calls the book an “important and illuminating study,” one that “has given us an original angle of vision on the foundations and development of something we all take for granted: the president’s Cabinet.”

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    #1398 The Indispensable Man Jul 07, 2020

    This week in an interesting debate match, Clay Jenkinson and Joseph Ellis argue over who is the “Indispensable Man” of the American Revolution. Ellis argues for George Washington, while Jenkinson says it has to be Jefferson. A very wise listener suggests that they are both wrong: it’s Benjamin Franklin.

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    #1397 4th of July Jun 30, 2020

    Our annual Independence Day show, one of only two holidays that Jefferson celebrated. We are joined by Joseph Ellis who shares some perspective on the day, and shares his insights including John Adam’s belief that Independence Day would always be celebrated on July 2nd, and a discussion of a very significant paragraph Jefferson wrote for the Declaration of Independence that congress edited out.

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    #1396 Joe's Questions Jun 23, 2020

    This week author and historian Joseph J. Ellis turns the tables as he interviews Clay Jenkinson about his new book, Repairing Jefferson's America: A Guide to Civility and Enlightened Citizenship. Clay responds that the question the book explores is what we can still gain from Jefferson in our time.

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    Complicity Jun 18, 2020

    Clay and David discuss the protests after the killing of George Floyd.


    #1395 The Few and the Many Jun 16, 2020

    This week author and historian Joseph J. Ellis and Thomas Jefferson Hour creator Clay S. Jenkinson extend their ongoing conversation about the Jefferson-Adams relationship. They discuss the views of the 2 men on the relationship between “the few and the many”. Jefferson says that this inequality has occurred throughout history, and asks what America must do about it to make our society the most equalitarian state that it can possibly be.

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    #1394 Day Books and Journals Jun 09, 2020

    This week on the Jefferson hour, a conversation with David Nicandri about his new book “Lewis and Clark Reframed: Examining Ties to Cook, Vancouver and McKenzie”, and the importance of reading not only the journals left, but also their “day books”. In writing the book, Nicandri speaks about his goal to not just get get into explorers shoes, but to get “into their heads’.

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    #1393 Memorial Day Jun 02, 2020

    This week Joseph Ellis and Clay S. Jenkinson share thoughts on Memorial Day and also answer listener questions. Mr. Ellis says that historians must put the past in the context of its own time and not judge it by the standards of ours, and that we must also be aware of the enlightenment that has come since Jefferson’s time.

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    #1392 Self-Reliance May 26, 2020

    This week on The Thomas Jefferson Hour, the conversation is driven by our listeners who report in on how they are dealing with the Covid-19 pandemic. The conversation begins with the recognition of how important self reliance is now, but that there is also a need for allegiance to community. Prompted by a listener, Clay Jenkinson recalls the famous John Dunne poem, “Any mans death diminishes me, because I am involved in Mankind; And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; It tolls for thee”.

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    #1391 Jefferson-Adams Letters (Part Four) May 19, 2020

    This week we present the fourth and final of four conversations between the author and historian Joseph J. Ellis and The Thomas Jefferson Hour creator Clay S. Jenkinson about the letters exchanged between Thomas Jefferson and John Adams from 1812 until the death of both men on July 4, 1826. In this fourth episode, Clay and Joe discuss the vision Jefferson and Adams held for for America and Joe questions Clay’s assertion that we are no longer a republic, while Clay offers 10 ways we can correct that.

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    #1390 Jefferson-Adams Letters (Part Three) May 13, 2020

    This week we present the third of four conversations between the author and historian Joseph J. Ellis and The Thomas Jefferson Hour creator Clay S. Jenkinson about the letters exchanged between Thomas Jefferson and John Adams from 1812 until the death of both men on July 4, 1826. In this third episode Ellis says that during this age, “letter writing was an art and these are two of the best letter writers in in late eighteenth century America. I don’t know that anybody is better. Franklin is pretty good, but Madison’s letters read like the footnotes of an insurance policy.”

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    #1389 Jefferson-Adams Letters (Part Two) May 06, 2020

    We present the second of four conversations between the author and historian Joseph J. Ellis and The Thomas Jefferson Hour creator Clay S. Jenkinson about the letters exchanged between Thomas Jefferson and John Adams from 1812 until the death of both men on July 4, 1826. In this second episode, they discuss some of what the letters reveal about both men including their thoughts on slavery in America. As Joseph Ellis says in the program, “Jefferson is the most resonant figure in American history because he straddles the greatest insights and the worst instincts.”

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    #1388 Jefferson-Adams Letters (Part One) Apr 29, 2020

    We present the first of four conversations between the author and historian Joseph J. Ellis and The Thomas Jefferson Hour creator Clay S. Jenkinson about the letters exchanged between Thomas Jefferson and John Adams from 1812 until the death of both men on July 4, 1826. In this first episode, we discuss how the correspondence began. As John Adams wrote to Jefferson on July 15, 1813, “You and I, ought not to die, before we have explained ourselves to each other.”

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    #1387 Leadership During Crisis Apr 22, 2020

    Join us for a conversation with Joseph J. Ellis, an American historian whose work focuses on the founders of the United States of America. His books include American Sphinx: The Character of Thomas Jefferson and Passionate Sage: The Character and Legacy of John Adams. Ellis speaks about how important presidential leadership is during times of crisis.

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    #1386 Yellow Fever with Stephen Fried Apr 15, 2020

    "The Yellow Fever was the first epidemic after America became America." — Stephen Fried We are joined this week by Stephen Fried, the award-winning journalist and best-selling author who teaches at Columbia University and the University of Pennsylvania. We discuss his biography of Doctor Benjamin Rush and his more recent article, “Yellow Fever Stalks the Founders,” published in spring 2020 issue of American Heritage magazine. Fried speaks about how doctors in Philadelphia in 1793 dealt with contagious disease. “Doctors”, Fried writes, “believed that building fires to change the air would be ineffectual, but burning gunpowder could work. In the aromatherapy department, citizens were soon eating or rubbing themselves with garlic, smoking constantly or chewing tobacco, and even dipping pieces of rope into tar to wear around their necks.”

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    #1385 Virtual Virus (Part Two) Apr 07, 2020

    This week in the second of a two part program we hear from Jefferson Hour listeners from around the country about how the coronavirus is affecting them and their communities. Included are reports from authors Joseph Ellis and David Nicandri, Jefferson Hour contributors Beau Wright, Russ Eagle and Rick Kennerly along with the perspectives of a 5th grader from Oregon and a University student from Iowa.

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    #1384 Virtual Virus (Part One) Mar 31, 2020

    This week in the first of a two part program we hear from Jefferson Hour listeners from around the country about how the coronavirus is affecting them and their communities. Included are reports from Clay’s daughter Catherine who finds herself somewhat stranded in Britain and Pat Brodowski, the head gardener at Monticello.

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    #1383 Out of Tights Mar 24, 2020

    On February 25, 2020, Clay Jenkinson appeared before a sold out crowd at the TCC Roper Performing Arts Center in Norfolk, Virginia for his new performance, “Talking out of Tights,” an evening of humor and storytelling in which Jenkinson reflects on the comedic side of a life performing as Thomas Jefferson – the surprising encounters, the wigs, the arrests (!) – all for the love of the humanities. The show was sponsored by WHRV public radio. On this week's Jefferson Hour we hear excerpts from that performance, and also answer listener questions.

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    #1382 The Yellow Fever of 1793 Mar 17, 2020

    We discuss the Philadelphia Yellow Fever epidemic of 1793. Philadelphia's population at that time was approximately 50,000, and before it was over 1 in 10 died from the outbreak despite the best efforts of physicians of the time.

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    #1381 No Kings, No Queens Mar 10, 2020

    President Jefferson responds to questions submitted by listeners including inquiries about the rise of political parties during Jefferson’s time, Jefferson’s office space in the White House, his immediate family and how he feels about America’s fascination with the British royals.

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    #1380 Cuba Libre Mar 03, 2020

    "I candidly confess that I have ever looked on Cuba as the most interesting addition which could ever be made to our system of states." — Thomas Jefferson to James Monroe, October 24, 1823

    Clay Jenkinson returns from his recent cultural tour to Cuba. He gives an in-depth report on the country, its history and people, and Thomas Jefferson’s thoughts on Cuba.

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    #1379 Constituents Represented Feb 25, 2020

    "Nobody is entitled to a career in the Senate or a career in the House or a career in the governor's mansion, and the people who aspire to that are corrupt." — Clay S. Jenkinson portraying Thomas Jefferson

    President Jefferson answers listener questions such as how representatives should react and vote when their own views differ from the constituents they represent. Another question looks at Jefferson’s relationship with John Adams.

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    #1378 More TJ Please Feb 18, 2020

    Prompted by a listener’s request to spend more time talking to Mister Jefferson, we devote this episode to presenting questions to Jefferson, such as whether it's necessary for congress to approve military actions, and if the founding fathers could have anticipated the formation of political parties and would they have designed things differently had they known.

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    #1377 Naturalist in the Arena Feb 11, 2020

    We're joined by Char Miller to discuss a new book, Theodore Roosevelt, Naturalist in the Arena. The book is a collection of noted essays by Roosevelt scholars and was edited by Miller and Clay Jenkinson. Char Miller is W. M. Keck Professor of Environmental Analysis and History at Pomona College.

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    #1376 Historian's Perspective Feb 04, 2020

    We are joined this week by one of our favorite guests, Professor Joseph Ellis. Ellis is a Pulitzer Prize winning author and American historian whose work focuses primarily on the times of the American founders. Highly recommended are his books, American Sphinx: The Character of Thomas Jefferson, which won a National Book Award and Founding Brothers: The Revolutionary Generation which won the 2001 Pulitzer Prize for History. This week on the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Professor Ellis offers his unique perspective on the volatile times we are living through.

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    #1375 Catherine's Story Jan 28, 2020

    This week, we answer questions about Meriwether Lewis and the conspiracy theories attached to his death, along with discussion about Clay Jenkinson's annual Lewis and Clark trip. Later in the show we are joined by guest host Catherine Jenkinson who shares her side of the story and her thoughts about living in England.

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    #1374 Double Cheese Please Jan 21, 2020

    We have added a call in line at jeffersonhour.com/ask for listeners to leave questions they would like answered, and this week on the Thomas Jefferson Hour we listen to our listeners. Five questions are answered, including thoughts on Jefferson and slavery, Jefferson and John Adams, appointments of judges and the nature of historiography. We also get to hear Clay’s impersonation of how Jefferson might sound ordering a pizza.

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    #1373 Separation of Powers Jan 14, 2020

    This week, we speak with President Jefferson about the separation of powers: the division of the legislative, executive, and judicial powers enumerated in our Constitution. Jefferson explains the responsibilities of these separate and independent bodies, and how they can limit excesses in government.

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    #1372 Incarceration Jan 07, 2020

    This week's guest host Catherine Jenkinson speaks with President Jefferson about incarceration policies in early and present day America. Jefferson was a reformist, and revised the entire law code of Virginia. Jefferson was enamored with the work of Cesare Beccaria.

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    #1371 The New Year Jan 01, 2020

    This week, we welcome back Catherine Jenkinson as guest host. She and Clay Jenkinson discuss the celebrations of the new year and how the calendar has changed over the course of several millennia. They also discuss new year's resolutions, and the ways celebrations have changed since Jefferson’s time.

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    #1370 Jefferson's Impeachments Dec 24, 2019

    We speak with President Thomas Jefferson about the impeachments that took place during his presidency. There were two impeachments of federal judges, Thomas Pickering and Samuel Chase. In the out-of-character segment, Jenkinson shares the story of Aaron Burr, who had recently killed Alexander Hamilton in a duel, presiding over the trial of Chase.

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    Rewriting the Constitution Dec 20, 2019

    "That’s the point of a constitutional revision: to clarify." — Clay S. Jenkinson portraying Thomas Jefferson

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    #1369 Four Scholars Dec 17, 2019

    "I take absolutely no joy in any of this. This is a national catastrophe, a tragedy." — Clay S. Jenkinson

    On December 4, 2019, four constitutional scholars gathered to testify before the U.S. House Judiciary Committee in public hearings. This week in an out of character program we listen to selected portions of that testimony. Clay Jenkinson responds and provides his unique insight. He notes how often the founders are referred to during the hearings and says that the scholars “gave us an unbelievably important civics lesson on the intention of the founding fathers.”

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    #1368 Benjamin Franklin's Puffy Rolls Dec 10, 2019

    "What's the use of a newborn baby?"

    Benjamin Franklin was considered "the grand old man" of the American Revolution, and when questioned about what the men of the Constitutional Convention had delivered, he answered, "A republic, if you can keep it." This week, in an out-of-character program, we talk more about Benjamin Franklin.

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    1776 Club Preview: Working with Ken Burns Dec 09, 2019

    "So he records in a barn? Where'd he get that?"

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    #1367 Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Jefferson Dec 03, 2019

    "For Franklin, knowledge was important, but application of knowledge ... mattered to him as much as any pure science." — Clay S. Jenkinson

    Thomas Jefferson had an immense respect for Benjamin Franklin, who was nearly 37 years his senior. Franklin became one of the most respected Americans during the revolution and was, in a sense, pushed there by British arrogance.

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    #1366 American Creation with Joseph Ellis Nov 26, 2019

    "Understand him for his flaws as well as for his greatness." — Joe Ellis

    We welcome historian Joseph Ellis to the program this week to talk about his book American Creation. In the book, Ellis notes a series of five contributions the founding fathers made and Clay Jenkinson asks how those contributions are holding up during our time.

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    1776 Club Preview: Storytelling Nov 22, 2019

    You can hear this 1776 Club episode here: https://jeffersonhour.bandcamp.com/album/storytelling

    Clay and David discuss storytelling, documentary film-making, and Clay's experiences being interviewed by Ken Burns.

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    #1365 Back from France Nov 19, 2019

    "Jefferson admits [to John] Adams, you were right and I was wrong about the French Revolution." — Joseph J. Ellis

    We welcome Clay Jenkinson back from his recent cultural tour to France, and speak with author Joseph Ellis about what Jefferson learned in France, and how it changed his outlook of the American dream.

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    #1364 Listener Questions Nov 12, 2019

    In this week's out-of-character program, our conversation is spent answering and responding to listener questions. Subjects included are Catherine Jenkinson’s recent hosting of the show, hot air balloons during Jefferson’s time, Theodore Roosevelt, and the rights of women, the LGBTQ community, and people of color.

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    #1363 The Social Contract Nov 05, 2019

    President Thomas Jefferson speaks about the formation of the government of the United States. Jefferson explains the social contract theory that when you are alone, you are sovereign, and when you join with others you have to negotiate what is for the commonwealth, and negotiate what natural rights you get to keep after adjustment by the government.

    Find this episode, along with recommended reading, on the blog. Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about Clay's cultural tours & retreats at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Check out our new merch. You can find Clay's publications on our website, along with a list of his favorite books on Jefferson, Lewis & Clark, and other topics. Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1362 Gardens to Miniatures Oct 29, 2019

    We are joined this week on the Thomas Jefferson Hour by three of our favorite friends: Pat Brodowski, Beau Wright, and Brad Crisler. Pat Brodowski is Monticello’s Head Gardener. Beau Wright is a council member at large for the city of Lynchburg, Virginia. Brad Crisler is an award-winning Nashville-based songwriter, who now operates Truman B. Crisler Fine Portrait Miniatures.

    Find this episode, along with recommended reading, on the blog. Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about Clay's cultural tours & retreats at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Check out our new merch. You can find Clay's publications on our website, along with a list of his favorite books on Jefferson, Lewis & Clark, and other topics. Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1361 Constitution in Crisis Oct 22, 2019

    We speak with President Jefferson about the role of government in the oversight of elected officials. He tells us that because of the times they lived in, the founding fathers had great concerns about foreign involvement and influence on our government, and accordingly provided a mechanism to protect against it: impeachment.

    Find this episode, along with recommended reading, on the blog. Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about Clay's cultural tours & retreats at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Check out our new merch. You can find Clay's publications on our website, along with a list of his favorite books on Jefferson, Lewis & Clark, and other topics. Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1360 To Cuba Oct 15, 2019

    We are joined again this week by Catherine Jenkinson acting as guest host for a delightful conversation about Cuba, Clay’s upcoming cultural tour to Cuba, Thomas Jefferson’s connection to Cuba, and Theodore Roosevelt’s time there. Catherine questions Clay as to whether or not Roosevelt was really the “man in the arena” during his exploits on San Juan Hill.

    Find this episode, along with recommended reading, on the blog. Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about Clay's cultural tours & retreats at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Check out our new merch. You can find Clay's publications on our website, along with a list of his favorite books on Jefferson, Lewis & Clark, and other topics. Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1359 To Oxford Oct 08, 2019

    Thomas Jefferson Hour creator Clay S. Jenkinson is joined by his daughter Catherine who serves as this week’s guest host. Among the many topics discussed is Catherine's upcoming trip to England where she will become a student this fall at the University of Oxford.

    Find this episode, along with recommended reading, on the blog. Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about Clay's cultural tours & retreats at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Check out our new merch. You can find Clay's publications on our website, along with a list of his favorite books on Jefferson, Lewis & Clark, and other topics. Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1358 Robinson Crusoe Oct 01, 2019

    "It’s a classic enlightenment story: a novel in the history of ideas about how civilization is created from nothing."

    — Clay S. Jenkinson

    We present another installment of the Jefferson Hour Book Club this week, and the selection is Robinson Crusoe, written by Daniel Defoe and published in 1719. It is a book Thomas Jefferson had in his library and reportedly read twice.

    Find this episode, along with recommended reading, on the blog. Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about Clay's cultural tours & retreats at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Check out our new merch. You can find Clay's publications on our website, along with a list of his favorite books on Jefferson, Lewis & Clark, and other topics. Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1357 The Dempster Highway Sep 24, 2019

    We are joined this week by David Nicandri, one of the most respected Lewis and Clark scholars in the country. His book, "River of Promise - Lewis & Clark on the Columbia" fills a significant gap in our understanding of Lewis and Clark’s legendary expedition. Nicandri joins us not so much to speak of that journey, but one of his own. In a fascinating conversation, Nicandri tells us about the journey he and his son took on the Dempster Highway all the way to the arctic ocean.

    Find this episode, along with recommended reading, on the blog. Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about Clay's cultural tours & retreats at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Check out our new merch. You can find Clay's publications on our website, along with a list of his favorite books on Jefferson, Lewis & Clark, and other topics. Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1356 Considering Exceptionalism Sep 17, 2019

    Prompted by a letter from a listener, President Thomas Jefferson shares his views on American exceptionalism and his hope that America will stand as a strong and good example for the rest of the world to follow.

    Find this episode, along with recommended reading, on the blog. Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about Clay's cultural tours & retreats at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Check out our new merch. You can find Clay's publications on our website, along with a list of his favorite books on Jefferson, Lewis & Clark, and other topics. Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1355 Inventive Behavior Sep 10, 2019

    President Thomas Jefferson speaks to us this week about inventions and scientific discoveries of his time including some he was responsible for.

    Find this episode, along with recommended reading, on the blog. Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about Clay's cultural tours & retreats at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Check out our new merch. You can find Clay's publications on our website, along with a list of his favorite books on Jefferson, Lewis & Clark, and other topics. Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1354 In 1969 Sep 03, 2019

    This week we speak with Thomas Jefferson briefly about Alexander von Humbolt, and then bring Jefferson closer to our time by informing him that 50 years ago America landed men on the moon, which he has a bit of trouble believing. We also discuss Woodstock with Jefferson who says he hopes that if there were indeed women in attendance that they were all properly “escorted.”

    Find this episode, along with recommended reading, on the blog. Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about Clay's cultural tours & retreats at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Check out our new merch. You can find Clay's publications on our website, along with a list of his favorite books on Jefferson, Lewis & Clark, and other topics. Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1353 Humboldt and Jefferson Aug 27, 2019

    "He was iconic in the world's idea of what a nation could possibly be, and what an enlightened leader could possibly be."

    — Clay S. Jenkinson portraying Thomas Jefferson

    This week features another episode in the Jefferson Hour book club. We discuss Humboldt and Jefferson: A Transatlantic Friendship of the Enlightenment by Sandra Rebok, which explores the relationship between two fascinating personalities: the Prussian explorer, scientist, and geographer Alexander von Humboldt and Thomas Jefferson. They met in the spring of 1804 for just a few days, but their correspondence went on for decades.

    Find this episode, along with recommended reading, on the blog. Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about Clay's cultural tours & retreats at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Check out our new merch. You can find Clay's publications on our website, along with a list of his favorite books on Jefferson, Lewis & Clark, and other topics. Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1352 Clunky Adjectives Aug 20, 2019

    In this week’s episode, President Thomas Jefferson answers listener questions, as does Thomas Jefferson Hour creator Clay S. Jenkinson. Subjects discussed include where the name “United States of America” comes from, the poet Phillis Wheatley and slavery in the Northwest Territory.

    Find this episode, along with recommended reading, on the blog. Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about Clay's cultural tours & retreats at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Check out our new merch. You can find Clay's publications on our website, along with a list of his favorite books on Jefferson, Lewis & Clark, and other topics. Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1351 Eight Objects Aug 13, 2019

    Clay Jenkinson has returned from his annual Lewis and Clark trip in Montana and Idaho, and he gives us a report on the 2019 tour. Clay also offers a list of eight items Lewis and Clark would have certainly wished for on their journey, could they have had them.

    Find this episode, along with recommended reading, on the blog. Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about Clay's cultural tours & retreats at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Check out our new merch. You can find Clay's publications on our website, along with a list of his favorite books on Jefferson, Lewis & Clark, and other topics. Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1350 Diamonds and Dunghills Aug 06, 2019

    This week, Clay takes a deeper look at Jefferson and religion. Jefferson considered the teachings of Jesus as having "the most sublime and benevolent code of morals which has ever been offered to man," but he felt that the pure teachings of Jesus were inaccurately appropriated by some of the early followers of Jesus which led to a Bible that had both "diamonds" of wisdom and the "dung" of ancient political agendas.

    In Notes on the State of Virginia, Thomas Jefferson wrote, "Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burned, tortured, fined and imprisoned. What has been the effect of this coercion? To make one half the world fools and the other half hypocrites; to support roguery and error all over the earth.”

    Find this episode, along with recommended reading, on the blog. Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about Clay's cultural tours & retreats at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Check out our new merch. You can find Clay's publications on our website, along with a list of his favorite books on Jefferson, Lewis & Clark, and other topics. Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1349 Jefferson's Soul Jul 30, 2019

    On August 20th, 1814, Thomas Jefferson received a letter from Miles King expressing King’s concerns for Jefferson’s eternal soul. King wrote, “And now permit me to ask dear Sir, are you not an old man well stricken in years, and laden with the highest honors that a grateful country can bestow? But what will these avail you in a dying hour?” We speak with President Jefferson this week about that letter and Jefferson’s reply to it.

    Find this episode, along with recommended reading, on the blog. Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about Clay's cultural tours & retreats at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Check out our new merch. You can find Clay's publications on our website, along with a list of his favorite books on Jefferson, Lewis & Clark, and other topics. Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1348 Tulip Poplars Jul 23, 2019

    We discuss the 50th Anniversary of the Apollo moon landing and then are joined by two special guests. Jeff Huss of the Huss and Dalton Guitar Company in Staunton, Virginia talks about a very special project: the Jefferson Edition 00-SP Custom guitar which is crafted in part with wood from Monticello. Later in the program, Monticello’s head gardener Pat Brodowski tells us about the trees the wood came from and why they had to be cut down.

    Find this episode, along with recommended reading, on the blog. Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about Clay's cultural tours & retreats at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Check out our new merch. You can find Clay's publications on our website, along with a list of his favorite books on Jefferson, Lewis & Clark, and other topics. Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1347 Chernow's Hamilton Jul 16, 2019

    "Jefferson comes off as a Machiavellian figure in this book, as not all together reliable and not always truthful in his epic fight against Hamilton." — Clay S. Jenkinson

    This week, we present another installment in the Jefferson Hour Book Club and discuss Alexander Hamilton by author Ron Chernow.

    Find this episode, along with recommended reading, on the blog. Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about Clay's cultural tours & retreats at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Check out our new merch. You can find Clay's publications on our website, along with a list of his favorite books on Jefferson, Lewis & Clark, and other topics. Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1346 In Search of America Jul 09, 2019

    "Mayor Pete of South Bend is saying that he would welcome certain erasures of Jefferson from our public discourse." — Clay S. Jenkinson

    Clay has returned from his recent travels and his search for America, and he updates us on that trip. We answer listener mail, including responses to the recent show, #1344 Baked In.

    Find this episode, along with recommended reading, on the blog. Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about Clay's cultural tours & retreats at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Check out our new merch. You can find Clay's publications on our website, along with a list of his favorite books on Jefferson, Lewis & Clark, and other topics. Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1345 Independence Day Jul 02, 2019

    For our annual Jefferson Hour 4th of July show, we speak with President Jefferson (as portrayed by humanities scholar Clay S. Jenkinson) about the founding ideals of America and his participation in the writing of the Declaration of Independence.

    Find this episode, along with recommended reading, on the blog. Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about Clay's cultural tours & retreats at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Check out our new merch. You can find Clay's publications on our website, along with a list of his favorite books on Jefferson, Lewis & Clark, and other topics. Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    The Supreme Court Jun 28, 2019

    "It is a necessary evil, and the more we rein it in, the happier and freer we shall be." — Clay S. Jenkinson portraying Thomas Jefferson

    Find this episode, along with recommended reading, on the blog. Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about Clay's cultural tours & retreats at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Check out our new merch. You can find Clay's publications on our website, along with a list of his favorite books on Jefferson, Lewis & Clark, and other topics. Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1344 Baked In Jun 25, 2019

    This week we speak with humanities scholar Clay S. Jenkinson about how rigid people’s political thoughts have become during our time, George Will’s observations on citizen’s expectations of government and what a contemporary Jeffersonian political party might stand for.

    Find this episode, along with recommended reading, on the blog. Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about Clay's cultural tours & retreats at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Check out our new merch. You can find Clay's publications on our website, along with a list of his favorite books on Jefferson, Lewis & Clark, and other topics. Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    The Wealth of Nations Jun 21, 2019

    "Every individual [is] led by an invisible hand to promote an end which was no part of his intention." — Adam Smith

    Find this episode, along with recommended reading, on the blog. Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about Clay's cultural tours & retreats at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Check out our new merch. You can find Clay's publications on our website, along with a list of his favorite books on Jefferson, Lewis & Clark, and other topics. Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1343 Forty Books Jun 18, 2019

    "He's never happier than when he can recommend a course of reading to somebody else."

    — Clay S. Jenkinson

    President Jefferson tells us what books he might recommend to juvenile readers, and it turns out to be a fairly limited list. He does, however, recommend Don Quixote, Gulliver’s Travels and Robinson Crusoe.

    Find this episode, along with recommended reading, on the blog. Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about Clay's cultural tours & retreats at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Check out our new merch. You can find Clay's publications on our website, along with a list of his favorite books on Jefferson, Lewis & Clark, and other topics. Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    Presidential Indictments Jun 14, 2019

    "I refused to honor the subpoena but I did voluntarily supply some of the documents." — Clay S. Jenkinson portraying Thomas Jefferson

    Find this episode, along with recommended reading, on the blog. Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about Clay's cultural tours & retreats at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Check out our new merch. You can find Clay's publications on our website, along with a list of his favorite books on Jefferson, Lewis & Clark, and other topics. Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1342 Dressing Down Jun 11, 2019

    "He was drest, or rather undrest, with an old brown coat, red waistcoat, old corduroy small clothes, much soiled-woolen hose-and slippers without heels." — William Plumer, 1802

    This week we talk about Thomas Jefferson’s talent for political theater, and the ways he used this talent to reinforce the public perception of his firm beliefs in republicanism and guard against what he saw as a threat of monarchy in the young nation.

    Find this episode, along with recommended reading, on the blog. Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about Clay's cultural tours & retreats at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Check out our new merch. You can find Clay's publications on our website, along with a list of his favorite books on Jefferson, Lewis & Clark, and other topics. Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    Clay in Search of America: Granby, CO Jun 07, 2019

    Clay calls in to talk with David about his travels.

    Follow along as Clay searches for America on his Steinbeck-inspired journey across the country. Clay's travelogue and photographs, as well as 1776 Club exclusive audio dispatches, will be continuously updated at jeffersonhour.com/america and you can also get updates on our Facebook.


    #1341 Dinner with Jefferson Jun 04, 2019

    "I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend."

    — Thomas Jefferson, 1800

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    This week, we ask President Jefferson about his famous dinner parties and their extensive menus. It was important to Jefferson to not appear too regal, and the dinner parties were kept somewhat casual. In 1802, a Federalist senator from New Hampshire was meeting Jefferson at a dinner when “a tall high boned man” entered the room wearing “an old brown coat, red waistcoat, old corduroy small clothes, much soiled—woolen hose—& slippers without heels.” He added, “I thought this man was a servant; but was surprised by the announcement it was the President.”

    Find this episode, along with recommended reading, on the blog. Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about Clay's cultural tours & retreats at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Check out our new merch. You can find Clay's publications on our website, along with a list of his favorite books on Jefferson, Lewis & Clark, and other topics. Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1340 A Gloom Unbrightened May 28, 2019

    We speak with President Jefferson this week about death and suicide, specifically about the deaths of Meriwether Lewis, James Hemmings and Alexander Hamilton.

    After the death of his wife in 1782, Jefferson wrote, “All my plans of comfort and happiness reversed by a single event and nothing answering in prospect before me but a gloom un-brightened with one cheerful expectation. This miserable kind of existence is really too burdensome to be borne, and were it not for the infidelity of deserting the sacred charge left me, I could not wish its continuance a moment.”

    You can reach the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 1-800-273-8255.

    Find this episode, along with recommended reading, on the blog. Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about Clay's cultural tours & retreats at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Check out our new merch. You can find Clay's publications on our website, along with a list of his favorite books on Jefferson, Lewis & Clark, and other topics. Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1339 Questions and Answers May 21, 2019

    "Those forty books made a difference in his life, because he grew up in a house where there were books and book culture."

    — Clay S. Jenkinson

    This week on The Thomas Jefferson Hour, we answer listener questions including a query from a listener in Ireland asking about Jefferson’s thoughts on the Irish rebellion and constitution, Jefferson’s involvement in providing alcohol to troops, suggestions for a Jefferson library for children, and Jefferson’s advice for Americans traveling in Europe.

    Find this episode, along with recommended reading, on the blog. Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about Clay's cultural tours & retreats at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Check out our new merch. You can find Clay's publications on our website, along with a list of his favorite books on Jefferson, Lewis & Clark, and other topics. Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1338 Notes on the State of Virginia May 14, 2019

    "But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg."

    — Thomas Jefferson, Notes on the State of Virginia

    We discuss Jefferson’s only published book, Notes on the State of Virginia. Jefferson completed his first draft of the book in 1781 and first published it anonymously in Paris in 1785. It is widely considered the most important American book published before 1800.

    Find this episode, along with recommended reading, on the blog. Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about Clay's cultural tours & retreats at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Check out our new merch. You can find Clay's publications on our website, along with a list of his favorite books on Jefferson, Lewis & Clark, and other topics. Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1337 The Vaunted Scene May 07, 2019

    “Behold me at length on the vaunted scene of Europe! […] I find the general fate of humanity here, most deplorable. The truth of Voltaire's observation, offers itself perpetually, that every man here must be either the hammer or the anvil.”

    — Thomas Jefferson, 1785

    We speak with President Jefferson about his time spent in France.

    Find this episode, along with recommended reading, on the blog. Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about Clay's cultural tours & retreats at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Check out our new merch. You can find Clay's publications on our website, along with a list of his favorite books on Jefferson, Lewis & Clark, and other topics. Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1336 Brodowski and Wright Apr 30, 2019

    "It's such a gift. Every day."

    — Pat Brodowski

    We speak with two of our favorite Jefferson Hour correspondents: Pat Brodowski, the head gardener at Monticello, and Beau Wright, a frequent contributor to the show and a city council member of Lynchburg, VA.

    Find this episode, along with recommended reading, on the blog. Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about Clay's cultural tours & retreats at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Check out our new merch. You can find Clay's publications on our website, along with a list of his favorite books on Jefferson, Lewis & Clark, and other topics. Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1335 The Mustard Seed Apr 23, 2019

    "You feel the wonderment of nature at its finest … it's a deep, deep, deep cultural memory of the miracle of the seed."

    — Clay S. Jenkinson

    We answer listener mail about John Wesley Powell, David Thompson, Daniel Flores, Jefferson’s theft of upland rice while he was in Italy, and suggestions for educating young people.

    Find this episode, along with recommended reading, on the blog. Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about our Cultural Tours & Retreats with Clay S. Jenkinson at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1334 Benjamin Rush with Stephen Fried Apr 16, 2019

    "He and Jefferson talked about everything."

    — Stephen Fried

    Benjamin Rush was a physician, politician, social reformer, humanitarian, educator, and a signer of the U.S. Declaration of Independence. Rush was a leader of the American Enlightenment and an enthusiastic supporter of the American Revolution. Born the son of a Philadelphia blacksmith, Rush touched virtually every page in the story of the nation’s founding. It was Rush who was responsible for the late-in-life reconciliation between John Adams and Thomas Jefferson. This week we speak with the author Stephen Fried about his new book, Rush: Revolution, Madness, and Benjamin Rush, the Visionary Doctor Who Became a Founding Father.

    Find this episode, along with recommended reading, on the blog. Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about our Cultural Tours & Retreats with Clay S. Jenkinson at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1333 The Constitution Today Apr 09, 2019

    "I don't think, from my point of view, you can think that the Constitution is sacred."

    — Clay S. Jenkinson

    We discuss Akhil Reed Amar's The Constitution Today, a selection for the Book Club, which contains essays written by Amar over the past two decades. Amar gives us a road map for thinking constitutionally about today’s America.

    Find this episode, along with recommended reading, on the blog. Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about our Cultural Tours & Retreats with Clay S. Jenkinson at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    Let Us Read the Mueller Report Apr 04, 2019

    I confess that I did in fact think that more indictments were coming, perhaps even within the Trump family. I did think that Special Prosecutor Mueller would conclude that the Trump organization conspired with the Russians to influence the election. I was plainly wrong.

    We haven’t seen the Mueller report yet. I expect that it will simultaneously confirm everyone’s worst fears and yet in a technical-legal sense exonerate the President. It will simultaneously please and displease everyone.

    You can call me one of the deplorables, but I am absolutely certain you cannot make the case that the third President would find anything to admire in the 45th.

    You can read this Jefferson Watch essay on the blog.

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    #1332 Smallpox Apr 02, 2019

    "Having been among the early converts, in this part of the globe, to [the smallpox vaccine's] efficiency, I took an early part in recommending it to my countrymen."

    — Thomas Jefferson, 1806

    Jefferson talks about his own smallpox inoculation, as well as John Adams’ experience. Jefferson admired Dr. Edward Jenner, the physician and scientist who was a pioneer of smallpox vaccination. Smallpox killed millions of people during Jefferson’s time, and continued to do so until the 20th century. The World Health Assembly declared smallpox eradicated in 1980.

    Find this episode, along with recommended reading, on the blog. Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about our Cultural Tours & Retreats with Clay S. Jenkinson at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    Ne Plus Ultra Mar 29, 2019

    "I would have liked to have had Canada. Twice, we invaded Canada during my lifetime, and failed on both occasions."

    — Clay S. Jenkinson portraying Thomas Jefferson

    Find this episode, along with recommended reading, on the blog. Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about our Cultural Tours & Retreats with Clay S. Jenkinson at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1331 Young Washington with Peter Stark Mar 26, 2019

    "The French ... thought it was an assassination, a war crime, that Washington was a murderer."

    — Peter Stark

    We speak with Peter Stark, author of Young Washington: How Wilderness and War Forged America’s Founding Father.

    We discuss George Washington’s formative years and character traits, his travels into the Ohio country, and his relationship with lieutenant governor Robert Dinwiddie. We talk about how Washington’s involvement in the Battle of Jumonville Glen touched off the French and Indian War.

    As a historian, Stark's writing focuses on adventure and exploration. A traveler himself, Stark is a long-time correspondent for Outside magazine. His 2014 book, Astoria: John Jacob Astor and Thomas Jefferson's Lost Pacific Empire, was a New York Times bestseller.

    Find this episode, along with recommended reading, on the blog. Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about our Cultural Tours & Retreats with Clay S. Jenkinson at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1330 Wilderness and War Mar 19, 2019

    "This book reveals [Washington] as a man of emotion, raw emotion."

    — Clay S. Jenkinson

    In anticipation of our conversation next week with Peter Stark, the author of Young Washington, we speak with Jefferson about our first president. Jefferson also comments on the time change, and the importance of using available daylight.

    Find this episode, along with recommended reading, on the blog. Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about our Cultural Tours & Retreats with Clay S. Jenkinson at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1329 Laboratories of Democracy Mar 12, 2019

    "I am a loyal, proud, cheerleading sort of North Dakotan."

    — Clay S. Jenkinson

    A listener in Texas admonishes Clay for offering to give up a North Dakota senate seat, and we take questions about the Fourteenth Amendment. Our constitutional discussions continue by reading additional correspondence from listeners.

    Find this episode, along with recommended reading, on the blog. Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about our Cultural Tours & Retreats with Clay S. Jenkinson at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1328 Constitutional Correspondence Mar 05, 2019

    "What would fix this country? Almost the number one thing would be: take money out of politics."

    — Clay S. Jenkinson

    We continue our current theme of constitutional discussions by reading and considering listener mail, including a number of specific suggestions for constitutional amendments. We also share a report from a listener who visited Monticello when Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner were there.

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    Appropriations Mar 01, 2019

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    #1327 Complex Compromises Feb 26, 2019

    Jefferson answers questions about the Constitution, including topics like presidential pardon power, natural-born citizen requirements, and the constitutionality of signing statements.

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    #1326 No Just Government Should Refuse Feb 19, 2019

    "Let me add that a bill of rights is what the people are entitled to against every government on earth, general or particular, & what no just government should refuse or rest on inference." — Thomas Jefferson, 1787

    President Jefferson answers a number of listener questions about the United States Constitution. We discuss the meaning of Article V, how much of the document is open to interpretation, and the idea of amending the Constitution every generation.

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    #1325 Pax Americana Feb 12, 2019

    We answer listener questions this week, and we identify a specific melon seed that Pat Brodowski, the head gardener at Monticello, mentioned on a past episode. We also discuss Clay’s new ukulele. The most mail we received was about Robert Kagan's new book, The Jungle Grows Back, which Tom Friedman of The New York Times called "An incisive, elegantly written, new book about America’s unique role in the world."

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    #1324 Lochsa Feb 05, 2019

    "nothing is more certainly written in the book of fate than that these people are to be free." — Thomas Jefferson, 1821

    Clay Jenkinson returns from his cultural retreat held at Lochsa Lodge in Idaho last week and reports in on this year's meetings. Also, perhaps prompted by the 50th anniversary of the famous Beatles "rooftop concert," we wander into a short conversation about pop music, and discuss the recent extreme cold weather along with how Jefferson is co-opted by many of us without paying enough attention to the historical record.

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    #1323 The Only Security of All Is in a Free Press Jan 29, 2019

    "were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers, or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter."

    — Thomas Jefferson, 1787

    This week we discuss the importance of a free press with President Jefferson.

    On November 4, 1823 Thomas Jefferson wrote to Marquis de Lafayette that "the only security of all is in a free press. The force of public opinion cannot be resisted, when permitted freely to be expressed. The agitation it produces must be submitted to. It is necessary to keep the waters pure."

    In January of 1816 Jefferson wrote to Colonel Charles Yancey, "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be. The functionaries of every government have propensities to command at will the liberty and property of their constituents. There is no safe deposit for these but with the people themselves; nor can they be safe with them without information. Where the press is free, and every man able to read, all is safe."

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    #1322 Roosevelt and Jefferson Jan 22, 2019

    "Few people grow in office; few people grow in life. Roosevelt grew in life. He became more interesting, more sensitive, more thoughtful ... [Roosevelt] became more enlightened as time went on."

    — Clay S. Jenkinson

    Prompted by a listener request, and recognizing the 100th anniversary Theodore Roosevelt’s death, this week Clay Jenkinson discusses the differences, and a few similarities, between Roosevelt and Jefferson.

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    Government Shutdowns Jan 18, 2019

    "There must be a better way for the political factions of your time to sort out their differences." — Clay S. Jenkinson portraying Thomas Jefferson

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    #1321 January First Jan 15, 2019

    January 1st was an important day to Thomas Jefferson for many reasons. This week, we speak with President Jefferson about notable New Year's Day occurrences during his life, including his wedding, his famous "wall of separation between church and state" letter to the Danbury Baptists, and the beginning of his famous correspondence with John Adams during the last years of their lives. We also tell the story of "the world's largest cheese" that Jefferson received while President.

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    #1320 Looking Forward Jan 08, 2019

    "It's going to be a pivotal year in American history." - Clay S. Jenkinson

    We look forward to 2019 and discuss some of the episode topics that have been suggested to us by the Fans of the Thomas Jefferson Hour group on Facebook.

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    #1319 Looking Back Jan 01, 2019

    "I really loved the year 2018, but I'm even more looking forward to the year 2019."

    — Clay S. Jenkinson

    We look back at 2018 and wish everyone a happy New Year. This episode is our chance to revisit all of the great conversations we've had about Jefferson in 2018.

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    #1318 Was Thomas Jefferson a Christian? Dec 25, 2018

    "I believe so strongly that Jefferson was right about separation of church and state." — Clay S. Jenkinson We wish all a Merry Christmas from The Thomas Jefferson Hour, which, as it turns out, is perhaps more than Thomas Jefferson would have done. Jefferson was not a believer in celebrating Christmas in a traditional fashion and felt it should not be a national holiday. This episode features questions from Billie Rose Paxton Einselen, Paul South, Jacob Clark, Jeff Chun, Joe Gotchy, Ian Adams, Cheryl Masters, Jason Eisenhut, and Zena Thorpe. Find this episode, along with recommended reading, on the blog. Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about our Cultural Tours & Retreats with Clay S. Jenkinson at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    Edmond-Charles Genêt Dec 21, 2018

    "We couldn't allow a French national to be here, stirring up anti-administration feeling in this country, or fitting out privateers in our wars." — Clay S. Jenkinson portraying Thomas Jefferson

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    #1317 Madison's Letters Dec 18, 2018

    "Jefferson yielded to Madison's stronger concern. He needed him and he trusted him." — Clay S. Jenkinson

    Clay and David discuss a number of letters between Thomas Jefferson and James Madison that reveal their working relationship, their friendship, and how Madison protected Jefferson politically.

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    Liberal Education Dec 14, 2018

    "You can have all the information in the world, but it doesn't mean anything unless you have a mental matrix with which to absorb it, evaluate it, analyze it, begin to synthesize it. That's why we go to college." — Clay S. Jenkinson portraying Thomas Jefferson

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    #1316 James Madison (Part Two) Dec 11, 2018

    "to the press alone, checkered as it is with abuses, the world is indebted for all the triumphs which have been gained by reason and humanity over error and oppression." — James Madison

    We discuss James Madison again this week, President Jefferson's good friend and ally. Madison was the de facto father of the American Constitution. We look at his preparation, his advocacy of the Virginia Plan, and his work to try to ratify this somewhat imperfect instrument. We talked a great deal with President Jefferson about the Constitutional Convention. Jefferson wasn't there, but Madison kept him apprised of progress. Madison wanted a more centralized national government than Jefferson was comfortable with. Jefferson believed in the 10th amendment: that powers not delegated to the national government belong to the states, which is something that haunts us to this day because of its vagueness. The question is, what is America? Is it a compact of sovereign states? Or is it as a nation state whose constitution begins with the words, "We the People"?

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    #1315 James Madison (Part One) Dec 04, 2018

    "Mr. Madison made me look like a slacker.""Mr. Madison made me look like a slacker." — Clay S. Jenkinson portraying Thomas Jefferson

    President Thomas Jefferson speaks about his good friend and adviser James Madison. Together, Jefferson and Madison made it possible for the Virginians to rule this country for 24 years at the beginning of the 19th century. It's a great example of two very different men combining their talents to make a stronger yin and yang, or put another way, Mutt and Jeff: a tall, elegant Virginian and a much more contained, little, balding fellow who was a brilliant political strategist. James Madison is arguably the most underrated of the Founding Fathers, and is often accurately referred to as the father of the Constitution. His wife, the famous Dolly Madison called him the Great Little Madison.

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    Poplar Forest Nov 30, 2018

    "All the rooms are octagonal or semi-octagonal, except the main dining room, which is a perfect cube." — Clay S. Jenkinson portraying Thomas Jefferson

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    #1314 Our Friend Beau Nov 27, 2018

    "Whatever your politics are, to think that the country is being taken seriously by young men and women who want us to be a Jeffersonian republic is just such a gratifying thing to me." — Clay S. Jenkinson

    We greet a special visitor, our friend Beau Wright. Beau traveled from Lynchburg, Virginia to join us at the studio for a fruitful and interesting conversation about American ideals. Beau is a 3rd generation Lynchburg native and an 8th generation Central Virginian, and is currently the Director of Operations at Protect Democracy, along with serving as a council member at-large for the city of Lynchburg. Beau worked at the White House from 2011 to 2017 in numerous positions, including the Senior Deputy Director of Operations and Director for Finance. Beau was responsible for managing the White House's appropriation, and advising senior White House leadership on budget strategy.

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    #1313 Gratitude and Thanks Nov 20, 2018

    We wish everyone a happy Thanksgiving from the Thomas Jefferson Hour. This week, we speak to four friends including Lisa Suhay, who tells us about her new book America the Grateful; Pat Brodowski, the head gardener at Thomas Jefferson’s Monticello; luthier Kevin Muiderman, who gives us an update on the ukulele he is building for Clay; and Nashville-based songwriter Brad Crisler, who tells us about his plans for Thanksgiving in Alabama.

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    #1312 Elections Matter Nov 13, 2018

    "You have a population of 330 million. This is a way that the whole system is designed to distill their will." — Clay S. Jenkinson

    The results of the 2018 midterm elections are what we try to sort out this week: what it means, what it implies, and how it fits into Jefferson's view of the United States. Jefferson said it is necessary to give, as well as take, in a government like ours, and we wonder if if we do a good enough job at that. Both parties claimed victory after the November 6th election, and maybe that's true, maybe that isn't, but Jefferson's view is that it was kind of what you would expect for a midterm election, no matter who was president. Jefferson also said that conscience is the only clue which will eternally guide us. He loved the idea that people would participate in self-government. The number of people who voted in the 2018 election was through the roof. Unprecedented. Record setting. Jefferson would be so pleased. In 1824, Jefferson wrote to Edward Livingston: "A government held together by the bands of reason only, requires much compromise of opinion; that things even salutary should not be crammed down the throats of dissenting brethren, especially when they may be put into a form to be willingly swallowed, and that a great deal of indulgence is necessary to strengthen habits of harmony and fraternity."

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    Jamal Khashoggi Nov 09, 2018

    "We need to protest firmly without any ambiguity whatsoever." — Clay S. Jenkinson portraying Thomas Jefferson

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    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1311 Jefferson's Views Nov 06, 2018

    "This is a French school of economics and social thinking that I subscribed to, at least in part, that says that wealth comes from the soil"

    — Clay S. Jenkinson portraying Thomas Jefferson

    President Jefferson answers listener questions about Jefferson as a guide for our troubled times, Jefferson’s views on slavery, and his thoughts on J. Hector St. John de Crèvecœur's Letters from an American Farmer, published in 1782.

    Crèvecœur, the French physiocrat, wrote a beautiful book about agrarianism that Jefferson found fascinating. We also answered a question from a teacher at David Crockett Middle School in Amarillo, Texas, and Mr Jefferson had a bit of criticism for the state of Texas. Texas did not follow the Jeffersonian paradigm of development, and Jefferson found that a little hard to take. We've got a great letter from Mr. Jeff Woods, who sort of reinforced the idea that Jeffersonianism can still work, that those checks and balances and Jeffersonian harmony are still possible, even in the crazy world that we live in today.

    In this week's Jefferson watch, a journey to Yellowstone National Park.

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    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    Voting Nov 02, 2018

    "Everyone in that public place would know which candidate he voted for."

    — Clay S. Jenkinson portraying Thomas Jefferson

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    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1310 Valley Forge with Bob Drury and Tom Clavin Oct 30, 2018

    "It's a very patriotic story in the best sense of the word … these were people who were fighting for a cause."

    — Tom Clavin

    Clay and David are joined by Bob Drury and Tom Clavin, the #1 New York Times bestselling authors, to discuss their newest book, Valley Forge.

    In December of 1777, the American Continental Army struggled to survive the coming winter. Valley Forge tells the story of how this army, after a string of demoralizing defeats, not only survived, but regrouped to take advantage of their last chance at redemption in a stunning victory at the Battle of Monmouth Court House.

    Valley Forge was the darkest moment of the revolutionary war. Twelve thousand American troops were stationed at a place 23 miles northwest of Philadelphia. If there could be suffering, they felt it at Valley Forge — nearly starving, mutiny, disease, internecine struggles, you name it. Drury and Clavin also give us insights about Alexander Hamilton, and perhaps why George Washington listened to him so carefully. Of all of the people who have a role in this great story, Thomas Jefferson is not one of them, and for that reason, all of those present never quite felt that Jefferson was fully one of the band of brothers.

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    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    Water Oct 26, 2018

    "I would hope the states would handle that and the government of the United States would only serve as a referee."

    — Clay S. Jenkinson portraying Thomas Jefferson

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    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1309 Water for a Dry Land with Char Miller Oct 23, 2018

    "Our technology that has unleashed such creativity has also unleashed the capacity for us to destroy the very things that we were creating."

    — Char Miller

    Clay and David speak with Char Miller, one of the three authors of the 3rd edition of Ogallala: Water for a Dry Land. Char Miller is Director of Environmental Analysis, and W.M. Keck Professor of Environmental Analysis and History at Pomona College.

    Drop Jefferson into western Kansas or Oklahoma. What does he say about the Ogallala miracle? The Ogallala aquifer is a huge underground water resource which stretches from South Dakota all the way to Texas — an underground lake the size of Lake Huron that most people have never heard of. The aquifer is used to create one of the best agricultural productivity zones on Earth. It supplies water to people, industry and agriculture, and it's expected to run dry by the end of the century. The aquifer is now living on borrowed time because of its decline as a fossil resource. How would Jefferson have reacted to all of this?

    Ogallala: Water for a Dry Land is coauthored by John Opie, Kenna Lang Archer, and Char Miller.


    Ancient Rome's Influence Oct 19, 2018

    "If you study this, you'll know what can go wrong, and maybe you'll be able to prevent it"

    — Clay S. Jenkinson portraying Thomas Jefferson

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    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1308 American Dialogue with Joseph Ellis Oct 16, 2018

    "Indeed, if I read the founders right, their greatest legacy is the recognition that argument itself is the answer."

    — Joseph J. Ellis

    We welcome back Professor Joseph Ellis — the eminent historian, author and friend of the Jefferson Hour — to speak about his new book, American Dialogue: The Founders and Us, which is out now.

    No historian of the early national period of American life has done more than Joseph Ellis to give us a sense of what it was like then: what were the challenges, what were the opportunities, the different types of personalities that went into the mix. It was not a monolith. Ellis is maybe the most spirited prose stylist of all of the historians of that period, and he's interested in four of our national figures from that era, particularly Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, James Madison, and the first president of the United States, George Washington. Ellis uses the founders as a springboard to wrestle with eternal problems of American life.

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    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    Emancipation Oct 12, 2018

    "I realized that this was so deeply rooted in the American social, economic, and political life, that it was going to take an extraordinary movement to rid ourselves of slavery."

    — Clay S. Jenkinson portraying Thomas Jefferson

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    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1307 Live in Pittsburg, KS Oct 09, 2018

    "You think I'm joking, but I wanted a square America."

    — Clay S. Jenkinson portraying Thomas Jefferson

    Thomas Jefferson goes on the road this week to Pittsburg State University in Pittsburg, Kansas. The performance was taped live at the Bicknell Family Center for the Arts on September 15, 2018 in front of an audience of over 500 people. The event was hosted by Dustin Treiber, the program director of Four States Public Radio station KRPS.

    The subject of this episode was the Louisiana Purchase. Jefferson, to begin the conversation, pointed out to the citizens of Kansas that he bought the state for three cents per acre from Napoleon Bonaparte.

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    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1306 Ossian Oct 02, 2018

    We speak with President Thomas Jefferson (as portrayed by humanities scholar Clay S. Jenkinson) about reading - one of his favorite pastimes. We also talk about the teachers who inspired his lifelong habit of reading and Jefferson’s fascination with the Ossian, first published by the Scottish poet James Macpherson in 1760.

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    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1305 Wine and Welshmen Sep 25, 2018

    "We should always listen to science. Science is not political. Science is rational."

    — Clay S. Jenkinson portraying Thomas Jefferson

    President Thomas Jefferson answers listener questions this week, including inquiries about Jefferson and wine, Welsh “Indians” in the Dakotas, repairing friendships, and the idea that “the rain followed the plow” during Jefferson’s time.

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    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1304 To France Sep 18, 2018

    "This period was, in some ways, the most satisfying period of Jefferson's life, and in some ways it was the most radical."

    — Clay S. Jenkinson

    This week, as promised, and in anticipation of Clay’s upcoming cultural tour of Jefferson’s France in October 2019, we devote an entire show to discussion of Jefferson’s time as Minister to France from 1784 to 1789.

    Jefferson spent five of the most extraordinary years of his life in France. He fell in love with French people and French culture, but he also got to witness a second great revolution in a single lifetime: the beginnings of the French Revolution. It was one of the most formative times of Mr. Jefferson's life, and he carried what he called the little flame of liberty across the Atlantic in the summer of 1784. Jefferson was thrilled to see that the principles that we had fought for and established in our new system were now being used to change the world — that all of Europe he thought was going to follow the path of the United States. It didn't quite work out that way, but that was his optimism.

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    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    Other Explorations of the West Sep 14, 2018

    "Down in the southwest, two expeditions occurred during my presidency."

    — Clay S. Jenkinson portraying Thomas Jefferson

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    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1303 Can We Talk? Sep 11, 2018

    "He saw a nation that collapsed right in front of him and he thought, 'well, I wonder why nations collapse,' and I think that really led to some great thinking."

    — Clay S. Jenkinson

    We respond to listener mail this week, including questions related to the principle of one-person one-vote, and we discuss replies to Clay’s request for some thoughtful conservative perspectives from listeners who support the Trump administration.

    We love questions, comments, and small essays from our listeners from all over the country — even all over the world. We take them all seriously and we try to address as many as we can. Sometimes it's easier to address them out of character, and that's this week's program. We talk about a whole range of subjects, all of them generated by our listeners who are fascinated by the connection between Jefferson's era and the current chaos, whatever it is, in our national political arena. We read a letter from our new political friend down south, Tim Clemmons, who wonders whether we are really fair about certain questions of the give and take of our Justice Department. Plus, David gets a chance to brag about his two pound tomato, an Amana Orange.

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    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    Honoring John McCain Sep 07, 2018

    "A statesman is one who always asks what is best for this country."

    — Clay S. Jenkinson portraying Thomas Jefferson

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    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1302 Alarm Poll Sep 04, 2018

    "I'm like everyone else, I'm in the middle. I see some benefits on both edges of the spectrum, but I don't want either of them to prevail."

    — Clay S. Jenkinson

    Clay asked listeners to rate, on a scale of 1 to 10, how alarmed they are about the current state of political affairs in the United States. Rather than just giving a number, many listeners responded with many thoughtful letters. This week we share and read portions from 17 of those letters.

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    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    How to Handle Partisan Division Aug 31, 2018

    "I believe that each faction, each party, has a moral duty to reach over to the other and to try to find common ground, and that each party should take the lead in being civil and respectful and generous."

    — Clay S. Jenkinson portraying Thomas Jefferson

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    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1301 Farewell Address Aug 28, 2018

    "George Washington ... was as close to a perfect human being as we believed existed on Earth."

    — Clay S. Jenkinson portraying Thomas Jefferson

    This week, we speak with President Jefferson about George Washington's farewell address which was first published in Philadelphia's American Daily Advertiser on September 19, 1796, 222 years ago.

    Presidents leave a little note in the desk for their successor, and the public always wants to know what's in those notes. We seldom learn that, but the tradition of giving a farewell address is no longer a big part of American life. The last one was Eisenhower, but Washington set the tone in 1796. President Jefferson tells us what he thought of that tone. We know that Jefferson was aware that Madison wrote the first draft, and Hamilton the final draft, of Washington's farewell address. Mr. Jefferson was not too happy about that. He saw that Madison had recovered his senses and had now broken with the Federalists, and he hated the fact that Hamilton played a role in the great man's life.

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    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    Civil Discourse Aug 24, 2018

    "I think the American people are overwhelmingly good and decent."

    — Clay S. Jenkinson portraying Thomas Jefferson

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    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1300 Better Arguments Aug 21, 2018

    "Can we talk? Can we try to argue about where we are and where we're going and use the founders as a source of wisdom that might allow us to have a safe place to meet and to talk about this with civility, but with fervor?"

    — Joseph J. Ellis

    Clay and David discuss how to conduct better arguments, and also speak with author Joseph Ellis to talk about his new book American Dialogue, which will be released this fall. Professor Joseph Ellis is the author of a great number of books about the founding fathers, including some of our favorites.

    There's talk of violence against journalists; how can we ratchet down our national discourse rather than continue to ratchet it up? Jefferson's mantra was, 'We disagree, but if we do, we disagree as rational friends,' and Dr. Ellis is saying, disagreement is the beginning of wisdom and harmony.

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    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    Enemy of the People Aug 17, 2018

    "Whatever's wrong with the press, we must defend it, because the alternative is tyranny."

    — Clay S. Jenkinson portraying Thomas Jefferson

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    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1299 Jefferson's Mistakes Aug 14, 2018

    "He was part of the extension of slavery that made the Civil War inevitable, and that led to almost 800,000 deaths."

    — Clay S. Jenkinson

    This week President Thomas Jefferson speaks about the political mistakes he made.

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    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    Traveling West Aug 10, 2018

    "I would have been able to produce an account of that tour — and I mean no self-aggrandizement in saying this, but just from the sheer discipline of writing every day at great length — would have been one of the classics of the literature of exploration."

    — Clay S. Jenkinson portraying Thomas Jefferson

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    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1298 As Requested Aug 07, 2018

    "You have to wait 14 years under the naturalization law before you can become a full citizen of the United States. These were palpable violations of the Bill of Rights."

    — Clay S. Jenkinson portraying Thomas Jefferson

    We spend this week, as requested, responding to submitted questions and correcting some factual errors pointed out by our listeners.

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    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1297 While You Were Away Jul 31, 2018

    "Voltaire at the end of Candide says, just go home and cultivate your garden."

    — Clay S. Jenkinson

    This week, we catch up on our mail bag and also speak with a couple of Thomas Jefferson Hour listeners.

    We're kind of all over the place on this episode, but we had great fun: Paul McCartney, a documentary on John McCain, audio listener responses to this program — particularly with respect to music, and a man who drove from Sioux Falls, South Dakota to Bismarck, a distance of six hours, just to say hello. We included part of that greeting in the show, along with conversations from our listeners about whether television is toxic, or whether it's just another neutral medium.

    Then we introduce you to a special new friend of the show, Carol, the music teacher from Valley City. She's 83 years old, in a care facility for the moment because of a hip. Carol is a listener of the Thomas Jefferson Hour, and she said that she tells her students, "When you stop learning, you're done." Kudos to Carol.

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    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    Defending America in the World Arena Jul 29, 2018

    "The duty of the President of the United States is to be the principal articulator of America's values."

    — Clay S. Jenkinson portraying Thomas Jefferson

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    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1296 Mil Jul 24, 2018

    "When you die, your legacy is the effect you've had on people, and boy did my mother have an effect on people."

    — Clay S. Jenkinson

    Clay Jenkinson speaks this week about the death of his mother, Mil, and discusses Jefferson’s thoughts and correspondence about death.

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    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    Cartography Jul 20, 2018

    "I made a special devotion to collecting all of the maps that I could."

    — Clay S. Jenkinson portraying Thomas Jefferson

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    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1295 Too Né Jul 17, 2018

    "Too Né's data wound up in the journals and all of it is on the map, and the map deepens the journals, and the journals deepen the map."

    — Clay S. Jenkinson

    This week on the Thomas Jefferson Hour, we feature an extended conversation about the recently discovered map from the Lewis and Clark Expedition drawn by an Indigenous guide named Too Né. The map was found in the Bibliothèque nationale de France, and it's the subject of an entire issue of the Lewis and Clark Trail Heritage Foundation’s journal, We Proceeded On.

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    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    Supreme Court Appointments Jul 13, 2018

    "It is not a great privilege to name a Supreme Court justice."

    — Thomas Jefferson, as portrayed by Clay S. Jenkinson

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    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1294 Judicial Responsibility Jul 10, 2018

    "You want people who are moderates, who are not passionate zealots in any particular direction."

    — Thomas Jefferson, as portrayed by Clay S. Jenkinson

    Thomas Jefferson shares his thoughts about the workings of the Supreme Court, allows his personal irritations with the court to show, and explains how he feels the court has drifted from its rightful place in America today.

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    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    The Declaration of Independence Jul 06, 2018

    "I played a small role. I was just the penman of this thing."

    — Thomas Jefferson, as portrayed by Clay S. Jenkinson

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    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1293 4th of July Jul 03, 2018

    "Mythology begins to creep in, and as historians we like to question some of that."

    — Clay S. Jenkinson

    This week on our annual 4th of July show, Thomas Jefferson reads the Declaration of Independence in it’s entirety and speaks about one of his favorite holidays.

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    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1292 Common Sense Jun 26, 2018

    This week, we present another of our Jefferson Hour Book Club episodes and discuss Thomas Paine’s Common Sense.

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    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1291 Circumstances Jun 19, 2018

    "The debate in American history is not between Hamilton and Jefferson, the debate is between Adams and Jefferson."

    — Clay S. Jenkinson

    This week, we answer listener questions on the Thomas Jefferson Hour, including a letter from a writer who wonders whether the Founding Fathers were geniuses who seized the moment, or simply average people living in extraordinary times. We also speak with our good friend Beau Wright.

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    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1290 Adjustments Jun 12, 2018

    "He's a bit of a Tea Party guy, he's a bit of a libertarian, he's certainly for small government."

    — Clay S. Jenkinson

    This week's episode is devoted to answering listener questions, and many of the questions are about the current administration. We anticipate and appreciate comments on the issues discussed during this episode. Thanks for listening.

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    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1289 Jefferson's Vision Jun 05, 2018

    "Lightly governed, lightly taxed, highly educated, isolationist, farmer's paradise."

    — Clay S. Jenkinson

    This week, President Thomas Jefferson explains his own vision for America.

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    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1288 Truth Matters May 29, 2018

    "I think that an ideal citizen is a bit grumpy, is always concerned that government is up to no good."

    — Thomas Jefferson, Second Inaugural Address

    We begin our conversation with President Thomas Jefferson asking about the actual location of his tombstone. We also discuss truthfulness, free speech, personal freedoms, upholding international agreements, and what Thomas Jefferson thinks about executive privilege and our current government.

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    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1287 The Hardest Job May 22, 2018

    "I don't think that it's very useful to compare the burden of the presidency of 1803 … with the burden of the presidency in your time."

    — Thomas Jefferson, as portrayed by Clay S. Jenkinson

    We talk with President Jefferson about an article written by John Dickerson of CBS regarding how difficult the office of the president has become. The article is titled "The Hardest Job in the World" and was published in this month's Atlantic magazine.

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    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1286 First Family (Part Two) May 15, 2018

    “I’m just thinking of your career, here.”

    — Joseph Ellis

    We continue our conversation this week with the award-winning author Joseph Ellis, and we conclude our discussion about his book First Family: Abigail and John Adams as part of our first entry of the Thomas Jefferson Hour Book Club series.

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    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1285 First Family (Part One) May 08, 2018

    Joining our conversation this week is the award-winning author Joseph Ellis. We discuss his book First Family: Abigail and John Adams in part one of two shows as our first entry for the Thomas Jefferson Hour Book Club series.

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    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1284 Foreign Policy May 01, 2018

    "peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none"

    — Thomas Jefferson, First Inaugural Address (March 4, 1801)

    This week on the Jefferson Hour, we talk with President Jefferson about his struggles with foreign entanglements, and his disappointment with the American people's reactions to his decisions.

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    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1283 The General Welfare Apr 24, 2018

    "I would never consider [the Constitution] to be a sacred text."

    — Thomas Jefferson, as portrayed by Clay S. Jenkinson

    We present President Thomas Jefferson with a listener question about what the phrase "promote the general welfare," found in the Constitution, actually means.

    We answer letters from Richard Tucker and Rich Nieves.

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    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1282 The Map Apr 17, 2018

    We answer listener questions in response to episode #1277 Gerrymandering, and then turn to a discussion about an important discovery of an 1805 Lewis & Clark related map. It was found after being stored for 200 years in a French archive. The map and its background story appear in this month’s issue of We Proceeded On, published by the Lewis & Clark Trail Heritage Foundation.

    The letters discussed are from Stephen Mishkin, Joe Lovell, Kellen DeAlba, James Kenyon, and Sidney Sjoquist.

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    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1281 Unanswered Questions Apr 10, 2018

    "History is like a picture puzzle and half of the pieces or more are missing. There is something about Jefferson that makes us want to expose contradiction."

    — Clay S. Jenkinson

    Our show this week revolves around a question from listener Gino Cukale about the purported relationship between Sally Hemings and Thomas Jefferson. We discuss the historical record and look to first-hand accounts in an attempt to answer this question.

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    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1280 Tomatoes Apr 03, 2018

    "That is one of the most fun things that I try to do, reacquaint people with the joyous flavor of the tomato that they crave."

    — Craig LeHoullier

    Inspired by a letter from Alison Hagan, we talk with three tomato experts: Craig LeHoullier, author of Epic Tomatoes; Harry J. Klee, Ph.D. from the University of Florida; and Pat Brodowski, Head Gardener at Monticello. They speak about the best-tasting tomatoes, how to grow them, where to get seeds, why commercial varieties have lost their flavor, and how Jefferson is connected to all this.

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    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1279 The Art of the Letter Mar 27, 2018

    "Every letter has a basis and a purpose … I spent an enormous amount of time thinking about the recipient."

    — Thomas Jefferson, as portrayed by Clay S. Jenkinson

    We speak this week with President Jefferson about the art of letter writing. Prompted by a letter from a listener, Jefferson shares his insights on the process. The exact number of letters Jefferson wrote is not known, but it is safe to say he wrote in excess of 20,000.

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    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1278 Adams, Bees and Guns Mar 20, 2018

    "I believe that we have the right to revolution."

    — Thomas Jefferson, as portrayed by Clay S. Jenkinson

    President Jefferson answers listener questions about his relationship with John Adams, replacing the Constitution once every generation, bees at Monticello, and the Second Amendment.

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    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1277 Gerrymandering Mar 13, 2018

    "You could redistrict so that you could maximize competitiveness. That would be my suggestion: maximize competitiveness."

    — Clay S. Jenkinson

    On this week’s Thomas Jefferson Hour, we discuss gerrymandering, its origin, how it works in American politics today, and the potential effects it has on our democracy.

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    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1276 Revolutionary Summer Mar 06, 2018

    "I feel an Awe upon my Mind, which is not easily described."

    — John Adams

    Clay and David discuss the book Revolutionary Summer: The Birth of American Independence, referred to as "a distinctive portrait of the crescendo moment in American history from the Pulitzer-winning American historian, Joseph Ellis." The book chronicles the events of the summer of 1776 as America’s war for independence began, and how America was nearly defeated by the British.

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    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1275 Joseph Ellis Feb 27, 2018

    "There's a perfect alignment between Jefferson's own contradictions and the rest of American history."

    — Joseph J. Ellis

    Clay speaks with Dr. Joseph J. Ellis, author of more than ten books, including American Sphinx, Passionate Sage, and Revolutionary Summer. His forthcoming book is American Dialogue: The Founders and Us.

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    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1274 The Classics Feb 20, 2018

    "You cannot understand the founding of this country without understanding the Founding Fathers’ obsession with classical languages and literature."

    — Clay S. Jenkinson

    Guest host Catherine Jenkinson has an extended conversation with President Jefferson about the classics, and Jefferson’s understanding and support of the classics.

    Find this episode on the blog, along with 15 Greek and Latin Classics recommended by Clay and Catherine.

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    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1273 Three Friends Feb 12, 2018

    "I'm just thrilled to see that people can still have intelligent and thoughtful conversations and walk away still feeling friends."

    — Rick Kennerly

    We speak with three friends of the Jefferson Hour this week: Rick Kennerly, who talks tomatoes and why they don’t taste as good as they used to, Pat Brodowski, Head Gardener at Monticello who speaks about the gardens and upcoming events at Monticello, and Beau Wright, Director of Operations at Protect Democracy.

    In this week's podcast intro, we discuss Keeping All the Pieces, the new documentary film from Badlands Conservation Alliance, produced with David Swenson at Makoche Studios. You can watch the film in its entirety at BadlandsConservationAlliance.org.

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    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1272 Raleigh Feb 06, 2018

    Catherine Jenkinson returns as host this week for an extended conversation with President Jefferson about Sir Walter Raleigh.

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    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1271 Current Events Jan 30, 2018

    We speak with President Jefferson about current events including the government shutdown, philanthropy, and water shortages in Cape Town.

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    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1270 Total Extirpation Jan 22, 2018

    "It really upsets me that Jefferson should be anti-canine, but there you are."

    — Clay S. Jenkinson

    This week, we answer listener questions about Jefferson’s personality traits, Thaddeus Kosciuszko, the State of Jefferson, the Hamilton Soundtrack, fashion during Jefferson’s time, touring Monticello, and Jefferson’s distaste for dogs.

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    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1269 Mrs. Smith Jan 16, 2018

    Margaret Bayard Smith was a friend of Thomas Jefferson. Her writings provided the content for the book The First Forty Years of Washington Society which includes first hand accounts of her interactions with Jefferson. This week we speak with Mister Jefferson about Mrs. Smith. He shares his recollections of their relationship.

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    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1268 Peaceful Transition Jan 09, 2018

    "Most revolutions end with the establishment of a dictatorship."

    — Thomas Jefferson, as portrayed by Clay S. Jenkinson

    We speak with President Jefferson this week about America’s tradition of the peaceful transfer of power from one administration to the next.

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    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1267 Fiction or Non Jan 03, 2018

    "I had a canine appetite for reading."

    — Thomas Jefferson, as portrayed by Clay S. Jenkinson

    This week, President Jefferson shares his views on reading fiction versus non-fiction and recommends works of fiction from his time.

    On this episode, Jefferson recommends five books: Don Quixote by Miguel de Cervantes, Gulliver's Travels by Jonathan Swift, Tristram Shandy by Laurence Sterne, Robinson Crusoe by Daniel Defoe, and Joseph Andrews by Henry Fielding.

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    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1266 Looking Back at 2017 Dec 26, 2017

    This week on the Thomas Jefferson Hour, we look back at the conversations we had with President Jefferson and the many subjects we discussed during 2017.

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    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1265 Christmas 2017 Dec 19, 2017

    Special guest host Catherine Jenkinson speaks with President Jefferson about Christmas during Jefferson’s time.

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    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1264 Representation Dec 08, 2017

    "It's so hard for me to think that one citizen, for whatever reason, would commit such mayhem."

    — Thomas Jefferson, as portrayed by Clay S. Jenkinson

    President Jefferson answers listener questions this week. He is asked about District of Columbia citizens being deprived of the right to vote, the future of the American experiment of self rule, and the Second Amendment.

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    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1263 Jefferson's Travels Dec 05, 2017

    "I saw the future of the American experiment in the West."

    — Thomas Jefferson, as portrayed by Clay S. Jenkinson

    Catherine Jenkinson returns to host a conversation with President Jefferson about his travels in France, Europe and the United States.

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    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1262 The Final Years (Part Three) Nov 28, 2017

    "Two seraphs await me long shrouded in death; I will bear them your love on my last parting breath."

    — Thomas Jefferson, July 1826

    We conclude our Jefferson 101 biographical series by discussing his final days at Monticello, his legacy, and the deaths of both Jefferson and John Adams on July 4th, 1826 — the 50th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence.

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    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1261 Jefferson's Table Nov 21, 2017

    "Literally everyone in Washington, D.C. wanted invitations to my White House dinners."

    — Thomas Jefferson, as portrayed by Clay S. Jenkinson

    Catherine Jenkinson returns as guest host this week to speak with President Jefferson about all things food and to wish all our listeners a happy Thanksgiving.

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    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1260 The Final Years (Part Two) Nov 14, 2017

    "at best it is but the life of a mill-horse, who sees no end to his circle but in death. to such a life that of a cabbage is paradise."

    — Thomas Jefferson, 27 June 1822

    This week, we return with part two of the last three shows of the Jefferson 101 biography series, and continue our discussion of Jefferson’s final years in retirement at Monticello.

    Find this episode, along with recommended reading, on the blog.

    Learn about Clay's upcoming cultural tours and humanities retreats by visiting Odyssey Tours.

    Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc.

    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1259 The Final Years (Part One) Nov 07, 2017

    "The last years of his life were increasingly characterized by debt and disillusionment."

    — Clay

    We return to Jefferson 101 with part one of the final three shows of the Jefferson biography series to discuss Jefferson’s years in retirement at Monticello.

    Find this episode, along with recommended reading, on the blog.

    Learn about Clay's upcoming cultural tours and humanities retreats by visiting Odyssey Tours.

    Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc.

    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1258 Dissent is Essential Oct 31, 2017

    Anything that is non-violent is an acceptable form of protest in a Republic."

    — Thomas Jefferson, as portrayed by Clay S. Jenkinson

    President Jefferson shares his view on what he calls an essential need for citizens to speak out about issues they disagree with and he explains why dissent is necessary for the health of American democracy.

    Find this episode, along with recommended reading, on the blog.

    Learn about Clay's upcoming cultural tours and humanities retreats by visiting Odyssey Tours.

    Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc.

    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1257 Down from the Mountain Oct 24, 2017

    "Jefferson was a gentleman. Mountains weren't climbed in his time."

    — Clay

    This week, we speak with Clay about his recent mountain climbing experience and answer listener questions.

    Find this episode, along with recommended reading, on the blog.

    Learn about Clay's upcoming cultural tours and humanities retreats by visiting Odyssey Tours.

    Support the show by joining the 1776 Club.

    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1256 Last Refuge Oct 17, 2017

    "Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel."

    — Samuel Johnson

    We speak with President Thomas Jefferson about patriotism and Jefferson’s concept of what it is to be truly free.

    Find this episode, along with recommended reading, on the blog.

    Support the show by joining the 1776 Club.

    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1255 Show Mister Jefferson Oct 10, 2017

    Prompted by a listener letter, Clay answers the question, “If Thomas Jefferson appeared before you today, what would you want to show him from our time?”

    Find this episode, along with recommended reading, on the blog.

    Support the show by joining the 1776 Club.

    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1254 Magic of the Word Oct 03, 2017

    "Nobody ever used the English language to greater effect than William Shakespeare."

    — Clay

    Clay discusses his new show, "Clay Jenkinson's Shakespeare the Magic of the Word" — which held its world premiere in Norfolk, VA in September — and shares Jefferson's thoughts and regard for the work of William Shakespeare.

    Find this episode, along with recommended reading, on the blog.

    Support the show by joining the 1776 Club.

    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1253 Second Term Sep 26, 2017

    "Nature intended me for the tranquil pursuits of science by rendering them my supreme delight."

    — Thomas Jefferson

    We return to the Jefferson 101 biographical series and explore Jefferson’s second term as President. We discuss the many difficulties he had, including the Burr conspiracy and the Embargo Act of 1807 to 1809.

    This is Jefferson 121.

    Find this episode, along with recommended reading, on the blog.

    Support the show by joining the 1776 Club.

    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1252 Mildness & Amenity Sep 19, 2017

    "I am more candid in your era than I ever would have been in mine."

    — Thomas Jefferson, as portrayed by Clay S. Jenkinson

    This week, we speak with President Jefferson about his hospitality and good manners. In her book, The First Forty Years of Washington Society Margaret Bayard Smith quotes federalist Supreme Court Justice William Paterson’s opinion of Thomas Jefferson. Of Jefferson he said, “No man can be personally acquainted with Mr. Jefferson and remain his personal enemy."

    Clay Jenkinson’s "Shakespeare and the Magic of the Word" will premiere in Norfolk, VA, Friday, September 22 at 8 PM. You can purchase tickets at the TCC Roper Performing Arts Center one hour before the show, in advance by calling: 757-822-1450 or order online. Don't forget to RSVP on Facebook!

    Find this episode, along with recommended reading, on the blog.

    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1251 Checks & Balances Sep 12, 2017

    "If the three federal branches can't stop themselves from doing appalling things, a fourth entity exists, and that's the states."

    — Thomas Jefferson, as portrayed by Clay S. Jenkinson

    We discuss the Kentucky Resolutions of 1798, states' rights, and the need for checks and balances within the federal government.

    Clay Jenkinson’s "Shakespeare the Magic of the Word" will premiere in Norfolk, VA, Friday, September 22 at 8 PM. You can purchase tickets at the TCC Roper Performing Arts Center one hour before the show, in advance by calling: 757-822-1450 or order online.

    Find this episode, along with recommended reading, on the blog.

    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1250 Totality Sep 06, 2017

    "How can you call yourself a Jeffersonian if you don't go see [the eclipse]?"

    — Clay

    Clay takes us on a road trip to Wyoming to witness the eclipse. Later in the episode, David Nicandri phones in to report on his experience.

    Find this episode, along with recommended reading, on the blog.

    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1249 Amor Patriae Aug 29, 2017

    Responding to a flood of emails from listeners, this week an out-of-character program discussing the recent events at Charlottesville.

    Find this episode, along with recommended reading, on the blog.

    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1248 Private Thoughts Aug 22, 2017

    "I'm trying to explain to you and to your listeners what makes for a happy life."

    — Thomas Jefferson, as portrayed by Clay S. Jenkinson

    President Thomas Jefferson speaks about Monticello, his private and daily habits, his compulsiveness and how his Virginian hospitality cost him a personal fortune.

    Find this episode, along with recommended reading, on the blog.

    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1247 On My Doorstep Aug 14, 2017

    "Of all of the people of this era, there is one and only one huge paradox, and it's Thomas Jefferson."

    — Clay S. Jenkinson

    Clay shares his first impressions of John B. Boles' new book, Jefferson: Architect of American Liberty.

    Find this episode, along with recommended reading, on the blog.

    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1246 Special Places Aug 07, 2017

    "The bureaucracy can actually serve a really valuable purpose."

    — Beau Wright, Director of Operations at United to Protect Democracy

    In an out-of-character program, Clay reports on this year's Lewis & Clark cultural tour. Later, we're joined by Beau Wright who reports on his recent visits to Jefferson’s Poplar Forest home and the Natural Bridge in Rockbridge County, Virginia.

    Find this episode, along with further recommended reading, on the blog.

    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1245 This Thing of Darkness Jul 31, 2017

    “This thing of darkness, I acknowledge mine.” — Prospero, The Tempest

    This week Clay Jenkinson speaks about Thomas Jefferson and slavery.

    Find this episode, along with further recommended reading, on the blog.

    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1244 A Free Nation Jul 24, 2017

    "The Founding Fathers intended a free nation in which you could choose your religion."

    — Thomas Jefferson, as portrayed by Clay S. Jenkinson

    After a short discussion about weather, President Jefferson addresses a question about his ownership of a copy of the Quran. Jefferson goes on to explain his views on the importance of religious freedom. In the out-of-character portion of the show, Clay and David are joined by Brad Crisler.

    Find this episode, along with further recommended reading, on the blog.

    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1243 Mister President Jul 18, 2017

    "Really? You don't think Jefferson has a geopolitical plan here?"

    — Clay S. Jenkinson

    This week, we return to the Jefferson 101 series and discuss Jefferson’s first term as President. In particular, we discuss the Barbary pirates, the Louisiana Purchase and the Lewis & Clark expedition.

    Find this episode, along with further recommended reading, on the blog.

    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1242 Inside the White House Jul 11, 2017

    "You can object to anybody's politics, but I firmly believe that you can't object to President Obama's character."

    — Beau Wright

    President Thomas Jefferson speaks about the White House — during his time and ours — with this week's special guest, Beau Wright. Wright spent over five years serving in the White House, nearly two years of that time as Senior Deputy Director of White House Operations and Director for Finance.

    Beau Wright is currently Director of Operations for United to Protect Democracy.

    Find this episode on the blog.

    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1241 4th of July Jul 03, 2017

    We speak with President Jefferson this week in our annual 4th of July Show. Jefferson shares his thoughts on why the holiday is so important to Americans and recalls how it was celebrated during his time. We also speak to Gaye Wilson, the Shannon Senior Historian at the Robert H. Smith International Center for Jefferson Studies and Pat Brodowski, specialty gardener at Monticello who tell us about the celebrations being held at Monticello.

    Find this episode, along with further recommended reading, on the blog.

    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1240 Becoming President Jun 27, 2017

    "I think that's what Jefferson's attitude was: 'I'd rather not, but I'm probably the best person to do it.'"

    — Clay

    We return to our Jefferson 101 series this week with an episode about Jefferson’s road to the White House. Over the past few months, we've carried Jefferson from his birth in Virginia in 1743 right up to the brink of the time when he became the third president of the United States. We take for granted how our elections work. Back then, they didn't really have a blueprint: no conventions, no caucuses, no primaries, no debates. It was an informal system and we try to sort out how a reluctant person like Jefferson winds up being the president.

    Find this episode, along with further recommended reading, on the blog.

    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1239 Original Argument Jun 20, 2017

    "The question then became: Is a national bank constitutional? Did the Founding Fathers contemplate a national bank?"

    — Thomas Jefferson, as portrayed by Clay S. Jenkinson

    This week, we discuss the argument between Alexander Hamilton and Jefferson over the creation of a national bank of the United States. Hamilton believed a central banking system was essential to America's standing in the world. Jefferson disagreed, arguing that to take a single step beyond the powers of the constitution is to enter a field of boundless abuse. We speak with Jefferson about President Washington's support of Hamilton’s plan, a decision with ramifications that affect Americans to this day.

    Find this episode, along with further recommended reading, on the blog.

    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1238 Presidential Decorum Jun 13, 2017

    "I never like to be rude, but sometimes one has to set the precedent for a society that will shock the world."

    — Thomas Jefferson, as portrayed by Clay S. Jenkinson

    This week, we discuss diplomacy and presidential decorum. When the British Ambassador Anthony Merry came to the White House, Jefferson went out of his way to be rude: to make it clear that the Revolution was won by us, not them.

    In 1792, Jefferson wrote to George Washington: "No government ought to be without censors: and where the press is free, no one ever will. If virtuous, it need not fear the fair operation of attack and defence. Nature has given to man no other means of sifting out the truth either in religion, law, or politics."

    Find this episode, along with further recommended reading, on the blog.

    Learn more about Odyssey Tours and the summer 2017 Lewis & Clark adventure on odytours.net. There, you can also find the Lochsa Lodge retreats: one on Walden and another on Shakespeare.

    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1237 More Listener Letters Jun 06, 2017

    "I was always happiest when I could direct the reading of a promising young man."

    — Thomas Jefferson, as portrayed by Clay S. Jenkinson

    Here at the Jefferson Hour, we love our listener mail. We try to answer as many letters as possible because they help us to open up new avenues of discourse. This week, we devote another episode to answering listener questions. Subjects covered include civil discourse, the virtues of France, Jefferson’s suggested reading of the classics and John Adam’s midnight appointments.

    Find this episode, along with further recommended reading, on the blog.

    Learn more about Odyssey Tours and the summer 2017 Lewis & Clark adventure on odytours.net. There, you can also find the Lochsa Lodge retreats: one on Walden and another on Shakespeare.

    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1236 Listener Letters May 30, 2017

    "Those who labour in the earth are the chosen people of God, if ever he had a chosen people, whose breasts he has made his peculiar deposit for substantial and genuine virtue. It is the focus in which he keeps alive that sacred fire, which otherwise might escape from the face of the earth."

    — Thomas Jefferson

    This week, the entire episode — well, almost the entire episode — is devoted to answering letters from listeners. Questions received include the story of Jefferson’s many talents, whether or not Jefferson had a bust of Alexander Hamilton at Monticello, and how to re-create experiments from Jefferson’s age.

    Find this episode, along with further recommended reading, on the blog.

    Learn more about Odyssey Tours and the summer 2017 Lewis & Clark adventure on odytours.net. There, you can also find the Lochsa Lodge retreats: one on Walden and another on Shakespeare.

    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1235 American Character May 23, 2017

    "We have now a goodly field before us, & I have no wish superior to that of seeing it judiciously cultivated; that every Man, especially those who have labored to prepare it, may reap a fruitful Harvest”

    — George Washington, 1784

    Nearly 50 years later, Alexis de Tocqueville wrote that, “As one digs deeper into the national character of the Americans, one sees that they have sought the value of everything in this world only in the answer to this single question: how much money will it bring in?”

    This week we discuss the American character with President Thomas Jefferson. Jefferson believed that the American character would be the best in the history of the world: because of our agrarianism, our distance from the havoc of the Old World, our public education, and our resourcefulness that we needed to develop because there were no outside experts. While Adams felt that without a strong American character, "the strongest Cords of our Constitution [would be broken] as a Whale goes through a Net." John Adams and Thomas Jefferson were dear friends; they disagreed about many things. One thing they agreed upon was that this experiment would only work if we had unique character.

    Find this episode, along with further recommended reading, on the blog.

    Learn more about Odyssey Tours and the summer 2017 Lewis & Clark adventure on odytours.net. There, you can also find the Lochsa Lodge retreats: one on Walden and another on Shakespeare.

    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1234 Jefferson's Talents May 16, 2017

    "[Thomas Jefferson] could calculate an eclipse, survey an estate, tie an artery, plan an edifice, try a cause, break a horse, dance a minuet, and play a violin." — James Parton, 1874

    This week, we ask President Jefferson to confirm or deny these reported talents.

    Find this episode, along with further recommended reading, on the blog.

    Learn more about Odyssey Tours and the summer 2017 Lewis & Clark adventure on odytours.net. There, you can also find the Lochsa Lodge retreats: one on Walden and another on Shakespeare.

    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1233 Neither Wolf nor Dog May 09, 2017

    "Somewhere in Jefferson, something happened where the European mindset turned and started looking to the west. He started looking toward possibility in a different way." — Kent Nerburn

    We welcome two special guests to the Thomas Jefferson Hour this week for an out-of-character discussion about Jefferson’s policies towards Native Americans. Joining us are the independent filmmaker Steven Lewis Simpson and author Kent Nerburn. We talk about Simpson's recent film adaptation of Nerburn’s book, “Neither Wolf nor Dog”, and about Jefferson’s long shadow when it comes to the United States' conduct regarding American Indians.

    Find this episode, along with further recommended reading, on the blog.

    Learn more about Odyssey Tours and the summer 2017 Lewis & Clark adventure on odytours.net. There, you can also find the Lochsa Lodge retreats: one on Walden and another on Shakespeare.

    Steven Lewis Simpson, at 18, was the youngest fully-qualified stockbroker and trader in Britain. By 22, Simpson had moved to Los Angeles to work in the film industry. He is now a writer, producer, and director, as well as the owner of Roaring Fire Films. You can read his full bio here. Visit Roaring Fire Films to sign up for the Neither Wolf nor Dog movie mailing list.

    Kent Nerburn is the author of more than a dozen books, including Neither Wolf nor Dog: On Forgotten Roads with an Indian Elder. He was born, raised and resides in Minnesota. You can learn more about him here, or read his bibliography which includes links to purchase his books.


    #1232 Listener Questions May 02, 2017

    "Jefferson embodies — in many respects, not in all of them — the world that I want to live in. I want to live in Thomas Jefferson's America." — Clay

    This week, we discuss listener questions about architecture, Sally Hemings, revolutionary war, Jefferson as a scientist, recommended books and how Clay's life has been affected by performing as Thomas Jefferson.

    Find this episode, along with further recommended reading, on the blog.

    Clay will be taking part in a Conversation at Bismarck State College with BSC President Larry Skogen on May 7th at 3 p.m. They'll be discussing the topic: "The Quincentennial of the Protestant Reformation: A Reevaluation of the Reformation (1517-1650)". You can learn more at bismarckstate.edu.

    Learn more about Odyssey Tours and the summer 2017 Lewis & Clark adventure on odytours.net.


    #1231 Jefferson's Garden Apr 25, 2017

    This week, we speak with Pat Brodowski, head gardener at Jefferson’s Monticello. Pat shares her knowledge about how and why Jefferson grew the plants he did, the experimental nature of the household gardens and what is being done to maintain the gardens during our time. It’s a fascinating conversation which provides some real insight on Jefferson the gardener.

    Find this episode, along with photos of Pat Brodowski and the gardens of Monticello, on the blog.

    Clay will be taking part in a Conversation at Bismarck State College with BSC President Larry Skogen on May 7th at 3 p.m. They'll be discussing the topic: "The Quincentennial of the Protestant Reformation: A Reevaluation of the Reformation (1517-1650)". You can learn more at bismarckstate.edu.

    Learn more about Odyssey Tours and the summer 2017 Lewis & Clark adventure on odytours.net.


    #1230 Judgment Apr 18, 2017

    "The constitution ... is a mere thing of wax in the hands of the judiciary, which they may twist, and shape into any form they please." — Thomas Jefferson to Spencer Roane, 1819

    Thomas Jefferson had a unique and slightly odd view of the proper place of the judicial branch in America. He thought of judicial independence as both a strength and a weakness of our system: you want judges that are independent of popular factionalism but you want them to be accountable to the sovereign, to the American people. Jefferson, as portrayed by Clay S. Jenkinson, discusses his concept of judicial balance, his lifelong displeasure with the Supreme Court, and some of the changes that he thinks should be made. He said of life-tenured judges, 'Few die and none resign.'

    Find this episode, along with further recommended reading, on the blog.

    Read Clay's Jefferson Watch essay, "Good News for America".

    Clay will be performing as Thomas Jefferson at the Ferguson Center for the Arts in Newport News, VA on April 19th. Find more info and buy tickets here.

    Learn more about Odyssey Tours and the summer 2017 Lewis & Clark adventure on odytours.net.


    #1229 Vice President Apr 11, 2017

    "The Vice Presidency turned out to be just what Jefferson had predicted: 'philosophic evenings in winter' and summers at his beloved Monticello." — Clay

    This week on the Thomas Jefferson Hour, we return to "Jefferson 101", our biographical series. Reluctantly, Jefferson came out of retirement to serve as vice president for four years under his old friend John Adams. They were of different political persuasions and they, in a sense, became the heads of different political parties. Adams & Jefferson were friends when Jefferson's vice presidency began but there was a long period afterwards when they couldn't really abide each other; in the end, in 1812, their friendship was restored and it became one of the great reconciliations of American history. During his vice presidency, Jefferson contributed a rule book to the Senate: A Manual of Parliamentary Practice for the Use of the Senate of the United States.

    Jefferson meant it: He preferred the happiness of Monticello to the burdens of power — but he loved this country more than he loved his own happiness.

    This is Jefferson 118.

    Find this episode, along with further recommended reading, on the blog.

    Read Clay's Jefferson Watch essay, "A Cul-de-Sac and a Bucket of Piss".

    Clay will be performing as Thomas Jefferson at the Ferguson Center for the Arts in Newport News, VA on April 19th. Find more info and buy tickets here.

    Learn more about Odyssey Tours and the summer 2017 Lewis & Clark adventure on odytours.net.


    #1228 Budgets Apr 04, 2017

    "Jefferson regarded the national debt as a national disgrace."

    This week, President Jefferson (as portrayed by humanities scholar Clay S. Jenkinson) explains his reasoning behind his federal budget and why he felt it was essential to pay down the national debt that he inherited. We also learn about some of the people who helped Jefferson develop the budget, including Secretary of the Treasury Albert Gallatin.

    Jefferson dedicated his administration to reducing the national debt as severely as possible. As always, there are parallels between Jefferson's time and ours. He wanted to cut taxes and the size of the federal government, but he also wanted to cut the size of the Army and Navy; you don't hear that kind of talk much in our time. In this case, Jefferson was an idealogue about fiscal responsibility.

    Find this episode, along with further recommended reading, on the blog.

    Read Clay's Jefferson Watch essay, "The Most Jeffersonian Thing in America".

    Clay will be performing as Thomas Jefferson at the Ferguson Center for the Arts in Newport News, VA on April 19th. Find more info and buy tickets here.

    Learn more about Odyssey Tours and the summer 2017 Lewis & Clark adventure on odytours.net.


    #1227 The Missing Book Mar 28, 2017

    "[Meriwether Lewis] kept promising copy and he never sent a single page. We don't know what, if anything, became of his manuscript. We have nothing. He wouldn't communicate with us."

    — Thomas Jefferson, as portrayed by Clay S. Jenkinson

    President Jefferson talks about the Lewis & Clark expedition and America's role as an “Empire of liberty". Jefferson, that Type A keeper of records, was disappointed that Meriwether Lewis failed to complete his book about the journey. Lewis was Jefferson's neighbor, his protégé, his private secretary in the White House, and he led the most successful expedition in American history — a voyage Clay & David have spent many years discussing, and one that Clay revisits by foot and by canoe each summer with Odyssey Tours.

    Find this episode, along with further recommended reading, on the blog.

    Clay will be performing as Thomas Jefferson at the Ferguson Center for the Arts in Newport News, VA on April 19th. Find more info and buy tickets here.

    Learn more about Odyssey Tours and the summer 2017 Lewis & Clark adventure on odytours.net.


    #1226 American Happiness Mar 21, 2017

    "You can't understand Jefferson without understanding slavery; you can't understand the paradox of his life and the words that he wrote in the Declaration of Independence without understanding this historical connection with Sally Hemings and with the enslaved people in general at Monticello."

    — Niya Bates, Public Historian of Slavery and African American Life at the Thomas Jefferson Foundation

    A variety of subjects are covered on the Thomas Jefferson Hour this week, including a discussion about Benjamin Franklin Bache's newspaper the Philadelphia Aurora, the effect negative press had on politicians during Jefferson’s time and an interview with Niya Bates about restoration work ongoing at Monticello.

    You can find a full transcript of our conversation with Niya Bates here.

    Find this episode, along with further recommended reading, on the blog.

    Learn more about Odyssey Tours and the summer 2017 Lewis & Clark adventure on odytours.net.


    #1225 Liberty's First Crisis Mar 14, 2017

    Our conversation this week is with the scholar, Charles Slack. Slack is the author of Liberty's First Crisis: Adams, Jefferson, and the Misfits Who Saved Free Speech. His book chronicles the tumultuous early years of the United States when dissent was so feared that those who dared to criticize the government were put in prison or deported through the Alien and Sedition Acts.

    Our discussion focuses on three individuals: Matthew Lyon, the congressman from Vermont; Benjamin Franklin Bache, the grandson of the famous Dr. Franklin; and James Thomson Callender, the notorious Scottish journalist who helped break the Sally Hemings story in 1802. Once again, we find out how little some things have changed over the years. Sometimes the less-than-wholly-respectable journalists wind up doing a very important service to democracy.

    Find this episode, along with further recommended reading, on the blog.

    Read Clay's essay, "Ranking American Presidents."

    Learn more about Odyssey Tours and the summer 2017 Lewis & Clark adventure on odytours.net.


    #1224 Friends of the Hour Mar 07, 2017

    Today, listeners call us and ask questions directly to President Jefferson. The inquiries cover a broad collection of topics: Jefferson's relationship with the press, postage costs during his time, President Andrew Jackson, patents, banking, and a request for advice on getting involved with local government.

    Interested in appearing on a future call-in episode? Please submit your questions!

    Find this episode, and further recommended reading, on the blog.

    Learn more about Odyssey Tours and the summer 2017 Lewis & Clark adventure on odytours.net.


    #1223 The Logan Act Feb 28, 2017

    President Thomas Jefferson explains the Logan Act's origin, its possible uses and its connection to Alexander Hamilton.

    George Logan was a Quaker, doctor, farmer and state legislator from Pennsylvania who undertook, as a private citizen and at his own expense, a diplomatic mission to France in 1798 — and what was his reward? The Federalists and the Congress of the United States passed the Logan Act, prohibiting that from ever happening again. Despite Logan's good intentions, and his good results, his name is associated with an act that prohibits private citizens from meddling in the foreign policy of the United States.

    Find this episode, Clay's Jefferson Watch essay, and further recommended reading, on the blog.


    #1222 First Retirement (Part Two) Feb 21, 2017

    We return to our “Jefferson 101” series with a continued discussion about Jefferson’s period of retirement after his term as Secretary of State ended in 1793 and he returned to Monticello. Subjects include Jefferson’s reasons for leaving Washington, the Jay treaty, slavery and a revealing letter Jefferson wrote to his daughter Maria.

    Find this episode, along with further recommended reading, on the blog.


    #1221 The First 100 Days Feb 17, 2017

    Clay S. Jenkinson discusses Thomas Jefferson’s election as President in 1801, his first 100 days in office, and notes the sometimes-uncanny parallels with our time.

    Find this episode, along with further recommended reading, on the blog.

    Learn more about "John Steinbeck’s California", the Spring 2017 Tour & Retreat hosted by Odyssey Tours, a division of Bek, Inc.

    For more information, visit Odyssey Tours online or contact Becky Cawley: (208) 791-8721 or bek@odytours.net


    #1220 First Retirement (Part One) Feb 10, 2017

    In this 16th installment of the Jefferson 101 Series, we discuss the period from 1794 to 1797 and Jefferson’s return to Monticello after his tenure as Secretary of State.

    Find this episode, along with further recommended reading, on the blog.

    Learn more about "John Steinbeck’s California" Spring Book Retreat/Tour 2017, hosted by Odyssey Tours, a div. of Bek, Inc.

    For more information, visit Odyssey Tours online or contact Becky Cawley: (208) 791-8721 or bek@odytours.net


    #1219 Inauguration, Then & Now Feb 03, 2017

    President Thomas Jefferson is asked to provide context for presidential inaugurations. Clay & David discuss our third president's inaugural address — its content & its tone — while comparing it to the address of our forty-fifth president, Donald Trump.

    Find this episode, along with further recommended reading, on the blog.

    From “The People’s Friend”, which was written & composed for the inaugural celebration of March 4th, 1801:

    What joyful prospects rise before Peace, Arts and Science hail our Shore And through the Country spread Long may these blessings be preserved And by a virtuous Land deserved With Jefferson our head

    Read Clay's essay on Donald Trump inaugural address, The Jefferson Watch: The Inauguration.

    Listen to this week's 1776 Club broadcast, Forward Motion. Clay: "It's going to be an interesting year, let's put it that way. My goal is the same always: I want the Jefferson Hour to proliferate because I believe that Jefferson is the answer."

    "John Steinbeck’s California", the spring book retreat & tour with Clay S. Jenkinson, will be held March 4-10, 2017. This retreat is hosted by Odyssey Tours, a div. of Bek, Inc. For more information, visit Odyssey Tours online or contact Becky Cawley: (208) 791-8721 or bek@odytours.net


    #1218 Two Parties Jan 27, 2017

    We speak with President Thomas Jefferson this week about the unexpected emergence of the two-party political system during his time.

    Find this episode, along with further recommended reading, on the blog.

    Learn more about "John Steinbeck’s California" Spring Book Retreat/Tour 2017, hosted by Odyssey Tours, a div. of Bek, Inc.

    For more information, visit Odyssey Tours online or contact Becky Cawley: (208) 791-8721 or bek@odytours.net


    The Jefferson Watch: The Inauguration Jan 26, 2017

    In the first of a new series of essays, Clay draws comparisons between the inaugurations of Presidents Donald Trump and Thomas Jefferson.

    The full essay can also be found on the blog.

    "By not acknowledging the fact of the opposition—and making some gesture of his desire to represent them too, to find a way to win their approval—Trump spoke about 'the People' in a way that is merely demagogic and symbolic but without any fundamental truth or reality. ... Had he been a Jeffersonian, Trump would have acknowledged the polarization of the country."

    Learn more about the 1776 Club.


    Thomas Jefferson's Inauguration Jan 20, 2017

    This bonus episode is an excerpt from #752 Inaugural, originally published in January of 2009. Thomas Jefferson, as portrayed by Clay S. Jenkinson, discusses his inaugural address of March 4th, 1801.

    You can hear the original episode in full on the blog.

    Yale provides the full text of Jefferson's First Inaugural Address.


    #1217 Secretary of State (Part Two) Jan 20, 2017

    This week, we return with the 15th installment of the “Jefferson 101” series. In this second of two shows discussing Jefferson’s time as the first Secretary of State, we learn more about Jefferson’s vision of America and the strong disagreements he had with Secretary of the Treasury Alexander Hamilton.

    Find this episode, along with further recommended reading, on the blog.


    #1216 Secretary of State (Part One) Jan 13, 2017

    This week, we return with the 14th installment of the “Jefferson 101” series. The program is the first of two shows discussing Jefferson’s time as the first Secretary of State. It begins with the story of Jefferson’s return from Europe and the effect his time in France had on his own political sentiments.

    Find this episode, along with further recommended reading, on the blog.


    #1215 When in Rome Jan 06, 2017

    Clay S. Jenkinson, the creator of the Thomas Jefferson Hour, shares stories about his 2016 trip to Rome. Clay talks about the effect Rome had on Jefferson, despite the fact that Jefferson never visited the city.

    Read more on the blog, where you can find images of the art and architecture discussed on this episode, along with additional recommended reading.

    "I think [Jefferson] would have been a little offended, aesthetically, by the bulk and the weight and the density of the Pantheon. I think he would have said, 'That's not exactly the message we're trying to create in the United States. The message we're trying to create is of order, symmetry, an inspirational lift to the human spirit.'"


    #1214 Remembering 2016 Dec 30, 2016

    Clay & David recall and re-listen to some of the more memorable moments on the Thomas Jefferson Hour during the past year.

    Find this episode, along with recommended reading, on the blog. Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about our Cultural Tours & Retreats with Clay S. Jenkinson at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1213 Jefferson Christmas 2016 Dec 23, 2016

    Attempting to move President Jefferson into the Christmas Spirit is always a challenge, and this year is no different. This year, we present excerpts from past Jefferson Hour shows discussing Jefferson’s feelings about the holiday and memories of his own Christmas experiences.

    Find this episode, along with recommended reading, on the blog. Support the show by joining the 1776 Club or by donating to the Thomas Jefferson Hour, Inc. You can learn more about our Cultural Tours & Retreats with Clay S. Jenkinson at jeffersonhour.com/tours. Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1212 Questions From Maryland Dec 16, 2016

    In last week’s show, we heard President Thomas Jefferson speak to an audience in Abingdon, Maryland, but many of the submitted questions were left unanswered. We attend to that this week by providing answers to the overflow of questions for President Jefferson.


    #1211 Constitution Day in Maryland Dec 08, 2016

    This week's show comes from a recording made by WAMD 970 in Abingdon, Maryland for the Harford County Library Foundation. The program was recorded as part of a Constitution Day program and was hosted by Dr. William Allen.


    #1210 Optimistic Revolution Dec 02, 2016

    Guest host Joe Lovell of Amarillo, Texas returns to speak with President Thomas Jefferson about revolution, public education and the need for true leadership.


    #1209 Trial by Jury Nov 25, 2016

    Guest host Joe L. Lovell of Amarillo, Texas speaks with President Thomas Jefferson about the workings of America’s legal system and the importance of each citizen's right to a fair judicial system.


    #1208 We Have Voted Nov 19, 2016

    Prompted by requests from many Jefferson Hour listeners, this week Clay Jenkinson discusses the outcome of the 2016 election.


    #1207 The Elections of 1800 and 2016 Nov 11, 2016

    President Jefferson discusses the election of 1800, which he referred to as the Second American Revolution, and he helps us to see some of the parallels with the election of 2016.

    This episode was recorded on November 7th, 2016.


    #1206 Save the Republic (Part Two) Nov 04, 2016

    In episode #1200 Our Republic, President Jefferson spoke about the differences between a true democracy and a republic. Clay Jenkinson asked listeners to send us their suggestions to improve our republic.


    #1205 Save the Republic (Part One) Oct 28, 2016

    In episode #1200 Our Republic, President Jefferson spoke about the differences between a true democracy and a republic. Clay Jenkinson asked listeners to send us their suggestions to improve our republic. Those many responses are discussed this and next week.


    #1204 Minimum Wage Oct 21, 2016

    Clay S. Jenkinson asked listeners to write in with their thoughts and personal experiences about living on minimum wages. During this show, he shares and discusses the responses received.


    #1203 Benjamin Franklin’s Visit Oct 14, 2016

    President Jefferson, as portrayed by Clay S. Jenkinson, is joined in conversation by Benjamin Franklin, as portrayed by GregRobin Smith.


    #1202 Income Inequality (Live in Fargo) Oct 03, 2016

    Bill Thomas of Prairie Public Radio hosts a live performance of the Thomas Jefferson Hour in Fargo, North Dakota.


    #1201 Religion (Live in Fargo) Sep 30, 2016

    Bill Thomas of Prairie Public Radio hosts a live performance of the Thomas Jefferson Hour in Fargo, North Dakota.


    #1200 Our Republic Sep 23, 2016

    President Jefferson is discusses the differences between a democracy and a republic.


    #1199 America First Sep 17, 2016

    President Jefferson shares his positions about immigration, isolationism, nationalism and when it’s appropriate to put America first.


    #1198 Winners and Losers Sep 09, 2016

    President Jefferson answers questions about civil disobedience, the dark side of Jefferson, political correctness, and how the majority rules over the minority in our democracy.


    #1197 Load the Pipes Sep 02, 2016

    Clay S. Jenkinson discusses the protests occurring at the Standing Rock Reservation in North Dakota over the construction of the Dakota Access Pipeline.


    #1196 Jefferson 113 (Jefferson in Paris) Aug 27, 2016

    This Jefferson 101 episode is the third of three shows devoted to Jefferson's time in Paris from 1784 to 1789.


    #1195 Jefferson 112 (Jefferson in Paris) Aug 19, 2016

    This Jefferson 101 episode is the second of three shows devoted to Jefferson's time in Paris from 1784 to 1789.


    #1194 Jefferson 111 (Jefferson in Paris) Aug 12, 2016

    This Jefferson 101 episode is the first of three shows devoted to Jefferson's time in Paris from 1784 to 1789.


    #1193 What They Said Aug 06, 2016

    President Jefferson is asked to share his thoughts about the speeches made at the Republican and Democratic conventions.


    #1192 Catherine and the Classics Jul 29, 2016

    Clay Jenkinson is joined by his daughter Catherine to discuss their recent trip to Greece, her plans to study the classics and, of course, Thomas Jefferson.


    #1191 A Bleak Moment Jul 23, 2016

    As Clay says, “This is a tough one.” This week in a special out-of-character program, Clay discusses the recent episodes of violence occurring in America, and how Thomas Jefferson may have reacted to it.

    Find this episode on the blog.

    Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


    #1190 Jefferson's Daughters Jul 15, 2016

    Catherine Jenkinson speaks with Jefferson about his daughters and how he regarded them.

    Find this episode on the blog. Thomas Jefferson is interpreted by Clay S. Jenkinson.


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